RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.702] [Fujino]

[pirohiro]

I don't think Asuna having little presence past the book means she isn't Reki's favourite waifu. It just means he sucks at writing waifus. They only exist to be saved. Once Kirito has finished fapping to their gratitude he moves on.

I'm pretty sure the series despite being 28 books long fails the Bechdel test where two female characters talk to each other about anything other than Kirito. But that is a good thing. If the female characters don't have a presence, they can't regress. Just look at Rezero. Emilia and Rem went from being interesting at introduction to no longer being able to feed themselves with a spoon.

 

[mos555]

I can understand Reki not liking Asuna and sees her as a old shame. He designed her at the beginning of his career not really as a character but a collection of all the qualities men would want in a ideal woman. Beautiful, rich, loyal, can cook, strong but not as strong as the man. He only refined her later.

Only later did he improve when dealing with women characters. I remember during Alicization arc he went on Twitter to apologize to the the Voice Actresses of Ronye and Tiese for making them do a rape scene. Men attempting to rape women is very common in SAO!

I agree. The tails of the old Kawahara Reki idea are visible in Suguha's character. Suguha is essentially very similar to Asuna in terms of character, but Suguha has loved Kirito since childhood, and Asuna fell in love with Kirito, in fact, due to the "Suspension Bridge Effect". "We are on the verge of death, why not?" That's why it is believed that Asuna was something like an untreated Suguha. A training character. But Kawahara Reki made Asuna too good and the fans stuck to the fullest. I can only say that during all this time, up to the "Unital Ring", Kawahara has developed Asuna and their relationship with Kirito quite well. So I can't say anything bad about Asuna at the moment.

 

[Infeno2.0]

Well, this will only happen if Inoda rapes her again, but unlike the last time, Asuna will not be angry, but will just find an excuse for herself to repeat it. But, simply, physical desire is not enough. The acceptance of virtual sex was due to a shock situation - Kirito cheating, blah blah - thinking changed. So something like this should happen in reality. If Asuna, FOR NO REASON, just responds to Inoda's harassment in real life after 2-3 updates, it will be a failure.

It's all about time, the IRL sex will happen soon than later if Fujino dont change anything he already did 60% of the game he can push the IRL sex for the final 25% 30% which will be the last 6 or 5 updates so since we have 8 to go, but the last update dosen't count because is the climax of the story so in 1 or 2 updates we will progress to IRL sex, that's why he split this week in game into 2 parts and push Asuna off IRL for 2 updates.
You can tell by how fast and how many perks had been unlock in the past 2 updates, he's cleary speeding up.
And Asuna is already sending nudes to Inoda her so called reserves about IRL sex are vanishing.

 

[mos555]

It's all about time, the IRL sex will happen soon than later if Fujino dont change anything he already did 60% of the game he can push the IRL sex for the final 25% 30% which will be the last 7 or 6 updates so since we have 8 to go.
You can tell by how fast and how many perks had been unlock in the past 2 updates, he's cleary speeding up.
And Asuna is already sending nudes to Inoda her so called reserves about IRL sex are vanishing.

Asuna had taken photos before and sent them to Inode, or she took pictures with him directly. It doesn't mean much. I think Fujino did this micro event with a mistakenly sent photo to show us that Asuna is communicating with Inoda, but she is a little unusual, because she habitually sent the photo to Kirito, not Inoda.

 

[kinglionheart]

Asuna had taken photos before and sent them to Inode, or she took pictures with him directly. It doesn't mean much. I think Fujino did this micro event with a mistakenly sent photo to show us that Asuna is communicating with Inoda, but she is a little unusual, because she habitually sent the photo to Kirito, not Inoda.

That is exactly what mistakenly sent photo was trying to say. If you update Asuna's status every night you find out she was horny and lonely Monday night so she masterbated but couldn't get herself off. Then on Tuesday she was calling or texting with Inoda all day which made her happy and that is why she gave him a deeper blowjob, gained the "Water Pump" perk, and increased his affection. So she was happy to continue to talk to him on Wednesday and send him sexy photos which is what Kirito got.

Whether you like it or not Fujino likes to hide story details for people to find and figure out. I like it but it a lot of people don't pay attention to the details and miss it. It does make for good discussions like this!

 

[mos555]

That is exactly what mistakenly sent photo was trying to say. If you update Asuna's status every night you find out she was horny and lonely Monday night so she masterbated but couldn't get herself off. Then on Tuesday she was calling or texting with Inoda all day which made her happy and that is why she gave him a deeper blowjob, gained the "Water Pump" perk, and increased his affection. So she was happy to continue to talk to him on Wednesday and send him sexy photos which is what Kirito got.

