- May 29, 2017
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You did play on the easiest difficulty level, right? That one is designed to allow plenty of room for mistakes and experimentation withour requiring any fancy cards. If you're immediately heading for the higher difficulties, know that they are intended for people with upgraded decks. You're not just supposed to dive straight into it. Winning on what I consider the "default" difficulty level (Challenging) is extremely difficult if you're just using the default deck, even for experienced players. Keep this in mind. I believe the tutorial tells you this too.
Ignore that screen. You're not really supposed to interact with it until you get very deep into the game and start running out of new cards to pull from booster packs. When that happens, you start getting booster points that can be used to upgrade to packs where you might still be missing cards. There is absolutely no reason for you to engage with that screen until you've played for a good, long while, and it probably won't survive the transition to the eventual final game. I considered hiding the booster screen until you start getting points, but I haven't entirely settled on whether or not I should do so. It might be a good idea.
And no, there won't be any microtransactions in this game. Everything is earned with in-game currency ONLY. End of discussion.
Also: if you find the card game to be so daunting, may I suggest ticking the "Pure VN Mode" box in the preferences? That way you won't see the card game at all.
The animation for the game's first real sex scene is now finished and ready for rendering. This is many steps above anything I ever made for LLtP, that's for sure. 
- Jun 16, 2018
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Any particular reason why scrollback is disabled? It's such an useful thing in this type of games. Also, could be worth adding kinetic tag, unless choices are planned in later chapters. Otherwise fun game, and I disagree with menu or character/chapter selection screens looking complicated. They're actually very neatly done.
Belle explained it in this post: https://f95zone.to/threads/supermodel-defenders-of-desire-v1-1-0-belle.224416/post-15870845
Almost done with Update 3 now. Should be out in just a couple of days. I'm excited about this one.
Supermodel Update 3 - Blacklist
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) is now free to download for everyone.This update is mostly focused on the addition of two new story chapters, one of which contains our very first penetrative sex scene. The other scene is the first one categorized under Sybil's banner, though she doesn't actually feature in it. It'll all make sense when you play it (actually, it won't).
There are also a couple of quality-of-life improvements and bugfixes to the card game, but nothing of any particular significance. The next update should satisfy those of you who want more card game shenanigans.
Enjoy!
Changelog:
- Added a new Michael chapter ("Burned Bridge").
- Added the first Sybil story chapter ("Glitch"), which means that all character banners can now be enabled.
- Fixed a bug that meant multiple copies of "This is Fine" would only provide a maximum of 2 Usable Heat per turn.
- Corrected the descriptive text for the "Turned On" card. This does not affect the card's behavior.
- Removed the photo album button from banners that shouldn't have it.
- Added a one-time +1 Heat bonus to the "Visor" card.
based on this having both female an male protagonist and you saying there wont be choices i assume it wont be an option for the female mc to only have any sexual interactions with the male mc?
"This game has an autosave feature so just finish the match and or chapter and you're good to go"
"Immediately saves it"
I've become save paranoid LOL
edit: also will we be able to change names?
Edit two: there is actually no secondary save system oh boy
"Immediately saves it"
I've become save paranoid LOL
edit: also will we be able to change names?
Edit two: there is actually no secondary save system oh boy
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Not sure where you're getting your game list from but I can count on one hand (The list is one. One game that isn't currently abandoned doesn't already have rollback enabled) the Renpy games on this site that don't have rollback already enabled.
So saying Western VN don't have rollback as a basic function seems odd to me?
Irrelevant to this there's no current dialogue that makes this even relevant.
But still it's odd
That probably says more about the kind of western VNs you have been exposed to than about the VNs themselves. I have yet to play a non-porn (or even porn, in the case of some Japanese VNs that include it as a matter of fact) VN that allows rollback. History, sure. Rollback, no.
One of the most famous VNs out there, Doki Doki Literature Club, is even built using Ren'py. Does it support rollback? No. Does it get criticized for this? Not that I've ever seen with my own eyes, at least. But that's probably because it's not a game designed for F95zone.
I don't design my games for F95zone either. There's just an overlap of interests that benefits both the site and myself.
- Jan 22, 2020
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Interesting world, nice ladies, good renders, generally very well polished with the little videos and animations and whatnot. Very light on the smut so far but it's early days.
