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4-kun

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I agree! It is still difficult to judge the consequences of some decisions. It would be good if Fujino, in future updates, somehow warned about the consequences of past elections. For example, "if you chose to talk Sinon about hallucinations in version 0.60, then an event will occur in this update."
Idk if it makes sense to spoil such things right now. For the most part, we get a predetermined save file from Fujino without the possibility of actually playing the update with our own choices. But once Part 2 is finished, you could go and replay certain story parts to see different outcomes by using the 'Choose Chapter' menu. Well, if he’s going to keep that option. Otherwise, you’d need to replay the whole game. :LOL:
 
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I mean, sorry to burst your bubble 4-kun, but not REALLY? Reminder, unlike the Klein/Alice outcome, which you could alter depending on your choices, the Sinon/Leafa scene could NOT be affected by your own choices a all, because it was ONLY VISIBLE IN THE REC. ROOM XD There is absolutely no way to see the scene during your actual gameplay, and if you unlock the scene in the rec. room you immediately straight up get to choose which outcome you wanted, therefore literally nothing you choose regarding Sinon in the game would affect that because the only real thing allowing you to see it is what you choose before watching it in the rec. room XP
Et tu, Brute!? :eek:
I know; I just used it as an example to illustrate my theory. :cautious:
 
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Idk if it makes sense to spoil such things right now. For the most part, we get a predetermined save file from Fujino without the possibility of actually playing the update with our own choices. But once Part 2 is finished, you could go and replay certain story parts to see different outcomes by using the 'Choose Chapter' menu. Well, if he’s going to keep that option. Otherwise, you’d need to replay the whole game. :LOL:
Well, for now, downloading the save that Fujino offers is the only choice for me. I wasn't going to replay the game until it was fully released. And even here, people often complain about new bugs in the old version. For example, someone wrote here that he teleports directly from the church to the hospital. This essentially makes the game impassable. So we can only wait. :cool:
 
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What is the date at the start of the update? Does anyone have a save at the start of the update?
 

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Well, for now, downloading the save that Fujino offers is the only choice for me. I wasn't going to replay the game until it was fully released. And even here, people often complain about new bugs in the old version. For example, someone wrote here that he teleports directly from the church to the hospital. This essentially makes the game impassable. So we can only wait. :cool:
Playing a WIP game from the beginning is just a unintentional bug finding exercise. I won't do a full playthrough from the beginning until Saikey release their official game. Let them do the bug finding and fixing. I will just enjoy the mostly bugfree game someone else made. :cool:

What is the date at the start of the update? Does anyone have a save at the start of the update?
Save 1 included with the release starts at beginning of the update.
 
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Playing a WIP game from the beginning is just a unintentional bug finding exercise. I won't do a full playthrough from the beginning until Saikey release their official game. Let them do the bug finding and fixing. I will just enjoy the mostly bugfree game someone else made. :cool:


Save 1 included with the release starts at beginning of the update.
For part 1 is the Saikey version better (?)
 

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For part 1 is the Saikey version better (?)
I would say it depends on your likes/tastes? For example, Part 1 is actually fully playable from beginning to end in Fujino's version without game-breaking bugs unless you're very unlucky. I know because I did a full replay when version 1.0 was released. Saikey's version fixes all minor bugs too and technically has better english translation, but also removes any and all direct references to SAO which is about the only real reason this game got popular in the first place really, and also any "Japanese mannerisms" that remained (Some people like me actually like those over a full localization either for being used to it or for weeb reasons, lol).

Part 2 just keeps retroactively breaking because Fujino has already gone beyond the limits of RPG Maker, which is funnily enough why he ended Part 1 in the first place to prevent, and so the game retroactively keeps breaking every time he updates it, and he just doesn't have the free time to go back and fix every new bug that pops up when he adds a new section to the game. Depending on if he bothers or not to actually at least go back and fix any that stops the game from being completed, his own version at the end of things may not even really be playable and then it would 100% only leave Saikey's as the only real alternative, but he may at least bother making the game completable again on his own one if he has any real respect left for the people in his paying sites getting the game there from their monthly subscriptions, he just can't at this point because he already puts all his free time into fixing the bugs that make the latest update he releases unplayable, he just doesn't have the time to go back right now XP
 
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"RPGM limit on available maps" the limit for maps is 999 visible and he only got 363maps ?.?
He could make a max size maps of 256x256 and put each room in with enough space between them for the other room not to show on screen with warp to connect them like this:
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There are a few stuff i keep off screen in the Map mod like that
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I wonder if there is something lost in translation...
In Chinese, he wrote that events from future updates may affect past updates if the same card is used. As it turned out in update 0.60. Players from the church in the old update are teleported to the hospital. All because the same church card is used several times. I think so.

