VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Tahxeol]

Evolution 4 gameplay would still work, you just have to ramp up the difficulty. Maybe something like fighting an A rank completely by yourself. Then you'd be on your fifth at the very end of the game.

I get that what you're, it's just that the same evolution 3 tricks over and over again can get boring too.

Counterpoint : we are in a world where monster parts are everywhere, and access to Xanthe. Meaning access to the serum.

Unless a new revelation comes up, reaching level 4 mean reaching level 5

 

[Snugglepuff]

It's just that who you're playing is a lot younger than you think and their body is previously owned.

Nope.
Exact same age, and the body isn't previously owned. If you'd played it, you'd be well aware of that.

I've seen you have a bug up your ass about people who like to self-insert before. Why do you even care?

Why do you care?

 

[NadaMucho]

Ok so I may want to kick the MC square in the nuts on a regular basis but the writing frequently cracks me up. Maybe Deryl should be the actual MC. This panel is from the trip back to the frat house after the slaughter.

 

[obibobi]

Exact same age, and the body isn't previously owned. If you'd played it, you'd be well aware of that.



Why do you care?

I care because there's people who don't understand what self-insertion really means and they stupidly go "self-insertion bad" while not realizing they engage in it.

Unless you're a sociopath, or actively hate the characters you're reading about, its very hard not to self-insert to some degree, the more you relate, the more you connect.

That's why people who watched Breaking Bad could initially connect with Walter White, they justified his crimes more than if he where some side character because they had been following him, but for many his actions become too much and that creates a disconnect, he becomes less relatable, but still interesting to watch.

 

[Zekethor2]

Current Deryl vs Current Jake. Who do you think is winning

The real question, in my opinion, is whether the MC could actually face Jake right now. Don’t forget, guys, he has the powers of the First Apostle, he's theoretically insanely powerful, to the point where he's not even controlling himself anymore. Jake would wipe the floor with Daryl solo. The only shot Daryl would have is firing that hydrogen-based nuke from a distance… but honestly, I doubt even that would be enough.

 

[obibobi]

I remember an ongoing argument some of us had before this update, where a poster was acting as if radiation would be this unstoppable thing that the MC could do nothing about, despite it being pointed out that the MC regrows flesh from nothing.

Now we have this update where you have the MC beat a guy using radiation power.

 

[BenoTF25]

I care because there's people who don't understand what self-insertion really means and they stupidly go "self-insertion bad" while not realizing they engage in it.

Unless you're a sociopath, or actively hate the characters you're reading about, its very hard not to self-insert to some degree, the more you relate, the more you connect.

That's why people who watched Breaking Bad could initially connect with Walter White, they justified his crimes more than if he where some side character because they had been following him, but for many his actions become too much and that creates a disconnect, he becomes less relatable, but still interesting to watch.

I think the main issue that some people have with Self-Insert, is that they automatically equal it to being a power fantasy, a story in which the bland MC that lacks personality is sucked off to no end for the sake of the reader/watcher/player to feel giddy, which is not always the case, I wouldn't even say is a majority(exception being certain genres of Anime/Manga and Books, but is easy to spot such stories, one should know what to expect) the example you give is an interesting one, and I do agree with most your points.

 

[BenoTF25]

I remember an ongoing argument some of us had before this update, where a poster was acting as if radiation would be this unstoppable thing that the MC could do nothing about, despite it being pointed out that the MC regrows flesh from nothing.

Now we have this update where you have the MC beat a guy using radiation power.

I feel like WeirdWorld some times come to the thread and use the comments as a rain of ideas, because yeah, that fucking discussion was excessively LONG

 

[Snugglepuff]

I feel like WeirdWorld some times come to the thread and use the comments as a rain of ideas, because yeah, that fucking discussion was excessively LONG

Having had to click on "show ignored content", I really should point out that he's giving a disingenuously gross oversimplification of that whole debate.
For example, leaving out the rather important detail of exposure level. He's probably someone who hears those words and forgets that the dosage received is related to both time and amount instead of just time.

