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It was really unexpected after all this time but it was a realy good update.
I was on Kleio path by default since i wasnt expecting to be cut out of the other routes so easily and didnt want to be on what i assume to be the pervert path with Nbit (and also out of curiosity since there wasnt anything with her in the first episode when i played it years ago).
She's a good character but her route just didnt do it for me (so far at least,but it have potential with how it ended), i never felt like she had any romantic feeling toward the mc at any moment and made it very clear that she dont love him, not that it's particulary shocking given her personnality, the dynamic in the crew and the little time they had up to that point.
She should have killed Zora when she had the opportunity though, and now it's mc who's paying the price for her doing the morale choice instead of the right one,not that i blame her for it and it's in her character, but it was obvious that it would bite her in the ass rater sooner than later.
So i'm realy curious to see what effect it will have on her in episode 3 since nothing would have happened to the mc if not for her choice to spare Zora, and she also chose to leave him behind just after.
It felt realy hypocritical of Oneros to say that he find despicable to own someone and yet is training and breaking slaves for others, and when you see the result with Medara at the end of this update (at least i assume so given what Kleio said about him turning them into living drugs and the state Medara was in front of Oneros), what he does is even worse.
A few question though :
For those who are in Kleio path,would it be possible to have a choice to reject the sex slave in Oneros palace in episode 1, so that the mc wouldnt have to lose his virginity to her? i mean since in both Drea and Jiljoo path he can lose it to them, it would have been nice to at least having the chance with Kleio too.
And a thing in episode 1, when mc have a choice to leave with Kleio and Jiljoo i chosed to stay because it felt like the right thing to do for me, but it we chose to stay and that we didnt vist Drea and visited Jiljoo, then it end both route by default without any warning .
Wouldn't it have been simpler to let us visit the 3 girls in the ship and then giving us choice about which girl we want to pursue, or to at least put a warning when mc have the choice to stay or leave the ship that it can end both route?
I was on Kleio path by default since i wasnt expecting to be cut out of the other routes so easily and didnt want to be on what i assume to be the pervert path with Nbit (and also out of curiosity since there wasnt anything with her in the first episode when i played it years ago).
She's a good character but her route just didnt do it for me (so far at least,but it have potential with how it ended), i never felt like she had any romantic feeling toward the mc at any moment and made it very clear that she dont love him, not that it's particulary shocking given her personnality, the dynamic in the crew and the little time they had up to that point.
She should have killed Zora when she had the opportunity though, and now it's mc who's paying the price for her doing the morale choice instead of the right one,not that i blame her for it and it's in her character, but it was obvious that it would bite her in the ass rater sooner than later.
So i'm realy curious to see what effect it will have on her in episode 3 since nothing would have happened to the mc if not for her choice to spare Zora, and she also chose to leave him behind just after.
It felt realy hypocritical of Oneros to say that he find despicable to own someone and yet is training and breaking slaves for others, and when you see the result with Medara at the end of this update (at least i assume so given what Kleio said about him turning them into living drugs and the state Medara was in front of Oneros), what he does is even worse.
A few question though :
For those who are in Kleio path,would it be possible to have a choice to reject the sex slave in Oneros palace in episode 1, so that the mc wouldnt have to lose his virginity to her? i mean since in both Drea and Jiljoo path he can lose it to them, it would have been nice to at least having the chance with Kleio too.
And a thing in episode 1, when mc have a choice to leave with Kleio and Jiljoo i chosed to stay because it felt like the right thing to do for me, but it we chose to stay and that we didnt vist Drea and visited Jiljoo, then it end both route by default without any warning .
Wouldn't it have been simpler to let us visit the 3 girls in the ship and then giving us choice about which girl we want to pursue, or to at least put a warning when mc have the choice to stay or leave the ship that it can end both route?
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Well .. see ... this is the beauty of Star Wars ... there are many moral choices that define the characters, so just making out of character choices based on what you know will be going on, because you already played the game a couple of times, does not make the relevance or the need of such a choice to occur.
MC makes choices and they feel meaningful because the many scenes follow a distinct path, it is this difference that gives weight to the choices and the fact that, in any good story, every character we follow should have wildly different paths even if they would converge towards the same goal or direction, so the fact we play the game multiple times should not mean flavor nonimportant choices but actual different perspectives for the journey of discovery and adventure for the MC.
MC makes choices and they feel meaningful because the many scenes follow a distinct path, it is this difference that gives weight to the choices and the fact that, in any good story, every character we follow should have wildly different paths even if they would converge towards the same goal or direction, so the fact we play the game multiple times should not mean flavor nonimportant choices but actual different perspectives for the journey of discovery and adventure for the MC.
This devs team is famous for asimetrical gameplay, for choices well written and twisted in ingenious different ways for different characters, so the story has meaning also on the gaming part, not just adding some flavor to same old scenes perpetually returning with the aspect of factory setting.
