kinglionheart

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I personally disagree with that (But perhaps my ability to see it in a more gray way is because I'm not fan of the genre XP), NTR used to be exactly what the words translates to at first, "stealing another's lover", in fact lots of old NTR doujins around included either next to no interaction from the guy getting NTR-ed or things were only revealed to them at the very end. It actually focused on what it was meant to, aka the girls getting stolen and fucked by somebody else. At some point though the genre started 'twisting' more in what's more seen as nowadays, where it seems more people get off more from traumatizing or ruining the NTR-ed dude's life than on the girls themselves, which is where my personal distaste of most of the genre comes from, it seems more and more pages keep being used to detail how much the MC is suffering or for them jacking off to a video of their girls getting stolen than to the actual sexy girl getting it on with the NTR man of the hour.

Terrible writing aside, I kinda like Fujino's take on it, especially in SAO, because while Inoda still harbors retarded nonsensical hate and urges to ruin Kirito's life for no real reason other than his inferiority complex, we actually DO get a lot more focus in Asuna being stolen than in Kirito suffering thanks to him spending most of the game having no idea what's going on, which even with my little interest in the main story I can appreciate. So I'm not really a fan of how people seem to want Fujino to shift focus towards stupid shit like Kirito becoming a vegetable so Inoda can fuck Asuna in his face, it just feels pointless and dumb to me, especially when Fujino could spend time wasted on creating that plot in the first place to actually giving Asuna or the other girls more actual H-scenes XD
NTR is very inclusive so it is alright. :LOL:

Since NTR is about "stealing another's lover", not having the "another" around is incomplete to me. Even if he is there to be oblivious that is still part of the experience. Without love NTR can't exist so if the guy never shows up or reacts then the woman can not be in relationship with the guy and won't make a difference.

Also agree Kirito should not be a vegetable. That is needless suffering. Also going back to needing reactions to feel the complete NTR experience, fucking in a front of a vegetable Kirito is no different from fucking in front of a picture of him. It is good to reactions from when he thinks Asuna is cheating on him. Without those I don't think I would be as invested in seeing their relationship torn apart.
 

mos555

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I'm actually more impressed with NTR, where, let's say, the "wife" unconditionally loves her "husband", but cheats for some other reason, for example, dissatisfaction with sex, money debt or blackmail. But at the same time, I repeat, unconditionally loves his partner. That's why I think games like "Turning the page" or "King of summer" are very mediocre. Because the main character very quickly spits on any feelings for her boyfriend and just fucks. In fact, these games very quickly cease to be NTR because NTR carries the theft of a partner. But from a certain point on, there is no "couple" at all in these games. It's just a woman who fucks with another and for some reason returns to her "partner" and treats him like a piece of shit. I hope those who played will understand what I mean.

That's exactly the reason I like SAO at the moment. Asuna loves Kirito, but is not satisfied in bed with him, so she fucks with another and justifies that she relieves stress from herself and Kirito. But she still loves Kirito, even when Kirito asked for a blowjob in the previous update, she immediately agreed. And for this reason, I am sadly waiting for the further development of the game in which Asuna will lose her love for Kirito, and the moment will come when Kirito will cease to be Asuna's fiance and boyfriend. In fact, whatever Fujino comes up with next is nominally no longer NTR because we know that they no longer have a relationship. The game will become either an NTS or a mediocre drama. Kirito may not understand this, but we as players understand it. And we perceive the game as player and not as Kirito, so obviously we will understand that at the moment this cannot be called a relationship between two people. And I don't know how for others, but the game at such a moment, for me, loses its NTR component.

So the idea of Kirito becoming a vegetable in an armchair has a right to life if Asuna sincerely cared about him. fucked Inoda, but at the same time took care of Kirito. That would be good. But the fact that Kirito became a vegetable, and Asuna fucked Inoda in front of him, and what...? Maybe she spat in his face one last time? This is also no longer NTR, but rather just some kind of mockery of a disabled person.

That's also why I think that, for example, the scene in the pool or in the tent behind Kirito, or even the scene in the church from the last update is brilliant. Because they happen next to Kirito. You can say that a partner is being stolen nearby, but Kirito does not even suspect. The quintessence of NTR. And that's why the scene at 0.55 in the hotel, in my opinion, sucks. Asuna is fucking somewhere, and Kirito would have passed by if it wasn't for Liz with some strange invention in which Kirito saw some distorted images. Generally mediocre.

