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mos555

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Idk 4 since the beginning i always had the impression she was unsatisfied for some reason, and about reality or consequences remember in the council Fujino let some plot devices in place, some people who dont like both of them and had plenty to gain with their fall.
I would say that in the first part, Kirito and Asuna had a normal relationship. Asuna only started getting mad at Kirito when he expressed dislike for Inoda. And all the NTR was either manipulations of "Asuna senpai, I'm a little fat guy nobody needs", or violence. In the second part, Asuna's corruption has already become visible. An embarrassed, pitiful face during sex with Kirito, masturbation in a tent, and so on. Logically, Asuna doesn't want to admit to herself that she's a liar even now. Asuna can't call Kirito a liar because that means she's the same, and even worse. Therefore, "poor Kirito is under pressure" "And I'm just satisfying carnal desire so as not to put pressure on Kirito." That is, according to Asuna, she and Kirito are still doing well in their relationship.

In her opinion, the first thing in a relationship is love, sex is secondary. For now, Fujino just has to start substituting concepts in Asuna's head.
 

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I would say that in the first part, Kirito and Asuna had a normal relationship. Asuna only started getting mad at Kirito when he expressed dislike for Inoda. And all the NTR was either manipulations of "Asuna senpai, I'm a little fat guy nobody needs", or violence. In the second part, Asuna's corruption has already become visible. An embarrassed, pitiful face during sex with Kirito, masturbation in a tent, and so on. Logically, Asuna doesn't want to admit to herself that she's a liar even now. Asuna can't call Kirito a liar because that means she's the same, and even worse. Therefore, "poor Kirito is under pressure" "And I'm just satisfying carnal desire so as not to put pressure on Kirito." That is, according to Asuna, she and Kirito are still doing well in their relationship.

In her opinion, the first thing in a relationship is love, sex is secondary. For now, Fujino just has to start substituting concepts in Asuna's head.
Actually, if you have "See everything" Mode activated in Part 1, you can see that from the beginning Asuna IS dissatisfied with Kirito, she was masturbating right after they had sex the first time onscreen because she couldn't even reach orgasm with him, as per NTR rules, so while it was only physical back then it was already a full change of the NTRverse made by Fujino to already give cracks to their relationship that are nonexistent in actual SAO XD
 
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I understand were you coming from, I didn't buy their relationship from the start, from a writing perspective.
But I'm talking about the very beginning, here she seems happy enough to me. :sneaky:

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That's what I'm saying, the first part was NTR based on violence and manipulation. People probably don't like that Asuna is turning into a whore. I can't say that I disagree. Everyone is like this type of NTR as in the first part, I like it more.
 
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O my god, yes, the web novel appeared in 2002 in the form of a competitive work. So what time should we refer to what Kawahara Reki says? If he said that initially he had other plans for Kirito's romantic interest, then what does this apply to? I remember that he said that he had the idea to remove Asuna in the beginning. What does he consider to be the beginning for himself? Or what does he consider the beginning of this interview? WebNovel or LightNovel? I don't remember, I saw this interview a lot of time ago. I remember how Kawahara Reki tweeted that ALFheim has a "moral code" system that prohibits sexual interactions embedded at the core level and cannot be turned off. Kawahara wrote WN "Fairy Dance" in 2003, and Twitter appeared in 2006, and became popular in the world after 2010. If Kawahara Reki tweeted something does it refer to WN or LN? WN readers can now think that Oberon raped Asuna in a cage, and LN readers can sleep peacefully, Asuna's pussy is protected by Kawahara Reki tweet.
I believe he was talking about Sachi there actually. She was supposed to be his first love. Ofc that was later retconned by Progressive. Sry for being obnoxious, but smth just doesn't add up. Like the story would make no sense if Asuna just upped and left him like that lol. How would the fans even know he was going to do this to change his mind by bullying him tho?
I do think by removal tho, he might have meant her dying at the end of Aincrad. Cause that arc ended with Kirito walking with his IV tube attached.
 

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Actually, if you have "See everything" Mode activated in Part 1, you can see that from the beginning Asuna IS dissatisfied with Kirito, she was masturbating right after they had sex the first time onscreen because she couldn't even reach orgasm with him, as per NTR rules, so while it was only physical back then it was already a full change of the NTRverse made by Fujino to already give cracks to their relationship that are nonexistent in actual SAO XD
Well, it wasn't that she was unhappy, rather she just said that Kirito's stamina was not up to par. There was no outright dissatisfaction in this scene. Asuna wasn't up to it there at all.

But I think the whole point is in the question. If Inoda hadn't appeared and raped Asuna, would she have become like this anyway?
 

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But I think the whole point is in the question. If Inoda hadn't appeared and raped Asuna, would she have become like this anyway?
Without Inoda Asuna would not have experience so much new pleasures. Any unsatisfied needs would have been suppressed and ignored. I am sure she would have gone to America with Kirito and had a mostly happy satisfied marriage with Kirito.

The thing with Oberon was just weird and never mentioned so I don't think it would affect anything.
 