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About question 1, no, you can't reject the slave. If you could, players could have gone through the whole episode one without getting any sex scenes at all, which I guess it wouldn't have been that well received.
About question 2, the game is designed to choose a faithful and exclusive route with the girls, for a couple of reasons: first, it's just the way these devs make their games (you won't find any harem or even polyamorous relationships in them, maybe just some group sex scenes -and a non-canonical 3-way relationship in one of their 11 games, but that's all), and second, it's a way to force replayability, as each path adds a different layer to the overall story (there might be even a third reason, as this game is entirely designed by Mortze, not Tlaero, and he may have overseen some coding options to enable certain choices that Tlaero would've added, or maybe he just didn't properly compute the relationship points, accidentally forcing players to follow a 'perfect' path to get the sex scenes). Storywise, though, it still makes sense because, if you choose to pursue her (and this option is explicitly mentioned in the menu when the first mutually exclusive choices arise) Jiljoo breaks their first kiss because she feels that engaging in a more serious relationship with the MC would be pointless, as they are supossed to part ways as soon as they arrive to the planet. But then Kleio offers the option to follow them, which would allow the MC to stay close to Jiljoo; if you decline, then it's obvious you are not that interested in her so her romantic path is closed (as a collateral effect, you are left alone because Drea's path is already closed, as the MC never chose to spent time with her while in the ship so they just didn't get to know each other).
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the fall of the Jedi Order is stagnation even in their way to see the force, and Qui-Gon(and the likes) were considered outcasts while respected, Yoda had to experience the fall of the Jedi Order to see/notice what Qui-Gon noticed about the Force itself, Obi-wan had to listen and learn from Qui-Gon's bodyless voice during his years on Tatooine while looking over Luke.
Killing off people isn't a Jedi-thing, but at the same time, sometimes it's so necessary. Would i have killed Zora? No but i would have left her without any weapons and killed/kidnapped the flying droid.
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Would have Anakin surrendered they would certainly hesitate in that determination. It would take extraordinary circunstances to make a Jedi kill instead of all the other options and in the canon I only saw that train of thought with MAce Windu facing Palpatine.
I wouldn't consider Zora on the same level of threat as the Sith Lord.
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It's a complicated topic indeed, Star Wars has always been very black and white and apart from Windu there aren't many cases of grey.
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There is this matter of perspective. If you want Judge Dredd, you will get Judge Dredd problems - way more killings.
If you start killing peoole, then this is your most acclaimed profession as a rebel, just as many Jedi Heroes are portrayed in the Star WArs lore - they would be the most murderous people in the Galaxy, as most Americans do not murder ICE to defend or avenge defenseless women and children getting murdered by ICE.
Most law enforcement are spared the gruesome deaths star wars shows for many Empire forces when they step on the toes of the resistance or the jedi.
Batman and Superman would live a killer life style - they would be American Pshycho day in and day out.
The problem is unsanctioned killings, because we may cheer the murderer because we like her and hate her opponents, but there is a long way in civilisation from aprehesion to condemnation and then execution.
There is no difference with training day Denzel killing some drug dealer to Batman or Superman if they simply killed everyone they came across and they deemed them liable to get their vengeance, so there would be only violence and there would be nothing to live for outside of might makes right violence as a sole rule of law if heroes would kill indiscriminately anyone they came across, because we will always see the side and POV of our heroes and never care enough for anyone else.
This game makes a good point showing the stak differences in thoughts and actions between empire forces and the rebels, which is a matter of consistency when it coms to light vs. dark and how thoughts and the resulting emotions are turned into force use.
If you start killing peoole, then this is your most acclaimed profession as a rebel, just as many Jedi Heroes are portrayed in the Star WArs lore - they would be the most murderous people in the Galaxy, as most Americans do not murder ICE to defend or avenge defenseless women and children getting murdered by ICE.
Most law enforcement are spared the gruesome deaths star wars shows for many Empire forces when they step on the toes of the resistance or the jedi.
Batman and Superman would live a killer life style - they would be American Pshycho day in and day out.
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There is no difference with training day Denzel killing some drug dealer to Batman or Superman if they simply killed everyone they came across and they deemed them liable to get their vengeance, so there would be only violence and there would be nothing to live for outside of might makes right violence as a sole rule of law if heroes would kill indiscriminately anyone they came across, because we will always see the side and POV of our heroes and never care enough for anyone else.
This game makes a good point showing the stak differences in thoughts and actions between empire forces and the rebels, which is a matter of consistency when it coms to light vs. dark and how thoughts and the resulting emotions are turned into force use.
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no/not yet since it's only path it happens.
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is there a way to be with jilljoo and klejo?they seems to be close so would make sense ..right?
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