Aniky Light

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The difficulty of making the fancy armor aside, is also not practical to have armor in a hentai game. Women's clothes needs to be taken off or moved aside to access the juicy bits quickly in these kinds of games after all. You don't want Inoda to actually work to get sex with Asuna do you? :ROFLMAO:

Also your favorite Sinon outfit. Is the current Leafa outfit very close to it? So it is just on the wrong character!
let's send Asuna on a mission dressed like this, without useless armor, Inoda will devour her:ROFLMAO: image - 2024-12-27T012336.809.png
 

girusan

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guys any recommendations of games similar to this? merry christmas yall
Fujino's games have a unique mix of style, storytelling, and gameplay mechanics. I haven't come across anything like it, at least in the NTR genre. Some elements can be found in other games. But the best you can find are his other, earlier games.
 

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Fujino's games have a unique mix of style, storytelling, and gameplay mechanics. I haven't come across anything like it, at least in the NTR genre. Some elements can be found in other games. But the best you can find are his other, earlier games.
It's true, all other NTR games pale in comparison. Fujino is in a league of his own, game changer
 

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Fujino's games have a unique mix of style, storytelling, and gameplay mechanics. I haven't come across anything like it, at least in the NTR genre. Some elements can be found in other games. But the best you can find are his other, earlier games.

I'd love to share your enthusiasm for Fujino's games, but for me, it's primarily the art that shines. He seems to make extensive use of well-known assets for the art and animations, which doesn't necessarily undermine the effort involved—much like games developed with Daz models or Koikatsu models.

However, my main gripe is with the narrative, especially when it comes to the portrayal of feelings—it just seems unrealistic. I get the whole 'hentai logic', and sometimes it doesn't bother me too much, but in this case, Asuna is corrupted too easily and quickly for my taste. From day one, she's lying to Kirito and sneaking around with Inoda behind his back.

I know we're not supposed to put ourselves in the characters' shoes in this type of game, but everything is designed to make us empathize with them. If we don't, we're left sympathizing with the antagonist. But I just can't relate to Inoda—I don't share his values or condone his actions towards Asuna, which feel like those of a virgin discovering sex for the first time. It's all a bit underwhelming, and I struggle to see how Asuna could fall for such a loser. Even with a lot of imagination, I can't make Inoda's appeal to her believable... Yes, it's fiction, but even in a fictional game, there needs to be a semblance of plausibility for it to resonate with people like me.

Some say you shouldn't empathize with Kirito to enjoy the game, but I find it hard not to because I can't align myself with Inoda at all.

Also, these games are presented as if we should experience the suffering through the eyes of the main character, and it feels like we're supposed to develop a masochistic aspect of our personality to appreciate this tragic experience.

I've noticed that every player has a different reason for playing NTR games, and I'm really curious—what's yours? I've heard that even creators can get depressed and empathize deeply with the characters they create, leading to cases of depression among NTR game developers. Although I doubt I'd feel depressed if I were to create a tragic NTR scenario for a character I invented, maybe I'm wrong. After all, these creators spend a lot of time with their characters and develop a bond, which is why they're so invested in their stories.

Furthermore, the game could benefit from multiple narrative paths and endings, similar to those in Dark Hero Party. The inclusion of a 'revenge route' in that game not only diversifies the story but also deepens the emotional engagement. Offering players such choices can enhance the realism and complexity of the narrative, making the experience more immersive and varied.
 

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Speaking of new outfits, Fujino should give a look at the Armors in the SAO games. I forgot i played the SAO Hollow F. and that was one of the best Armor
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I tried to befriend every single Girls NPC to have them put this on in town it was hilarious especially the Guards
And for Sinon this one is not bad either
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I like Kirito's armor except it should've been black to suit his nickname "The Black Swordsman".
 
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Aniky Light

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I'd love to share your enthusiasm for Fujino's games, but for me, it's primarily the art that shines. He seems to make extensive use of well-known assets for the art and animations, which doesn't necessarily undermine the effort involved—much like games developed with Daz models or Koikatsu models.