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It is hard to remember since it was so long ago. One of the first IRL Asuna sex scenes was after having sex with Kirito she was unsatisfied that she had to finish herself off with a vibrator. So yes she wasn't satisfied with Kirito sex but still loved him so much it didn't bother her much.
I understand were you coming from, I didn't buy their relationship from the start, from a writing perspective.
But I'm talking about the very beginning, here she seems happy enough to me. :sneaky:
Well guys i was talking from her POV in the story, she was unsatisfied for a reason she was comparing Kirito and Oberon even if unconsciously at that point she only had sex with both of them, and from the last update when Inoda ask her about Kirito she tells him he never make her cum or lick her pussy, because his dick was to small and she only cum with big ones and she like big dicks in a generic way only after that she talk about her junior's dick.
So someone else with a big dick make her cum like crazy before, and since she lied/hide about oberon to kirito this will play a part in the future.
 

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Without Inoda Asuna would not have experience so much new pleasures. Any unsatisfied needs would have been suppressed and ignored. I am sure she would have gone to America with Kirito and had a mostly happy satisfied marriage with Kirito.

The thing with Oberon was just weird and never mentioned so I don't think it would affect anything.
If in the end it turns out that Inoda was from the very beginning an agent of the council with erased memory and a bookmark in his mind "seduce Asuna."? Based on the plot, if there had been no Inoda, the council and the Administrator would have found another way.

As for Asuna, at least at the beginning of the game she was fine with Kiritos performance. Well, until Inoda showed her the way of pleasure. That's why that retcon with Oberon might seem a bit off.
In the first part, Kirito also had a nightmare with Oberon and Asuna. I found this in Gallery mod. But there it was not explained at all, it just increased suspicion of Inoda.
 
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If in the end it turns out that Inoda was from the very beginning an agent of the council with erased memory and a bookmark in his mind "seduce Asuna."? Based on the plot, if there had been no Inoda, the council and the Administrator would have found another way.

In the first part, Kirito also had a nightmare with Oberon and Asuna. I found this in Gallery mod. But there it was not explained at all, it just increased suspicion of Inoda.
I still think Inoda has nothing to do with the council. All the council wants hidden memories in Kirito's head. With no Inoda they would have still have the brothel investigation with Alice so they would have gotten Kirito into the maze anyway.

Part 1's Oberon nightmare made since back then the game was very close to the canon. The game could have happened right after ALO so Kirito would have worries about Oberon keeping Asuna captured so long and not done something to her. Even in Reki's stories villains raping women happens all the time.
 

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Well guys i was talking from her POV in the story, she was unsatisfied for a reason she was comparing Kirito and Oberon even if unconsciously at that point she only had sex with both of them, and from the last update when Inoda ask her about Kirito she tells him he never make her cum or lick her pussy, because his dick was to small and she only cum with big ones and she like big dicks in a generic way only after that she talk about her junior's dick.
So someone else with a big dick make her cum like crazy before, and since she lied/hide about oberon to kirito this will play a part in the future.
It may have been retconned to that explanation in Part 2, but back in Part 1, I’m pretty sure Fujino didn’t think about this. Oberon was just a nightmare—there was no Admin, no council, or any data within Kirito’s mind they wanted to gather. All of that was introduced in Part 2 as the new plot. Fujino didn’t plan to make two parts to begin with
 

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Here you go
-Part 1 Rec. Room Mod [Update 8]
-Added - Old Titles screen animation x2

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Make a backup of "\www\js\plugins.js" before trying or the whole game will not work

In www -> img -> "titles1" folder
Copy 标题1 (1) to 标题1 (82) and 标题2 (1) to 标题2 (116)
Paste them in this folder "Special__actionSeq"

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Replace .json files in www -> data folder
Replace plugins.js in www -> js folder
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------- PART 2 Mod -------
Version 0.60 can be found here:
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------- PART 2 Mod -------

Help me how to install it, I follow the instructions but it gives an error
 

cp2020

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2. The hospital room is reserved for Asuna’s family, not exclusively for her. Hard to say if that’ll play any role in future updates or if it’s just a reference to the Aincrad arc.
Perhaps there is a difference between the Chinese and English versions :unsure:. I do remember I has this impression when playing the Chinese version, that it says the patient room is reserved for Asuna because her family is an important shareholder of the hospital. And logically it's hard for me to believe that Asuna and her parents will share the same patient room (with one bed only) instead of each one having their own, as being a rich family.

Maybe I should go back and look at the script there again. Personally I think the Chinese version is more accurate as Fujino is Chinese.
 
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mos555

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I still think Inoda has nothing to do with the council. All the council wants hidden memories in Kirito's head. With no Inoda they would have still have the brothel investigation with Alice so they would have gotten Kirito into the maze anyway.

Part 1's Oberon nightmare made since back then the game was very close to the canon. The game could have happened right after ALO so Kirito would have worries about Oberon keeping Asuna captured so long and not done something to her. Even in Reki's stories villains raping women happens all the time.
If Fujino wanted to make the game closer to the original, he did not take into account that about 3 years have passed since the time of ALO. That is, after Oberon's violence, Asuna lived quietly with Kirito for 3 years, while knowing how good sex is with another.
Who is this Inoda, him took only a month for Asuna to start throwing away years of relationships in the trash?
 

