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KingAgamemnon

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“I see them. The enemy.”
I assume this refers to the external threat, something coming from another universe.


“Our kin. Twisted.”
This suggests that three of the Arbiters were corrupted, whether controlled, altered, or grievously damaged.


“We are the last.”
Meaning only three Arbiters remained alive, while the others had already fallen.


“The only three to have prepared. The others were taken as newborns and now....”
Here it implies that the remaining three were the only ones who had readied themselves, while the others were overtaken before they could defend themselves.


“Six. They should be lesser.... but are they?”
This is fascinating. It implies that the six Apostles, formed from the fall of three Arbiters, were believed to be inherently weaker. Yet there is doubt, perhaps they are not so diminished after all.


“Twins... their nature....”
This line confirms the twin nature among them, a detail of great significance.


“Our preparations came to naught. We acted too late.”
This means they foresaw the coming of the external threat, but their efforts proved insufficient, their failure sealed the fate of their realm.


“All must begin again. Chaos. Burns it all down.”
This is the most intriguing passage. If this truly is the Arbiter of Chaos speaking in the context of war against an external force, it seems unlikely that Chaos alone could have destroyed them. Which suggests that corruption had already spread too deeply, even to the Arbiters themselves. Perhaps the universe had become so tainted that Chaos had no choice but to burn it all away.


“Rebirth. The time will come.”
This indicates that after failure, the surviving Arbiters resolved to prepare anew, waiting for the moment when they could face this external enemy once again.


“Our ashes will pave the way. We three... And one other.”
Here lies the true mystery. Did the three surviving Arbiters perish in the total annihilation brought by Chaos? The phrase “our ashes” suggests so. That would align perfectly: six Apostles born, plus six that perished in Chaos (the three corrupted alongside the three who still stood). If the six Apostles had already been created before Chaos consumed everything, then they would have perished a second time, perhaps this time irreversibly.


But then comes the riddle: “We three... and one other.” Who is this “other”? Another ally? An enemy who fell with them? Or some hidden presence that escaped notice? Who is this one?! Perhaps... the Eye. Just a theory, but it would fit disturbingly well.
Our best guess is that the Outer Twins invaded, forcefully split the lower three Arbiters (Order, Evolution, and Infinity) into the six lower Apostles. The lower six are possibly stronger than the upper six due to having the Twin boost, as the upper six were formed after and there is an Ella quote somewhere saying that the upper six are "poorly made".

As for the one other, there are a few guesses. If you believe that the Eye is a remnant of Evolution, that's a possibility. I've floated around the idea that since Memory wants very heavily to create a split spawn, perhaps she has turned traitor and is helping the upper Arbiters and thus she is the "one other". And some people who suspect the Eye isn't an arbiter say that the wording implies the one other isn't an Arbiter, therefore the Eye is something else entirely. This theory doesn't have too much evidence, but the Eye does make reference to looking at all possible branches to find suitable vessels, which doesn't make much sense if Evolution is only Body and Memory.
 

Zekethor2

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Our best guess is that the Outer Twins invaded, forcefully split the lower three Arbiters (Order, Evolution, and Infinity) into the six lower Apostles. The lower six are possibly stronger than the upper six due to having the Twin boost, as the upper six were formed after and there is an Ella quote somewhere saying that the upper six are "poorly made".

As for the one other, there are a few guesses. If you believe that the Eye is a remnant of Evolution, that's a possibility. I've floated around the idea that since Memory wants very heavily to create a split spawn, perhaps she has turned traitor and is helping the upper Arbiters and thus she is the "one other". And some people who suspect the Eye isn't an arbiter say that the wording implies the one other isn't an Arbiter, therefore the Eye is something else entirely. This theory doesn't have too much evidence, but the Eye does make reference to looking at all possible branches to find suitable vessels, which doesn't make much sense if Evolution is only Body and Memory.
I liked it, I made a little animation of this memory, the end of the arbiters.
View attachment Arbiters.mp4
 

None_of_ya_business

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How many scenes are there of the mc turning into a female and then getting raped? I've played it a couple of times but haven't unlocked everything yet...
 

sirpedro7

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Okay, let me see if I understand this. According to this monster, I gather that in order to heal, you need to be more like the 8th. As far as I remember, the other beings who can heal in Superhuman are: Clark Caballero (although he revitalizes more than he heals), Ella Vulpe (a biological and methodical healing), and Briar Heartsease (who does heal, but apparently with a kind of bio-chamber), and please correct me if I'm missing anyone. We don't know anything about Briar Heartsease, so we can't use him as an example to try to figure out where the path to healing lies (if anyone has any information, please share it xD). WW already said that Ella Vulpe can do it because she knows a lot about biology and has years of practice and study. Okay, so if we want that automatic healing, would it be with the 8th and, for something less mystical, with the 3rd? I would simply like to find some logic as to why the MC cannot heal, apart from WW's wishes, that those qualities are more present in the purest of the 3rd who have the knowledge to heal biologically.

