RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.702] [Fujino]

[Adsnow]

Hello everyone,
I have a few doubts/ questions, and I would appreciate it if you could help me understand, please.

1. Is sinon, the librarian from the earlier episodes?

2. Where/ when/ how does suguha know that Asuna is cheating with inoda?

 

[mos555]

I have some guesses when connecting some points together, these are:

Point 1: It seems that Asuna has already been corrupted by Oberon in SAO, but someone somehow did something so Asuna doesn’t remember this experience (maybe to protect her).

Point 2: There is a patient room in hospital specifically for Asuna. This room is not well-used for now but should have a purpose (otherwise why put a room there).

Point 3: Antennas is being widely equipped everywhere in the city. For sure it will influence people’s brains but for now not sure how.

Point 4: There has been more than one case where Asuna is brain-empty when being fucked by Inoda, like she literally doesn’t know what she is doing. At least two cases I can remember: In the kitchen Inoda says something about Asuna being unconscious, and in the church this time.

My guesses are:

Guess 1: This brain-empty status is a protection mechanism purposefully planted by someone (like her father) in the hospital room due to Asuna’s corruption experience with Oberon. It's a way to protect her so that Asuna can live a normal life after SAO.

Guess 2: Unconsciousness will be triggered when Asuna is excited during unfaithful sex conduct.

Guess 3: Antennas will alter this protection mechanism, like shut it down, which will speed up Asuna’s corruption and make her become even more lewd IRL.

If these guesses stand, we might see the following things in future updates:

Possible 1: Kirito finds out something (such as Asuna’s brain surgery record) in Asuna’s patient room in the hospital.

Possible 2: In future sex scenes, Asuna is more likely to be unconscious when having intense sex with Inoda, so Inoda can take advantage and do crazier things to her (remember Asuna is unconscious when Inoda changes the position, makes her clean his dick and swallow his cum in the church)

Possible 3: Antennas changes the brain-empty protection mechanism. Asuna becomes less hypocritical (this is what many people feel about her now), becomes more honest with her cheating sex with Inoda, and craves for more sex IRL.


Of course, these are only my guesses. Maybe Asuna’s unconsciousness is just a way how Fujino shows Inoda being good at sex. A clichéd narrative method in NTR games.

The ideas are not bad, but I can say that this is probably the same room in which Asuna lay during the Aincrad Arch or the Fairy Dance, the game seems to say that this room is reserved for Asuna's family, and not for Asuna herself. In the first part, Asuna did not lose consciousness, so if everything is as you suggested, then it looks like a failure in the plot. And she didn't lose consciousness at the hotel either. As for the antennas, I think it's some kind of augmented reality tool, or it's something that will cause Kirito to hallucinate in reality.

 

[mos555]

Hello everyone,
I have a few doubts/ questions, and I would appreciate it if you could help me understand, please.

1. Is sinon, the librarian from the earlier episodes?

2. Where/ when/ how does suguha know that Asuna is cheating with inoda?

1. Yes
2. At the beginning of the 0.60 supplement, Inoda accosts Asuna near Kirito's bed, and Asuna scolds Inoda and says that this is not a game, but sexual interaction is only possible in the game. And if you remember, there's a toy with a camera there which Suguha delivered

 

[mos555]

Hm... What if a plastic surgery is performed at the Hebeshima to make him look like Kirito? And in a few days there will be a scene, Kirito will see someone being taken out of the ward on a wheelchair (it would be a funny reference to Alicization) and this person looks like Kirito from behind. Well, then such a sea of plot twists can be worked out. Including the fact that the fake Kirito will do something with Asuna until the real one sees and knows it. For example, the fake Kirito will take away Asuna from Inoda, then Inoda will not find anything better than to turn to the real Kirito and our real Kirito fool, with his own hands, will return Asuna to Inoda's clutches.

 

[4-kun]

I have some guesses when connecting some points together, these are:

Point 1: It seems that Asuna has already been corrupted by Oberon in SAO, but someone somehow did something so Asuna doesn’t remember this experience (maybe to protect her).

Point 2: There is a patient room in hospital specifically for Asuna. This room is not well-used for now but should have a purpose (otherwise why put a room there).

Point 3: Antennas is being widely equipped everywhere in the city. For sure it will influence people’s brains but for now not sure how.