However, my main gripe is with the narrative, especially when it comes to the portrayal of feelings—it just seems unrealistic. I get the whole 'hentai logic', and sometimes it doesn't bother me too much, but in this case, Asuna is corrupted too easily and quickly for my taste. From day one, she's lying to Kirito and sneaking around with Inoda behind his back.

I know we're not supposed to put ourselves in the characters' shoes in this type of game, but everything is designed to make us empathize with them. If we don't, we're left sympathizing with the antagonist. But I just can't relate to Inoda—I don't share his values or condone his actions towards Asuna, which feel like those of a virgin discovering sex for the first time. It's all a bit underwhelming, and I struggle to see how Asuna could fall for such a loser. Even with a lot of imagination, I can't make Inoda's appeal to her believable... Yes, it's fiction, but even in a fictional game, there needs to be a semblance of plausibility for it to resonate with people like me.

Some say you shouldn't empathize with Kirito to enjoy the game, but I find it hard not to because I can't align myself with Inoda at all.

Also, these games are presented as if we should experience the suffering through the eyes of the main character, and it feels like we're supposed to develop a masochistic aspect of our personality to appreciate this tragic experience.

I've noticed that every player has a different reason for playing NTR games, and I'm really curious—what's yours? I've heard that even creators can get depressed and empathize deeply with the characters they create, leading to cases of depression among NTR game developers. Although I doubt I'd feel depressed if I were to create a tragic NTR scenario for a character I invented, maybe I'm wrong. After all, these creators spend a lot of time with their characters and develop a bond, which is why they're so invested in their stories.

Furthermore, the game could benefit from multiple narrative paths and endings, similar to those in Dark Hero Party. The inclusion of a 'revenge route' in that game not only diversifies the story but also deepens the emotional engagement. Offering players such choices can enhance the realism and complexity of the narrative, making the experience more immersive and varied.
those who have no empathy for Kirito, are those who play with one hand. What I understood there are two categories
1. Masochists with one hand on the mouse and the other we know, those who hold down the W key
2. Those who reason logically looking for plot holes, those who hate linear story and hate antagonist.
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girusan

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However, my main gripe is with the narrative, especially when it comes to the portrayal of feelings—it just seems unrealistic. I get the whole 'hentai logic', and sometimes it doesn't bother me too much, but in this case, Asuna is corrupted too easily and quickly for my taste. From day one, she's lying to Kirito and sneaking around with Inoda behind his back.

I know we're not supposed to put ourselves in the characters' shoes in this type of game, but everything is designed to make us empathize with them. If we don't, we're left sympathizing with the antagonist. But I just can't relate to Inoda—I don't share his values or condone his actions towards Asuna, which feel like those of a virgin discovering sex for the first time. It's all a bit underwhelming, and I struggle to see how Asuna could fall for such a loser. Even with a lot of imagination, I can't make Inoda's appeal to her believable... Yes, it's fiction, but even in a fictional game, there needs to be a semblance of plausibility for it to resonate with people like me.

Some say you shouldn't empathize with Kirito to enjoy the game, but I find it hard not to because I can't align myself with Inoda at all.
I want to ask you: how would you fix the unrealistic elements in the plot while keeping Inoda? (Without using cheap tricks like blackmail) Is that even possible?
Honestly, I see the plots of all similar games as a kind of fairy tale. In a fairy tale, a hero can defeat a dragon, and a beauty can fall in love with a beast. Sure, it's unrealistic, but it's still interesting to watch.
 

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However, my main gripe is with the narrative, especially when it comes to the portrayal of feelings—it just seems unrealistic. I get the whole 'hentai logic', and sometimes it doesn't bother me too much, but in this case, Asuna is corrupted too easily and quickly for my taste. From day one, she's lying to Kirito and sneaking around with Inoda behind his back.
While I agree the narrative is unrealistic. I would say the unrealistic part is how much luck and help from a literal goddess Inoda has to get Asuna, not the feelings part. Also Asuna is not corrupted too easily and quickly. It took literally half the game (around v0.5) to have Asuna to agree to have virtual cheating with Inoda. It is one of the slowest NTR stories I know besides VNs. Also what do you mean sneaking around with Inoda since Day one? Both in Part 1 & 2 it takes a while before Asuna would be alone with Inoda.

