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gaka200

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Considering that she killed Inoda in-game to prevent VR sex, it wouldn't make much sense to have an IRL sex in the next update. But Fujino can easily write another made-up situation, like turning Kirito into asshole-mode again because it's Monday, to make it happen. :LOL:
That's pretty much why it feels too soon. If Inoda was able to have VR-Sex instead of getting killed, it would have felt like we're on the path to the IRL corruption, but now it's just a little ambiguous as to how that's gonna be done exactly now.
 

kinglionheart

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That's pretty much why it feels too soon. If Inoda was able to have VR-Sex instead of getting killed, it would have felt like we're on the path to the IRL corruption, but now it's just a little ambiguous as to how that's gonna be done exactly now.
Well there is no guarantee IRL sex will happen soon just because we saw a new Title for it. Remember how long Part 2 had the camp BJ title until we saw something similar to that happen in-game. Some kind of favor for killing Inoda in FOG is most likely. How the Kyouko treating Asuna differently now thanks to Inoda effect is a mystery to me.
 
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ron34

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There is also the fact that the next update is obligated to have at least one big scene due to the fact that Fujino didn't release anything the past month, he is probably going to feel the pressure of wanting to please his supporters.
Judging by the comments on both ci-en and Patreon, I hope so. I really hated it when Fujino made the last mini game back in December? Hopefully it has cemented the notion that everyone wants him to focus on SAO.

This has been talked a lot about since the last update came out, and I get it makes sense as a form of progression for the Asuna and Inoda relationship, but I just can´t see how it would naturally occur in-universe. From Asuna´s perspective her mother hates Inoda for being a weird little piglet, so how would Kyouko suddenly break the news that she wants to be nicer to her thanks to Inoda?

"Asuna, honey, you know that overweight creep your loser boyfriend and you like to hang out with, the one I hated?

Yeah, I actually had a good talk to him the other night after he just finished drugging and raping you, not that I know of that of course, and just as he was re-arranging my guts with the only thing he has fatter than his belly he convinced me to start treating you better.

I know I haven´t been the best of mothers, even if I want nothing but the best for you and your future as a cumdump for the ugliest combinations of genes Japan has ever seen, so from now on I will do my best to make you happy.
I promise, and I never break my promises because that´s my slutty way of life, believe it!"


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Shitpost aside, I know that the plot will progress like that with Asuna finding out that Inoda won over Kyouko and making her calm down, but I am not exactly sure how it will happen.
It may occur in a manner similar to the choker scene. Fujino can make it even riskier, Asuna could encounter Inoda and her mom in their home, feeling under pressure, Kyouko could use the excuse that Inoda was there to help Asuna. It would be eve better if it led Inoda and Kyouko be on good terms in the presence of Asuna.
 

SixDates

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Judging by the comments on both ci-en and Patreon, I hope so. I really hated it when Fujino made the last mini game back in December? Hopefully it has cemented the notion that everyone wants him to focus on SAO.
You know, this is something that I don´t really get from the people who complain about the extra games.
Do you think that Fujino shouldn´t have some free time for his hobbies?

For example, let´s say that besides living a life, making SAO content, and working like the average Japanese slave/salaryman, Fujino spent his free time playing League of Legends.

Yes, he would be scum because he would be a league player in that scenario, but it´s not like one can prohibit having a hobby for a man with some free time.

Fujino´s hobby, as it seems to be, is making netorare erotic games and sharing them online, so when he has free time and isn´t working on SAO, he makes some unrelated porn. It´s not like the Christmas Special must have taken him a lot of time to make either, he already had all the assets from his previous games, and the length of the game was like 20-25 minutes tops.

Anyway, what I will say is that his biggest mistake was ever announcing the last bonus mini-game to the Ciel/Patreon masses without having finished it first.
 

kinglionheart

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You know, this is something that I don´t really get from the people who complain about the extra games.
Do you think that Fujino shouldn´t have some free time for his hobbies?