Point 4: There has been more than one case where Asuna is brain-empty when being fucked by Inoda, like she literally doesn’t know what she is doing. At least two cases I can remember: In the kitchen Inoda says something about Asuna being unconscious, and in the church this time.

My guesses are:

Guess 1: This brain-empty status is a protection mechanism purposefully planted by someone (like her father) in the hospital room due to Asuna’s corruption experience with Oberon. It's a way to protect her so that Asuna can live a normal life after SAO.

Guess 2: Unconsciousness will be triggered when Asuna is excited during unfaithful sex conduct.

Guess 3: Antennas will alter this protection mechanism, like shut it down, which will speed up Asuna’s corruption and make her become even more lewd IRL.

If these guesses stand, we might see the following things in future updates:

Possible 1: Kirito finds out something (such as Asuna’s brain surgery record) in Asuna’s patient room in the hospital.

Possible 2: In future sex scenes, Asuna is more likely to be unconscious when having intense sex with Inoda, so Inoda can take advantage and do crazier things to her (remember Asuna is unconscious when Inoda changes the position, makes her clean his dick and swallow his cum in the church)

Possible 3: Antennas changes the brain-empty protection mechanism. Asuna becomes less hypocritical (this is what many people feel about her now), becomes more honest with her cheating sex with Inoda, and craves for more sex IRL.


Of course, these are only my guesses. Maybe Asuna’s unconsciousness is just a way how Fujino shows Inoda being good at sex. A clichéd narrative method in NTR games.

Oh wow, those are some interesting guesses!

1. We don’t know exactly what happened with Asuna during that period. It’s possible she doesn’t remember because of the traumatic experience, or maybe she just doesn’t want to talk about it, which would be understandable.
See, Asuna’s character is very dependent on what people think of her. Whatever happened there, she’ll keep it to herself. Maybe her parents know, or a high-ranking private doctor, but she would never share this with the public (including Kirito) because it could damage her family’s image. This personality trait will probably play a bigger role later on. As her corruption progresses, she’ll still play the role of the perfect rich girl in public.


2. The hospital room is reserved for Asuna’s family, not exclusively for her. Hard to say if that’ll play any role in future updates or if it’s just a reference to the Aincrad arc.

3. The antennas were set by the council, and since they’re clearly focused on Kirito, they probably have some other purpose. I don’t think Asuna or her sex life has anything to do with them.

4. And this last one is just a stupid hentai trope to showcase Inoda’s ‘godly’ performance.

 

[Skatlads15]

It is too early to say he is turning the cuckold path to be the main path. He is only planning seeds and reasons why Kirito would choose to become one at the end. Before this update the only hints he could become a cuckold was the NTS couple in Part 1 so now we need more reason for Kirito or it would not make sense if he choses the cuckold path. Also remember all the cuckold choices are OPTIONAL. He can choose to ignore them and not increase his prurience.



Yea but that was much later when she became so much more popular. Remember the second arc in ALO Asuna was a prisoner and third arc in GGO she barely appeared. Mother's Rosario was the first time she became the main character. She was not around for the first half of Alicization either. Progressive was written much later when became the most popular character ever. Progressive was written in 2012 around the same time as Alicization BTW.
I was saying I understand if Reki not liked she in the beginning because how shallow he wrote her so he was ashamed. But who knows how he feels about her now with all the changes and progression he made for her.

Thing is, you are talking about the LN. SAO existed as a Web Novel long before. Everything up to Alicization was finished before 2008. Which includes Mother's Rosario as well.

 

[Infeno2.0]

1. We don’t know exactly what happened with Asuna during that period. It’s possible she doesn’t remember because of the traumatic experience, or maybe she just doesn’t want to talk about it, which would be understandable.
See, Asuna’s character is very dependent on what people think of her. Whatever happened there, she’ll keep it to herself. Maybe her parents know, or a high-ranking private doctor, but she would never share this with the public (including Kirito) because it could damage her family’s image. This personality trait will probably play a bigger role later on. As her corruption progresses, she’ll still play the role of the perfect rich girl in public.

Exactly Asuna and her mother are way too attached to theirs reputation, and this will be part of their fall.
Will be interesting to see their reaction if this get's public, mother and daughter are impregnated at the same time by the Janitor of the company, could be the final nail in their reputation the fall is complete.
The Oberon files will play a part in explain why Asuna fall and why she likes to be a sex slave, she's broken beyond repair, and also why she's so unsatisfied with her sexual life with Kirito is due to her prior experience.

