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People keep talking about level five, but I'm personally more invested on level 4 for the MC, especially since we have a precedent about people of such level(Berni, Henri and i assume Malik) being stronger than some 5 like Kira and Elijah, just by being "built different", not lying that was straight up what Henri himself said, you folks think MC would be like the big three?, stronger than some lower 5's?
I wanna see lvl 4 mc start giving out dick to level 5s considering his lineage.
 

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It's mentioned during a conversation between Bramon and Dexter during the mafia arc. The scene where they're talking over a captive Minyak, to be specific.
Wasn't that... before she got her powers? How tf could she be dangerous to him in any physical sense back then?

Almost certainly, that was just figure of speech to say she's annoyingly persistent.
 

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Wasn't that... before she got her powers? How tf could she be dangerous to him in any physical sense back then?

Almost certainly, that was just figure of speech to say she's annoyingly persistent.
No it wasnt, it was a clear warning from deus which xanthe forwarded to dexter, and i dont think it was related to her powers (deus would very probably know that she gets powers anyway tho, like he does with her sister) but about her taking the chair of their dynasty from dexter which apparently goes along with dexters death.

Dexter wasnt surprised at all and more like its what he is expecting tiffany to do, like he raised her to become like that. Like a sick twisted milkken family tradition/test where you have to be able to put your father down to become the one in charge.

I suspect dexter handled his father in a similar way and is actually looking forward to tiffany making her play and stepping down/dying, these milkkens are crazy fucks

He immediatly stopped xanthe from explaining further too and told him to mind his own buisness. He knows about tiffanys intentions because hes the one who groomed them imo
 

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Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?
 

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Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?
Occam's Razor seems to indicate that Paradox is the most likely explanation here. Also was it in one night? I thought it was over a week. Damn, that's even more nasty.

As for what exactly turned him, I couldn't say. Henri in general is a bit too much of a question mark at the moment. Though its about time for explanations for a lot of different things atm.
 

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Give the game a re-read really put a ton of things onto perspective, now I'm far more curious about various things, one of the most relevants being Henri more now than before, I didn't really remembered being mentioned bout him having jumped from level 1 straight to 5 on one night, no wonder the poor guy look so traumatized, that must have been a wild ride.

Keeping the topic on him though, a ton of people(me included) think about the theory of him being 'Paradox' on the same manner than MC is Evolution as a fact, but, how would that even happened?, I mean, the MC was converted by the third and the fourth personally, the direct "offspring" of Evolution, but I dobut Henri was converted by Fantasy/Truth on the same manner, and I can't really think on a monster born of those two paths naturally being the Sire, since according to Syla, the last six apostles don't mesh well, of course, is also possible that Henri was simply born(as a human) with Paradox already dormant inside him, and being converted by a random monster simply awaken that, while not actually inheriting anything of his direct Monster Parent.
But I don't know, after Ella's mention of a type of Gods that are basically 'Aliens' that come from other realms/universes(a category that we haven't seen represented so far since Arbiters/Apostles are more likely on the category before Universe creation) I'm thinking that Henri might be just that, a spawn of an "Alien Deity" totally outside the lineage of Arbiters/Apostles, instead of Paradox, that would explain why the Great King of the alternate humans despite embrace it's power still lost to the Second, being the spawn/reincarnation of an Outer being make you cracked as fuck, but not exactly a top dog like being an Arbiter born anew, what do you people think?, I'm onto something or Henri being paradox is simply the truth?
I do like your theory, but it assumes those alien gods can actually produce superhuman offspring, and if they aren't related to the twelve apostles, and by proxy the six arbiters and twin gods, then they shouldn't even have monster power in the first place.

Henri might've succeeded Paradox in the same way Jake was, according to Aglaecwif, a failed candidate for Order despite not being converted by Power at all. It's possible that there's some way for a spawn of one of the apostles to gain access to the twin and/or the apostle of their trait given they have sufficient affinity with them, which Henri would've supposedly gotten from the twin he ate in the womb (Am I thinking about the right thing? I might be confusing this with something else).
 
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