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kinglionheart

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Like I said, there is a lot of sub content of NTR. You are talking about Netorase.
Netori: What is Inoda doing is Netori. "Sleeping with a girl who have boyfriend." It is NTR also. But that is not cheating because Kirito and Asuna both want this experience.
Netorare: For example, "Asuna sleeping with Inoda because Kirito wants to watch this and jerk off." This is also NTR.
Netorase: "Asuna sleeping with Inoda. When Kirito saw this, he feels disgust and wants to kill himself but Asuna keep doing it because she feels good. That is also NTR.
There are other NTR types. That's why I told you, please use Google.
Oh that is you meant. I understand now. You thought NTR meant the umbrella term for all "neto" genres instead just shorthand for netorare. We were not talking about the same thing! Alright you do you.
 
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Paslicivi

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Oh that is you meant. I understand now. You thought NTR meant the umbrella term for all "neto" genres instead just shorthand for netorare. We were not talking about the same thing! Alright you do you.
Yes, I've been trying to explain this from the beginning. Since there is only a netorare tag in F95, there is a perception that NTR is the short name of netorare. That's why I tried to explain.
 

kinglionheart

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Yes, I've been trying to explain this from the beginning. Since there is only a netorare tag in F95, there is a perception that NTR is the short name of netorare. That's why I tried to explain.
You really should have explain that clearly in the beginning. I never heard anyone use NTR as the umbrella term before. Even if you google NTR it only returns netorare and you have to search the other neto separately to get results.
 
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demidemon

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Okay fine we will use the definition from F95 where Cheating [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.] And Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]. So my statement was still right since your example still fits the definition of cheating.

But I will concede with the definition of NTR a situation where a love interest is just interacting with other man without sex and the MC gets jealous is also NTR as ridiculous as it sounds. So NTR can be without cheating by F95's definition.
the netorare tag here is listed as a sexual content tag
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so this forum is not that ridiculous if you actually read the tag rules (when you feel confused) before jumping into a ridiculous conclusion...
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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is this a bug? after eating at the cafe and going home i cant seem to log in to FGO?
This is a bug that many have noticed but hasn't been fixed yet, after going to the cafe you gotta exit the map through the right and head straight home. If you try and leave the map using the 'train' or go somewhere else, for some reason the game 'breaks' and you can't progress because the trigger to enter FOG doesn't appear in your bed. I'm afraid you will need to reload from a save since before you left the cafe map to be able to continue.
 
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fryzard

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can you tell me why the second part of the game is very laggy and freezes when messages appear on the bottom left? and it happens in some locations, too, it freezes terribly. ?????
 

demidemon

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Don't know why you are being so pissy. You are the one who brought up the tag definitions when I said all netorare requires cheating. I only agreed with you there is a ridiculous way netorare can be without cheating. But if you brought up the tag definitions for other reason or a not ridiculous way netorare can be without cheating please educate me.
I wanted to pm you instead of hijacking the thread but I cant for some unknown reason?

anyway my first reply was about " All NTR is a type of cheating ", its not that simple because rape and blackmail can also be NTR but without cheating (MC can be watching things happen and be jealous). I don't want people to get wrong information.

I replied again because you make it sound like the site consider NTR possible without sex (" where a love interest is just interacting with other man without sex and the MC gets jealous is also NTR as ridiculous as it sounds"). But the NTR tag is a sexual content tag and I don't want people to receive more wrong information.
 

kinglionheart

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I wanted to pm you instead of hijacking the thread but I cant for some unknown reason?

anyway my first reply was about " All NTR is a type of cheating ", its not that simple because rape and blackmail can also be NTR but without cheating (MC can be watching things happen and be jealous). I don't want people to get wrong information.

I replied again because you make it sound like the site consider NTR possible without sex (" where a love interest is just interacting with other man without sex and the MC gets jealous is also NTR as ridiculous as it sounds"). But the NTR tag is a sexual content tag and I don't want people to receive more wrong information.
You told me to look up F95's definition of netorare when I said "All NTR is a type of cheating" so I did along with F95's definition of Cheating. Based on those two definitions the only way I can see NTR without cheating is if no sex is involved. But you said that was ridiculous. Please educate me if I am wrong. How can NTR involve rape or blackmail but not cheating? That is all I want to know.
 