" 現在更新的許多事件都是共用過去的MAP文件,導致更新有可能會影響過去的內容 "
(many of the events that are updated now share past MAP files, which may affect the content of the past.)

He wrote in Chinese that he had problems with the card number, not with the limit.

"現在更新的許多事件都是共用過去的MAP文件"
(many of the events that are updated now share past MAP files)
Sorry, Chinese translators always translate a bit strangely.
But for some reason he wrote in English about the 999 card limit, and that he had to use the same cards because of this.

"Recent updates cause a lot of bugs in past contents, Because the number of Maps is limited to 999 in RPGMV Engine, I started to make events share the same map file several versions ago. I have to fix them one by one, which takes me more time than before "

I don't understand RPGM at all, but I understand, thanks to your screenshots, that Fujino still has a lot of space to act until the card limit comes?
 
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The day 6/14 song with Kirito and Asuna talking at the bonfire is a fucking piano rendition of Dilemma LMAO. (The "No matter what I do" song)
 

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You do realize you're setting yourself up to be ntr'd right?
If an incestual heroine is ntr'ed, but there is no blood-related cuck to hear her moan, did she get NTR'ed at all?

Obviously, besides the fact that the qoute of mine you are using is as sarcastic as it gets, what I meant by that is that if I use my Suguha sense (totally a real thing) before playing an update, and I use my inner-incestual-eye to predict Suguha getting netorared once again—

—I can simply not play the game anymore, thus the Suguha in my mind can not possibly be NTRed.


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The day 6/14 song with Kirito and Asuna talking at the bonfire is a fucking piano rendition of Dilemma LMAO. (The "No matter what I do" song)
Fujino uses a lot of copyrighted songs in his game. Too bad they will all have to be removed in the official English release.

You do realize you're setting yourself up to be ntr'd right?
He was talking about Suguha. Since she already escaped her NTR scenario it is unlikely she will get into another way. I say his hopes are safer than most.
 
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Well yeah and there is a trick if the limit is reached by making map/card with max size to have a whole building with floors and a few rooms in one map/card instead of multiple. Unless Fujino really made 998 maps and don't include them all...
I think the way Fujino make the event progess is what may sabatoge the event since he use variable or the way the event process trigger but there are a few map in the game folder that doesn't appear in the MapInfos.json too may have screwed the warp with the 2nd Floor Brothel /Hospital bug a wrong map_idnumber .
Fujino really should use the copy/past of map/card that have a lot of event in it, just a few like this for exemple:
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I wanted to share my throughts about the game. I started by playing from Part 2 0.2 version after playing Part 1 and I am following every update since then.

What I like:

1. Sex Scenes:
The sex scenes in the game a very erotic. I played Scars of Summer and Boy Hero Ken which have sex scenes with vouyerism, silhoette sex(Oyama route), hidden sex, hidden sex close to the partner which are very erotic. When I first played these games I throught: "WOW! This is very erotic! I want more of this!". These games were the first or at least helped to popularize these fetishs with these type of sex scenes in a NTR game. This game is cleary inspired by those games. The plot, and world is carefully crafted to create those sort of sex scenes. Another thing that I like in the sex scene is they have a lot of dirty talk. This is also very erotic.
Not only you have these erotic sex scene but every sex scene is animated in 3d and the quality of the animations is also very good. The scenes are done using the game koikatsu? I am surprised by the amount and the quality of the animations in sex scenes.