For example, let´s say that besides living a life, making SAO content, and working like the average Japanese slave/salaryman, Fujino spent his free time playing League of Legends.

Yes, he would be scum because he would be a league player in that scenario, but it´s not like one can prohibit having a hobby for a man with some free time.

Fujino´s hobby, as it seems to be, is making netorare erotic games and sharing them online, so when he has free time and isn´t working on SAO, he makes some unrelated porn. It´s not like the Christmas Special must have taken him a lot of time to make either, he already had all the assets from his previous games, and the length of the game was like 20-25 minutes tops.

Anyway, what I will say is that his biggest mistake was ever announcing the last bonus mini-game to the Ciel/Patreon masses without having finished it first.
The complaints comes from the perceived agreement Fujino has with his supporters. Assuming you pay him monthly your expectation is getting a game update every month for that. If Fujino decides to change his release schedule then his supporters will change according to that.

We know August had no SAO update because of the business trip he had so he didn't have much time to work on it. Since the bonus game was supposedly almost finished he was going to release it as a consolation. But cancelling it at the last minute really stinks so we don't have anything for the month.

While I personally don't care if Fujino take breaks and do things other than work for a bit, not everyone is willing to give money to someone not working for them. I don't know if not releasing the bonus game was a mistake or not but if Fujino wants the money he needs to balance his time to keep people happy every month. I hoped after all the good work he has done his supporters would be more supportive but alas it is not so.
 
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I'm afraid it will suddenly turn out: "I released another stump, where there is not even half of what was expected, but at least I made this mini-game. I'm very sorry, forgive me, forgive me."
 

Aniky Light

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In my opinion Fujino feels under pressure, like he is being threatened with a gun, we need to let him work in peace. I have never paid him and I don't complain if he lags with the game or that the update out of my expectations

Haste is the cause of mistakes
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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Inoda is a SAO survivor. I get the real life reason of the author wanting the characters to be still recognizable so no changing their looks. But isn't there some reason from the LN on why the SAO survivors didn't change their Avatar looks after being freed?
The main SAO gang actually kept their avatars' looks because of plot-convenience, kinda like how Kirito's avatar 'glitched' and he recovered his SAO stats at the beginning of Fairy Dance, because ALO's system was essentially a direct copy of SAO's, the guys who took over after Sugou was arrested decided to offer any SAO Survivor the possibility of keeping their SAO characters' data in ALO by converting their old accounts, which is why everyone but Shino and Suguha look the same (Also, is style-convenience: Even Sinon and Leafa actually have the EXACT same face as their IRL counterparts, this is easier to see with Sinon but a lot of people actually don't see it with Leafa, but if you put their faces side by side she and Suguha have the exact same one, is just that her hairstyle and eye color have such radical changes they're much harder to compare, but this is ultimately just an artist-convenience, canonically Sinon and Leafa, in-universe, have completely different faces to their IRL selves, funnily enough. Hilariously, is only in the spin-off from another author, SAO Alternative GGO, that we actually get to see how VR Avatars are really supposed to look by looking nothing at all like their IRL selves, because that's a main thematic of that spin-off XD).

But yeah, the thing is that, convenience of art in Canon SAO aside, this got handwaved mainly because of ALO...realistically Kirito and Asuna here in "FOG" (Even Liz and Klein really), that has nothing to do with SAO, and that didn't get a convenient account-conversion-thingie like in Canon, should also look nothing at all like their IRL-selves, especially because most VR games post-SAO didn't really have 'character customization', but mostly randomized the avatar's looks created when you made a new account. So Inoda should actually NOT really look like his IRL-self (And hilariously, if you compare them side by side, Fujino actually DID make VR Inoda slightly less ugly than IRL Inoda, lmao), and even if he did he should have immediately just erased the character and created a new account because of how 'useless' his skill was before he met KiriSuna and got to level up. The only reason none of this happened is because of plot-convenience, there is no real reason why Inoda didn't "reroll" his character until he got some muscled NTR chad rather than his loser fatso self :p
 

ron34

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You know, this is something that I don´t really get from the people who complain about the extra games.
Do you think that Fujino shouldn´t have some free time for his hobbies?