The shapeshifter Yuren was controlling taking on a uranium form was a nice surprise, and definitely gave the MC a harder time at that point, especially if you make the stupid choice and tell him about the tail clone prior to that point.
It also showed that the MC was well aware of the immediate danger he was in and had to end the fight as quickly as possible.

So yes, obibobi, radiation is absolutely dangerous to the MC as a level 3...

 

[obibobi]

Having had to click on "show ignored content", I really should point out that he's giving a disingenuously gross oversimplification of that whole debate.
For example, leaving out the rather important detail of exposure level. He's probably someone who hears those words and forgets that the dosage received is related to both time and amount instead of just time.

The shapeshifter Yuren was controlling taking on a uranium form was a nice surprise, and definitely gave the MC a harder time at that point, especially if you make the stupid choice and tell him about the tail clone prior to that point.
It also showed that the MC was well aware of the immediate danger he was in and had to end the fight as quickly as possible.

So yes, obibobi, radiation is absolutely dangerous to the MC as a level 3...

So it was you?

Dude your analysis of the fight amounts to fanfiction, learn to take the L and understand creator intent, this one's over.

 

[Zekethor2]

I remember an ongoing argument some of us had before this update, where a poster was acting as if radiation would be this unstoppable thing that the MC could do nothing about, despite it being pointed out that the MC regrows flesh from nothing.

Now we have this update where you have the MC beat a guy using radiation power.

Father Yuren was so smart, yet he didn’t consider more effective options...
If he really wanted to use radiation more efficiently against the MC, he should’ve gone for:

Californium-252 (Cf-252)

Power: Emits spontaneous neutrons (17 million/second per gram!).
Effect:

-Melts organic matter in seconds (fast neutrons break atomic bonds).
-Ignites dense materials (like tank armor).
Advantage: Invisible and unstoppable (neutrons penetrate almost everything).

Thorium-229 Isomer (Th-229m)

Power: The most radioactive material known (half-life of 1 microsecond to ground state).
Effect:
✔ Releases ultra-high energy gamma ray bursts (8 eV) in pulses.
✔ Perfect for a “bomb mode”: the character’s body glows like a sun and vaporizes everything within 100m.

Advantage: Real-world physics, but so extreme it feels like sci-fi.


Americium-241 (Am-241) + Beryllium


Power: Portable neutron source (Am-241 decays, alpha particles hit beryllium, releasing neutrons).
Effect:
✔ Turns the character’s body into a “walking nuclear reactor.”
✔ Massive neutron poisoning (disables electronics, causes rapid organ failure).

Einsteinium-254 (Es-254)

Power: Decays via spontaneous fission (like uranium, but 1000x faster).
Effect:
✔ Produces extreme heat (56,000 watts/gram!) → character glows in the dark, melts surroundings.
✔ “Chernobyl Mode”: Becomes a walking critical mass, triggering thermal explosions in his path.


Could also have used:
Iridium-192 or Cobalt-60 – the two strongest gamma radiation emitters, with the highest degradation power.
Iridium, for example, has a half-life of only 74 days, compared to uranium-235’s millions of years, and gamma radiation is far more destructive overall.

 

[Thuryspochen]

*I know y'all involved in a bit NTR war so just skip over this as I'm just venting. Don't say I didn't warn you.*

Let me start by saying I am enjoying myself with the title so far. It's fun, the style is cool and different and even the ridiculously huge boobs don't put me off that much as the characters are interesting. That being said this MC is becoming one of my least favorites of all time. His derp factor is so high I couldn't enjoy the title with my normal name and I had to restart with a derp name.

I actually tried to keep track of the amount of times he answers questions with "what? huh? err? why? huh? sigh" plus the endless complaining, useless introspection and the one trait you can normally count on to identify a derp. He's ridiculously easy to startle and his reaction is pure drama queen. "Waaaaaggghhh!" when someone unexpected speaks to him. We can add his perpensity to vocalize his thoughts at the worst time. Sprinkles on top.

