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To be honest hebishima would have been okay if it was side quest to be honest i kinda was interested in the Charlie girlfriend and Manager story i wonder when it started also would could have seen it happen as a side quest
RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.551c] [Fujino]
- Oct 21, 2022
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Yea, I think he is doing a netorase route since it was heavily required. But I hope it is avoidable. When it's not it always lessons the netorare feel for me at the end.
Yea, bummed we didn't get to see the full Charlie and his girlfriend and store manager story. I wish he would have at least closed it out with charlie walkin in and seeing his girlfriend and the manager and thats why he leaves for his hometown. Then just have an easter egg in part 2 with sex sounds happening in the store backroom. EZPZ story finished.
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I think a lot of you guys are failing to see the potential of a foursome scene with InodaxAsuna and HebishimaXSister. We don’t need Hebishima gone to get Asuna and Suguha in the room together.
Furthermore, I’d hate to lose out on the setup for the library “student sessions” that we got in 0.1 with Hebi and the girls. Imagine that Inoda and Hebi become friends and they start bringing their respective girls there for example.
My opinion is that Inoda being the loser he is getting any girls besides Asuna + her Mom would lessen the impact of it for me. Meanwhile, him getting into a creepy possessive lovey-dovey corruption arc with Asuna where she not only falls for his dick but for him as a person sounds super hot/awesome to me. Again, just my personal preference.
Plus, it would allow us to still get frequent CG’s from the other girls while enjoying the slow burn fall of Asuna without rushing that plot line for instant gratification (and regret when we’re out of content).
In the end, I’ll trust what Fujino does with his work. Oh, and do support them on Patreon if you can!
Furthermore, I’d hate to lose out on the setup for the library “student sessions” that we got in 0.1 with Hebi and the girls. Imagine that Inoda and Hebi become friends and they start bringing their respective girls there for example.
My opinion is that Inoda being the loser he is getting any girls besides Asuna + her Mom would lessen the impact of it for me. Meanwhile, him getting into a creepy possessive lovey-dovey corruption arc with Asuna where she not only falls for his dick but for him as a person sounds super hot/awesome to me. Again, just my personal preference.
Plus, it would allow us to still get frequent CG’s from the other girls while enjoying the slow burn fall of Asuna without rushing that plot line for instant gratification (and regret when we’re out of content).
In the end, I’ll trust what Fujino does with his work. Oh, and do support them on Patreon if you can!
Hebishima is just a boring character but I think the new characters Klein X Alice would be even more boring, so what they fuck, I don't even know Alice in this game.
Thing is, that would 'realistically' make as little sense as Inoda getting all the girls ironically. Hebishima IS a complete piece of shit and Inoda is hated by all for being an ugly fuck, they're even less likely to become any sorta friendly that Inoda is to actually become friend with Kirito for real, so either way would be unrealistic, but the truth of the matter is that none of that is crossing Fujino's mind (Also Lisbeth at the very least was ALSO gonna end up 'prey' to Inoda regardless of these new possible changes, the setup of the first update already all but confirmed that).
But yeah, in the end this "get rid of Hebishima" possibility wasn't done at all because of Fujino thinking of a more proper way for the story to go, is because most people didn't care for Hebishima storyline period and he decided to bring up the chance that let him have to work less in a whole section of the game most player seemingly didn't really appreciate at all. In the end the only reason Hebishima existed was so there was another more 'realistic' plot of Suguha getting NTR-ed, but if most of the people commenting to him don't care for that and just want more of Inoda's plot then removing Hebishima's plot and using the girls that were gonna be his for Inoda's plot of getting Asuna is the most logical outcome (Because as mentioned before, Fujino wasn't gonna remove the girls period, he already made their models and everything after all and at the very least he willingly chose Suguha to be a part of the game since the beginning).
Also, this may just be me personally but when I wanted to see a Suguha x Asuna scene I didn't want it to be each with a different dick in them, but an actual threesome XP
Oh yeah, I agree with that, though to be fair we still don't even know if Klein WAS gonna get lucky with Alice, as someone mentioned earlier he could have been brought to replace "Charlie" and despite him not being Kirito he, like almost every decent male in this world, was getting NTR-d too in Part 1, Alice could have very well just have been set up to end up falling prey to the prostitution ring she's basically roping Kirito and Klein into investigating with her, but I agree it felt like the 'weakest' of the 3 plots being set up for Part 2, mainly because it didn't have any build-up from Part 1 and because Alice was made even more of a complete OC than anyone else in the game just to fit within a NTR plot, being nothing like her actual character at all (I think this may be because, I'm pretty sure, Alice and Lisbeth were only added to the game because of a poll and not an original plan of Fujino back in Part 1, so he had to set up something completely new for Alice as he yet wasn't thinking back then that "most people only just cares for Inoda's plot").