2. Characters.
The best part of the game is the time it takes to develop the characters. We see the character talking with each other and what the think and they feel about each other. This create a emotional connection with the character, where we end up rooting for the characters and want to see what will happen to them. It creates a connections inside our brains and the characters have the feeling of being "alive".
In NTR genre is fundamental to create a emotional connection with the main couple Kirito and Asuna. Every update we have them talking with each other and share the thoughts with each other. In other NTR stories the main couple just talk in the beginning of the story then they separated and they only see each other at the ending. To my surprise this happens even to side characters.
I watched the show for 3 episodes I think. I did not care much for the characters in the show. I thought it would be a battle shounen but it was a harem slice of life. To my surprise, in this game I started to care for secondary characters like Suguha, Lisbeth, and even Kyoko and Sinon. I began playing for the porn, I continue to play for the characters.

In short, Best part of the game are high quality 3d animated sex scenes with sillhoutte and hidden sex and the cast of likable characters.

3. Plot.
Only the first part.
The best part about the plot is that it is a slow burn. There is a big prologue where we get to know the characters. Before the first sex scene there is several scenes to tease until the eventual climax of the story.
In the first part the story establishes Kirito and Asuna as generous and gullible characters and Inoda as an emotional manipulator character. The main plot is Inoda playing the victim and asking for Kirito and Asuna to become his friends because he is a loser. Kirito, Asuna and Inoda begin to play FOG online the new Virtual Reality game together. Inoda is given the power to become invisible inside the game. He uses his invisibility to molest and rape Asuna while she is unconcious and while she is kidnapped by monsters. Inoda eventually asks Asuna to pretend to be his girlfriend for him to become a "better person". Inoda begin to ask for small sexual acts from Asuna while hidden from Kirito, keeps increasing the demands, constantly testing the limits and pushing the boundaries of Asuna. When Inoda does something that Asuna does not like he says it was not his fault either the fault of something else or he that he only have the best intentions, apologizes and she always forgives him because she is generous and gullible. At the end of part 1 he gives Asuna an aphrodisiac and rapes her, she complains but likes having sex. Part 1 story ends with a clifhanger about what is going to happen to Inoda and Asuna relationship.

Summary: In part 1, it was fun that Inoda used deception to trick Kirito and Asuna that are gullible characters.

What I do not like:

1.Plot
Only the second part.
In part 2, Asuna get angry at Inoda for raping her at the end of part 1 and, again, Inoda say it was not his fault, apologizes and Asuna initially do not forgives him then he blackmail Asuna by threatening to give himself to the police. In the end, Asuna forgives him again and agrees to pretend to be his girlfriend again. This part I do not like because Inoda uses the same tactic every time and Asuna do not see a pattern. One think is being generous, another thing is being dumb. Of course, Asuna and Kirito are established to be generous and gullible characters in the world of this story but I throught Inoda would use deception to make Asuna agree to have consensual sex with him instead of using aphrodisiac and rape. I think this would be more fun.

After that Inoda begins to have sex with Asuna inside the game:
1. Inoda have sex with Asuna the first time in part 2 by giving her an aphrodisiac and again rapes her, again she complains and finally starts to like having sex and agrees to have sex once a week after Inoda arguing that Asuna needs of relieving stress and that the virtual world is not the real world.
2. Inoda and Asuna have sex again in a camp where Lisbeth helps to separate Kirito from Asuna.
3. Inoda have sex with Asuna in the kitchen. Inoda uses his invisibility power to have sex with Asuna right next to Kirito.
4. Asuna goes to a brothel to search for Kirito and see Suguha having sex with a customer with the image of Kirito. After that Inoda have sex with Asuna again.
5. In the last update Inoda have sex with Asuna inside the church while Kirito is talking with Asuna.
In all sex scenes Asuna initially protests but ends up liking having sex. Asuna gets angry at Inoda after the sex but Inoda apologizes and Asuna forgives him.

It appears that Inoda will keeps abusing Asuna generosity and gullibleness until the end of the story. Asuna complains but never learns and this is a little contrived and artificial and this breaks immersion a little.