Biggest gripe so far is that it's kinetic, I know it has the game but so far there's not been a single choice. I'm not sure what the rules for the tag are and if the game and picking missions mean it doesn't get that, but if a game doesn't have it then I kinda expect to have some control over the narrative.
The card game bit seems fine. I'm not much of a mini-game kinda guy so I appreciate there being a lot of options for how difficult you make it or just skipping it entirely. I was fine with it in the handful of matches there were, not sure if I'd still be enjoying it after 10+.
Sybil and Miranda were my favourite gals in this, Seraphim and Phoebe my least, and the others in the middle.
Don't get me wrong, I like Anna fine, but unless she has some kinda pheromone power folks seem to be weirdly into her... for how they're acting and talking about her I feel she'd need to be way hotter. But then I dunno what Michael's deal is and being able to make someone cum with a camera, especially as Sybil said he has no powers, maybe it's something to do with Anna's whole deal. At first I thought maybe he was a long-lost relative and they both had some weird sex power thing but Sybil's tests kinda ruled that out.
The cards that says "cannot be attacked" should say "cannot be attacked directly", unless being able to damage it with the "All CC take x damage" cards are a bug.
Scale on the left is (at least at lower levels) easily overcapped then it'll say 75 or whatever above it and I presume that's the total heat and not an indication of the useable heat. It also seems somewhat unnecessary compared to just displaying those 2 numbers.
Sometimes when throwing a card in the middle to use it thinks you're trying to upgrade one and won't play, not a big deal but not completely smooth. Likewise it got a bit annoying flashing up on the screen +1 heat, +3 useable heat, etc. in a sequence when doing stuff so its "working"... I just want to play my next card / do my next thing without having to wait around. Those bits seem pointless and get in the way, I know what was going to happen I read the card and can see the changes.
The Flame Beckons is super annoying.
Game doesn't have the AI tag, and I'm not someone super hung up on stuff like that... but some of the cards definitely have that vibe and the style of them doesn't fit the other ones that actually feature the game's characters. I presume this'll be revisited, but if that's not the intention it should probably be reconsidered.
Don't block rollback during the conversation missions, it's annoying to have to go into the history if you've accidentally double skipped a line.
Biggest gripe so far is that it's kinetic, I know it has the game but so far there's not been a single choice. I'm not sure what the rules for the tag are and if the game and picking missions mean it doesn't get that, but if a game doesn't have it then I kinda expect to have some control over the narrative.
The card game bit seems fine. I'm not much of a mini-game kinda guy so I appreciate there being a lot of options for how difficult you make it or just skipping it entirely. I was fine with it in the handful of matches there were, not sure if I'd still be enjoying it after 10+.
Sybil and Miranda were my favourite gals in this, Seraphim and Phoebe my least, and the others in the middle.
Don't get me wrong, I like Anna fine, but unless she has some kinda pheromone power folks seem to be weirdly into her... for how they're acting and talking about her I feel she'd need to be way hotter. But then I dunno what Michael's deal is and being able to make someone cum with a camera, especially as Sybil said he has no powers, maybe it's something to do with Anna's whole deal. At first I thought maybe he was a long-lost relative and they both had some weird sex power thing but Sybil's tests kinda ruled that out.
The cards that says "cannot be attacked" should say "cannot be attacked directly", unless being able to damage it with the "All CC take x damage" cards are a bug.
Scale on the left is (at least at lower levels) easily overcapped then it'll say 75 or whatever above it and I presume that's the total heat and not an indication of the useable heat. It also seems somewhat unnecessary compared to just displaying those 2 numbers.
Sometimes when throwing a card in the middle to use it thinks you're trying to upgrade one and won't play, not a big deal but not completely smooth. Likewise it got a bit annoying flashing up on the screen +1 heat, +3 useable heat, etc. in a sequence when doing stuff so its "working"... I just want to play my next card / do my next thing without having to wait around. Those bits seem pointless and get in the way, I know what was going to happen I read the card and can see the changes.
The Flame Beckons is super annoying.