 

[Pyunpyun69]

Very good as always, nothing to blame, Fujino's script is better so much

 

[Pyunpyun69]

Sakura's chapter has enough potential for Fujino to remake and develove to a great product like SAO TRAP

 

[mos555]

Thing is, you are talking about the LN. SAO existed as a Web Novel long before. Everything up to Alicization was finished before 2008. Which includes Mother's Rosario as well.

O my god, yes, the web novel appeared in 2002 in the form of a competitive work. So what time should we refer to what Kawahara Reki says? If he said that initially he had other plans for Kirito's romantic interest, then what does this apply to? I remember that he said that he had the idea to remove Asuna in the beginning. What does he consider to be the beginning for himself? Or what does he consider the beginning of this interview? WebNovel or LightNovel? I don't remember, I saw this interview a lot of time ago. I remember how Kawahara Reki tweeted that ALFheim has a "moral code" system that prohibits sexual interactions embedded at the core level and cannot be turned off. Kawahara wrote WN "Fairy Dance" in 2003, and Twitter appeared in 2006, and became popular in the world after 2010. If Kawahara Reki tweeted something does it refer to WN or LN? WN readers can now think that Oberon raped Asuna in a cage, and LN readers can sleep peacefully, Asuna's pussy is protected by Kawahara Reki tweet.

 

[best15tp]

Does anyone have a saved file of the finished game for me?

 

[mos555]

Exactly Asuna and her mother are way too attached to theirs reputation, and this will be part of their fall.
Will be interesting to see their reaction if this get's public, mother and daughter are impregnated at the same time by the Janitor of the company, could be the final nail in their reputation the fall is complete.
The Oberon files will play a part in explain why Asuna fall and why she likes to be a sex slave, she's broken beyond repair, and also why she's so unsatisfied with her sexual life with Kirito is due to her prior experience.

This is also a fairly common cliche in games. Usually, such women don't care about their reputation by the time they completely fall. So you can expect a scene where Asuna and Kyoko, and maybe even Liz, follow Inoda dressed as whores. But this is a standard NTR ending with a complete loss. Fujino has to do something smarter. For example, it is not necessary for everyone to know, but Kyoko's blackmail performed by Suguha and Shinon, it would be interesting.

 

[4-kun]

Exactly Asuna and her mother are way too attached to theirs reputation, and this will be part of their fall.
Will be interesting to see their reaction if this get's public, mother and daughter are impregnated at the same time by the Janitor of the company, could be the final nail in their reputation the fall is complete.
The Oberon files will play a part in explain why Asuna fall and why she likes to be a sex slave, she's broken beyond repair, and also why she's so unsatisfied with her sexual life with Kirito is due to her prior experience.

Those kinds of games don’t usually deal with the consequences. Fans of the genre don’t want to be confronted with real-world problems—realistically, they would probably run the company into bankruptcy, leading to hundreds of people losing their jobs. People just want to see their fetishes covered and jerk off without thinking about such matters.

As for Asuna, at least at the beginning of the game she was fine with Kiritos performance. Well, until Inoda showed her the way of pleasure. That's why that retcon with Oberon might seem a bit off.

 

[Infeno2.0]

There's a resaon about the NTS vibes the game is giving now, Fujino did change one key aspect in his plot design the secrecy.
NTR only survive in the plot while it's secret as soon this ends the plot turn into something else usually NTS cuck fetish because the NTR MC is only supposed to know the truth by the end.
So far nobody knew about Asuna/Inoda and the Admin Kirito's mind control was in full force, that's not the case anymore, Suguha learn the truth and already told to Sinon and by consequence the council, and the Admin control it's been replaced by hallucinations Fujino did that to make the story more dinamic and for that these plot devices need to go.
We all speculate how he could change the outcomes, well this is how, he said himself he was carefully considering new plot ideas, and now he can go beyond the 2 endings we already know, like for instance full reverse NTR, Public humiliation revenge.
Although we know the MC in his stories always end with the short stick, he's getting a lot of push back from SAO canon fans about Kirito/Asuna and all that, so i think he could include more endings just to avoid the canon fans and anyone who likes NTR but despise NTS which is the vast majority.
Although the bad taste left by the sharing wives from the last update is real, if Fujino wants he can do very interesting things in the future.