So either Fujino didn't offer to get rid of Klein over Hebishima because he wasn't gonna get any to begin with or because he thought immediately getting rid of him after he had just introduced him would be a waste too, while Hebishima has been (literally) fucking around since Part 1.
At the end of the day though, we're gonna have to wait a while to see what he decided, maybe a week or two when he releases the next update he will have come to a decision/conclusion whether following the poll or not.
The current plot of the second episode is facing a major bottleneck, which is how to bring back the physical intimacy between Asuna and Inoda. Even if Asuna forgives Inoda, it's difficult to create a plot where she agrees to have sex again.
Simply relying on desire doesn't seem like a good idea to me. But I'm also struggling to come up with a more logically consistent plot. It's definitely a challenge for Fujino. I have my doubts about how he will balance this important issue in the plot after putting so much emphasis on CGs.
If anyone can come up with a logical plot that doesn't compromise the established character development, I hope they can leave their suggestions on Patreon.
Simply relying on desire doesn't seem like a good idea to me. But I'm also struggling to come up with a more logically consistent plot. It's definitely a challenge for Fujino. I have my doubts about how he will balance this important issue in the plot after putting so much emphasis on CGs.
If anyone can come up with a logical plot that doesn't compromise the established character development, I hope they can leave their suggestions on Patreon.
- Sep 12, 2019
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My best guess is Kyoto will be used to create jealousy. Inoda uses Kyoto to make Asuna think he moved on from her. We know Asuna is getting lustier since Kirito can't satisfy her anymore and we know Asuna don't like her mother. She calls her awful woman or something. So while her lust is increasing maybe through Inoda doing things to her in-game, she finds out all sex Inoda is giving to Kyoto in real world. Basically he is doing all the things he wants with her to her mother. Until eventually her brain convinces her if she had sex with Inoda it would be for his sake not hers. Like she is saving him from Kyoto.
*Kyouko (but then again who cares to remember the name of Asuna's mom lol)
Adding to that, there is Lisbeth too. Whether Hebishima is removed or not and the other girls added to the main plot or not, Fujino has already set-up that Liz will somehow be used by Inoda, is very likely he will use something to blackmail her to into helping him with his plot to steal Asuna (Also likely he will fuck her too, but that goes without saying). Not very clear yet how to or what he would do it, especially as we have very little to go on there, but at the very least we know that.
- Aug 1, 2020
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That’s a totally fair take! And one I didn’t actually consider before, so thanks for sharing it.
Wow! I really like that idea, make sure to share it on the Patreon. (Or else I might, lol).
- Aug 15, 2022
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fujino is going decide what he decides im just wondering how is he is going to do alice story and lisbeth will they get corrupted by inoda or diffrent men?
- Sep 12, 2019
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I am glad you like my idea but it should be too late to make this the idea. If Fujino did not do this already, then changing it now would be a hassle. Remember my idea if that is what happens give me a high five.
Lisbeth is all but confirmed that she was gonna get fucked by Inoda, if the fact that she was literally part of the main plot wasn't enough, if you look at Inoda's blog his last entry mentions he knows she has been looking at him closely lately (Probably suspicious of his intentions), that he has noticed she's into Kirito, and now is wondering how to use that to his advantage.
Alice is harder to say, some think Klein was gonna get lucky with her, the other most likely outcome is that she would fall to the porn/prostitution ring the her plot was setting up for her, Kirito, and Klein to investigate, but we just have way too little info on her character or storyline yet to know for sure.
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Then don't. The game was not made to play on the phone. No workarounds.
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Unless Fujino is going the harem ending then Alice will somehow get with Inoda too!
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Y'all argue like Hebishima is some kind of antagonist, but for me he's just irrelevant. I don't care at all. It's the same with the random girls events in Part 1. Yeah, it's kind of cool that this exists and it shows that the whole town is ruled with perverts, but I don't think that this should be the main focus of the game.