I just wanted to talk it out. Oh, I hope at least it's clear what I'm talking about... English is not my native language..
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I'm actually more impressed with NTR, where, let's say, the "wife" unconditionally loves her "husband", but cheats for some other reason, for example, dissatisfaction with sex, money debt or blackmail. But at the same time, I repeat, unconditionally loves his partner. That's why I think games like "Turning the page" or "King of summer" are very mediocre. Because the main character very quickly spits on any feelings for her boyfriend and just fucks. In fact, these games very quickly cease to be NTR because NTR carries the theft of a partner. But from a certain point on, there is no "couple" at all in these games. It's just a woman who fucks with another and for some reason returns to her "partner" and treats him like a piece of shit. I hope those who played will understand what I mean.

That's exactly the reason I like SAO at the moment. Asuna loves Kirito, but is not satisfied in bed with him, so she fucks with another and justifies that she relieves stress from herself and Kirito. But she still loves Kirito, even when Kirito asked for a blowjob in the previous update, she immediately agreed. And for this reason, I am sadly waiting for the further development of the game in which Asuna will lose her love for Kirito, and the moment will come when Kirito will cease to be Asuna's fiance and boyfriend. In fact, whatever Fujino comes up with next is nominally no longer NTR because we know that they no longer have a relationship. The game will become either an NTS or a mediocre drama. Kirito may not understand this, but we as players understand it. And we perceive the game as player and not as Kirito, so obviously we will understand that at the moment this cannot be called a relationship between two people. And I don't know how for others, but the game at such a moment, for me, loses its NTR component.

So the idea of Kirito becoming a vegetable in an armchair has a right to life if Asuna sincerely cared about him. fucked Inoda, but at the same time took care of Kirito. That would be good. But the fact that Kirito became a vegetable, and Asuna fucked Inoda in front of him, and what...? Maybe she spat in his face one last time? This is also no longer NTR, but rather just some kind of mockery of a disabled person.

That's also why I think that, for example, the scene in the pool or in the tent behind Kirito, or even the scene in the church from the last update is brilliant. Because they happen next to Kirito. You can say that a partner is being stolen nearby, but Kirito does not even suspect. The quintessence of NTR. And that's why the scene at 0.55 in the hotel, in my opinion, sucks. Asuna is fucking somewhere, and Kirito would have passed by if it wasn't for Liz with some strange invention in which Kirito saw some distorted images. Generally mediocre.

I just wanted to talk it out. Oh, I hope at least it's clear what I'm talking about... English is not my native language..
Funnily enough, that's EXACTLY the kinda games Fujino always makes, SAO being the only exception (I say present because he has kept it even with the mini-games that came out while he was making SAO). He always has his game either or start with the girl already completely NTR-ed or start completely cheating on the MC 5 minutes into the game, insta-corruption is kinda his thing, and one of the main reasons many complained thorough part 2 is because he clearly lacked the ability to properly write a plot as dragged out as he wanted to make this game's, as shown with the titanic backslash that the soft-rest the start of Part 2 got regarding Asuna and Inoda, and the several back and forths he had the plot make before settling on its current course XP (Granted, I personally am glad about them because is thanks to it that we got Yandere Psycho Sugu breaking the NTR Chains, but it doesn't change it's still not Fujino's usual style).
 

mos555

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Funnily enough, that's EXACTLY the kinda games Fujino always makes, SAO being the only exception (I say present because he has kept it even with the mini-games that came out while he was making SAO). He always has his game either or start with the girl already completely NTR-ed or start completely cheating on the MC 5 minutes into the game, insta-corruption is kinda his thing, and one of the main reasons many complained thorough part 2 is because he clearly lacked the ability to properly write a plot as dragged out as he wanted to make this game's, as shown with the titanic backslash that the soft-rest the start of Part 2 got regarding Asuna and Inoda, and the several back and forths he had the plot make before settling on its current course XP (Granted, I personally am glad about them because is thanks to it that we got Yandere Psycho Sugu breaking the NTR Chains, but it doesn't change it's still not Fujino's usual style).
Yes, yes, Fujino in the form of Suguha got a story cheat for himself. A crazy little sister who can be forced to turn the plot as soon as she wants. And nothing will happen to her, she's crazy. :ROFLMAO:As for the previous games Fujino, i agrees. In SAO, Fujino created a new and complex type of character for himself - Inoda. Inoda doesn't just want to fuck someone else's woman, he wants to take this woman completely for himself. How much easier would it be if Inoda would just fuck Asuna without any ambitions?? Asuna loves Kirito, Kirito loves Asuna, Inode doesn't care about anyone, he just wants to fuck Asuna and everyone is fine. But no.... Inoda wants more - the "pig's wife". Plus, there are more appendages of an additional plot around the main core - the Council, the administrator, Alice, Sinon, Liz... Fujino made life difficult for himself.
 