Part 2 also introduces a lot of new characters Kyoko, Lisbeth, Sinon, Alice, Administrator and the Council.
Kyoko is Asuna mother and he see Kyoko cheating and Inoda uses that to blackmail Kyoko into having sex with him. Here we learn that Inoda is a sex god. Kyoko becomes infatueted with Inoda and start to help him.
Lisbeth also played SAO and is in love with Kirito and makes a alliance with Inoda to help separate Kirito from Asuna, also helping him.
Inoda basically gains 2 allies for free without effort. This also breaks immersion a little.
Of course, Inoda have huge penis and Kirito have a small penis and is a premature ejaculator. Inoda have more stamina than Kirito despite being fat and Kirito does not any sex knowledge and is lame at sex. This a little repetitive cliche.
Administrator and the Council also manipulates things inside the game to help Inoda. The goal is not exactly to help Inoda but make Kirito feel emotions so the Administrator can be summoned.
In summary, in part 2 Inoda is given free allies and he easily achieves everything. At part 1 Inoda is the underdog, at the part 2 he is overpowered.
Althrough Asuna complains a little, it is only a matter of time until she is fully corrupted.
Althrough it breaks immersion a little, you can argue that these staple contrivances that are in every NTR story are needed to create a NTR story and are a excuse to quickly get to sex scenes. The sex scenes in part 2 being very creative and erotic makes this is justified.
Althrough you could argue that talented writer could elegantly make the story flow without these artifical plot devices that break the immersion.

Summary: I thought there would more deception and the sex scenes would be more consensual with less coincidences and free help. I thought Inoda would continue to be a underdog.

Another thing I wanted to comment about are some mysteries in the plot that intrigues me:

1. Oberon and Asuna.
Kirito discovers old videos in SAO of Asuna when she was kidnaped by Oberon. Where Oberon is touching Asuna breasts. I am intrigued by how this will develop. Kirito will probably discover more vidoes where he discover that Asuna was corrupted by Oberon. This would explain why Asuna like having sex. This would be an example of the trope: "She was a slut all along" or "She was corrupted along time ago". This is a little repetitive cliche in NTR stories. It would be bad if it followed this trope.
Maybe somehow she is actually remains pure or it was only a illusion or a fake video but probably this is not what is going to happen.

2. The Council and Administrator
The council want to look at Kirito memories to help summon the Administrator to the world. They want to look at Kirito memories because his a chosen one. It appears there is an item hidden inside Kirito memories that they have to find to summon the Administrator.
The Administrator created a Memory Room that Kirito goes at the end of each day every time he sleeps. In the Memory Room you can see the events from Asuna and Inoda and the others characters with the Memory Room serving as a recollection room. The Memory Room serves to farm Kirito Anxiety which would help summon the Administrator.
In the last update Kirito began to see the events of the Memory Room inside the game. For a brief moment Kirito sees an illusion Inoda having sex with Asuna in the kitchen which is one of the previous events in the Memory Room.
When the Council says they want to look at Kirito memories they say they want Kirito memories from SAO period when he was playing. It is ambiguous whether the Council want his memories from the Memory Room or from the SAO period. I am curious about this part. If it is the memories from the SAO probably it have connection with Oberon and Asuna. My guess it is the very Administrator that is causing the images from the Memory Room to appear inside the game for Kirito to see.

3. Antennas
There are some antennas being built around Kirito house. They are being built by one member of the Council. I do not understand how this will play out. Probably Kirito will be given FOG online powers in real life and Kirito will be able to see images from the events from the Memory Room created by Administrator in real life, noting that some events of the Memory Room happens in real life. If Inoda were to be given his FOG Online invisibility power in real life, it would be very fun!

4.Suguha and Sinon
Suguha and Sinon in Part 1 are Hebishima fuck-buddies. In part 2 they stop having sex with Hebishima and being to work in a brothel in FOG online. They become badassess that use their work in the brothel to get contacts and blackmail powerful figures to gain power inside FOG Online. Sinon enter in The Council and Suguha uses an item that stops time to have sex Kirito while he is oblivious. This causes Kirito to have even lower performance in sex. In the last update. Suguha learns that Asuna is having sex with Inoda and begins to plot to separate Asuna from Kirito. In Part 1 she liked Kirito but did not actively tried to steal Kirito from Asuna. In the last update Sinon and Suguha make a alliance to help each other. Suguha mention that will reveal to Kirito that Asuna is having sex with Inoda at the right time to get the most benefits.
I am intrigued how this is going to happen. If Kirito will learn that Asuna and Inoda are having sex. Will Kirito stop liking Asuna and then Kirito will go to Suguha arms? We only see the affection of Asuna toward Kirito but not the affection of Kirito towards Asuna.