Hence my point: focus on Inoda and Asuna. Then, if you'll have the time and passion for it, you can make irrelevant stuff as well, for the sake of the lore and fanservice. Hebishima in his current form is a filler.
Hence my point: focus on Inoda and Asuna. Then, if you'll have the time and passion for it, you can make irrelevant stuff as well, for the sake of the lore and fanservice. Hebishima in his current form is a filler.
LOL, yeah, that was more me answering exclusively with what is in the game right now XP
That's the "issue" enough people seemingly had (Not me as I like Suguha more but still), Hebishima's plotline was 'filler' for them but one you couldn't skip unlike the random NPCs events, the plot of Sugu getting NTR-ed was also 'main story' despite not being part of the Inoda plot because you needed to see it to continue regardless of if you wanted to or not. Those complaints are probably what brought about Fujino asking if people wanted to get rid of Hebishima in the first place.
- Oct 21, 2019
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This, but also I can't see how Suguha's arc can be seen as NTR. MC doesn't have any kind of sexual attachment/interest towards his sister, so for the player it's just a big waste of time that distracts them. I find this just as filler to enlarge the game, nothing more. And yes, I would like if Hebishima will be deleted, because I'm more invested into one person's drama of losing (or fear of losing) his girlfriend to another person. And I don't need to know if the town's people are all perverts and that many girls became sluts, it's completely irrelevant.
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Ha ha you people are still arguing about this topic.
(Oh here - no it's better like this - no I think right or wrong) I have also recently spoken out. I think different is good.
But I doubt that the author will read all the comments here so it is unlikely that it will even be accepted.
Of course, you can pay a bag of money to the author and say, but here's how it would be.
But then it will not be a game from the author and the fulfillment of someone's requests and wants. Eh no then it may not be interesting at all.
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Because if you read some people, they want one thing.
Scenes where everyone is fucked - And remove this and this remove - (Not enough request to remove the text and remove the plot) - And then it will be super - Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha.
Yeah, there'll be tons of scenes and no game, but tons of scenes. (Oh, and you can take names, or they can get in someone's way too. + We should make 5,000 girls per guy or man ha-ha.) + Oh, and there's another kind of person.
(A LOT OF BEGOTNY) - This kind of people get tired after 2-3 minutes of play and immediately begins (A LOT OF BEGOTNY) - Here if you put all of the above in the place of their requests and desires.
It turns out that they don't need that much to like it.
Remove all engines - LEAVE ONLY SCENES - 5000 girls and 1 guy (Who will 100% serve all of them in one day) - LEAVE ALL OTHER GUYS (This is the world - remove all other guys and men - NEVER A CATASTROPHE HAS BEEN DONE - And there is nothing in the SAP world about it) )-- No other guy should be blond - (Hey, of course, why are there such guys in anime, hentai and 18+ games? If you read everyone's comments, get rid of them) -
I don't know who but I'm personally interested in what the author will do and not what he decides to do at the request of someone - (Those who support him with money I understand if the author studies their opinion but even here you can't do everything as asked it's not a game will be just scenes without everything).
After the first part and the beginning of the second part I wanted to support the author, but if the author can not decide for himself what should be his game (Especially the field of information - About the removal of existing characters began to doubt me)
BUT THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR THAT HE DID NOT START WITH THE MOMENT - Asuna gave up and crawls after INODA like a naked dog on the street. Thank you want the beginning is intriguing.
But judging by the information from the game files EH-HHH not Asuna or other girls are not waiting for nothing good (Unless the author of course does not decide to play the game as in the first part).
But EH-HH only hope remains or the worst option to pay a bag of money to the author with one small condition - Make your own game and not the requests of others and do not rush to turn all the girls into Dogs - Sluts. (But the second option is doable but there are 2 reasons why the second option is not good. 1) You need to have a lot of money that the author would be interested and that he would make the game as a continuation of the first part and not as a 2-3 hour video Hentai or porn, although even there the worlds consist of not one guy on the entire planet and 2) Even paying and asking not to do too sharp acceleration in terms of the fall of all the characters - even such a small request is still a pressure on the author and the game may go wrong he intended here and remains only option HOPE that the game will be from , the author and not the requests of fans in the game. )
Sorry for such a text typed everything in a hurry for 5 minutes
(Oh here - no it's better like this - no I think right or wrong) I have also recently spoken out. I think different is good.
But I doubt that the author will read all the comments here so it is unlikely that it will even be accepted.
