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4-kun

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Yea, I forgot Inoda tends to leave out details or lie to Liz about what he does with Asuna whenever he reports to her. But even then, I'm pretty sure she knows that they've at least done it once in the game, cause she's been shown to be pretty perceptive of what they do/done. I'm sure she's connecting the dots whenever Kirito says he hasn't done anything or hungout with Asuna recently, but Asuna's reactions when asked about her sex life express she has done some things. She's smart enough to know what's really going on between her and Inoda.
You are forgetting the INT debuff aura from Inoda, he will let her know as soon as it serves his purpose or dick. :ROFLMAO:
 

SixDates

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But the way Fujino writes 'Mysetery NTR' is more secretive for the MC/Protagonist, never for others in the story.
This reminded me of a point I forgot to make, one thing I don't like about Fujino's games is how common is the fact that every woman there is a huge slut.

Back during the Sakura/scathatch/Nero's games, not only the main heroine is a cum addicted degenerate, but every other female on a 100km radius from there are as well.

This wasn't so much an issue for me during part 1, despite the fact that there were several NPCs getting cucked live in front of us the players, because we were in a huge city with several thousands of women that weren't explicitly cheating sows.

I feel like the main heroine's sluttiness should be more unique to her and their relationship with the bull of the game, since it's not really all that fun when everyone elae is also cheating whore.


Having said all that, this is not such a big deal for me, and judging by Fujino's different works I can see that he really enjoys worlds where everyone is equally a pervent addicted to big cheating cocks.
 

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You are forgetting the INT debuff aura from Inoda, he will let her know as soon as it serves his purpose or dick. :ROFLMAO:
Remind me again, when does this INT debuff take place? I honestly don't remember. I forget if it's only when it's convenient to Inoda (sexual or not), or only when something sexual is taking place or is about to.
 

kinglionheart

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Remind me again, when does this INT debuff take place? I honestly don't remember. I forget if it's only when it's convenient to Inoda (sexual or not), or only when something sexual is taking place or is about to.
The quick answer is whenever it is convenient to have someone carry the idiot ball. Whenever you think "A actual person would not do that!". At least here we have a convenient scapegoat, just say "Administrator did it!".
 
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Remind me again, when does this INT debuff take place? I honestly don't remember. I forget if it's only when it's convenient to Inoda (sexual or not), or only when something sexual is taking place or is about to.
it's more like a Meme we made that everyone around Inoda's presence will act stupid or be stupid and can't even think right
 

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The quick answer is whenever it is convenient to have someone carry the idiot ball. Whenever you think "A actual person would not do that!". At least here we have a convenient scapegoat, just say "Administrator did it!".
lmao Also that " ADMINISTRATOR" it's even more annoying than Inoda's INT aura xD
 

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Remind me again, when does this INT debuff take place? I honestly don't remember. I forget if it's only when it's convenient to Inoda (sexual or not), or only when something sexual is taking place or is about to.
It's as simple as looking in his ugly face every person automaticaly thinks 'there is no way', this is his true hidden superpower granted by the administrator :LOL:
 

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Also the other heroines have their own different progression that is every different from Asuna's. So I don't know what kind of uniqueness you want from Asuna
When I was talking about uniqueness, I wasn’t referring to the circumstances and development of Asuna as a NTR heroine. In that sense, throughout all the NTR games and mangas I have read, I could say that while her circumstances are not particularly original, the ups and downs of her corruption are not common in the least.

What I meant by uniqueness is about Asuna's standing amongst her peers in her universe.

This is something that I find troubling in many settings, not just random porn parodies. In a series like My Hero Academia, to me Izuku Midoriya is not particularly more heroic than most of his peers since he is in a universe filled with heroic people who would take a bullet to the chest to save a random civilian.
In another series, Fate Stay night for example, Shirou's ideals of justice and desire to save others is much more unique since he is not in an universe filled with people with the desire to be allies of justice.

So to me, Asuna being a huge slut is not particularly that impressive despite her extensive corruption because every other female character in her world appears to be also a huge pervert. The only difference is that they just haven't seen a big enough dick yet.

To quote a certain Pixar movie, "When everyone is a huge slut, not one is."
 
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The quick answer is whenever it is convenient to have someone carry the idiot ball. Whenever you think "A actual person would not do that!". At least here we have a convenient scapegoat, just say "Administrator did it!".
it's more like a Meme we made that everyone around Inoda's presence will act stupid or be stupid and can't even think right
It's as simple as looking in his ugly face every person automaticaly thinks 'there is no way', this is his true hidden superpower granted by the administrator :LOL:
I'm getting some mixed answers... What is one to think...? Well even then, seems like with Liz it's not as effective (as of now) probs due to her hatred for Inoda.
 

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I'm getting some mixed answers... What is one to think...? Well even then, seems like with Liz it's not as effective (as of now) probs due to her hatred for Inoda.
Actually, we all said the same thing. The point is, characters are made dumb if it serves Inoda’s interests.
 
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When I was talking about uniqueness, I wasn’t referring to the circumstances and development of Asuna as a NTR heroine. In that sense, throughout all the NTR games and mangas I have read, I could say that while her circumstances are not particularly original, the ups and downs of her corruption are not common in the least.

