first part was ok. but there was a lot of missed opportunity for virtual sex. instead of going for virtual rape it would have been better if the characters had virtual sex. during the time were the girl was wiling to play girlfriend to the sly guy but not have sex. I mean virtual sex is not real sex "right????". and it would have played more nicely into a corruption angle (her wondering about real dick after tasting the virtual one). besides that, the side stories where slightly annoying and lacking in scenes.
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you clearly dont seem to know or understand the process of corruption. no way a sheltered, "pure" and "high society raised" girl like asuna would have sex with inoda that quickly and without any believable reasons. i think this isnt the game for you if you are here just for a quick: meet n f*ck game.
the side stories are there so the players get some action during the corruption process. and if he had made the scenes any longer, it would had certainly prolonged the progress of the main story
i believe p1 was especially good and well done. i like slow burn corruption. it makes the results just more juicy when they finally fall...
if she is already toying with the guys "real" cock (as shown in the infirmary scene) I do not see why she would not have virtual sex. there are like 5 scenes where she constantly says no sex while playing with his dick. and that is also considering that mutual masturbation does happen as a peeping event in the virtual world. you can clearly add the scenes I mentioned during that time period where a logical argument of (virtual sex is not real sex) would lead to actual sex instead of the contrived notion of thunder storm+ kirito's uncharged phone+ him sleeping.
hell you can have things like secondary accounts. One that the MC knows about and another one where the girl just stands there and he does not recognize her. all I am saying is that the virtual world was not used to it's full potential considering that the MC is established as a hardcore gamer.
Please do not engage in a straw-man by saying I do not understand the process of corruption. the truth is that you do not even know the things I know or not know about.
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It is part of SAO lore that the characters treat the VR world same as the real world. She would not want to do stuff in VR that she would not do in real life. Like blowjobs and sex, if not in real world then not in VR either.
It is part of the corruption that eventually she will change to see virtual sex is okay because it is not the same as real sex. Then finally she will be okay with real sex since virtual sex is good.
Right that is what I mean. even if the characters think the virtual is "real" there is an argument to be made against it. But what ends up happening in part one is that real sex happens before the virtual one. witch I think is a shame. all instances os sex in the virtual world are rape, and only one mutual masturbation one. there may have been a hint of virtual sex happening when the MC Disconnects before the other 2 but it is not shown.
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i really cant comprehend why you are thinking it would a logical argument for someone like asuna that virtual sex would be ok, because its just virtual. she is always doing all those things with inoda with the mindset that she is just helping him with becoming a better person or so he can move on from her.
doing handjobs is to relieve his hard ones, while the masturbation was accepted by her with the reasoning: "he wants to repay" her. there is no logical step up to having sex, even if its only virtual.
i dont know if you already played p2, but at the end of the current update, her believes and mind gets changed to: "its only virtual, not the real life" so its highly possible that asuna didnt believe that virtual is just virtual. at least not intimate stuff.
sorry for my phrasing. you are right i dont know what you know or dont know, but I just couldnt understand your way of reasoning...
edit: nvm, the 2 posts above are making my reply useless lol
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i believe that its something like opening the pandora box. inoda got asuna into doing it in real life, but her mind is clearly still attached to kirito.
even tho she didnt want to at first, she still experienced the pleasures of doing it with inoda and will never ever forget those pleasures. but having the "pure and high" mindset she is having, after realizing what she has done, she would clearly try to cut inoda out of their lifes. resulting into a "soft reset". thus inoda had to find reasons to creep back into her life.
its like inoda had to make this "mistake", showing that it was clearly too early for them to engage into sex in real life
so learning by his mistakes and "changing his approaches", he is now corrupting her mind by changing her mindset, "that virtual is not the real life but just virtual. after achieving this he will be able to change her mind and body more and more.
at least thats what i believe this is and that would make the most sense character manipulationwise
my only argument is that this should have happened sooner, why would you go to that mental process when you already had real sex? you see this argument was probably introduced because she intended to end the relationship at the end of part 1 and I am assuming she indeed did that by the time part 2 begins. I do not mind spoilers but I am going to have to guess Inoda's plan to get to her in part 2 is through the virtual world before coming back to the real one.
In the end it does not matter that much, the story is already set in stone. and this is just me stating a personal preference. the story is serviceable and the pacing is good enough. I am exited for part's 2 since it seems to have some sort of recurrent events and secondary objectives.
