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BenoTF25

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Honestly I truly believe the ''two things'' the Eye said he needs could only be Body and Memory, what else can it be ?
He said ''I need them both and I need them now'', in his second reincarnation, and that would also explain his feelings of ''wrongness'' when he is incarnated at first, because he wasn't whole and begun to panic, describing his existance as ''wrong''.

He did say in his first dead end ''THEY ARE MINE, WHERE ARE THEY ?'', I always assumed he meant his other halves.
And Ella, well, he did call her ''the key'', to me that meant he instinctively knew she was their Chosen, and he would need her to reach them.
Yeah, i think what he needs is Ella and Syla, that would be 'gates' for Body and Memory respectively, but as of now, we don't know for certain what the Eye truly is, maybe I'm overly cautious with the theory or something, but feel like a red herring, a little, I wouldn't be ALL that surprised if the Eye end being something different than the Arbiter of Evolution, and those two things he needs something else.
 
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Yeah, i think what he needs is Ella and Syla, that would be 'gates' for Body and Memory respectively, but as of now, we don't know for certain what the Eye truly is, maybe I'm overly cautious with the theory or something, but feel like a red herring, a little, I wouldn't be ALL that surprised if the Eye end being something different than the Arbiter of Evolution, and those two things he needs something else.
There are whole lotta things that basically confirm that the eye is arbiter of evo, like when we hear algae say the oldest monsters still worship the arbiters and want them back, and we see Goliath bow down to the eye, meaning he's billions of years old and has existed since the time arbiters were running everything, and 'Knowledge' from the dream world saying Henry has the lost power of a forgotten diety, born anew, and that his like has not been seen since the time of his great lord (Basically saying he also has an 'eye' inside him, an arbiter. Just go through that entire scene again), so yeah I would be surprised if the eye is anything other than the arbiter.
 
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I know this is slightly Off-Topic but fuck it, I need to at least try. I dunno if most of you will even bother Signing this, but you should anyways, it's gotten a lot of Signatures today.



CollectiveShout is the Company strongarming your Card Holders like Visa or MasterCard to Ban NSFW Content from Steam, and now today, Itch.io. It started with Rape and Incest on Steam, and now it is ALL NSFW in Itch.io. They have a History of trying to do this to even Non-Porngraphic Games, and honestly it's Disgusting that they can even get YOUR CARD HOLDERS to tell YOU what YOU can or CANNOT spend YOUR Money on.

You can read more about it in the Petition, it has Links to the Itch.io Message, Steam, and so on about the Situation, along with its History. At the very least, do it for Superhuman's Future, and that of this Site's. If StopKillingGames can do it, we can do it too.
 
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I know this is slightly Off-Topic but fuck it, I need to at least try. I dunno if most of you will even bother Signing this, but you should anyways, it's gotten a lot of Signatures today.



CollectiveShout is the Company strongarming your Card Holders like Visa or MasterCard to Ban NSFW Content from Steam, and now today, Itch.io. It started with Rape and Incest on Steam, and now it is ALL NSFW in Itch.io. They have a History of trying to do this to even Non-Porngraphic Games, and honestly it's Disgusting that they can even get YOUR CARD HOLDERS to tell YOU what YOU can or CANNOT spend YOUR Money on.

You can read more about it in the Petition, it has Links to the Itch.io Message, Steam, and so on about the Situation, along with its History. At the very least, do it for Superhuman's Future, and that of this Site's. If StopKillingGames can do it, we can do it too.

This.


Just on Itch.io, all NSFW tags had been void of most games (Including Superhuman) and you can't search them using their name through Itch.io, only found it was technically still up via a general Google search with "Superhuman itch.io", at least for now.

Someone more knowledgeable please correct me but I think if the hosting website takes down/breaks indexing, then Google search eventually drops the result? If that were the case, then Weirdworld would lose an important chunk of publicity.
Not to mention F95 likely is on the hit-list...


I signed the petition and I urge whoever is able to sign it (or if you can't/want, share it with friends, even if just 1 to keep the snowball rolling)

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Edit: Malik took the pixels with him, got them back for you lol
 
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King_In_Yellow

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I know this is slightly Off-Topic but fuck it, I need to at least try. I dunno if most of you will even bother Signing this, but you should anyways, it's gotten a lot of Signatures today.