5. Perk List
In the plugin folder there is a list of Perks. Asuna is slowly unlocking all the perks. It appears the story is following closely what the perks say inside the plugin. The Perk List only show Asuna. We might see what will happen to Asuna but not Kirito and the side characters. We do not know if Perk List will continue to be followed closely maybe it could change during development.
There are 140 Perks. Around 30 Perks are unlocked. Assuming 2 perks are unlock per update it will take around 50 updates to unlock all perks. Assuming 3 Perks are unlock per update, around 30 updates will be necessary to unlock all perks. Assuming we keep the same 1 update per month that is 3 or 5 years of development. Unless, the rate of Perks unlocked per update increases.

6. Ending
Aparently there will be 2 endings based on low or high Prurience:
1. High prurience: Kirito discovers Asuna cheating with Inoda and starts to like it and becomes a willingly cuck. This one appears to be obvious how it will go. Inoda will seduce all the girls and Kirito will only watch them having sex.
2. Low prurience: This one intrigues me because in the last update Kirito begins to be show illusion images of Asuna and Inoda having sex. How much illusion images of Asuna and Inoda having sex will Kirito see? Will Kirito see images but remain faithful to Asuna? If for example, Suguha leads Kirito to see Asuna and Inoda having sex. Will Kirito see Asuna and Inoda having real sex that is not an illusory image and Kirito will not believe that they are having real sex and Kirito will remain oblivious until the end?
The illusory images idea are used in Boy Hero Ken. Boy Hero Ken is one of the games that appears to be a source of inspiration for this game. In Boy Hero Ken that illusory images are used only in the beginning of the story as practical pranks by one of the demons.
In that game there is a similar plot with 2 ending:
The demon king is being summoned to destroy the world. A demon takes controls of the mayor of the city and seduces the main heroines.
Ending 1: The heroines gets seduced by the possessed mayor and the Protagonist accepts it and the story ends with him just watching.
Ending 2: Is dark but somewhat fun. Protagonist goes back in time and tries to defeat the Demon King alone but fails and the world is destroyed.
Ending 3: This ending was never made because the author gave up on the project. There are hints that the protagonist would go back in time to stop the heroines from being corrupted and together with their help, the protagonist would summon and defeat the demon king.
The Administrator in SAO Online have the same role as the Demon King. I am intrigued to see if the Administrator will be summoned and defeated.
Suppose we have good ending, the Administrator will be summoned and defeated but the corruption of the various characters will remain. The story will end with Asuna continuing to have sex with Inoda while Kirito is oblivious.
 

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If an incestual heroine is ntr'ed, but there is no blood-related cuck to hear her moan, did she get NTR'ed at all?

Obviously, besides the fact that the qoute of mine you are using is as sarcastic as it gets, what I meant by that is that if I use my Suguha sense (totally a real thing) before playing an update, and I use my inner-incestual-eye to predict Suguha getting netorared once again—

—I can simply not play the game anymore, thus the Suguha in my mind can not possibly be NTRed.


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How did you get your Suguha-sense? I got mine after my cousin who lived near a nuclear power plant bit me
 

kinglionheart

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Well yeah and there is a trick if the limit is reached by making map/card with max size to have a whole building with floors and a few rooms in one map/card instead of multiple. Unless Fujino really made 998 maps and don't include them all...
I think the way Fujino make the event progess is what may sabatoge the event since he use variable or the way the event process trigger but there are a few map in the game folder that doesn't appear in the MapInfos.json too may have screwed the warp with the 2nd Floor Brothel /Hospital bug a wrong map_idnumber .
Fujino really should use the copy/past of map/card that have a lot of event in it, just a few like this for exemple:
View attachment 4209842
Wow Copy and Paste can solve the issue? It is so simple it is funny :LOL:.

Hopefully Fujino can learn from this and not have this issue next time.

I wanted to share my throughts about the game. I started by playing from Part 2 0.2 version after playing Part 1 and I am following every update since then.

What I like:

1. Sex Scenes:
The sex scenes in the game a very erotic. I played Scars of Summer and Boy Hero Ken which have sex scenes with vouyerism, silhoette sex(Oyama route), hidden sex, hidden sex close to the partner which are very erotic. When I first played these games I throught: "WOW! This is very erotic! I want more of this!". These games were the first or at least helped to popularize these fetishs with these type of sex scenes in a NTR game. This game is cleary inspired by those games. The plot, and world is carefully crafted to create those sort of sex scenes. Another thing that I like in the sex scene is they have a lot of dirty talk. This is also very erotic.
Not only you have these erotic sex scene but every sex scene is animated in 3d and the quality of the animations is also very good. The scenes are done using the game koikatsu? I am surprised by the amount and the quality of the animations in sex scenes.