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As for the real world sex happening before virtual sex, there is a real world and game world reason. The real world reason was Fujino decided to split the game into parts and my guess is he wanted to end the game with a bang (literally). The game world reason was Kirito suddenly asked Asuna to leave with him soon so Asuna decided to end things with Inoda. Then Inoda was forced to keep Asuna by raping her into submission. If this was another NTR title then Asuna would have fallen during Lustful Night. But Fujino made her resist and now in Part 2 we are getting back where they were before.
So you expect Asuna after being raped in Real Life to want to have Virtual sex with Inoda soon after? It took her until now in Part 2 to finally forgive him and you think she would want to a physical relationship with him in VR because what, she is horny?
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clearly because asuna believes that you only should have sex with the person you love. even if its virtual or the real world. and the sex at p1 only happened to due inodas forcing. its not that she wanted it to happen.
after sobering up she was def disgusted about everything that happened and builds up distance.
its like you are having a party, get drunked, horny and find a girl to get laid. next morning both of you remember that you are already in relationship and quickly try to forget everything and keep distance from each other.
same effect. stuff can happen in the heat of the moment but this doesnt mean, that you are suddenly ok to do it regularly
for your first . if the storm night was rape it was poorly portrayed since that was not the impression I got. since Inoda had been using the sad puppy act the impression I got is that he probably begged until he got away with it as shown by the images. first a hand job then he progressively moved towards sex. remember she lied to kirito when he made the phone call. it was not rape it was "yoga". again this also adds another point to the list of contrived reasons for that sex scene.
Inoda picks the key for no reason at all.
a storm happens
kirito's phone is not charged
he goes to sleep.
As for your second question yes I do believe it. remember porn logic is not real logic. if she was raped I doubt she would even feel comfortable to have sex with anyone she barely knew (like Inoda). it is a good thing inoda is portrayed as non threatening since SAO's rapist seem to be the forceful kind. but again if we use anime logic for this porn game the story would not even happen in the first place.
Uou can follow the same logical route as this also happens in real life:
- People exchange naughty content but never had real sex. (emotional cheating)
- they have real sex, they sober up and make some distance.
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for the 1st thing. you should play p2. the prologue gives a better understanding. the 1st part ending baited the player a bit.
inoda picked the key because he knew where the key is, kirito would have to go somewhere else. doesnt matter where, but elsewhere. no one would have htought kirito would go through the window lol.
the storm was announched, at least inoda knew a storm would come via forecast or something
kiritos phone being out of battery is something that could happen, but thats not something inoda could have any influence over, it just happened.
as i said, the sex scenes and the end of p1 make a bit more sense playing the start of p2.
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again. the difference here is the mindset asuna is having. she clearly doesnt want to have sexual intercourse as she believes its cheating. giving blowjobs and etc is also already considered cheating but she was clearly in distress for those, reasoning with herself:
- its just for a short time
- its to pay back debts
- she still clearly loves kirito and not inoda
yes. we can argue about this a lot, but p1 ending clearly had some "behind the scenes" things happening you wouldnt know about. there is a reason why the asuna and inoda scenes are kinda blurred and eveything. letting the player have some imagination for was happening in the p1 finale until p2 happens
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him going through the window is another contrivance just to have him be part of the scene.
- Inoda picks the key for no reason at all.
- kirito goes trough the window.
- a storm happens.
- kirito's phone is not charged.
- he goes to sleep.
good game overall.
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if you are a mastermind trying to setup for success would you let god decide for your future?
i would also def hide kiritos key. if you already know, why let it there?
krito goes through the window so he would be in the scene is really funny and makes sense. if not, inoda had planned for him to stay whereever. at least not in his own room.
the date was planned on the date of the storm. it doesnt just happen.
kiritos phone being empty is plot convenience yes, but it still could happen randomly to anyone. even if kiritos phone still had energy, asuna promised inoda a "lovers date". and asuna being asuma, she wouldnt break this promise, even if kirito had called for whatever reason
also him going to sleep... i mean.. its a stormy night and you have nothing to do. iirc all this shit happened at 10pm-2am. so why not?
surely, you can also remove some things but this is all considered build up. its a nice touch.
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i should unwatch this thread. im clearly getting way too invested into this while Fujino Sensei is having his break lol
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Well, he said he would work on the game a little this month, but don't put too many expectations on it. I've seen some people thinking that on April we will have a bigger update with 2 months of work, I'm 99% sure that won't be the case. The April's update will most likely still be an update of 1 month of work. In this month of March, if Fujino did anything on the game, it probably was just one thing or two, but nothing too big.