Game doesn't have the AI tag, and I'm not someone super hung up on stuff like that... but some of the cards definitely have that vibe and the style of them doesn't fit the other ones that actually feature the game's characters. I presume this'll be revisited, but if that's not the intention it should probably be reconsidered.
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Don't block rollback during the conversation missions, it's annoying to have to go into the history if you've accidentally double skipped a line.
Really liked Belle's previous game LLTP, but not really feeling this one to be honest. Everyone is talking about card side gameplay, as if it's the main point for the lack of hype for this title, but I think the main problem is a bit different.
I loved character design in LLTP and I absolutely hate it in this game. You can make the best card game ever, but if you characters are not hot in adult game, you have a huge problem. Maybe that's just my bias (don't really like short haired look and prefer women with long or medium hair), but just looking at the first page character banner killed any hype for this game for me.
Of course everyone has different taste, but I just don't believe majority of player base would be into this specific character look. Maybe Belle tried to make them unique and different from his previous game, I don't really know the reason.
Anyways, no hate, just some of my thoughts.
I loved character design in LLTP and I absolutely hate it in this game. You can make the best card game ever, but if you characters are not hot in adult game, you have a huge problem. Maybe that's just my bias (don't really like short haired look and prefer women with long or medium hair), but just looking at the first page character banner killed any hype for this game for me.
Of course everyone has different taste, but I just don't believe majority of player base would be into this specific character look. Maybe Belle tried to make them unique and different from his previous game, I don't really know the reason.
Anyways, no hate, just some of my thoughts.
The hair specifically is a technical limitation. I thought the same as you when I designed LLtP's women, and it caused me unbelievable amounts of grief and suffering trying to animate and pose them without it looking like complete ass. When designing the women for Supermodel, I deliberately set out to pick hairstyles that would allow me to freely pose them in all kinds of sexual situations without looking horrible. Most of the time (but not always) that means using shorter hairstyles. I wish it wasn't like this since I enjoy long hair as much as anyone, but if it's to be a choice between exciting sex scenes and long hair, I'd rather choose the former. I mean, there's a reason why characters like Primrose never, say, give a blowjob while the MC lies on his back. I despised that and never want to go back to those restrictions.
Sadly, hair is not a problem that has been fully solved in Daz Studio. Until it is, there has to be compromises.
The language is very precise in this game. The word "attack" is only ever used to refer to dragging a card directly on top of a challenge card in the Challenge Phase to damage it. This is the only type of attack you can do. Dealing damage to a challenge card doesn't mean you're making an attack unless specifically spelled out.
This will likely get tweaked a little over time. The point is to make it instantly recognizeable at a glance how you are doing and roughly how many resources you have at your disposal.
This is something I put a lot of effort into when designing the game engine. Dragging cards must feel natural and intuitive for the game to be fun. If you find it to be unintuitive, I would appreciate specific feedback about what is causing you trouble so that I can look into making adjustments.
Currently, the dragging is balanced toward making plays directly to the table. Playing cards on top of other cards is meant to be a little more exact. The math behind it is calculating area for the two cards and what percentage of their areas overlap, with anything above a set percentage counting as a "hit". I can easily adjust that percentage value as needed and have done so before.
I have tried to make these "popups" show up as briefly as possible while still being legible. This is a balancing act between informing the player about what is going on (which can otherwise be confusing at times) while not taking up too much of their time. I feel like the current balance is roughly where it needs to be without becoming overly annoying, but again, adjustments are always possible.
Early development versions of the game did not have these popups. This resulted in matches being extremely difficult to follow, even for experienced players. This information may feel superfluous, but it definitely isn't. I've seen what the game would be like without it.
It's meant to be. All the pink model cards are meant to add complications to your decks. You will get to upgrade them in the future to make them less annoying and more useful, but not just yet.
I'm not sure where I will end up on this. Creating illustrations for potentially hundreds of cards is extremely difficult, especially when some of the concepts are so abstract. Using AI for some of them was a way for me to get past this. Whether or not this AI art will survive to the final versions is something I'm undecided on. Honestly, it might depend a lot on how jurisdiction in this field develops over the coming months and years. If AI art continues to exist in a grey zone like today, I might just bite the bullet and commission art from real artists, but it's not exactly like I'm swimming in money with how my Patreon/SubscribeStar has dropped after LLtP was finished.