CollectiveShout is the Company strongarming your Card Holders like Visa or MasterCard to Ban NSFW Content from Steam, and now today, Itch.io. It started with Rape and Incest on Steam, and now it is ALL NSFW in Itch.io. They have a History of trying to do this to even Non-Porngraphic Games, and honestly it's Disgusting that they can even get YOUR CARD HOLDERS to tell YOU what YOU can or CANNOT spend YOUR Money on.

You can read more about it in the Petition, it has Links to the Itch.io Message, Steam, and so on about the Situation, along with its History. At the very least, do it for Superhuman's Future, and that of this Site's. If StopKillingGames can do it, we can do it too.
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The last thing I want is someone telling me how and what I spend my money on.
 

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Yeah, i think what he needs is Ella and Syla, that would be 'gates' for Body and Memory respectively, but as of now, we don't know for certain what the Eye truly is, maybe I'm overly cautious with the theory or something, but feel like a red herring, a little, I wouldn't be ALL that surprised if the Eye end being something different than the Arbiter of Evolution, and those two things he needs something else.
Well, what the Eye keeps insisting is that he and the MC are one and the same, but at the same time, he’s something from the past that only manifested in the MC after he became a superhuman, probably because he gained the body trait (just my opinion), which would mean body and memory, suggesting he is indeed evolution. Also, the Eye says he still can’t reveal who he really is because he doesn’t have access to his old memories yet... which is kind of weird haha, because he seems to know exactly what he needs to do. Maybe he doesn’t have those memories in full, but he’s getting there.


A question for you all: the gods that every superhuman fan knows are the Apostles, but are there other “gods” besides them, Could you name them? For example, here’s a mention of one of them in the dimension accessed at the top of the tower with Henri. Humanity also explains that what resides inside Henri is the power of a forgotten deity — so that’s probably one of those other gods, right?
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If that’s the case, then those two, Bernhardt Gunvald and Malik Drexel also each carry one of those deities, right? Something I rewatched recently was Bernhardt’s fight against Eisheth Zenunim. She starts off mocking him because, according to her, his two subordinates had stronger origins than him. But the moment he turns his gaze toward her… she literally trembles in fear so intensely that she uses the humans as hostages to stop him from even moving, just because of the sheer dread of him standing there!! And she’s supposed to be the fucking chosen of an Apostle, a hyper-powerful monster, yet he treated her like absolute trash. She’s stunned, saying it should be impossible, that someone with that level of power shouldn’t exist there, and she gets defeated right when she’s about to mention the only ones who supposedly could beat him.


So yeah, aside from the evolutions, it seems there are individuals carrying these divine entities inside them and that seems like a completely unprecedented, totally overpowered game-changer.

If that’s the case, and many of the characters we’ve seen already have these gods inside them, then maybe Lochan also carries one of those ancient deities connected to time. That would make sense considering what he said about the MC’s memories being mistaken. He’s not a spawn of time or a chosen one, just a vessel for a deity.
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S.401 Fair Access to Banking Act (preventing companies from denying service to legally compliant individuals) is currently being proposed in the American Senate. If you live in America, get on the phone to your representative or send an email and express how important this piece of legislation is.
If Democrat, I suggest talking about how in the past Republicans used these kinds of bans to target LGBTQ+ individuals.
If Republican, maybe talk about how important freedom of expression is and how companies shouldn't be allowed to choose what you spend your money on.
 

Jakitojakito

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Btw, I've been thinking about this for a while and now I've realized when watching Cole's battle again.
image_2025-07-24_210141274.png He describes that he has not a fully formed brain to receive information from his eyes. But he can still think, he has not any type of incongruence in his speaking (or thinking). I know this is maybe just in-game mechanics and there has to be a way to describe what is happening, but that gave me an idea for an ability awakened by lv4.

In lv1, Mc's brain explodes and it's game over. In lv2, he can withstand being cut in many pieces, his brain possibly being scrambled in the process, and regenerate back. In lv3, his body can quite literally disintegrate until only his spine remains, and he'll be able to heal back unless his spine is destroyed. What if for lv4, he doesn't need to protect his spine anymore to remain alive? That his conscience is shared through all, and I mean ALL his body, making his brain- although obviously useful, no longer needed.

