VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.9999a Beta] [WeirdWorld]

[Grimnir098]

Someone so offended about a critic of a porn game calling someone loser lol

And no I dont think I want an OP MC who’s gonna be OP from the beginning and kill everyone and never lose (even though you can have very good story with those kind of MC)

Anyway, as I said I wouldn’t even be surprised if the MC dont reach Lv4 and let other people do the job for him in this final arc, I still like the story but it’s a bit weird, never had this « vibe » from an MC in any movie/series/video game

I'm irritated because you (and a few others) are whining about not having an OP MC who kills everyone and never loses. And yes, that is what you want. You couldn't even refute my claim that he's defeated plenty of opponents without help.
You clearly aren't happy with all the times he's won solo and the fact that whenever he teams up with someone it's because the opponent is someone he can't face at his evolution level. How else am I supposed to take your whining?

 

[Loffy-chan]

I'm irritated because you (and a few others) are whining about not having an OP MC who kills everyone and never loses. And yes, that is what you want. You couldn't even refute my claim that he's defeated plenty of opponents without help.
You clearly aren't happy with all the times he's won solo and the fact that whenever he teams up with someone it's because the opponent is someone he can't face at his evolution level. How else am I supposed to take your whining?

Why do you want to tell someone else what they want because you're irritated? There's no reason for you to respond to these kind of messages unless you feel personally offended or judge people only based on your personal logic/viewpoint in this context.

People like me and Patrick keep saying "no we don't mean we want OP MC" and yet people like you pop up and say "Yes you do, now either perceive the game just like I do or scram". So you're irritated because others have a different viewpoint? Or are you going to "counter the argument" with just saying you're right and we're wrong?

If you're not capable of having a conversation about what we're on about, which is the feel or vibe of certain things, don't but into the conversation being a rude asshole.

 

[OnlineRando]

Why do you want to tell someone else what they want because you're irritated? There's no reason for you to respond to these kind of messages unless you feel personally offended or judge people only based on your personal logic/viewpoint in this context.

People like me and Patrick keep saying "no we don't mean we want OP MC" and yet people like you pop up and say "Yes you do, now either perceive the game just like I do or scram". So you're irritated because others have a different viewpoint? Or are you going to "counter the argument" with just saying you're right and we're wrong?

If you're not capable of having a conversation about what we're on about, which is the feel or vibe of certain things, don't but into the conversation being a rude asshole.

The thing is, what you're saying and what your messages as a whole are saying are completely different. You're saying you don't want MC to be OP, but you're also saying you want him to struggle less.

He's already strong as he is, so you asking to make him struggle even less than that, when most of the time he's fighting people who are either far older and more experienced, are above his level, or have a way to counter his powers, is basically asking to make him OP.

It's also not as if every fight he's in is a struggle. There are a lot of fights where he just sweeps the opponents, but because they're a sweep, and therefore less memorable and interesting, you gloss over them when coming to the conclusion that MC is struggling too much.

 

[the-god-destroyer]

Evolutions aren't earned though. They're completely random. What's earned is whether you have enough control over your power and mental fortitude to evolve without monsterfying. The serum makes that easier, but I don't think a serum would be wasted on someone who could only safely evolve by using it.


I don't get this perspective. He doesn't lose to Cole, he just lucks into an evolution (which isn't even perfect because he clearly monsterfies to a degree), and then teams up with another level 3 to defeat Cole who is a level 4 in an evolution trance. That's a massive achievement.

He was captured by SIN because he was fighting two level 3s and a level 4 on his own. What the fuck do you expect?

He doesn't always need help. Several times we've seen him defeat foes without needing help. Kenny, the fused Minyak, Danica, Klaus, Jake, Valravn, Deryl, Father Yuren, etc. We've also seen him easily face weaker foes like the 3 superhumans in Langdon's office or the superhumans in the SIN tournament.

Face it, you do want an OP protagonist. That's fine if you do, but this isn't that type of story, so shut the fuck up about it already. Stop bitching like a loser.

]he wasn't whining and you lied in your post he wasn't facing two level 3s and a level 4 alone he had help and the ones you mentioned him winning were against very weak people or things and he did have help with Father Yuren, jake, valvaran, and Klaus, heck with jake he had help from allice MUTIPLE times its even mentioned that she helped MUTIPLE times if you pay attention. and he got help with father Yuren from the guy who can boost peoples power and shoot laser beams or whatever after father yuren started overwhelming him. and the part about Cole yes he does win if you beat an opponent you win especially in the circumstance he was in. and if you don't consider the win against cole a win then why consider the one against Danica a win? plus he used the same coward tactics against her and he even said himself without him hiding she would kill him and he only won cause he was smart and didn't fight head on same with cole and used every advantage he could. heck with Klaus he had help from Alice AND Michael and without them he would be be dead plus Klaus was beating his ass and had help. heck the only ones he won solo against were Kenny, the fused Minyak and he only struggled against the minyak because he was trying to capture it and watch it not kill it and he need help finding it so he did get some help with that and he got a little help from Alice with Kenny cause she revealed Kenny's weak spot his neck so yes its small help but its still help.