Whether you like it or not Fujino likes to hide story details for people to find and figure out. I like it but it a lot of people don't pay attention to the details and miss it. It does make for good discussions like this!

It's funny that Asuna hardly wrote to Kirito these days. She dumped him because of the trip, asked Liz to keep an eye on him, but otherwise Asuna seemed to be relieved of the burden for this time. Which is not like 900 love out of 1000. Technically, they can communicate in the game. But Asuna somehow wasn't particularly interested in his health in the game. And it would be nice to write a couple of SMS messages in a day, too. It feels like Kirito is an uncomfortable weight for Asuna.

 

[mos555]

I don't know how to explain it, but I have a certain feeling of discomfort. Asuna's attitude towards Kirito has changed dramatically. In fact, this trip to Kansai is not particularly important, after all, Asuna is in summer practice, it is not a full-time job. I understand that, most likely, Asuna agreed so that Kirito would not cause a quarrel with his mother again. But problems in the brain are a good reason to stay close to the person wanted to get married with and go to America together. At least that was the case a month ago... If Fujino decided to speed up the course of all NTR events in this way, then he overdid it a little and now he will have to spin to keep Asuna and Kirito's relationship on track and so that it does not look fake. That's exactly what happened in this update. Kirito and Asuna looked fake.

And when in an NTR game the feelings in the main pair of characters start to look fake, it either means that it is coming to an end or to the bottom...

 

[gaka200]

Just had an idea: what if Kirito's hallucinations aren’t what we initially thought? What if it's the opposite—that if Kirito told Asuna about his issue, she’d realize what’s happening and be forced to stop cheating in FOG. But since her need for relief wouldn’t go away, it could lead to an natural transition into IRL sex. As for battle scenes, it’s no problem since it's unlikely Kirito would revisit quest locations a second time.

The only thing to counter argue this is when Kirito feels like he's seeing Sinon naked in the hospital. So his hallucinations happen seem to happen in both places. But there is little evidence of him seeing past events IRL. But I wonder if the theory that IRL is just another virtual reality is true or not?

 

[oohprettyflowers]

That this seems to be going the netorase/cuck route is not great, hope you can just actively avoid that stuff. Zero interest in Kirito actually becoming a cuckold and getting enjoyment out of Asuna fucking others.

 

[maxkys]

I can understand Fujino why making the game took so long. Even though the scenes It will be a ready-made program. But placing objects takes several hours. But Fujino had to do more than that in many ways.

But I'm waiting for the massage scene again.
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Please give me Inoda's card, sir.

 

[4-kun]

The only thing to counter argue this is when Kirito feels like he's seeing Sinon naked in the hospital. So his hallucinations happen seem to happen in both places. But there is little evidence of him seeing past events IRL. But I wonder if the theory that IRL is just another virtual reality is true or not?

Or yet again one of the admins 'side effects'

 

[4-kun]

That this seems to be going the netorase/cuck route is not great, hope you can just actively avoid that stuff. Zero interest in Kirito actually becoming a cuckold and getting enjoyment out of Asuna fucking others.

Ironically, Fujino didn’t initially plan to make a cuck out of him, but it seems like some supporters wanted it, so he started to develop this second path. Initially, it was supposed to be just one of the endings, but it’s looking like it could actually turn into the new main path of the game.

 

[SixDates]

Quite a long time ago, Kawahara Reki gave an interview in which he said that he had plans after the first Aincrad arch to push Asuna into the background. She flew out of Japan after the traumatic events inside the game. He wanted to make Suguha his main romantic interest. During the ALFheim arc, Kirito and Suguha learned that they were not related and there were no obstacles to a relationship. And Suguha helped Kirito cope with his breakup with Asuna. But then the SAO fan base (which apparently consisted of radical fans of Asuna) got upset and Kawahara Reki decided not to remove Asuna and slightly changed the plot. After that, there was an Easter egg: Suguha is the only one whom Yui accepts on an equal footing with Asuna.

Memes aside, this update was pretty good, with a nice Asuna x Inoda scene for their fans, all meanwhile Sinon and Suguha stole the show by being the most entertaining part of the update.

My glorious incestual queen being the goat is just what I expected, but I did not expect to see Sinon climbing her way from being basically a non-character for most of the two games to being the most interesting character. (Excluding Kirigaya Suguha.)

I do think that, and this is not part of my Suguha agenda, that the update was lacking a bit of content. Content that could have easily been put in place with at least one scene of suguha taking "care" of Kirito in the hospital.