For example, mind-control business would be piece of cake now that he doesn't need his brain to perform actions, if some try to mind-fuck him he could just melt his brain away. Also, I've been thinking about his forms too. When he evolved to his third, he got three main forms. Speed, Tank, and Memory. What if fourth gives him a more compact and concept-related form, such as "Body" form offering the highest of Attack, speed and defense, and a further developed "Memory" form that focus 100% now in his Memory trait. That could be cool.
 

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I believe by the end of the game, we will see an inheritor of each Arbiter trait. So we have Order, Evolution, Infinity, Soul, Paradox, and Chaos.

Evolution will clearly be the MC.
Paradox is Henri.

Those are the basically confirmed ones. As for my suspicions for others:

There is a high probability that Soul is the Ocean Lord, based on context clues from the seahuman remnant and the Nyx Immaterial World scenes.

There is a moderate probability that Deus is Infinity? If anybody were to have it, it would likely be him, but there are issues with this that make me not believe it fully.

I suspect that Devanna and Evander will eventually merge via Tanos, maybe in reaction to losing in a fight against Amber/Liz and wanting to be stronger than them, and the fused person will be the Chaos inheritor.

Jake has been suspected to be an inheritor of Order, and with the realization that Jake might still live in the Immaterial World due to his strength and his ability to access it, there's a chance he might still be around even if you ate him. The likelihood of this is pretty low though.
 
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Well, what the Eye keeps insisting is that he and the MC are one and the same, but at the same time, he’s something from the past that only manifested in the MC after he became a superhuman, probably because he gained the body trait (just my opinion), which would mean body and memory, suggesting he is indeed evolution. Also, the Eye says he still can’t reveal who he really is because he doesn’t have access to his old memories yet... which is kind of weird haha, because he seems to know exactly what he needs to do. Maybe he doesn’t have those memories in full, but he’s getting there.


A question for you all: the gods that every superhuman fan knows are the Apostles, but are there other “gods” besides them, Could you name them? For example, here’s a mention of one of them in the dimension accessed at the top of the tower with Henri. Humanity also explains that what resides inside Henri is the power of a forgotten deity — so that’s probably one of those other gods, right?
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If that’s the case, then those two, Bernhardt Gunvald and Malik Drexel also each carry one of those deities, right? Something I rewatched recently was Bernhardt’s fight against Eisheth Zenunim. She starts off mocking him because, according to her, his two subordinates had stronger origins than him. But the moment he turns his gaze toward her… she literally trembles in fear so intensely that she uses the humans as hostages to stop him from even moving, just because of the sheer dread of him standing there!! And she’s supposed to be the fucking chosen of an Apostle, a hyper-powerful monster, yet he treated her like absolute trash. She’s stunned, saying it should be impossible, that someone with that level of power shouldn’t exist there, and she gets defeated right when she’s about to mention the only ones who supposedly could beat him.


So yeah, aside from the evolutions, it seems there are individuals carrying these divine entities inside them and that seems like a completely unprecedented, totally overpowered game-changer.

If that’s the case, and many of the characters we’ve seen already have these gods inside them, then maybe Lochan also carries one of those ancient deities connected to time. That would make sense considering what he said about the MC’s memories being mistaken. He’s not a spawn of time or a chosen one, just a vessel for a deity.
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My headcannon is that the apostles are the only true gods of the bunch, and the only ones who are omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent. Every other god like entities are only demi gods compared to them. The forgotten diety inside henri is probably the paradox arbiter. I dont want Burnhard and Malik to have a 'diety' inside, them, because it wouldnt make sense, they seem to be way too.....'grounded'? Like they are sure of everything and are completely individualistic, not bound by anything? I hope you get what Im trying to say. Those two are just broken, just our of sheer chance and coincidence, like quantum fluctuations. Henri is the only one who feels like his mind is conflicted about something so maybe he is constantly bugged by the 'diety' living inside him.
 
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Btw, I've been thinking about this for a while and now I've realized when watching Cole's battle again.
View attachment 5075568 He describes that he has not a fully formed brain to receive information from his eyes. But he can still think, he has not any type of incongruence in his speaking (or thinking). I know this is maybe just in-game mechanics and there has to be a way to describe what is happening, but that gave me an idea for an ability awakened by lv4.