What I meant by uniqueness is about Asuna's standing amongst her peers in her universe.

To quote a certain Pixar movie, "When everyone is a huge slut, not one is."
Yea, I guess in the context of this universe, Asuna isn't that unique to some of the other women in it. IMO, the most unique people are Sinon and Suguha cause they were originally mostly ok sleeping with Hebishima. But now, both of them are starting to retaliate/separate themselves from him. They got dicked by someone who's, I'm guessing, really good at sex, has a huge dick, and has stamina to last awhile.

Asuna, Liz, and Kyoko are pretty much going through the same thing with Inoda, but they probs can't/don't retaliate cause he has his ability to make others turn off their critical thinking skills when they're around him.
 
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When I was talking about uniqueness, I wasn’t referring to the circumstances and development of Asuna as a NTR heroine. In that sense, throughout all the NTR games and mangas I have read, I could say that while her circumstances are not particularly original, the ups and downs of her corruption are not common in the least.

What I meant by uniqueness is about Asuna's standing amongst her peers in her universe.

This is something that I find troubling in many settings, not just random porn parodies. In a series like My Hero Academia, to me Izuku Midoriya is not particularly more heroic than most of his peers since he is in a universe filled with heroic people who would take a bullet to the chest to save a random civilian.
In another series, Fate Stay night for example, Shirou's ideals of justice and desire to save others is much more unique since he is not in an universe filled with people with the desire to be allies of justice.

So to me, Asuna being a huge slut is not particularly that impressive despite her extensive corruption because every other female character in her world appears to be also a huge pervert. The only difference is that they just haven't seen a big enough dick yet.

To quote a certain Pixar movie, "When everyone is a huge slut, not one is."
I don't what you mean by "standing". Maybe you mean their "way of thinking" that makes them act differently from other characters. Izuku might not be more heroic than his classmates but being a quarkless gaining a quark and training to be a hero does make him almost unique in the world.

I guess what you want in this game would be only Asuna becoming a cheater. That would make her different from all the other woman and make Inoda seem more impressive because he is doing something no one else can do. Of course that would mean all the other side characters like Liz and Suguha only getting involved in loving relationships which would make divide the community at the very least.
 

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I don't what you mean by "standing". Maybe you mean their "way of thinking" that makes them act differently from other characters.
By standing I was referring to Asuna's position and status in her own universe, although not in a literal way but instead how we personally as an audience/player base judge her character.
We, human beings, judge things by comparing them to others.

Someone is rich, because there are poorer people.
Someone is tall, because there are those who are shorter than them.
Someone is a fat pig like Inoda, because not everyone is a miserable piece of trash like him.
Someone has a small penis like Kirito, because not everyone has a peanut size dick.

The fact that Asuna is a cheater and slut that thinks with her vagina gets cheapen the more women in her universe are all equally cheater and sluts.

Izuku might not be more heroic than his classmates but being a quarkless gaining a quark and training to be a hero does make almost unique in the world.
Funny enough, not even there Izuku is unique because All Might was also quirkless before getting All for One.


I guess what you want in this game would be only Asuna becoming a cheater. That would make her different from all the other woman and make Inoda seem more impressive because he is doing something no one else can do.
Think about this another way, breast sizes.
If you see any erotic anime or hentai game with various heroines, almost all of them make it so the some of the heroines have big breasts or some of the others have small breasts. This is because it would be boring if everyone was the same. (Also because they manage to market themselves to a broader market by appealing to more interests with varying heroines, but that's a whole other point.)

Another example of the importance of a contrast is dick size.
If everyone in a fictional world has a big dick, equal in size to the rest of the men in the world, then there is no feeling of superiority to come from the the random heroine talking about how the audience self-insert is large or thick.

. Of course that would mean all the other side characters like Liz and Suguha only getting involved in loving relationships which would make divide the community at the very least.
You know, funny thing you mentioned this, because there was no real need for Suguha to get raped and corrupted for her to get netorared. If instead of Hebishima being a piece of trash NTR cliche was some random character that fell for Suguha and managed to romance her out of her incestous obsession, we could still have gotten ntr content from her.
Just give the hypothetical character a huge dick and hentai God levels of stamina while having a kink for filming himself with his beloved girlfriend.

After all, it's not like liking sex makes you a slut. It's still possible to get amazing sex scenes and debauched scenarios between a loving couple, Kirito getting somewhat netorared in the process could have been a bonus.
 

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I don't what you mean by "standing". Maybe you mean their "way of thinking" that makes them act differently from other characters. Izuku might not be more heroic than his classmates but being a quarkless gaining a quark and training to be a hero does make him almost unique in the world.

I guess what you want in this game would be only Asuna becoming a cheater. That would make her different from all the other woman and make Inoda seem more impressive because he is doing something no one else can do. Of course that would mean all the other side characters like Liz and Suguha only getting involved in loving relationships which would make divide the community at the very least.
Yeah. it's kinda a sub-genre of ntr where the whole town, or at the very least all npcs with a face are perverts and sex gods and all women are sluts. But that's the kind of games Fujino makes.
 