 

[Infeno2.0]

Those kinds of games don’t usually deal with the consequences. Fans of the genre don’t want to be confronted with real-world problems—realistically, they would probably run the company into bankruptcy, leading to hundreds of people losing their jobs. People just want to see their fetishes covered and jerk off without thinking about such matters.

As for Asuna, at least at the beginning of the game she was fine with Kiritos performance. Well, until Inoda showed her the way of pleasure. That's why that retcon with Oberon might seem a bit off.

Idk 4 since the beginning i always had the impression she was unsatisfied for some reason, and about reality or consequences remember in the council Fujino let some plot devices in place, some people who dont like both of them and had plenty to gain with their fall.

 

[kinglionheart]

As for Asuna, at least at the beginning of the game she was fine with Kiritos performance. Well, until Inoda showed her the way of pleasure. That's why that retcon with Oberon might seem a bit off.

Idk 4 since the beginning i always had the impression she was unsatisfied for some reason, and about reality or consequences remember in the council Fujino let some plot devices in place, some people who dont like both of them and had plenty to gain with their fall.

It is hard to remember since it was so long ago. One of the first Asuna's Room scenes in Part 1 was after having sex with Kirito she was unsatisfied that she had to finish herself off with a vibrator. So yes she wasn't satisfied with Kirito sex but still loved him so much it didn't bother her.

 

[4-kun]

Idk 4 since the beginning i always had the impression she was unsatisfied for some reason, and about reality or consequences remember in the council Fujino let some plot devices in place, some people who dont like both of them and had plenty to gain with their fall.

I understand were you coming from, I didn't buy their relationship from the start, from a writing perspective.
But I'm talking about the very beginning, here she seems happy enough to me.

 

[mos555]

Idk 4 since the beginning i always had the impression she was unsatisfied for some reason, and about reality or consequences remember in the council Fujino let some plot devices in place, some people who dont like both of them and had plenty to gain with their fall.

I would say that in the first part, Kirito and Asuna had a normal relationship. Asuna only started getting mad at Kirito when he expressed dislike for Inoda. And all the NTR was either manipulations of "Asuna senpai, I'm a little fat guy nobody needs", or violence. In the second part, Asuna's corruption has already become visible. An embarrassed, pitiful face during sex with Kirito, masturbation in a tent, and so on. Logically, Asuna doesn't want to admit to herself that she's a liar even now. Asuna can't call Kirito a liar because that means she's the same, and even worse. Therefore, "poor Kirito is under pressure" "And I'm just satisfying carnal desire so as not to put pressure on Kirito." That is, according to Asuna, she and Kirito are still doing well in their relationship.

In her opinion, the first thing in a relationship is love, sex is secondary. For now, Fujino just has to start substituting concepts in Asuna's head.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

I would say that in the first part, Kirito and Asuna had a normal relationship. Asuna only started getting mad at Kirito when he expressed dislike for Inoda. And all the NTR was either manipulations of "Asuna senpai, I'm a little fat guy nobody needs", or violence. In the second part, Asuna's corruption has already become visible. An embarrassed, pitiful face during sex with Kirito, masturbation in a tent, and so on. Logically, Asuna doesn't want to admit to herself that she's a liar even now. Asuna can't call Kirito a liar because that means she's the same, and even worse. Therefore, "poor Kirito is under pressure" "And I'm just satisfying carnal desire so as not to put pressure on Kirito." That is, according to Asuna, she and Kirito are still doing well in their relationship.

In her opinion, the first thing in a relationship is love, sex is secondary. For now, Fujino just has to start substituting concepts in Asuna's head.

Actually, if you have "See everything" Mode activated in Part 1, you can see that from the beginning Asuna IS dissatisfied with Kirito, she was masturbating right after they had sex the first time onscreen because she couldn't even reach orgasm with him, as per NTR rules, so while it was only physical back then it was already a full change of the NTRverse made by Fujino to already give cracks to their relationship that are nonexistent in actual SAO XD

 

[mos555]

I understand were you coming from, I didn't buy their relationship from the start, from a writing perspective.
But I'm talking about the very beginning, here she seems happy enough to me.

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That's what I'm saying, the first part was NTR based on violence and manipulation. People probably don't like that Asuna is turning into a whore. I can't say that I disagree. Everyone is like this type of NTR as in the first part, I like it more.