Of course, you can pay a bag of money to the author and say, but here's how it would be.
But then it will not be a game from the author and the fulfillment of someone's requests and wants. Eh no then it may not be interesting at all.
*************************
Because if you read some people, they want one thing.
Scenes where everyone is fucked - And remove this and this remove - (Not enough request to remove the text and remove the plot) - And then it will be super - Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha-Ha.
Yeah, there'll be tons of scenes and no game, but tons of scenes. (Oh, and you can take names, or they can get in someone's way too. + We should make 5,000 girls per guy or man ha-ha.) + Oh, and there's another kind of person.
(A LOT OF BEGOTNY) - This kind of people get tired after 2-3 minutes of play and immediately begins (A LOT OF BEGOTNY) - Here if you put all of the above in the place of their requests and desires.
It turns out that they don't need that much to like it.
Remove all engines - LEAVE ONLY SCENES - 5000 girls and 1 guy (Who will 100% serve all of them in one day) - LEAVE ALL OTHER GUYS (This is the world - remove all other guys and men - NEVER A CATASTROPHE HAS BEEN DONE - And there is nothing in the SAP world about it
) )-- No other guy should be blond - (Hey, of course, why are there such guys in anime, hentai and 18+ games? If you read everyone's comments, get rid of them) -I don't know who but I'm personally interested in what the author will do and not what he decides to do at the request of someone - (Those who support him with money I understand if the author studies their opinion but even here you can't do everything as asked it's not a game will be just scenes without everything).
After the first part and the beginning of the second part I wanted to support the author, but if the author can not decide for himself what should be his game (Especially the field of information - About the removal of existing characters began to doubt me)
BUT THANK YOU TO THE AUTHOR THAT HE DID NOT START WITH THE MOMENT - Asuna gave up and crawls after INODA like a naked dog on the street. Thank you want the beginning is intriguing.
But judging by the information from the game files EH-HHH not Asuna or other girls are not waiting for nothing good (Unless the author of course does not decide to play the game as in the first part).
But EH-HH only hope remains or the worst option to pay a bag of money to the author with one small condition - Make your own game and not the requests of others and do not rush to turn all the girls into Dogs - Sluts. (But the second option is doable but there are 2 reasons why the second option is not good. 1) You need to have a lot of money that the author would be interested and that he would make the game as a continuation of the first part and not as a 2-3 hour video Hentai or porn, although even there the worlds consist of not one guy on the entire planet
and 2) Even paying and asking not to do too sharp acceleration in terms of the fall of all the characters - even such a small request is still a pressure on the author and the game may go wrong he intended here and remains only option HOPE that the game will be from , the author and not the requests of fans in the game. ) Sorry for such a text typed everything in a hurry for 5 minutes
Ironically, as someone who personally likes Kirito x Suguha as a guilty pleasure, I agree with that, a lot of people that make "SAO NTR" are so overfocused on "making Kirito suffer" that don't realize that unlike most of your generic cliche harem series Kirito not only doesn't even remotely see any of the other girls at all romantically but he has eyes and is happy only with Asuna, so whenever any of the non-Asuna girls is included in an NTR plot is just for the sake of overdramatic NTR that isn't technically really NTR (Hell, Fujino in this game specifically messed up with the timeline to make Suguha's "NTR" plot able to happen at all, by somehow handwaving half of the Canon Fairy Dance arc despite how it should have happened in this game's timeline anyway, but if it had then Suguha would have already confessed her feelings to Kazuto/Kirito and accepted he's happy with Asuna, and he couldn't write Kirito like an oblivious idiot nor give her a reason to follow Hebishima's blackmail).
However, that's how Fujino made the game and we should respect that, he even left his country to be able to continue doing this after all. He originally wanted to do even more of this 'filler' as you say, what with adding yet another plot that wasn't part of the main story (Alice and Klein's). Only this combined with the 'small' first update of Part 2 (Even if it's perfectly understandable given his circumstances but a lot of people don't seem to realize this) caused a lot of complaining it seems so now he offered up a chance to change things and put more focus on the one most people want to see exclusively.
Personally, I want Hebishima gone for my own reasons/likes, which some people may or may not agree with and even can point out/think how that and folding Suguha and Shino into Inoda's plot would be helpful for Inoda's plans, but t at the end of the day is Fujino who should decide how to go forward and implement this, and I will respect his decision no matter what as I respect him a lot for the lengths he went to continue working on his games.