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AlterInfernalAllius

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If there would have been a third option of "Idc, just do whatever you think would be best." i would have definitely picked that one. Like i really don't care if Hebishima leaves or stays.

Honestly i didn't even know there was this much backlash about Hebishima, just the whole "There aren't enough scenes in a v0.1" BS.
It wasn't about Hebishima specifically, but he's the biggest example and the one who appeared in the 'poll' because he HAS been around since Part 1, or his 'side-plot' so to speak. The 'issue' is that despite most people treating Suguha's plot as something "secondary", Fujino clearly wrote it to be almost as important as the main one, just with less focus, but still as something that intrinsically affect the main character big time more than he had done before. A good comparison would be his Sakura Chapter game where you were still playing as 'Master' and getting videos of Scathatch being fucked by the Director but the main focus on the game was in the Chad BBC dude NTR-ing Sakura from Shirou, and even seeing he had already NTR-ed Rin and Saber in his 'blog'. In this game is like he did something similar but there weren't separated characters so it's all happening "to Kirito" (More like to all girls around him), which is why it felt more relevant, as it was clearly his intention.

The issue is that most people just didn't care for that because they only wanted to see the Inoda/Asuna plot which was the main focus of the game and disliked Fujino giving focus to other characters, that's why he decided to do away with the NPCs in the first place most likely, but it looks like the 'lack of content' for the first update of Part 2 must have made the complaints so much bigger that he ended up thinking it may be better to just do away with what people don't like (Hell, realistically, this may also be because of his current situation...imagine all he has had to do these past months just to keep making this game, would YOU want to keep writing something the apparent majority of your followers just don't give a shit about and just complain they wanna see more of Inoda if you were in his shoes? That's probably why he made it into a poll to fully see what people really wanted and adapt to it, I believe).

I don't know if you guys are joking or not......i also would love to see at least 1 extreme ending but i doubt it will happen quite like that xD

Maybe for FGO when is restarted, SAO is just too vanilla a setting for this xD

Of cours ei once saw a ntr game that suddenly ended with the MC being run over by a car......where his wife was suckign the netori's guy cock xD (honestly the whole thing was more of black humour than evil lol)
I particularly dislike such extreme endings, they feel like they're just straying more in "screw over the MC as hard as possible" rather than "the girl getting stolen away", which is something I feel the NTR genre has been affected by a lot in recent years and one of the main reasons I dislike it. SAO is a great example, as I said, it's literally one of the few series were having any of the non-Asuna girls being fucked by someone else or random men is not really "NTR" towards Kirito, yet countless doujins or works refocus or rewrite things especially to make it feel like that like people got off more from seeing Kirito suffer than seeing the girls getting fucked, lol.

And it's not even about disliking 'dark' things happening to Kirito for the sake of Hentai, really, as I said a while back my favorite SAO doujinshi was one where Kirito ended up waking up from SAO to a heavily pregnant (With HIS child) Suguha with a Yandere face saying he was just in time to see their baby be born, as she had been fucking him while he was inside (Hilariously at the same time he was busy having his 'honeymoon' with Asuna, lmao).
 

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Pretty much, I'm honestly quite baffled that people seem more fixated on hating the possibility (As it's not yet even sure if it would one way or another) of Inoda ending up with a 'Harem' than the fact that yet another girl is being added to the game with the next update no matter what, because it's not "realistic" (In a NTR game which already is unrealistic as fuck lol). They don't seem to get that, at this point, is not a matter of like or dislike or better flow or the story or anything, it's if Fujino WILL do it or not, that's all.

Fujino also got several 'complaints' in the past and he completely ignored them, like from the people who didn't want him to make the "Kirito ends up liking being cucked" route, and he ended up implementing it anyway. The fact he even brought up getting rid of Hebishima as actual real possibility for the game with a poll and everything, when he originally had doubled down on making more side-plots for the game despite people wanting him to mainly focus on Inoda&Asuna only means that the backslash finally became big enough it got to him, be it because too many people complained or because he was so exhausted from the issue of changing countries and getting a new job that he decided listening was better, who knows. But the fact of the matter is that at this point arguing if it will be better for the plot or the story is moot as even the creator itself is no longer considering that, just if he should or not continue writing something that the majority of players apparently didn't care for, that's all.
I'm one of those complainers. Imo, giving Inoda a harem doesn't really feel like a NTR plot. Mainly because Kirito and Asuna are the stablished couple. Now that Inoda is sleeping with Asuna's mom, that takes plot time away from InodaXAsuna. Which I don't mind, so long as Fujino uses Kyouko to push the main story, or decides introduces Asuna's Dad. Now that's NTR. Having Inoda sleep with the other girls will cheapen the NTR feel of the game... Unless one of the girls does a reversal NTR and sleeps with Kirito . Either way, I wouldn't mind watching Kirito dabbling in Netorase or NTRish scenes in front of him that are out of his control INSIDE the game (fog?).
 

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I don't mind there being non InodaxAsuna scenes, but I would mind if all the non-InodaxAsuna scenes are just Inodaxother girls scenes.

