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AlterInfernalAllius

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I won't argue if it is hard to create a Sinon school outfit and it is fact that he did went back and added content to the first release. That content like Hebishima and Sugu in the beginning, Inoda and the school prostitute, and reworking Kyouko. But never did I hear from him about replacing the random librarian girl with Sinon. I can admit it could have been Fujino thought a random NPC was fine as the librarian but later changed her to Sinon. Why can't you accept the simple reason of him not having enough time to make a Sinon school model for the first release so a generic model was used as placeholder is just as possible?
Well, if we're being 100% realistic, then yeah, it IS possible, it just seems super-farfetched that you would accept everything else that was added/changed was indeed Fujino doing as he said but Sinon replacing the NPC librarian girl wasn't XD But fair enough, I really don't wanna get into a pointless argument for something as pointless as this, is not even really relevant at all nor does it affect anything, so I hand it to you and drop it now :3
 

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Well, if we're being 100% realistic, then yeah, it IS possible, it just seems super-farfetched that you would accept everything else that was added/changed was indeed Fujino doing as he said but Sinon replacing the NPC librarian girl wasn't XD But fair enough, I really don't wanna get into a pointless argument for something as pointless as this, is not even really relevant at all nor does it affect anything, so I hand it to you and drop it now :3
Yes, instead we all must save our energy for next round of "What Parody Anime Game Fujino Should Make Next!". Since this round will last two months instead of one, everyone needs to stay hydrated for the long haul.
 
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4-kun

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To Love-Ru is very likely IMO, given it was in the poll SAO won, but yeah, better to wait until he finishes XP
never watched it, it's some harem stuff, if I remember correctly.

If I had to pick something unusual, I would go for black lagoon, but I would probably hate it as NTR, because I love the show and characters, and there is no fucking way any ugly bastard can mess with that girls ^^ there are some great doujins tho... damn :ROFLMAO:
 

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never watched it, it's some harem stuff, if I remember correctly.

If I had to pick something unusual, I would go for black lagoon, but I would probably hate it as NTR, because I love the show and characters, and there is no fucking way any ugly bastard can mess with that girls ^^ there are some great doujins tho... damn :ROFLMAO:
"There is no way any ugly bastard can mess with that girls" applies to 99% of the NTR for named series when one stops thinking about it, really. Even here in SAO as much as people hates Kirito, if it was "accurate" then not a single NTR plot would ever ever work for anyone in it despite how many NTR doujins there are of the series, so that probably shouldn't be an issue you consider :p
 
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4-kun

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"There is no way any ugly bastard can mess with that girls" applies to 99% of the NTR for named series when one stops thinking about it, really. Even here in SAO as much as people hates Kirito, if it was "accurate" then not a single NTR plot would ever ever work for anyone in it despite how many NTR doujins there are of the series, so that probably shouldn't be an issue you consider :p
I know, I know, but the Black Lagoon characters are literally modern pirates, criminals, soldiers, and killers. Then again, the whole city is full of ugly bastards who are this too, so it could be a damn dark NTR.^^
 
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Tyyyr

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I'm not in NTR as a kink, but still enjoy this game because I don't like Kirito. Same with other NTR games with weak, pathetic, indecisive main characters. It's fun watching the MC getting what he deserves.

So I don't think I want to play a NTR game in a scenario with a MC I like (like in Black Lagoon).
 
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I was watching the various scenes through the mod, I noticed the scene where Asuna rides the cock I think in a hotel, basically the gif that sent Fujino to Ci-en, but it's a scene added by the creator of the mod or I missed it in this update? And if I missed it, where and when does it happen?
 

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I'm not in NTR as a kink, but still enjoy this game because I don't like Kirito. Same with other NTR games with weak, pathetic, indecisive main characters. It's fun watching the MC getting what he deserves.

So I don't think I want to play a NTR game in a scenario with a MC I like (like in Black Lagoon).
Out of curiosity, why do you hate Kirito? I'm asking because I can understand someone hating villains, like Griffith from Berserk, even though it's not like hate but rather a dislike for a hatable character, which is positive for the story. But why do people hate main characters?

