VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[OnlineRando]

like Behemoth from Parahumans

I see you have knowledge of ball.

Well, I guess Superhuman and Worm/Ward do share a similar target audience.

 

[Grimnir098]

Using lightning against Syla made sense. But he also arrived and left by transforming into lightning, when he arrived during the Black Moon his presence caused a lightning storm and he used lightning against Zack during that same scene. Granted those two events are really all we have of him using his power(s) but it has always been lightning.
His red colour could be a result of a mutation as much as his lightning-centric power could, or just a "rule of cool" from WW but then logic becomes irrelevant so we may as well ignore that.

It's entirely possible, likely even, that he simply favours lightning the way Michael favours radiation.
I mean, when has Michael ever used anything other than radiation, aside from when Met was throwing lightning at him?

 

[Deleted member 9635502]

I'm not convinced by that argument. Radiation and lightning are both part of Powers... power-set and evolution does give new abilities, but level 1 spawn seem to have similar abilities that differ mostly in strength and magnitude that get expanded/shifting functions as they evolve. Having a direct spawn of power able to use only lightning seem like a substantial limitation and focus on one specific aspect that I feel makes it questionable.
To be fair the sample size of (possible) Greater Spawn of Power is 2 that I remember but on the other hand it is the same for Body: Ella and MCs use of body is very similar and seem similar to what we have seen and can reasonably expect from Body itself, with the main differences being mostly due to MCs access to Memory and training.

Indra and Met on the other hand seem more similar in their powers than Ella and MC does. Both use exclusively lightning based attacks (so far), can turn into lightning and Met has the ability to use internally stored lightning to greatly enhance his physical abilities. That last part isn't something Indra has explicitly shown/mentioned but he is known for being extremely strong physically.

Until further information is presented I don't think a Greater Spawn would be as limited as Indra seem to be, his origin is too pure for that and he, Met and the Leigong just have too similar abilities.

Hmm right now the only reason Indra uses mostly lightning is because hes based off of the hindu god of thunder and power in real life mythology. And because conjuring lightning is already a pretty powerful ability for sci fi fantasy fiction writers, you can just make this ability as broken and powerful as you want, like destroying an entire planet using a thunderbolt or something. And because lightning casting is always cool. What sets Leigong and met apart from Indra is that they have almost full control over their lightning, almost like its a part of themselves. They can charge random objects and even people with their electricity and control them using telekenisis or something. They probably got this ability from 6ths and 10ths gene inside them. Think of it as magical lightning. Remember Michael and Mets fight where met was able to force choke michael like darth vader because michael did a silly mistake of absorbing mets lightning and trying to use it against him. Indra never demonstrated this ability he has always used lightning to just annihilate everything in his path.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

That does beg the question: Why such a focus on lightning? If Indra, and possibly Thalos, are spawn of Power you would assume they would use more generalized energy or possibly radiation like Michael. Instead they use lightning more like Met.
It almost makes me think that Indra was in a similar situation to Michael, that is being possibly more compatible with a Leigong and failing to kill it or not being able to offer it to Power if he did beat it.

Is Indra a spawn of Power? The Apostles prefer their Chosen to be their direct descendants, but all that's actually needed is a high affinity for their trait. That makes it possible for monsters that have some mixed descent to claim the title. The Rebis is the Chosen of Creation, and going by Deryl's lineage numbers is only 91% Creation affinity. And we know that the will to grow stronger matters more to the Power than innate capability, that's the core of its relationship with Michael. That makes it possible that Indra was just a Leigong spawn to begin with, but was so impressive with how he wielded his lightning that the Power made him its Chosen anyway.

 

[KKStrider]

Is Indra a spawn of Power? The Apostles prefer their Chosen to be their direct descendants, but all that's actually needed is a high affinity for their trait. That makes it possible for monsters that have some mixed descent to claim the title. The Rebis is the Chosen of Creation, and going by Deryl's lineage numbers is only 91% Creation affinity. And we know that the will to grow stronger matters more to the Power than innate capability, that's the core of its relationship with Michael. That makes it possible that Indra was just a Leigong spawn to begin with, but was so impressive with how he wielded his lightning that the Power made him its Chosen anyway.

Deryl has a 91% Creation lineage due all the modifications he made to himself to become Deryl Rebis, not necessarily because the Rebis itself has a 91% Creation lineage. Deryl is actually still a Rebis, albeit an especially humanoid one, so it was left the same on the wiki.

Whilst Doll Ella specified a high affinity to an Apostle rather than perfect affinity, 58% Power lineage seems way too far off to be accepted as a Chosen. Even Michael is just not an exact fit in what's likely compatibility with the core trait.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

Deryl has a 91% Creation lineage due all the modifications he made to himself to become Deryl Rebis, not necessarily because the Rebis itself has a 91% Creation lineage. Deryl is actually still a Rebis, albeit an especially humanoid one, so it was left the same on the wiki.

Whilst Doll Ella specified a high affinity to an Apostle rather than perfect affinity, 58% Power lineage seems way too far off to be accepted as a Chosen. Even Michael is just not an exact fit in what's likely compatibility with the core trait.

Was Deryl's lineage being altered by the modifications he made said on a stream somewhere? Because I don't think it's said in the game. If his lineage was modified, it's a little weird that he doesn't have any Power or Light in there, most of the modifications he made to his Rebis body were fusing monsters with energy attacks to himself. Instead, the foreign elements in him are just Body and Memory, which fit the Rebis' theme. Creation by modifying matter using an understanding of it.