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By standing I was referring to Asuna's position and status in her own universe, although not in a literal way but instead how we personally as an audience/player base judge her character.
We, human beings, judge things by comparing them to others.

Someone is rich, because there are poorer people.
Someone is tall, because there are those who are shorter than them.
Someone is a fat pig like Inoda, because not everyone is a miserable piece of trash like him.
Someone has a small penis like Kirito, because not everyone has a peanut size dick.

The fact that Asuna is a cheater and slut that thinks with her vagina gets cheapen the more women in her universe are all equally cheater and sluts.
Asuna already has a lot of uniqueness but I see you are only focusing on the cheating aspect of her standing as you call it as the uniqueness standard. I personally think the circumstances of the woman cheating is a lot of important and interesting than whether the woman is the only cheater in her world. But if you think having only one cheater is a extra spice then that is fine.

Funny enough, not even there Izuku is unique because All Might was also quirkless before getting All for One.
Yea I know. That is why I said "almost unique". In fact besides All Might, one of his classmate is in the same situation.

Yeah. it's kinda a sub-genre of ntr where the whole town, or at the very least all npcs with a face are perverts and sex gods and all women are sluts. But that's the kind of games Fujino makes.
That is pretty much EVERY cheating/NTR game out there. I can't think a single example of that kind of game where a woman with model doesn't succumb to the dick! Every man with a model who is not already dating the woman can pleasure a woman even if he is a child, out of shape, or close to death!
 

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You know, funny thing you mentioned this, because there was no real need for Suguha to get raped and corrupted for her to get netorared. If instead of Hebishima being a piece of trash NTR cliche was some random character that fell for Suguha and managed to romance her out of her incestous obsession, we could still have gotten ntr content from her.
Just give the hypothetical character a huge dick and hentai God levels of stamina while having a kink for filming himself with his beloved girlfriend.

After all, it's not like liking sex makes you a slut. It's still possible to get amazing sex scenes and debauched scenarios between a loving couple, Kirito getting somewhat netorared in the process could have been a bonus.
You honestly made a really fantastic point with this. It probably would have been a more effective setup to be in her yandere phase in part 1 and then to start getting romanced by a good guy in part 2.

First, Kirito could have been disturbed by his sister coming on to him and shut her down. Then later when Asuna was eventually completely corrupted by Inoda and he was all alone, Kirito could have tried to go back to his sister for some comfort only to discover that she doesn't care about him anymore and only wants to get dicked by her boyfriend.

IMO NTR is just more effective if the MC ends up alone, and this could have been a good way to pile on the pain from Asuna while also giving Suguha an effective and unique NTR arc.
 

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why the game said go to bed and login to sao but no point on bed after kirito go solo and suguha tell argil to leave work early
 

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You honestly made a really fantastic point with this. It probably would have been a more effective setup to be in her yandere phase in part 1 and then to start getting romanced by a good guy in part 2.

First, Kirito could have been disturbed by his sister coming on to him and shut her down. Then later when Asuna was eventually completely corrupted by Inoda and he was all alone, Kirito could have tried to go back to his sister for some comfort only to discover that she doesn't care about him anymore and only wants to get dicked by her boyfriend.

IMO NTR is just more effective if the MC ends up alone, and this could have been a good way to pile on the pain from Asuna while also giving Suguha an effective and unique NTR arc.
The thing you and Dates are forgetting is that this wouldn't work on Suguha at all because you're overly focusing on making the MC suffer rather than the "girls being stolen" aspect that is supposed to BE what NTR is about, but that most people nowadays seem to have forgotten XD

The key point there like in Canon SAO is that Suguha getting together with someone else would actually NOT be NTR...she wasn't in a relationship with Kirito, he only saw her as a a sister and had no attraction to him, etc. Fujino actually had to completely rewrite her relationship with Kirito (Making her an angry tsundere at the beginning of Part 1 which totally wasn't like her at all) and then completely get rid of her character arc despite the point in the timeline the game took place (Which is why we had such a massive plot-hole about how the Fairy Dance Arc happened until recently where he decided to completely have made as if it never happened through a plot-convenient excuse). Essentially, Suguha getting together with another man or being fucked by someone else wouldn't really be NTR by the real terms of the genre, but Fujino rewrote her setting and character as much as he could so it actually FELT as NTR-y as possible.

Getting blackmailed and fucked by Hebishima "had" to happen for her to technically feel like she was being not-NTR-ed because back then Fujino was indeed writing her as part of the "making sure the MC suffers is the most important thing"-setting.

However, he actually gave her an unexpected and more realistic twist in Part 2 by having her completely break the NTR cliches and free herself, which is something I personally loved not only because she's my favorite character from SAO alongside Kirito but because of how refreshing and unique this was to see in a NTR game. And none of this would have ever happened at all if Fujino had written her in a "loving relationship"...which he period never writes anyway, all his girls are usually turbo-sluts from the beginning (Which there has been some complaining the past few messages I see), this game is hilariously the first time he writes the main ones taking so long to figure it out XD
 
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