2. Characters.
The best part of the game is the time it takes to develop the characters. We see the character talking with each other and what the think and they feel about each other. This create a emotional connection with the character, where we end up rooting for the characters and want to see what will happen to them. It creates a connections inside our brains and the characters have the feeling of being "alive".
In NTR genre is fundamental to create a emotional connection with the main couple Kirito and Asuna. Every update we have them talking with each other and share the thoughts with each other. In other NTR stories the main couple just talk in the beginning of the story then they separated and they only see each other at the ending. To my surprise this happens even to side characters.
I watched the show for 3 episodes I think. I did not care much for the characters in the show. I thought it would be a battle shounen but it was a harem slice of life. To my surprise, in this game I started to care for secondary characters like Suguha, Lisbeth, and even Kyoko and Sinon. I began playing for the porn, I continue to play for the characters.

In short, Best part of the game are high quality 3d animated sex scenes with sillhoutte and hidden sex and the cast of likable characters.

3. Plot.
Only the first part.
The best part about the plot is that it is a slow burn. There is a big prologue where we get to know the characters. Before the first sex scene there is several scenes to tease until the eventual climax of the story.
In the first part the story establishes Kirito and Asuna as generous and gullible characters and Inoda as an emotional manipulator character. The main plot is Inoda playing the victim and asking for Kirito and Asuna to become his friends because he is a loser. Kirito, Asuna and Inoda begin to play FOG online the new Virtual Reality game together. Inoda is given the power to become invisible inside the game. He uses his invisibility to molest and rape Asuna while she is unconcious and while she is kidnapped by monsters. Inoda eventually asks Asuna to pretend to be his girlfriend for him to become a "better person". Inoda begin to ask for small sexual acts from Asuna while hidden from Kirito, keeps increasing the demands, constantly testing the limits and pushing the boundaries of Asuna. When Inoda does something that Asuna does not like he says it was not his fault either the fault of something else or he that he only have the best intentions, apologizes and she always forgives him because she is generous and gullible. At the end of part 1 he gives Asuna an aphrodisiac and rapes her, she complains but likes having sex. Part 1 story ends with a clifhanger about what is going to happen to Inoda and Asuna relationship.

Summary: In part 1, it was fun that Inoda used deception to trick Kirito and Asuna that are gullible characters.

What I do not like:

1.Plot
Only the second part.
In part 2, Asuna get angry at Inoda for raping her at the end of part 1 and, again, Inoda say it was not his fault, apologizes and Asuna initially do not forgives him then he blackmail Asuna by threatening to give himself to the police. In the end, Asuna forgives him again and agrees to pretend to be his girlfriend again. This part I do not like because Inoda uses the same tactic every time and Asuna do not see a pattern. One think is being generous, another thing is being dumb. Of course, Asuna and Kirito are established to be generous and gullible characters in the world of this story but I throught Inoda would use deception to make Asuna agree to have consensual sex with him instead of using aphrodisiac and rape. I think this would be more fun.

After that Inoda begins to have sex with Asuna inside the game:
1. Inoda have sex with Asuna the first time in part 2 by giving her an aphrodisiac and again rapes her, again she complains and finally starts to like having sex and agrees to have sex once a week after Inoda arguing that Asuna needs of relieving stress and that the virtual world is not the real world.
2. Inoda and Asuna have sex again in a camp where Lisbeth helps to separate Kirito from Asuna.
3. Inoda have sex with Asuna in the kitchen. Inoda uses his invisibility power to have sex with Asuna right next to Kirito.
4. Asuna goes to a brothel to search for Kirito and see Suguha having sex with a customer with the image of Kirito. After that Inoda have sex with Asuna again.
5. In the last update Inoda have sex with Asuna inside the church while Kirito is talking with Asuna.
In all sex scenes Asuna initially protests but ends up liking having sex. Asuna gets angry at Inoda after the sex but Inoda apologizes and Asuna forgives him.