 

[Infeno2.0]

I don't know how to explain it, but I have a certain feeling of discomfort. Asuna's attitude towards Kirito has changed dramatically. In fact, this trip to Kansai is not particularly important, after all, Asuna is in summer practice, it is not a full-time job. I understand that, most likely, Asuna agreed so that Kirito would not cause a quarrel with his mother again. But problems in the brain are a good reason to stay close to the person wanted to get married with and go to America together. At least that was the case a month ago... If Fujino decided to speed up the course of all NTR events in this way, then he overdid it a little and now he will have to spin to keep Asuna and Kirito's relationship on track and so that it does not look fake. That's exactly what happened in this update. Kirito and Asuna looked fake.

And when in an NTR game the feelings in the main pair of characters start to look fake, it either means that it is coming to an end or to the bottom...

I said that a while ago, after the events in the last update, Asuna breaking and all that, is the point in most of NTR plots where the author make it or break it the entire story.
I think Fujino didn't break it yet, but is very close to it the only saving grace in this update was Suguha learning the truth to give any hope of a interesting story development.
The main reason to call this game a NTR game the Asuna Kirito relantionship was never strong to begin with and now is dead.
And since this is dead the only way he have to continue the story is pushing NTS cuck fantasy or exposing Asuna to a degree where she fell guilty/ashamed towards Kirito which probably can be done by Suguha, but i think it's too late now, welcome to NTS SAO Online My wife's boyfriend not so concealed magic.

 

[Marphey]

Ironically, Fujino didn’t initially plan to make a cuck out of him, but it seems like some supporters wanted it, so he started to develop this second path. Initially, it was supposed to be just one of the endings, but it’s looking like it could actually turn into the new main path of the game.

I am his supporter too but if he is going to go this direction then i am out.

 

[Skatlads15]

I don't think I'll find him now. It was in the year 2015 somewhere. You can try to scroll down Twitter, he posted a lot of different side information there. But I can say that Asuna is not Kawahara Reki favorite girl. It can be noted that in each arch there is always a new female center character, who is given much more time than Asuna. Suguha, Shinon, Silica, Alice. Asuna remained Kirito's girlfriend, according to fans, that she is the best girl of the title. But in total, little time is given to her in the series. Fans once condemned Kawaharu Reki for surrounding Kirito with unwanted girls. And Kawahara added it to the book, also as an Easter egg. There is a scene where Yui tells Kirito that he is too much with other girls, not with mom(Asuna).

I tried but couldn't find the interview. But ssly come on bro, you can't be real. Reki legit gave Asuna her own solo arc without Kirito in S2 (Mother's Rosario). And she had a lot more screentime in War of UW LN (thanks for cutting 90% that out anime director). She had more Screentime in WoU than Alice lmao. Reki also made her the MC of Ordinal Scale AND Progressive. Heck the progressive movies are from her perspective in the anime. While legit every other girl got relegated to no screentime after their arcs, Asuna kept getting more and more. Also Silica was never a focus beyond that one ep. There is no way I can believe Asuna isn't Reki's fav.

 

[Skatlads15]

I don't think Asuna having little presence past the book means she isn't Reki's favourite waifu. It just means he sucks at writing waifus. They only exist to be saved. Once Kirito has finished fapping to their gratitude he moves on.

I'm pretty sure the series despite being 28 books long fails the Bechdel test where two female characters talk to each other about anything other than Kirito. But that is a good thing. If the female characters don't have a presence, they can't regress. Just look at Rezero. Emilia and Rem went from being interesting at introduction to no longer being able to feed themselves with a spoon.

Bro come on, that's just not true. Asuna has so much screentime in the series. Heck with Mother's Rosario and Progressive, you can argue she has MORE screentime than Kirito even lmao. The other girls do get relegated, but not Asuna. Like he literally spent 200 years in UW with her.

 

[Skatlads15]

I can understand Reki not liking Asuna and sees her as a old shame. He designed her at the beginning of his career not really as a character but a collection of all the qualities men would want in a ideal woman. Beautiful, rich, loyal, can cook, strong but not as strong as the man. He only refined her later.

Only later did he improve when dealing with women characters. I remember during Alicization arc he went on Twitter to apologize to the the Voice Actresses of Ronye and Tiese for making them do a rape scene. Men attempting to rape women is very common in SAO!

Nah man. With the amount of focus she's given in main and progressive series, that just ain't right. Do you really think he'd go ahead and rewrite the whole first arc with Asuna joining Kirito from the start, if he didn't love her? Come on bro.

 

[4-kun]

I am his supporter too but if he is going to go this direction then i am out.

There is always a way, brother. You can abandon the main plot and follow the glorious path of Suguha.

 

[GuppyFish]

anyone know how i can fix this?