Perhaps something from the 12th (Creation) is also needed? (which could explain the miracle that MC and Darryl performed with Laurie Kernz). Honestly, I think this monster has the most paths, and that doesn't help much in understanding how it heals so well (not knowing the process doesn't help either); I suppose the 4th (Memory?) is only wanted by WW for telepathy, using memories for combat, implanting false memories, absorbing information (but never allowing you to learn things you can't understand), and that's it, I think that's all the MC could do; I don't see it as insignificant, but I find it hard to accept the MC's lack of healing ability.
 

Zekethor2

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Our best guess is that the Outer Twins invaded, forcefully split the lower three Arbiters (Order, Evolution, and Infinity) into the six lower Apostles. The lower six are possibly stronger than the upper six due to having the Twin boost, as the upper six were formed after and there is an Ella quote somewhere saying that the upper six are "poorly made".

As for the one other, there are a few guesses. If you believe that the Eye is a remnant of Evolution, that's a possibility. I've floated around the idea that since Memory wants very heavily to create a split spawn, perhaps she has turned traitor and is helping the upper Arbiters and thus she is the "one other". And some people who suspect the Eye isn't an arbiter say that the wording implies the one other isn't an Arbiter, therefore the Eye is something else entirely. This theory doesn't have too much evidence, but the Eye does make reference to looking at all possible branches to find suitable vessels, which doesn't make much sense if Evolution is only Body and Memory.
Hmm, I think your theory is wrong, because if the six upper ones Chaos, Paradox, Soul were “poorly made” or weaker than the three lower brothers, then how the hell would Chaos have destroyed everything? Chaos would have to be among the three survivors. I’d bet Order, being the most powerful, was also among them, and the third one… who knows.

That theory about Memory being a traitor seems far-fetched… but the idea of the Eye being something different from the Arbiters does sound interesting. Given the way the monsters treated the Eye, respecting its authority, I believe it was an ally who perished in Chaos’ annihilation.
 
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I have been thinking Aos said that Alice growing with a normal progression will take more time than he has available so he will have to force it like Ella did for the Mc. Which implies the Mc's growth was accelerated by Ella's actions. Ella died around the time the Mc hit level 3, and the doll has been busy with other things, so does that mean part of the reason the Mc's evolution is taking so long is because he's now progressing at a normal rate unlike his previous accelerated rate? Not to mention the fact that as a level 3 he has far more to learn and as a slip spawn who has only been focusing on half his abilities he had some catching up to do on his memory half.
 

SatanaelChaos

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Okay, let me see if I understand this. According to this monster, I gather that in order to heal, you need to be more like the 8th. As far as I remember, the other beings who can heal in Superhuman are: Clark Caballero (although he revitalizes more than he heals), Ella Vulpe (a biological and methodical healing), and Briar Heartsease (who does heal, but apparently with a kind of bio-chamber), and please correct me if I'm missing anyone. We don't know anything about Briar Heartsease, so we can't use him as an example to try to figure out where the path to healing lies (if anyone has any information, please share it xD). WW already said that Ella Vulpe can do it because she knows a lot about biology and has years of practice and study. Okay, so if we want that automatic healing, would it be with the 8th and, for something less mystical, with the 3rd? I would simply like to find some logic as to why the MC cannot heal, apart from WW's wishes, that those qualities are more present in the purest of the 3rd who have the knowledge to heal biologically.

Perhaps something from the 12th (Creation) is also needed? (which could explain the miracle that MC and Darryl performed with Laurie Kernz). Honestly, I think this monster has the most paths, and that doesn't help much in understanding how it heals so well (not knowing the process doesn't help either); I suppose the 4th (Memory?) is only wanted by WW for telepathy, using memories for combat, implanting false memories, absorbing information (but never allowing you to learn things you can't understand), and that's it, I think that's all the MC could do; I don't see it as insignificant, but I find it hard to accept the MC's lack of healing ability.
Weird said if you wanted a good flesh crafter/healer, itd be best to have a combination of traits, since none of the apostles have pure healing capabilities. He specifically says that Truth would be good for it, and you'd want a combination of Truth, Body, Creation, and probably a little bit of Memory.
 
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