It appears that Inoda will keeps abusing Asuna generosity and gullibleness until the end of the story. Asuna complains but never learns and this is a little contrived and artificial and this breaks immersion a little.

Part 2 also introduces a lot of new characters Kyoko, Lisbeth, Sinon, Alice, Administrator and the Council.
Kyoko is Asuna mother and he see Kyoko cheating and Inoda uses that to blackmail Kyoko into having sex with him. Here we learn that Inoda is a sex god. Kyoko becomes infatueted with Inoda and start to help him.
Lisbeth also played SAO and is in love with Kirito and makes a alliance with Inoda to help separate Kirito from Asuna, also helping him.
Inoda basically gains 2 allies for free without effort. This also breaks immersion a little.
Of course, Inoda have huge penis and Kirito have a small penis and is a premature ejaculator. Inoda have more stamina than Kirito despite being fat and Kirito does not any sex knowledge and is lame at sex. This a little repetitive cliche.
Administrator and the Council also manipulates things inside the game to help Inoda. The goal is not exactly to help Inoda but make Kirito feel emotions so the Administrator can be summoned.
In summary, in part 2 Inoda is given free allies and he easily achieves everything. At part 1 Inoda is the underdog, at the part 2 he is overpowered.
Althrough Asuna complains a little, it is only a matter of time until she is fully corrupted.
Althrough it breaks immersion a little, you can argue that these staple contrivances that are in every NTR story are needed to create a NTR story and are a excuse to quickly get to sex scenes. The sex scenes in part 2 being very creative and erotic makes this is justified.
Althrough you could argue that talented writer could elegantly make the story flow without these artifical plot devices that break the immersion.

Summary: I thought there would more deception and the sex scenes would be more consensual with less coincidences and free help. I thought Inoda would continue to be a underdog.

Another thing I wanted to comment about are some mysteries in the plot that intrigues me:

1. Oberon and Asuna.
Kirito discovers old videos in SAO of Asuna when she was kidnaped by Oberon. Where Oberon is touching Asuna breasts. I am intrigued by how this will develop. Kirito will probably discover more vidoes where he discover that Asuna was corrupted by Oberon. This would explain why Asuna like having sex. This would be an example of the trope: "She was a slut all along" or "She was corrupted along time ago". This is a little repetitive cliche in NTR stories. It would be bad if it followed this trope.
Maybe somehow she is actually remains pure or it was only a illusion or a fake video but probably this is not what is going to happen.

2. The Council and Administrator
The council want to look at Kirito memories to help summon the Administrator to the world. They want to look at Kirito memories because his a chosen one. It appears there is an item hidden inside Kirito memories that they have to find to summon the Administrator.
The Administrator created a Memory Room that Kirito goes at the end of each day every time he sleeps. In the Memory Room you can see the events from Asuna and Inoda and the others characters with the Memory Room serving as a recollection room. The Memory Room serves to farm Kirito Anxiety which would help summon the Administrator.
In the last update Kirito began to see the events of the Memory Room inside the game. For a brief moment Kirito sees an illusion Inoda having sex with Asuna in the kitchen which is one of the previous events in the Memory Room.
When the Council says they want to look at Kirito memories they say they want Kirito memories from SAO period when he was playing. It is ambiguous whether the Council want his memories from the Memory Room or from the SAO period. I am curious about this part. If it is the memories from the SAO probably it have connection with Oberon and Asuna. My guess it is the very Administrator that is causing the images from the Memory Room to appear inside the game for Kirito to see.

3. Antennas
There are some antennas being built around Kirito house. They are being built by one member of the Council. I do not understand how this will play out. Probably Kirito will be given FOG online powers in real life and Kirito will be able to see images from the events from the Memory Room created by Administrator in real life, noting that some events of the Memory Room happens in real life. If Inoda were to be given his FOG Online invisibility power in real life, it would be very fun!