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LordFrz

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Yes, I've been trying to explain this from the beginning. Since there is only a netorare tag in F95, there is a perception that NTR is the short name of netorare. That's why I tried to explain.
NTR was originally the abbreviation for specifically netorare, because netorare was the original term before netorase and netori came into popular usage. Thats why a lot of site only have netorare as a tag.
 

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I wanted to pm you instead of hijacking the thread but I cant for some unknown reason?

anyway my first reply was about " All NTR is a type of cheating ", its not that simple because rape and blackmail can also be NTR but without cheating (MC can be watching things happen and be jealous). I don't want people to get wrong information.

I replied again because you make it sound like the site consider NTR possible without sex (" where a love interest is just interacting with other man without sex and the MC gets jealous is also NTR as ridiculous as it sounds"). But the NTR tag is a sexual content tag and I don't want people to receive more wrong information.
Blackmail could still be argued to be cheating. But I agree, rape is not since the girl is not willingly well, cheating. The act of cheating is a choice the girl has to make. And just cheating does not mean it will be NTR.

You can also have NTR without cheating in the case that the MC is not in a sexual relationship with the girl. Such like as his mother being stolen by a school bully or what have you. That not cheating, but can still illicit the feeling of NTR.
 

renjen

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You told me to look up F95's definition of netorare when I said "All NTR is a type of cheating" so I did along with F95's definition of Cheating. Based on those two definitions the only way I can see NTR without cheating is if no sex is involved. But you said that was ridiculous. Please educate me if I am wrong. How can NTR involve rape or blackmail but not cheating? That is all I want to know.
One type of NTR I've seen, that doesn't really have a specific genre tag that I've seen that doesn't contain cheating or rape or blackmail, is for instance a guy has a crush on a girl, he's planning to confess to her, and out of left field comes another guy who "steals" her away. Two good examples are some hentai mangas Chitose and Leftovers - Classmates Who Lost Their Virginity. Some guy moves faster than the MC and so the girl gets "stolen". It gives kinda that feeling of NTR without the cheating.
 

kinglionheart

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Blackmail could still be argued to be cheating. But I agree, rape is not since the girl is not willingly well, cheating. The act of cheating is a choice the girl has to make. And just cheating does not mean it will be NTR.

You can also have NTR without cheating in the case that the MC is not in a sexual relationship with the girl. Such like as his mother being stolen by a school bully or what have you. That not cheating, but can still illicit the feeling of NTR.
One type of NTR I've seen, that doesn't really have a specific genre tag that I've seen that doesn't contain cheating or rape or blackmail, is for instance a guy has a crush on a girl, he's planning to confess to her, and out of left field comes another guy who "steals" her away. Two good examples are some hentai mangas Chitose and Leftovers - Classmates Who Lost Their Virginity. Some guy moves faster than the MC and so the girl gets "stolen". It gives kinda that feeling of NTR without the cheating.
Normally I would agree with you but demidemon is using F95's definition of Netorare with is [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.] and Cheating as [A significant other having sex with someone other than their partner.] so the mother example does not work. I really can't think of anyway of having Netorare without Cheating here without sex. But he says that is ridiculous. I could be wrong so I want to hear a example from him on how that is possible.
 
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demidemon

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You told me to look up F95's definition of netorare when I said "All NTR is a type of cheating" so I did along with F95's definition of Cheating. Based on those two definitions the only way I can see NTR without cheating is if no sex is involved. But you said that was ridiculous. Please educate me if I am wrong. How can NTR involve rape or blackmail but not cheating? That is all I want to know.
I think you need to re-read my second and third reply because you misunderstood everything I've said. If you still want to talk you need to pm me or let me pm you because we are hijacking the game thread.
 

noobpilot

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It is possible miss some scenes, or everything must in recollection room?
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This scene from Asuna pov does not exist, or somehow must be unlocked?
 

kinglionheart

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It is possible miss some scenes, or everything must in recollection room?
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This scene from Asuna pov does not exist, or somehow must be unlocked?
Some images are not part of any of the scenes in the Recollection Room so it does not show up. Install this amazing mod to unlock ALL images in the game.
https://f95zone.to/threads/sword-ar...agic-part-2-v0-35-fujino.154352/post-13589289

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Kysky

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There are some fixes to do to this update : mixed names during conversations, impossible to log to FOG after cafe dinner, game crashing.
 
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