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Buenos días a todos, este es mi primer post por aquí :), no me animo a escribir porque soy español, aunque me defienda muy bien con el Inglés, y me da un poco de pereza xD.
Vamos al turrón... Ayer leí un comentario de un lector de este foro, en el que decía que Fujino está lanzando su juego con actualizaciones muy breves para cobrar mas dinero con su cuenta de Patreon, no fueron sus lineas exactas pero ese es mi resumen.
El caso es que cada uno hace lo que quiere, si quieres donar dinero al creador y ayudarlo eres libre de hacerlo, pero... si no recuerdo mal, y corregidme si me equivoco, nunca he visto un RPG con el motor RPGMaker con excenas sexuales 3D con una animación tan buena.
Si lo he visto con otros motores de juego,por ejemplo en "Holy Knight Ricca", pero en RPGMaker no, Fujino es un gran artista a mi parecer, pero no olvidemos que es solo una persona, con problemas y responsabilidades como todos tenemos, que además ahora tiene problemas de salud (mi apoyo desde aquí) y que hacer todo lo que está haciendo requiere mucho esfuerzo y dedicación.
Un saludo a todos!!
For those who are too lazy to do the translation.

Good morning everyone, this is my first post here :), I do not urge myself to write because I am Spanish, although I defend myself very well in English, and I am a little lazy xD. Let's move on to nougat... Yesterday I read a comment from a reader of this forum in which he said that Fujino is releasing his game with very short updates in order to get more money from his Patreon account, these were not his exact lines, but this is my summary. The fact is that everyone does what they want, if you want to donate money to the creator and help him, you can do it, but... If I remember correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, I've never seen an RPGMaker role-playing game with 3D sexual excesses with such good animation. If I've seen him with other game engines, like in Holy Knight Ricca, but not in RPGMaker, then in my opinion Fujino is a great artist, but let's not forget that he's just one person. With problems and responsibilities, like all of us, who also have health problems now (my support is from here) and that doing everything you do requires a lot of effort and dedication. Greetings to all!!
 

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Help me how to install it, I follow the instructions but it gives an error
Did you use the Saikey Translation version?

Perhaps there is a difference between the Chinese and English versions :unsure:. I do remember I has this impression when playing the Chinese version, that it says the patient room is reserved for Asuna because her family is an important shareholder of the hospital. And logically it's hard for me to believe that Asuna and her parents will share the same patient room (with one bed only) instead of each one having their own, as being a rich family.

Maybe I should go back and look at the script there again. Personally I think the Chinese version is more accurate as Fujino is Chinese.
It is just a reference to SAO canon where Asuna had her own room when she was in Aincrad like 4-kun said. Also what a waste to reserve a large room with multiple bed or multiple rooms. That are the chances of the entire Yuuki family being hospitalized at the same time? The room with one bed is so there is always a room opened for them.

In the English version it says it is for Kirito's family so bad translation there. The Chinese version is always more accurate since the English version is ChatGPT-translated from the Chinese version.
 
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For those who are too lazy to do the translation.

Good morning everyone, this is my first post here :), I do not urge myself to write because I am Spanish, although I defend myself very well in English, and I am a little lazy xD. Let's move on to nougat... Yesterday I read a comment from a reader of this forum in which he said that Fujino is releasing his game with very short updates in order to get more money from his Patreon account, these were not his exact lines, but this is my summary. The fact is that everyone does what they want, if you want to donate money to the creator and help him, you can do it, but... If I remember correctly, and correct me if I'm wrong, I've never seen an RPGMaker role-playing game with 3D sexual excesses with such good animation. If I've seen him with other game engines, like in Holy Knight Ricca, but not in RPGMaker, then in my opinion Fujino is a great artist, but let's not forget that he's just one person. With problems and responsibilities, like all of us, who also have health problems now (my support is from here) and that doing everything you do requires a lot of effort and dedication. Greetings to all!!
Thank you mos555, and sorry for write in spanish :)
 

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4. And this last one is just a stupid hentai trope to showcase Inoda’s ‘godly’ performance. :LOL:
Yeah that's what I said maybe it's just a common narrative method in hentai and animations. I know IRL there are cases where people pass out during sex, but trust me man this is not a good thing neither for the male nor for the female.
 
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mos555

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Yeah that's what I said maybe it's just a common narrative method in hentai and animations. I know IRL there are cases where people pass out during sex, but trust me man this is not a good thing neither for the male nor for the female.
Yeah, in real life, losing consciousness during sex is an excuse to go to the doctor. Low blood oxygenation and lack of oxygen in the brain is not good. Although some have a fetish associated with strangulation during orgasm. Because the brain thinks it's dying, it throws out all the coolest hormones and enhances orgasm. Asuna knows a lot about getting high.
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Oh, I hope someone understood the reference...
 
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