I was keeping all this inside until the frat party. This is the moment after which I had to go and restart with a new name. During the party you eventually enter a room with Mutant Kenny and Jess. You and Mutant Kenny start to mix it up and you end up throwing him through the floor and into a room downstairs where he immediately start killing people.

Leaving out Ella's lines which could run parallel to the MC on the (it's all my fault) choice there are SEVENTY FOUR lines of dialog/introspection/panels before he finally jumps in the hole after the monster who has been constantly slaughtering students from the second he was thrown down there by the MC. Seventy four lines of "Should I do this? Should I do that? *girl screens* But what if this? But what if that? What should I do?!? I don't know! derp Derp DERP!!!

It really does help, thank you to whoever taught me this trick, to change the name from my own, which I normally use for a fun FPS experience to some derp name where I can think of the MC as a character seperate from me. I wasn't joking either I really am enjoying myself and am getting hooked into the story. Now if we could just get the MC a brain transplant I'd be gtg.

Go get your own powers then, instead of beating off, draining your essence to a VN.

I'll agree with you on one point though, he does have some of Bill & Ted's vernacular. That's about his only downside, far as I can see. He's slower than some, but faster than most. I can only speculate as to the reasons why that is. I think someone on here noted that he's representative of a lot of people playing the game. Slow from lack of motivation, but comes into his own quickly once he finds things that interest him, and that's true of most people in general, they don't give enough priority to that which draws their interest. As a result, their every faculty does not sharpen to its fullest potential.

I've known people like him. About half the time the reason they're so easily startled or seem a little slow is because their attention is drawn so far inward that it causes a temporary disconnect from their outside world.

 

[obibobi]

Father Yuren was so smart, yet he didn’t consider more effective options...
If he really wanted to use radiation more efficiently against the MC, he should’ve gone for:

Insert dangerous materials.

You're assuming he can turn into whatever material he wants or that it even matters, the MC's supernaturally enhanced head, was melted instantly when he turned into his Uranium form which is not normal. Whether it was this or if Weird had decided to use a man made substance, the story would have played out the same, the strength of his radiation was already supernaturally enhanced.

 

[Zolrazz]

The real question, in my opinion, is whether the MC could actually face Jake right now. Don’t forget, guys, he has the powers of the First Apostle, he's theoretically insanely powerful, to the point where he's not even controlling himself anymore. Jake would wipe the floor with Daryl solo. The only shot Daryl would have is firing that hydrogen-based nuke from a distance… but honestly, I doubt even that would be enough.

Jake defeats Mc, newly evolved
Regardless of whether you like Jake or not, the truth is that he has a very special and unique power. I remember very well in the short prison arc when we confront Jake, and he uses his authority to force Mc to move his arm, where even though he manages to resist, Mc's OWN POWER obeys the Authority, absurd and incredible, fuck, this bastard is by far one of the most dangerous, and even more so now that he has evolved too
It's not just an increase in power, which is already absurd, but new abilities acquired during the trance and afterwards. Take Mc himself as an example, how absurd he became in his third evolution.
Now, could Jake beat Mc today? No, I don't think so, I'm sure of it. We've evolved so much, so much during all this time, that today Mc basically has half the power that a 4th evolution gives. Jake beating Mc alone would be absurd and forced

 

[Zekethor2]

You're assuming he can turn into whatever material he wants or that it even matters, the MC's supernaturally enhanced head, was melted instantly when he turned into his Uranium form which is not normal. Whether it was this or if Weird had decided to use a man made substance, the story would have played out the same, the strength of his radiation was already supernaturally enhanced.

Yes, that's true, but for the MC, Deryl definitely should have given him Graphene:

Properties:
✔ 200x stronger than steel (1 TPa of tensile strength).
✔ Self-repairs through atomic rearrangement.
✔ Blocks even gamma radiation (when layered in multiple sheets).

 

[BenoTF25]

The shapeshifter Yuren was controlling taking on a uranium form was a nice surprise, and definitely gave the MC a harder time at that point, especially if you make the stupid choice and tell him about the tail clone prior to that point.
It also showed that the MC was well aware of the immediate danger he was in and had to end the fight as quickly as possible.