For example, let´s say that besides living a life, making SAO content, and working like the average Japanese slave/salaryman, Fujino spent his free time playing League of Legends.

Yes, he would be scum because he would be a league player in that scenario, but it´s not like one can prohibit having a hobby for a man with some free time.

Fujino´s hobby, as it seems to be, is making netorare erotic games and sharing them online, so when he has free time and isn´t working on SAO, he makes some unrelated porn. It´s not like the Christmas Special must have taken him a lot of time to make either, he already had all the assets from his previous games, and the length of the game was like 20-25 minutes tops.

Anyway, what I will say is that his biggest mistake was ever announcing the last bonus mini-game to the Ciel/Patreon masses without having finished it first.
It's not that we don't want him to have free time. Frankly, I would prefer it if he simply said, "I'm taking a week off" or "I'm taking a month off." At least, I would know that Fujino is actually taking a break, rather than starting to work on another project. Now you would say, "maybe taking a break for Fujino entails working on another project," that's fine, it's his free time, he can do as he pleases. However, supporters won't see it at such, that time he spent on mini projects could've been time spent on SAO. And yes, he made the mistake of announcing the mini projects when they weren't done.

I can't wait for the update, I can only play this, who can share the character cards of Asuna and Inoda View attachment 4002661


KKS in VR is so gud :love:, specially the charastudio in VR.
 
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arone tajhiri

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Of course, right now the question is how far will Fujino go in this next update, IRL blowjobs, handjobs and things like that, or if we will push forward straight into sex.

I personally wouldn't want to move so fast to IRL sex, but every time I have said this Fujino has done the exact opposite, so who knows what we will get by the end of the month.
Bro forgot part 1 full of it before part 2
not rushed in any way
 

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It's not that we don't want him to have free time. Frankly, I would prefer it if he simply said, "I'm taking a week off" or "I'm taking a month off." At least, I would know that Fujino is actually taking a break, rather than starting to work on another project. Now you would say, "maybe taking a break for Fujino entails working on another project," that's fine, it's his free time, he can do as he pleases. However, supporters won't see it at such, that time he spent on mini projects could've been time spent on SAO. And yes, he made the mistake of announcing the mini projects when they weren't done.



KKS cards
KKS in VR is so gud , specially the charastudio in VR.:love:
I don't know why, I put your character card in the folder and it doesn't work
 

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The main SAO gang actually kept their avatars' looks because of plot-convenience, kinda like how Kirito's avatar 'glitched' and he recovered his SAO stats at the beginning of Fairy Dance, because ALO's system was essentially a direct copy of SAO's, the guys who took over after Sugou was arrested decided to offer any SAO Survivor the possibility of keeping their SAO characters' data in ALO by converting their old accounts, which is why everyone but Shino and Suguha look the same (Also, is style-convenience: Even Sinon and Leafa actually have the EXACT same face as their IRL counterparts, this is easier to see with Sinon but a lot of people actually don't see it with Leafa, but if you put their faces side by side she and Suguha have the exact same one, is just that her hairstyle and eye color have such radical changes they're much harder to compare, but this is ultimately just an artist-convenience, canonically Sinon and Leafa, in-universe, have completely different faces to their IRL selves, funnily enough. Hilariously, is only in the spin-off from another author, SAO Alternative GGO, that we actually get to see how VR Avatars are really supposed to look by looking nothing at all like their IRL selves, because that's a main thematic of that spin-off XD).