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mos555

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It would be nice if at some point in the plot Asuna realized that Inoda wanted to separate her from Kirito and would resist this and said to Inoda, "If you want to continue to receive my body, do not meddle in my heart and in our relationship." That would be brilliant. Inode would have to make an effort not to alienate Asuna and at the same time reconsider his future plan. And Asuna, realizing what this little manipulator is doing, would return her former attitude to Kirito, but she can no longer give up good sex and everything can be justified not only by relieving stress, but also by the fact that she really loves only Kirito. Classic NTR.
 
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albakr0ss

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Just putting it out there but as some others have mentioned. Kirito seeing Asuna x Inoda and thinking it’s just an illusion is going to be pretty nice. Maybe depending on his cuck value even an option to literally jack him self off to watching and hearing Asuna say her usual dirty talk to Inoda. I feel like either that or having Kirito consent (like through the yui ritual) to letting those 2 fuck in game and them “acting out” being Yui’s parents in game seem likes the best options to end part 2 in terms of FOG content. Since Asuna’s already consented to doing it anyway any new scene is just going to feel like new similar but different flavor of the month of what sex position do they do it now so I think we’re going to get the point of it becoming stale unless creative scenes take place.
 

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But is it possible to translate this game into other languages? Even the first one... I would be very interested in the story and I get tired reading it in English.
 

karlA29

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I like what one of the participants described here about the classic NTR. But I myself do not see in this work the love between the two characters, except that it is recorded in their status. Asuna almost always spits on Kirito's point of view and does everything her own way. Kirito doesn't seem to care where she is or what she's doing. He is ready to spend time anywhere and with anyone. Did you come and give me a romantic date? A friend called me here, I need to play the game - get home! At the same time, a week ago, he had a dream about Asuna being left alone on the street and being raped. It doesn't matter! Go home yourself! If I were her, I wouldn't even go into the game. I would leave Kirito's apartment, go to Inoda and offer to have sex
 
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karlA29

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and it's also annoying this stupid nonsense that in order to take a girl away from a guy, you need him to be no in bed. Let the norms fuck. She just tried sex with Inoda and liked him more. More perverted, more exciting, the adrenaline of cheating. It's not like a couple in a relationship can't have sex, because there should be a solar eclipse, Jupiter in the constellation Taurus, five new candles should be burning on the table, while one should be half burned out... Are the conditions not met? There will be no sex. The girl returns home, sees a strange guy who tells her - I have a dick, and you have a hole. Let's go fuck. Oh, OK, let's go!
A year later, the conditions for sex with your boyfriend are met, but then everyone remembers that he is impotent.... Why is this girl with him at all?! Why these idiotic plots?
 
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900bs

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I wonder if there will be another report before the update, say a day or two before the update comes out? It would be possible to write the update release date there
 

mos555

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I wonder if there will be another report before the update, say a day or two before the update comes out? It would be possible to write the update release date there
He usually always warns the day before the update is released. If he doesn't release updates by next Monday, there will probably be a new report and release date.
 

900bs

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He usually always warns the day before the update is released. If he doesn't release updates by next Monday, there will probably be a new report and release date.
Hmm, if he does make Saturday and battle scenes, he will write about it or just say that he added some graphics to Asuna. Plus, I wonder what will happen to the relationship between Kirito and Liz, because they both still have to pass the test. And probably something bad will happen on Thursday
 

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1. Low Purience = left with nothing
2. Mid Purience = We can make it work?
3. High Purience = Cuckito reborn (discount Klein)
4. Suguha ending ?
1. low purience = suguha/happy ending
2. mid purience = kirito will end up oblivious to the whole thing
3. high purience = klein route/cuckolding
 

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1. low purience = suguha/happy ending
2. mid purience = kirito will end up oblivious to the whole thing
3. high purience = klein route/cuckolding
1. low purience = Suguha and Kirito happy, Asuna BITCH
2. mid purience = Suguha yandere, happy end Kirito, Asuna and Liz BITCH
3. high purience = SUGUHA GENOCIDE, happy end Kirito, Inoda, Asuna, Liz death

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