In lv1, Mc's brain explodes and it's game over. In lv2, he can withstand being cut in many pieces, his brain possibly being scrambled in the process, and regenerate back. In lv3, his body can quite literally disintegrate until only his spine remains, and he'll be able to heal back unless his spine is destroyed. What if for lv4, he doesn't need to protect his spine anymore to remain alive? That his conscience is shared through all, and I mean ALL his body, making his brain- although obviously useful, no longer needed.

For example, mind-control business would be piece of cake now that he doesn't need his brain to perform actions, if some try to mind-fuck him he could just melt his brain away. Also, I've been thinking about his forms too. When he evolved to his third, he got three main forms. Speed, Tank, and Memory. What if fourth gives him a more compact and concept-related form, such as "Body" form offering the highest of Attack, speed and defense, and a further developed "Memory" form that focus 100% now in his Memory trait. That could be cool.
I think his 4th evo form should just be the arbiter form we all know and love, like some sort of foreshadowing, and he shouldnt need 'forms' to use his different powers anymore after that point, he can just use them regardless of whichever shape or form or armor he is in. He is a shapeshifter after-all. You know, all these 'spells' that these superhumans and monsters like syla, burnhard, malik cast when they are trying to use an attack, that in my mind is just for show and I guess 'cool' factor, basically a trope borrowed from anime. They dont really need to do all that, they can just use their powers as they wish whenever they want however they want.
 
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I believe by the end of the game, we will see an inheritor of each Arbiter trait. So we have Order, Evolution, Infinity, Soul, Paradox, and Chaos.

Evolution will clearly be the MC.
Paradox is Henri.

Those are the basically confirmed ones. As for my suspicions for others:

There is a high probability that Soul is the Ocean Lord, based on context clues from the seahuman remnant and the Nico Immaterial World scenes.

There is a moderate probability that Deus is Infinity? If anybody were to have it, it would likely be him, but there are issues with this that make me not believe it fully.

I suspect that Devanna and Evander will eventually merge via Tanos, maybe in reaction to losing in a fight against Amber/Liz and wanting to be stronger than them, and the fused person will be the Chaos inheritor.

Jake has been suspected to be an inheritor of Order, and with the realization that Jake might still live in the Immaterial World due to his strength and his ability to access it, there's a chance he might still be around even if you ate him. The likelihood of this is pretty low though.
I dont think that needs to happen. The fact that we have evo and paradox arbiter at the same time is mind boggling enough, considering that now the apostles are in charge and they probably wouldnt let something like this happen.

For the same reason, I think Ocean lord is just an overpowered monster, a natural cosmic phenomenon, a colossal living breathing ocean like those on earth with quadrillions of different species living inside it, on a cosmic scale, floating around the universe, gulping stars, blackholes etc.....,not some arbiter because he wouldnt even be allowed to exist if thats the case. But I dont know about the seahuman and immaterial world clues you're talking about so maybe youre onto something.

Idk about Deus, so you're probably right. My headcannon is that hes the spawn of the outer twins or something, like a god from another universe.

I dont think there would be any case where dev and eva would need to fuse like dragon ball, iirc their advantage lies in the fact that they work together and are perfect twins with twin apostle powers.

Jake would also need to eat someone like michael or indra with 100% 2nd lineage for him to become order, and thats not happening.

But yeah what you said makes sense and theres probably a chance the story could take this weird direction of all 6 arbiters cumming back. I dont want this to happen though Weirdlad could do something way more interesting with the story.
 

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I dont think that needs to happen. The fact that we have evo and paradox arbiter at the same time is mind boggling enough, considering that now the apostles are in charge and they probably wouldnt let something like this happen.

For the same reason, I think Ocean lord is just an overpowered monster, a natural cosmic phenomenon, a colossal living breathing ocean like those on earth with quadrillions of different species living inside it, on a cosmic scale, floating around the universe, gulping stars, blackholes etc.....,not some arbiter because he wouldnt even be allowed to exist if thats the case. But I dont know about the seahuman and immaterial world clues you're talking about so maybe youre onto something.