Not gonna lie, my dumbass give him the answer when he asked, in my defense I was half-sleep that time, but yeah. Immediately go back to the save when Clark appeared though, would be a bad look in his eyes if the first thing he does for MC after his return is save his ass because he couldn't keep his mouth shut in the most obvious moment.

 

[Zekethor2]

Jake defeats Mc, newly evolved
Regardless of whether you like Jake or not, the truth is that he has a very special and unique power. I remember very well in the short prison arc when we confront Jake, and he uses his authority to force Mc to move his arm, where even though he manages to resist, Mc's OWN POWER obeys the Authority, absurd and incredible, fuck, this bastard is by far one of the most dangerous, and even more so now that he has evolved too
It's not just an increase in power, which is already absurd, but new abilities acquired during the trance and afterwards. Take Mc himself as an example, how absurd he became in his third evolution.
Now, could Jake beat Mc today? No, I don't think so, I'm sure of it. We've evolved so much, so much during all this time, that today Mc basically has half the power that a 4th evolution gives. Jake beating Mc alone would be absurd and forced

That’s the thing, we don’t really know the full extent of Jake’s power right now. As far as I know, evolutions aren’t mathematical in terms of strength, like: the MC beat Jake at level 2, so the MC at level 3 would beat Jake at level 3. I don’t think it works that way. Power probably fluctuates a lot, Jake could be stronger or weaker now. But from the way he’s been described, he seems way stronger…

And let’s not forget: the MC only resisted the Order thanks to the Eye helping him. So I wouldn’t find it unrealistic if he had extreme difficulty or even lost to Jake. In fact, I think Jake would be a great training partner to help him evolve even more.

 

[Zolrazz]

That’s the thing, we don’t really know the full extent of Jake’s power right now. As far as I know, evolutions aren’t mathematical in terms of strength, like: the MC beat Jake at level 2, so the MC at level 3 would beat Jake at level 3. I don’t think it works that way. Power probably fluctuates a lot, Jake could be stronger or weaker now. But from the way he’s been described, he seems way stronger…

And let’s not forget: the MC only resisted the Order thanks to the Eye helping him. So I wouldn’t find it unrealistic if he had extreme difficulty or even lost to Jake. In fact, I think Jake would be a great training partner to help him evolve even more.

You're right, I'll just add a few points. Power is very important when it comes to non-physical powers, even more so with mental powers like Jake's. Power is our main defense. In the beginning, when Jake tries to use the Authority to force us to tell the truth, he fails, falling to the ground exhausted, because Mc had just evolved to level 2. Ella also explains at some point in the game, if I'm not mistaken, when we visit her at the orphanage, that our power naturally protects us, and that when another energy tries to consume or control us, the one with the greater power wins.
But as you said, we don't know the extent of Jake's powers, and although I don't believe Jake can win in a situation where the difference in power is too great, the weak can defeat the strong if their power is naturally far superior to that of their enemy, and unfortunately Jake and his Authority are the worst of all.

I can go after the parts if I want to

 

[obibobi]

Yes, that's true, but for the MC, Deryl definitely should have given him Graphene:

Properties:
✔ 200x stronger than steel (1 TPa of tensile strength).
✔ Self-repairs through atomic rearrangement.
✔ Blocks even gamma radiation (when layered in multiple sheets).

You're putting too much focus on the materials used, the MC already used Tungsten but why not better materials than steel all time? writing is not about checking your textbook for the best answer, its about emotion. The MC hits his opponents with fists of steel because it sound cooler than fists of graphene, why Iron Man is still called Iron Man when he doesn't wear suits made from Iron.

 

[shujuku]

The real question, in my opinion, is whether the MC could actually face Jake right now. Don’t forget, guys, he has the powers of the First Apostle, he's theoretically insanely powerful, to the point where he's not even controlling himself anymore. Jake would wipe the floor with Daryl solo. The only shot Daryl would have is firing that hydrogen-based nuke from a distance… but honestly, I doubt even that would be enough.

This was my main issue with jake since he wasted the 1st apostle powers but now yuren is giving us lobster dishes