 

[Loffy-chan]

The thing is, what you're saying and what your messages as a whole are saying are completely different. You're saying you don't want MC to be OP, but you're also saying you want him to struggle less.

He's already strong as he is, so you asking to make him struggle even less than that, when most of the time he's fighting people who are either far older and more experienced, are above his level, or have a way to counter his powers, is basically asking to make him OP.

It's also not as if every fight he's in is a struggle. There are a lot of fights where he just sweeps the opponents, but because they're a sweep, and therefore less memorable and interesting, you gloss over them when coming to the conclusion that MC is struggling too much.

I think the misunderstanding is I'm making some sort of statement for an argument, when all we're talking about is things based on personal opinion. You say he is already strong as he is, isn't that your personal opinion? I'm not going to enter into an argument with saying "no he isn't" and pick a fight. I'd instead say "So you see it that way, huh, I see it this way".

The issue here is some people picking unnecessary fights and being rude, calling others losers in spite it being them having misunderstood the situation.

 

[OnlineRando]

I think the misunderstanding is I'm making some sort of statement for an argument, when all we're talking about is things based on personal opinion. You say he is already strong as he is, isn't that your personal opinion? I'm not going to enter into an argument with saying "no he isn't" and pick a fight. I'd instead say "So you see it that way, huh, I see it this way".

The issue here is some people picking unnecessary fights.

I mean... you're right to an extent, a lot of this can come down to being an opinion, but some things just aren't opinions.

MC being strong or weak, for his level, is NOT an opinon. For his level, and the time he's been a superhuman, he is very strong.

What is an opinion is wanting him to be stronger. The problem is that you're denying that you want an OP MC, while making him stronger will make him OP.

If you want an overpowered main character, that's fine. But you can't deny that. Overpowered doesn't mean he's the strongest off rip, it means he's overpowered compared to what he's going up against, or compared to what he should be, and everything you're saying points towards you wanting that.

 

[the-god-destroyer]

Is that really confusing though?

The MC himself has plenty of chances throughout the game to do exactly what Jared does to defenseless folk.

It'd be hypocritical for him to judge Jared on that (of course if you don't go around murdering innocent folk like the farmer earlier on then it makes sense for the MC to judge em).

The MC is just a chill guy fr~

ok how many braincells do you have cause if you actually think its hypocritical for mc to judge Jared then no one should be able to judge criminals or anyone heck laws shouldn't exist at all by your opinion. just because someone can do something doesn't make them the same as the person who did. heck its like the stupid if you kill a psycho pathic murder who has killed hundreds and raped and killed women and has committed war crimes, your the same. its just a bull crap excuse that people who think like kids use when people who have done heinous shit gets killed.

 

[Loffy-chan]

I mean... you're right to an extent, a lot of this can come down to being an opinion, but some things just aren't opinions.

MC being strong or weak, for his level, is NOT an opinon. For his level, and the time he's been a superhuman, he is very strong.

What is an opinion is wanting him to be stronger. The problem is that you're denying that you want an OP MC, while making him stronger will make him OP.

If you want an overpowered main character, that's fine. But you can't deny that. Overpowered doesn't mean he's the strongest off rip, it means he's overpowered compared to what he's going up against, or compared to what he should be, and everything you're saying points towards you wanting that.

But I am not talking about hm being strong or weak for his level, so yes I can very much so deny that I want an OP MC. I read/watch multiple novels/mangas/animes with OP MCs like Ainz from Overlord, Sung jin-woo from Solo Leveling, the Crow from Emperor's domination etc. I am very sure of what an OP MC is, but it is again irrelevant because that isn't what I'm saying.

I am saying that the MC doesn't evoke the feeling of being strong, and I even mentioned in my first posts about this with Kingsley that it's from my personal opinion about how the AUTHOR has WRITTEN him and some of his enemies.

I have not said I want him to be stronger, I want to feel less(PERSONAL OPINION) that the AUTHOR is messing with the MC with his WRITING, in my PERSONAL OPINION.

Get it yet? I don't know how to more obviously tell you I'm not asking for an OP MC in Superhuman.