It makes sense with Liz and the mom, not with the others. Fujino should just keep the Hebishima plot and continue following his own vision.
 

kinglionheart

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Fujino should just keep the Hebishima plot and continue following his own vision.
Honesty that is probably too late. As soon as v1 of Part 2 and I noticed he got rid of most his OC characters and replaced them with the canon SAO characters, I realized he is changing the game to suit his audience. It is unlikely Klein and Liz was always suppose to appear since there was no mention of them. With the poll asking if we wanted to axe Hebishima, it is more apparent he is willing to changing his game. Hebishima being a major subplot, he can't be fridged so suddenly so hopefully we get a good sendoff if he is axed.

Just not too many sudden changes or everything will be ruined. The game can still be good with the fan-preferred changes but wanting him to follow his own vision is too late.
 

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in my case I prefer cuckito to be in a coma in his wheelchair and inoda destroying ASUNA in front of him and cuntsuna saying she loves him and will take care of him.
Fuck that is amazing I would play any game you make or any story you write

Or just physically disabled, and then eventually mentally tortured into insanity from being forced to watch 24/7
 
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AlterInfernalAllius

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Honesty that is probably too late. As soon as v1 of Part 2 and I noticed he got rid of most his OC characters and replaced them with the canon SAO characters, I realized he is changing the game to suit his audience. It is unlikely Klein and Liz was always suppose to appear since there was no mention of them. With the poll asking if we wanted to axe Hebishima, it is more apparent he is willing to changing his game. Hebishima being a major subplot, he can't be fridged so suddenly so hopefully we get a good sendoff if he is axed.

Just not too many sudden changes or everything will be ruined. The game can still be good with the fan-preferred changes but wanting him to follow his own vision is too late.
It's now gone because he had to delete everything from Ci-En and Pixiv when he moved from China, but Alice and Liz showing in Part were indeed actually just because of a poll he made I believe? Klein WAS referenced in Part 1, but he most likely indeed wasn't gonna be an active part of the game until he added Alice and decided to use him for her plot, so yeah, since he finished Part 1 he was already going the way of "listening" to the fans a bit more, it just seems it went a bit too out of his hands because of all the issues that happened (It's very likely that if China had never suddenly taken this insane "Anyone making +18 content of any kind is now considered a criminal"-approach then the game would just have continued however Fujino wanted with the 2 separate subplots outside the main one, but everything else combined made Fujino decide to compromise more).
 

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Fuck that is amazing I would play any game you make or any story you write

Or just physically disabled, and then eventually mentally tortured into insanity from being forced to watch 24/7
Jeez, you must be new here. This guy has pitched this terrible "wheelchair" ending for multiple months now, its an awful idea and at this point about as annoying as the dumbass "preggo" people on vanila threads.
 

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I know it's beating a dead horse, but the only scene I want from V1 of that night with Inoda x Asuna is the early morning where Kirito knocks on Inoda's door to see how he's doing.

I want a scene where Inoda is still going at a semi-unconscious or cum drunk Asuna (doggy), then it ends, with her body slumping down on the bed with her pussy gaping, and Inoda's horse cock drapped across her ass/thigh, her toes curled and pissing herself.

Then I think most people would be happy with that closure.
 

kinglionheart

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I know it's beating a dead horse, but the only scene I want from V1 of that night with Inoda x Asuna is the early morning where Kirito knocks on Inoda's door to see how he's doing.

I want a scene where Inoda is still going at a semi-unconscious or cum drunk Asuna (doggy), then it ends, with her body slumping down on the bed with her pussy gaping, and Inoda's horse cock drapped across her ass/thigh, her toes curled and pissing herself.

Then I think most people would be happy with that closure.
Have some hope bro. We know something will be added to the stormy night next update. So maybe???
 

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I know it's beating a dead horse, but the only scene I want from V1 of that night with Inoda x Asuna is the early morning where Kirito knocks on Inoda's door to see how he's doing.

I want a scene where Inoda is still going at a semi-unconscious or cum drunk Asuna (doggy), then it ends, with her body slumping down on the bed with her pussy gaping, and Inoda's horse cock drapped across her ass/thigh, her toes curled and pissing herself.

Then I think most people would be happy with that closure.
Yeah, rather than adding scenes to the stormy night, it would be better to continue from the last scene from V1 when kirito knocks on the door.
We saw that they were still going at it all morning, so just a few scenes about that morning and we're done. The stormy night was done great imo, no need to alter it.
 

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Jeez, you must be new here. This guy has pitched this terrible "wheelchair" ending for multiple months now, its an awful idea and at this point about as annoying as the dumbass "preggo" people on vanila threads.
and why don't you like an extreme NTR ending where it makes you feel real hatred towards inoda ahah so weak people have become these days xd it would still become canon alicization and it wouldn't be bad.
 