4.Suguha and Sinon
Suguha and Sinon in Part 1 are Hebishima fuck-buddies. In part 2 they stop having sex with Hebishima and being to work in a brothel in FOG online. They become badassess that use their work in the brothel to get contacts and blackmail powerful figures to gain power inside FOG Online. Sinon enter in The Council and Suguha uses an item that stops time to have sex Kirito while he is oblivious. This causes Kirito to have even lower performance in sex. In the last update. Suguha learns that Asuna is having sex with Inoda and begins to plot to separate Asuna from Kirito. In Part 1 she liked Kirito but did not actively tried to steal Kirito from Asuna. In the last update Sinon and Suguha make a alliance to help each other. Suguha mention that will reveal to Kirito that Asuna is having sex with Inoda at the right time to get the most benefits.
I am intrigued how this is going to happen. If Kirito will learn that Asuna and Inoda are having sex. Will Kirito stop liking Asuna and then Kirito will go to Suguha arms? We only see the affection of Asuna toward Kirito but not the affection of Kirito towards Asuna.

5. Perk List
In the plugin folder there is a list of Perks. Asuna is slowly unlocking all the perks. It appears the story is following closely what the perks say inside the plugin. The Perk List only show Asuna. We might see what will happen to Asuna but not Kirito and the side characters. We do not know if Perk List will continue to be followed closely maybe it could change during development.
There are 140 Perks. Around 30 Perks are unlocked. Assuming 2 perks are unlock per update it will take around 50 updates to unlock all perks. Assuming 3 Perks are unlock per update, around 30 updates will be necessary to unlock all perks. Assuming we keep the same 1 update per month that is 3 or 5 years of development. Unless, the rate of Perks unlocked per update increases.

6. Ending
Aparently there will be 2 endings based on low or high Prurience:
1. High prurience: Kirito discovers Asuna cheating with Inoda and starts to like it and becomes a willingly cuck. This one appears to be obvious how it will go. Inoda will seduce all the girls and Kirito will only watch them having sex.
2. Low prurience: This one intrigues me because in the last update Kirito begins to be show illusion images of Asuna and Inoda having sex. How much illusion images of Asuna and Inoda having sex will Kirito see? Will Kirito see images but remain faithful to Asuna? If for example, Suguha leads Kirito to see Asuna and Inoda having sex. Will Kirito see Asuna and Inoda having real sex that is not an illusory image and Kirito will not believe that they are having real sex and Kirito will remain oblivious until the end?
The illusory images idea are used in Boy Hero Ken. Boy Hero Ken is one of the games that appears to be a source of inspiration for this game. In Boy Hero Ken that illusory images are used only in the beginning of the story as practical pranks by one of the demons.
In that game there is a similar plot with 2 ending:
The demon king is being summoned to destroy the world. A demon takes controls of the mayor of the city and seduces the main heroines.
Ending 1: The heroines gets seduced by the possessed mayor and the Protagonist accepts it and the story ends with him just watching.
Ending 2: Is dark but somewhat fun. Protagonist goes back in time and tries to defeat the Demon King alone but fails and the world is destroyed.
Ending 3: This ending was never made because the author gave up on the project. There are hints that the protagonist would go back in time to stop the heroines from being corrupted and together with their help, the protagonist would summon and defeat the demon king.
The Administrator in SAO Online have the same role as the Demon King. I am intrigued to see if the Administrator will be summoned and defeated.
Suppose we have good ending, the Administrator will be summoned and defeated but the corruption of the various characters will remain. The story will end with Asuna continuing to have sex with Inoda while Kirito is oblivious.
You should put this as a review.
 

mos555

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Well yeah and there is a trick if the limit is reached by making map/card with max size to have a whole building with floors and a few rooms in one map/card instead of multiple. Unless Fujino really made 998 maps and don't include them all...
I think the way Fujino make the event progess is what may sabatoge the event since he use variable or the way the event process trigger but there are a few map in the game folder that doesn't appear in the MapInfos.json too may have screwed the warp with the 2nd Floor Brothel /Hospital bug a wrong map_idnumber .
Fujino really should use the copy/past of map/card that have a lot of event in it, just a few like this for exemple:
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I wonder if Fujino knows about this or not... Although he wrote in advance that there would be problems with old updates, he most likely knows what he is doing. Perhaps he decided not to pay attention to the fact that each new update will produce errors in old updates. Either it's a matter of banal laziness, or lack of time. But objectively, the game is impassable now if you play it first. And as a result, how long will it take him to fix bugs, and he still has to do what he doesn't want to do now.

I can assume that at some point he will write to subscribers that he will skip a month to correct mistakes.
 
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