But yeah, the thing is that, convenience of art in Canon SAO aside, this got handwaved mainly because of ALO...realistically Kirito and Asuna here in "FOG" (Even Liz and Klein really), that has nothing to do with SAO, and that didn't get a convenient account-conversion-thingie like in Canon, should also look nothing at all like their IRL-selves, especially because most VR games post-SAO didn't really have 'character customization', but mostly randomized the avatar's looks created when you made a new account. So Inoda should actually NOT really look like his IRL-self (And hilariously, if you compare them side by side, Fujino actually DID make VR Inoda slightly less ugly than IRL Inoda, lmao), and even if he did he should have immediately just erased the character and created a new account because of how 'useless' his skill was before he met KiriSuna and got to level up. The only reason none of this happened is because of plot-convenience, there is no real reason why Inoda didn't "reroll" his character until he got some muscled NTR chad rather than his loser fatso self :p
well NTR isn't canon, Kirto is wearing his OG SAO outfit, and Asuna had her second mmo look, remember first episode creator of game forced everyone look like their actual appearance in real life. Plus i couldn't see SAO pretty ass RPG what this part one and two have lol, I personally don't care this isn't canon, in actual SAO they break up, i pretty much gave up on series on Fairy arc series was garbage because creator is terrible, I'm amazed stayed popular for awhile.

Series should of ended when Kirto basically woke up, ending on cliffhanger/settlement would of far better the series has became.

a lot of NTR's i seen it was mostly Klien with Asuna, or black guy forget his name.
 

ron34

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I don't know why, I put your character card in the folder and it doesn't work
They don't work as in, they aren't loading right, or you can't see them?
"UserData\chara\female" <- Folder location
If they aren't loading correctly, make sure you have the KK-HF patch or KK from ScrewThisNoise
 
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It's not that we don't want him to have free time. Frankly, I would prefer it if he simply said, "I'm taking a week off" or "I'm taking a month off." At least, I would know that Fujino is actually taking a break, rather than starting to work on another project. Now you would say, "maybe taking a break for Fujino entails working on another project," that's fine, it's his free time, he can do as he pleases. However, supporters won't see it at such, that time he spent on mini projects could've been time spent on SAO. And yes, he made the mistake of announcing the mini projects when they weren't done.



KKS cards
KKS in VR is so gud :love:, specially the charastudio in VR.
I think people often forget about the difference between buying a product and crowdfunding. Well, that's the thing with crowdfunding like Patreon: everything is voluntary. If the developer doesn't like the demands of the supporters, they are not obligated to follow them. The same goes for the supporters: if someone doesn't like the development process of the game or any other aspect, they can simply stop supporting the developer. It's as easy as that, and everyone should be self-aware of it in the first place. :sneaky:
 

kinglionheart

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I think people often forget about the difference between buying a product and crowdfunding. Well, that's the thing with crowdfunding like Patreon: everything is voluntary. If the developer doesn't like the demands of the supporters, they are not obligated to follow them. The same goes for the supporters: if someone doesn't like the development process of the game or any other aspect, they can simply stop supporting the developer. It's as easy as that, and everyone should be self-aware of it in the first place. :sneaky:
Buying something is like a all or nothing relationship while subscriptions like Patreon is more a gradual relationship. Good or bad feelings come and go. I don't agree that if the creator takes his patrons' money then he can not follow their wishes. At least without convincing them else risk losing their support.

Fujino was trying to do something nice for his supporters. I remember he started the bonus game during his month break maybe as a way to unwind. He was going to release it anyway but since he didn't have much time in August for SAO, releasing the bonus game as a consolation was a good idea. It would have been better for him if he did what he did with the Christmas bonus game and just released it without telling anyone. Then if he didn't want to release it, no would have known. But it was ultimately Fujino's own fault that the game he made was not up to his standard and not released. I am okay with his decision but I don't blame people for getting angry and wanting him to focus on what they paid him for from now on. I also don't blame Fujino for taking some time to make something else but my support is based on his SAO game. If he does not want to focused on that then as you said I can simply stop my support.

Although with how short people's attention span is now, I doubt anyone will still care by the time the SAO update comes out.
 
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