Idk about Deus, so you're probably right. My headcannon is that hes the spawn of the outer twins or something, like a god from another universe.

I dont think there would be any case where dev and eva would need to fuse like dragon ball, iirc their advantage lies in the fact that they work together and are perfect twins with twin apostle powers.

Jake would also need to eat someone like michael or indra with 100% 2nd lineage for him to become order, and thats not happening.

But yeah what you said makes sense and theres probably a chance the story could take this weird direction of all 6 arbiters cumming back. I dont want this to happen though Weirdlad could do something way more interesting with the story.
I believe you are confusing the Ocean Lord with the Great Ocean.

The Great Ocean is the thing that infected Amber; a galaxy-sized ocean.

The Ocean Lord was the king of the Seahumans, husband to the Sky Queen. The seahuman remnant that we met with Henri said that someone like Henri "hasn't been seen since the days of our Lord". When we bust Nyx out of her dream and show her the Immaterial World, we find a ritual site, where souls of the dead are used to fuel the power of the Ocean Lord, and when she absorbs that energy she says "Light and Dark... and...". These are the reasons to suspect that Ocean Lord is Soul.
 
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I believe you are confusing the Ocean Lord with the Great Ocean.

The Great Ocean is the thing that infected Amber; a galaxy-sized ocean.

The Ocean Lord was the king of the Seahumans, husband to the Sky Queen. The seahuman remnant that we met with Henri said that someone like Henri "hasn't been seen since the days of our Lord". When we bust Nyx out of her dream and show her the Immaterial World, we find a ritual site, where souls of the dead are used to fuel the power of the Ocean Lord, and when she absorbs that energy she says "Light and Dark... and...". These are the reasons to suspect that Ocean Lord is Soul.
Aaaah okay thanks for remind my lazy ass about the lore. I gotta check all of em out, I think the ocean lord might be an ancient, long dead spawn of the 4th arbiter (soul)? Not the arbiter himself? Anyway you're most probs right.
 

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If that’s the case, then those two, Bernhardt Gunvald and Malik Drexel also each carry one of those deities, right? Something I rewatched recently was Bernhardt’s fight against Eisheth Zenunim. She starts off mocking him because, according to her, his two subordinates had stronger origins than him. But the moment he turns his gaze toward her… she literally trembles in fear so intensely that she uses the humans as hostages to stop him from even moving, just because of the sheer dread of him standing there!! And she’s supposed to be the fucking chosen of an Apostle, a hyper-powerful monster, yet he treated her like absolute trash. She’s stunned, saying it should be impossible, that someone with that level of power shouldn’t exist there, and she gets defeated right when she’s about to mention the only ones who supposedly could beat him.


So yeah, aside from the evolutions, it seems there are individuals carrying these divine entities inside them and that seems like a completely unprecedented, totally overpowered game-changer.

If that’s the case, and many of the characters we’ve seen already have these gods inside them, then maybe Lochan also carries one of those ancient deities connected to time. That would make sense considering what he said about the MC’s memories being mistaken. He’s not a spawn of time or a chosen one, just a vessel for a deity.
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We already know that the Monsters that infected Berny and Malik were just weak c-class monsters, so they have no connection to any gods as far as we know. Syla does say that lesser spawn can manifest strange abilities as they evolve that can surpass what greater spawn can do, so it seems like Berny and Malik are just perfect examples of that.
 
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I believe you are confusing the Ocean Lord with the Great Ocean.

The Great Ocean is the thing that infected Amber; a galaxy-sized ocean.

The Ocean Lord was the king of the Seahumans, husband to the Sky Queen. The seahuman remnant that we met with Henri said that someone like Henri "hasn't been seen since the days of our Lord". When we bust Nyx out of her dream and show her the Immaterial World, we find a ritual site, where souls of the dead are used to fuel the power of the Ocean Lord, and when she absorbs that energy she says "Light and Dark... and...". These are the reasons to suspect that Ocean Lord is Soul.
A galaxy sized ocean....Sheesh. you know there are a whole lotta things I want added cuz they would make the superhuman world so much more interesting in my perspective. I've listed down a whole buncha stuff and brainstormed about some sort of cosmology for superhuman universe.
 
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