 

[OnlineRando]

But I am not talking about hm being strong or weak for his level, so yes I can very much so deny that I want an OP MC. I read/watch multiple novels/mangas/animes with OP MCs like Ainz from Overlord, Sung jin-woo from Solo Leveling, the Crow from Emperor's domination etc. I am very sure of what an OP MC is, but it is again irrelevant because that isn't what I'm saying.

I am saying that the MC doesn't evoke the feeling of being strong, and I even mentioned in my first posts about this with Kingsley that it's from my personal opinion about how the AUTHOR has WRITTEN him and some of his enemies.

I have not said I want him to be stronger, I want to feel less(PERSONAL OPINION) that the AUTHOR is messing with the MC with his WRITING, in my PERSONAL OPINION.

Get it yet? I don't know how to more obviously tell you I'm not asking for an OP MC in Superhuman.

Idk what to tell you then. I think beating people way above his paygrade makes MC feel plenty strong. If that doesn't satisfy you... Then that's too bad.

 

[Loffy-chan]

Idk what to tell you then. I think beating people way above his paygrade makes MC feel plenty strong. If that doesn't satisfy you... Then that's too bad.

Yes exactly. This is the absolute best response you could have barring a conversation about it, you don't agree with my opinion. Thank you.

 

[Grimnir098]

Why do you want to tell someone else what they want because you're irritated? There's no reason for you to respond to these kind of messages unless you feel personally offended or judge people only based on your personal logic/viewpoint in this context.

No, what I want is for you to shut up because you're whining about an innate characteristic of this VN that isn't going to change.

People like me and Patrick keep saying "no we don't mean we want OP MC" and yet people like you pop up and say "Yes you do, now either perceive the game just like I do or scram".

You've expressed a desire for him to be stronger, and the facts indicate that if he were any stronger he would be OP.
You not thinking he would be OP if he were any stronger does not change the fact that he's already incredibly strong.

So you're irritated because others have a different viewpoint?

I'm irritated because people are saying dumb shit, like "he's just a random Lv3 SH" and "You're telling me that a spoilt and sheltered new-made artifical superhuman can't be beaten no matter how drained the MC and gang was?"
No, he's obviously extremely powerful for a level 3, to the point that other people who witness his power are shocked, and Jared wasn't the only person confronting the MC and his group. Cole and Charlie are both powerful (and fresh) level 3s who MC would essentially have to face on his own, since no one else there would be capable of fighting them.

Or are you going to "counter the argument" with just saying you're right and we're wrong?

I've already countered the argument in a previous post.

If you're not capable of having a conversation about what we're on about, which is the feel or vibe of certain things, don't but into the conversation being a rude asshole.

I'll butt into whatever conversation I want. This is a public forum.

 

[Loffy-chan]

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Unlike OnlineRando you are still stuck in an argument I'm not part of, and still talking about things that wasn't my point. Have fun with that. And yes, if you want to be an asshole on a public forum you're obviously free to do so.

 

[the-god-destroyer]

Unlike OnlineRando you are still stuck in an argument I'm not part of, and still talking about things that wasn't my point. Have fun with that. And yes, if you want to be an asshole on a public forum you're obviously free to do so.

dude just let him rant on as he cries and moans plus he lies constantly and thinks he knows everything.

 

[the-god-destroyer]

so what's yawls takes on when the next update will come out?

 

[Ayarush]

v0.9999, really? where's version 1.0 and how close is this to it?

 

[the-god-destroyer]

so what route did yawl take in the game?

 

[the-god-destroyer]

v0.9999, really? where's version 1.0 and how close is this to it?

i vaguely remember someone saying there will be two updates before version 1.0

 

[Jakitojakito]

Nah but fr though, Mc was on DEMON timing this update. I feel like mf just had too much feelings inside and just let them out in an explosion in his fight with Yaren. Like he hasn't even seen Yaren's powers before and still dogwalked him, and he was not even using new forms. I noticed Mc used his first transformations, first the Rhino, then the Eagle, and then the gorilla muscles, all coming after the previous one, made me remember the old updates and I loved it.

And it's fitting for Mc to be THIS powerful, or at least seem like it. Mf was just fighting stronger people even before the Monster world arc, with Shen and the twins in the 3v1, Shen being a more powerful lv4 than Cole was and even before the Memory training. Then a lv3 Cole who was still more powerful than Mc, then his lv4. And then the horde of monsters in the MW, which contained various A class.

After all that, fighting a Superhuman with a similar range of power seemed like Mc was fighting a Lv2. I know Yaren HAS to be more powerful than that, but c'mon, Mc absolutely destroyed him. I knew my goat wouldn't let us down, start investing in Mc stocks, trust.

 

[Chikabowhow]

Am I the only one whose game won't start?

 

[the-god-destroyer]

Am I the only one whose game won't start?

i recommend the discord plus they will most likely help faster and most likely will know more.