Well, anyway, I still don't think it's too implausible that someone with a high but not extreme affinity for an Apostle could become their Chosen. You could be right, a Leigong itself might have too low, but that doesn't exclude some other lightning monster from having a high enough Power affinity to become an Apostle but not have the whole trait. We see something similar with Aos. He's got the force manipulation parts of Ether, but not its space-warping. Indra having just the electricity parts of Power but not its other energies could be something similar.

 

[ibbz203]

I haven't played this game in a while cuz im trying to stockpile updates but im curious is the mc lvl4 yet or close to that?

 

[okokok]

I haven't played this game in a while cuz im trying to stockpile updates but im curious is the mc lvl4 yet

No

or close to that?

Only the dev would know

 

[Jonathan Y]

I haven't played this game in a while cuz im trying to stockpile updates but im curious is the mc lvl4 yet or close to that?

It's a fair guess to say he should be close.

 

[KKStrider]

Was Deryl's lineage being altered by the modifications he made said on a stream somewhere? Because I don't think it's said in the game. If his lineage was modified, it's a little weird that he doesn't have any Power or Light in there, most of the modifications he made to his Rebis body were fusing monsters with energy attacks to himself. Instead, the foreign elements in him are just Body and Memory, which fit the Rebis' theme. Creation by modifying matter using an understanding of it.

Well, anyway, I still don't think it's too implausible that someone with a high but not extreme affinity for an Apostle could become their Chosen. You could be right, a Leigong itself might have too low, but that doesn't exclude some other lightning monster from having a high enough Power affinity to become an Apostle but not have the whole trait. We see something similar with Aos. He's got the force manipulation parts of Ether, but not its space-warping. Indra having just the electricity parts of Power but not its other energies could be something similar.

The stats used on the wiki come from his Monster Reports. His Chimeras like Primus, Secundus and Tertius have a mix of all Apostle Lineages in there, but when he became an actual full blown Rebis he only had Creation, Memory and Body within him.

 

[Dinoflaggelate]

It's a fair guess to say he should be close.

I'm hoping the pattern from the past two evolutions holds. Level 2 was when his Power was roughly 10, give or take a few points depending on player choice. Level 3 was at Power 100, again with some slight variation. The MC's Power is currently approaching 1000. I think the max, if you didn't do anything that cost Power, is 992. Weird could surprise us by breaking the pattern, but if he doesn't, we should evolve very soon.

 

[Ysmirmyster]

I think the max, if you didn't do anything that cost Power, is 992.

If you max your power gain you can reach 1022, just make sure to follow the guide and instead of sparing the parasite the first time just kill it, but if you go full power you do miss out on the memory buff and your skill is lower so it might not be optimal.

 

[kazuan]

It's entirely possible, likely even, that he simply favours lightning the way Michael favours radiation.
I mean, when has Michael ever used anything other than radiation, aside from when Met was throwing lightning at him?

That still is a point in favour of Michael having a closer origin since he did use lightning, as a level 2 no less, with room for further growth/mutation.

What sets Leigong and met apart from Indra is that they have almost full control over their lightning, almost like its a part of themselves. They can charge random objects and even people with their electricity and control them using telekenisis or something.

I don't remember the Leigong ever showing that ability. Neither its or Michaels wiki entrances mentions it charging and/or controlling anything with its lightning, only normal conductivity. Unless both it and my memory are mistaken then it seem to be a mutation Met gained, probably through evolution.
Beside that Indras comparative lack of control could be explained by Syla having blocked his memory of them during their fight and Zack being proverbially backhanded away with a simple bolt of lightning. He hasn't really had any opportunity to show off his lightning abilities yet.

Well, anyway, I still don't think it's too implausible that someone with a high but not extreme affinity for an Apostle could become their Chosen. You could be right, a Leigong itself might have too low, but that doesn't exclude some other lightning monster from having a high enough Power affinity to become an Apostle but not have the whole trait. We see something similar with Aos. He's got the force manipulation parts of Ether, but not its space-warping. Indra having just the electricity parts of Power but not its other energies could be something similar.

Didn't Ella go through a ritual to make her more aligned with Memory? I can't find anything about it on the wiki but I believe she said something about that once. If that is true then Indra may have performed a similar ritual to better align himself with Power.


Another point in favour of my "Michael and Indra have different Origins" hypothesis, quoting the wiki:

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Power seem to have a strong focus on absorbing energy, something Michael have shown plenty of unlike Indra with his lightning centric powerset.

 

[Grimnir098]

That still is a point in favour of Michael having a closer origin since he did use lightning, as a level 2 no less, with room for further growth/mutation.

No, it doesn't, because there's no reason to think Indra is (or was) incapable of using radiation, or any other form of energy.
I'm saying it may just be preference, that he may just like lightning more than radiation.
We technically wouldn't even know Michael is capable of using lightning if he hadn't fought Met.

Another point in favour of my "Michael and Indra have different Origins" hypothesis, quoting the wiki:

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Power seem to have a strong focus on absorbing energy, something Michael have shown plenty of unlike Indra with his lightning centric powerset.

I wouldn't call it a point in your favour. We've barely seen Indra. The only time we saw him for a significant amount of time, he was fighting someone who doesn't use energy attacks and made him forget a lot of what he can do in a fight.
There's no reason to think Indra is incapable of absorbing energy just because of what we've seen (and haven't seen) so far.

 

[statue345]

We technically wouldn't even know Michael is capable of using lightning if he hadn't fought Met.

Yes we would because he used it against Deryl's Chimera as well.

 

[foxz112x]

when is the next update coming out ?

 

[*Ra]

when is the next update coming out ?

probably some time today or by the 4th
since WW was planning on end of September/ early October
since he'll be visiting family

 

[Grimnir098]

Yes we would because he used it against Deryl's Chimera as well.

Oh, true.
Another lightning user, so my point still stands.

 

[shujuku]

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