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How many people like AsunaxKirito's canon pairings and like Kirito's character? How many people like Asuna ntr as fantasies?
I wrote about this once. I like Asuna ntr as fantasy and I like AsunaxKirito pairings canonically. I'm reading the LN, and I'm a fan of the AsunaxKirito couple, I'm waiting for the author to write a wedding about Asuna and Kirito.
I'm not interested in haters/trolls and I ignore them, except for the couple's fans
Porn and non porn are completely separate for me. Porn I want hard core complete degeneracy. Nonporn stuff that I actually gett invested in I want fairytale happiness.
 

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and why don't you like an extreme NTR ending where it makes you feel real hatred towards inoda ahah so weak people have become these days xd it would still become canon alicization and it wouldn't be bad.
Im fine with an extrem NTR ending but they way you pitched it is super unrefined and at most a bare concept.
Just the idea "Kirito should be in a wheelchair whiles Asuna and Indoa have sex" is just a scene and not an acutal story idea.
Lets take the one time you actually made this idea a bit more realized.

I expect a despicable ending such as cuckito ending up in a wheelchair because of problems with the server and asuna being destroyed by inoda in front of him.and inoda saying don't worry sempai we will take good care of you.
Kirito ending up in a wheelchair because of a server problem means that it would be just dumb luck and not even Inodas doing, meaning some of the crulty is lost.
Inoda showing any signs of sympathy by saying things like "we will take good care of you" is also a bizzarly backwards thing of him to do.
It also completely neglects any concept for FOG by having the only cruel thing be something that happens in the real world.

They are all in school together, they already spend most of their time in close proximity to eachother. Inoda lives literally next door to Kirito, it would be so easy to just have him be tourmented every night by always hearing Asuna the next room over and maybe constantly sending messages to Kiritos or have Kirito check Inodas blog with videos of them fucking.
 
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Im fine with an extrem NTR ending but they way you pitched it is super unrefined and at most a bare concept.
Just the idea "Kirito should be in a wheelchair whiles Asuna and Indoa have sex" is just a scene and not an acutal story idea.
Lets take the one time you actually made this idea a bit more realized.



Kirito ending up in a wheelchair because of a server problem means that it would be just dumb luck and not even Inodas doing, meaning some of the crulty is lost.
Inoda showing any signs of sympathy by saying things like "we will take good care of you" is also a bizzarly backwards thing of him to do.
It also completely neglects any concept for FOG by having the only cruel thing be something that happens in the real world.

They are all in school together, they already spend most of their time in close proximity to eachother. Inoda lives literally next door to Kirito, it would be so easy to just have him be tourmented every night by always hearing Asuna the next room over and maybe constantly sending messages to Kiritos or have Kirito check Inodas blog with videos of them fucking.
your idea is good but what I say more like a really bad ending or a really bad closing since according to fujino's plans it seems that it will have more than one ending.
 
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BleepBloop321

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your idea is good but what I say more like a really bad ending or a really bad closing since according to fujino's plans it seems that it will have more than one ending.
I mean what i was trying to get at wasn't an "idea" perse, more just a statement on what the setting of the game is.
I do think there should be a really bad ending aswell, but it should happen due to Inodas influence and manipulation rather than it just happening by chance. A more forced approach like Asuna tricking Kirito into BDSM play and tying Kirito to a chair and then just fucking Inoda infront of him or something, sorta like the Secazz "the legend of zelda" animation.
Again, im not saying that is 100% what it should be 1/1 just that it should happen due to Inodas influence. Hell if you want the "wheelchair" ending so bad it should be because Asuna "accidentally" breaks Kiritos hip or something.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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your idea is good but what I say more like a really bad ending or a really bad closing since according to fujino's plans it seems that it will have more than one ending.
I'm pretty sure the 'more than one ending' thing is just because Fujino decided to implement the "Kirito likes being cucked" route, not that he will make a bunch of very different endings, so depending on the bars we will get either the unaware normal NTR ending or one where Kirito is aware of it but gets off it.
 
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BleepBloop321

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I'm pretty sure the 'more than one ending' thing is just because Fujino decided to implement the "Kirito likes being cucked" route, not that he will make a bunch of very different endings, so depending on the bars we will get either the unaware normal NTR ending or one where Kirito is aware of it but gets off it.
I actually think that there might be a third ending because of the different meters. One where Kirito stays ignorant, one where Kirito finds out and hates it and one where it becomes netorase.
Thats just a feeling tho and not based on anything Fujino has said, so it might aswell not be true at all.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I actually think that there might be a third ending because of the different meters. One where Kirito stays ignorant, one where Kirito finds out and hates it and one where it becomes netorase.
Thats just a feeling tho and not based on anything Fujino has said, so it might aswell not be true at all.
I mean, it COULD be, but as mentioned there is nothing either in the game or from Fujino suggesting it (Plus, the fact he has been constantly tying up Kirito suddenly starting to suspect with moments he gets hard from it, like the 'nightmare', seem as if he was already implying it). Also I wouldn't want people to start thinking they can ask for Fujino to make a bunch of different endings, he already has a track record of not finishing games, is having a lot of issues in his life to continue this one already and is more susceptive to pressure from the fans...
 
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