Hate is a strong word, but wishing someone to experience NTR leans more towards this than just dislike :)
 
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Tyyyr

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Out of curiosity, why do you hate Kirito? I'm asking because I can understand someone hating villains, like Griffith from Berserk, even though it's not like hate but rather a dislike for a hatable character, which is positive for the story. But why do people hate main characters?

Hate is a strong word, but wishing someone to experience NTR leans more towards this than just dislike :)
I intentionally used "don't like" and not hate. I also don't "wish" for him to be cucked, it's just fun to watch because he is such a male Mary Sue in the original story.

But for example seeing Rock from Black Lagoon getting NTR'ed would just feel bad. He is a likeable character with flaws and weaknesses that still tries his best. He is much easier to sympathize with (unlike Kirito).
 
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AlterInfernalAllius

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Out of curiosity, why do you hate Kirito? I'm asking because I can understand someone hating villains, like Griffith from Berserk, even though it's not like hate but rather a dislike for a hatable character, which is positive for the story. But why do people hate main characters?

Hate is a strong word, but wishing someone to experience NTR leans more towards this than just dislike :)
If I had to guess is probably because of the same misconception of thinking Kirito is some Gary Stu flawless character in the actual series, which most people watching the anime seem to think, like this fucking teenage boy didn't get a new trauma every other season, and Canonically hadn't won a single important fight in the series without someone else's help XD
 

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Out of curiosity, why do you hate Kirito? I'm asking because I can understand someone hating villains, like Griffith from Berserk, even though it's not like hate but rather a dislike for a hatable character, which is positive for the story. But why do people hate main characters?

Hate is a strong word, but wishing someone to experience NTR leans more towards this than just dislike :)
Here are some points why people do not like Kirito. Asuna started off as a strong character but slowly became an accessory to Kirito. Kirito in turn has lots of plot armor, neglects his other relationships, solely focus on gaming at many times
  1. Co-Dependency and Overreliance:
    • Issue: Throughout their journey in the virtual world, Kirito and Asuna become deeply co-dependent on each other. .
    • Discussion: While this level of devotion can be seen as romantic, some fans find it excessive and potentially unhealthy. The intensity of their emotional reliance might make them appear less independent as characters.
  2. Lack of Conflict in the Anime Adaptation:
    • Issue: The anime adaptation of Sword Art Online doesn’t fully explore certain nuances of Kirito and Asuna’s relationship that are present in the light novels.
    • Discussion: In the light novels, Kirito and Asuna argue more frequently, especially during their early interactions. These disagreements add depth to their dynamic and show that their relationship isn’t always smooth sailing. The anime’s omission of these moments might lead some fans to perceive their bond as overly idealized.
  3. Origins of Kirito’s “Beater” Nickname:
    • Issue: When Kirito declared himself a “Beater” (a beta tester and cheater) early in the game, it caused others to dislike him. Asuna was the only one who understood his true motivation behind this declaration.
    • Discussion: Some fans might feel that Kirito’s initial arrogance and secrecy about his beta testing status made him less likable. Asuna’s understanding softened this perception, but not everyone appreciates the backstory. in other words, its cringe.
  4. Asuna’s Cooking and Kirito’s Influence:
    • Issue: Asuna’s love for cooking in the game stems from a moment when Kirito shared cream with her during their early days trapped in Sword Art Online.
    • Discussion: While this is a sweet origin story, some fans argue that it reinforces traditional gender roles. Asuna’s culinary skills become a significant part of her character, and it’s tied to her interactions with Kirito.a huge contrast to her initial start as a solo player and climbing the ranks of the best guild.

In all i think most people think Asuna can do better, self inserting themselves into the role. Ugly bastard may be ugly but he is more of an excessive caricature of self inserting enjoyers of NTR. Another point is that the ugly bastard trope really adds contrast to Kirito, see also the old man trope Nishida.
 

4-kun

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I intentionally used "don't like" and not hate. I also don't "wish" for him to be cucked, it's just fun to watch because he is such a male Mary Sue in the original story.

But for example seeing Rock from Black Lagoon getting NTR'ed would just feel bad. He is a likeable character with flaws and weaknesses that still tries his best. He is much easier to sympathize with (unlike Kirito).
Hmm, okay, I understand your point to some extent, I guess ^^
 
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