Furthermore, the game could benefit from multiple narrative paths and endings, similar to those in Dark Hero Party. The inclusion of a 'revenge route' in that game not only diversifies the story but also deepens the emotional engagement. Offering players such choices can enhance the realism and complexity of the narrative, making the experience more immersive and varied.
It is best not to expect too much from a sole developer. I don't know how Dark Hero Party works but this game with mostly Kirito's perspective and no endings yet already has so much bugs. Imagine how unplayable and how long the development will be if there was more paths and perspectives.

I've noticed that every player has a different reason for playing NTR games, and I'm really curious—what's yours? I've heard that even creators can get depressed and empathize deeply with the characters they create, leading to cases of depression among NTR game developers. Although I doubt I'd feel depressed if I were to create a tragic NTR scenario for a character I invented, maybe I'm wrong. After all, these creators spend a lot of time with their characters and develop a bond, which is why they're so invested in their stories.
I can't say for sure why I like NTR in general but for this particular game it is because I don't like the coupling of Kirito and Asuna. It just doesn't work for me so I want them to be broken. If this means Kirito suffers alone or Kirito happy with someone else it doesn't matter to me. I just want to see hot Asuna sex with another guy.
 

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I think some people are confusing realism and logic in storytelling. A story, especially fiction, doesn’t need to be realistic, but a good story must follow its own internal logic within its world and narrative. Tbh, I’m too lazy to explain the game, so I’ll leave it to you to think about it. :sneaky:
 

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While I agree the narrative is unrealistic. I would say the unrealistic part is how much luck and help from a literal goddess Inoda has to get Asuna, not the feelings part. Also Asuna is not corrupted too easily and quickly. It took literally half the game (around v0.5) to have Asuna to agree to have virtual cheating with Inoda. It is one of the slowest NTR stories I know besides VNs. Also what do you mean sneaking around with Inoda since Day one? Both in Part 1 & 2 it takes a while before Asuna would be alone with Inoda.


It is best not to expect too much from a sole developer. I don't know how Dark Hero Party works but this game with mostly Kirito's perspective and no endings yet already has so much bugs. Imagine how unplayable and how long the development will be if there was more paths and perspectives.


I can't say for sure why I like NTR in general but for this particular game it is because I don't like the coupling of Kirito and Asuna. It just doesn't work for me so I want them to be broken. If this means Kirito suffers alone or Kirito happy with someone else it doesn't matter to me. I just want to see hot Asuna sex with another guy.
I would prefer there to be more than one bastard, because Asuna likes big dick and not Inoda and so she will jump on any dick, as long as it is big.
 

Aniky Light

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if Fujino knows what the endings will be, then why does Saikey say:

Multiple Paths: Shape the narrative with your choices, leading to different endings?
Unless it's Kirito creating different endings for others and not for himself.
I think the ending will be a mess
 

shinav13

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im kinda confused, its there no asuna and inoda pov outside of recollection room in the part 2?
Im still at june 5th.
 

Aniky Light

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every monday i always have anxiety for new report, because i don't want there to be something i can't stand, it's about Suguha, it would be stupid if she ends up in an invisible trap too (i'm not talking about the 0.70 update but in the future) i think she will never end up with Inoda, because Inoda only fucked those who were in contact with him (Asuna, Liz and Asuna's mother), so Alice, Sinon, Leafa/Suguha were the only ones who were never in contact with Inoda even from afar
Anyway, do you think Fujino will put some taste of a new outfit for Asuna in the report for monday? image (50).png
 
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kinglionheart

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im kinda confused, its there no asuna and inoda pov outside of recollection room in the part 2?
Im still at june 5th.
There are some Asuna and Inoda's POV outside of the recollection room throughout the game but most of game is in Kirito's POV.

every monday i always have anxiety for new report, because i don't want there to be something i can't stand, it's about Suguha, it would be stupid if she ends up in an invisible trap too (i'm not talking about the 0.70 update but in the future) i think she will never end up with Inoda, because Inoda only fucked those who were in contact with him (Asuna, Liz and Asuna's mother), so Alice, Sinon, Leafa/Suguha were the only ones who were never in contact with Inoda even from afar
Anyway, do you think Fujino will put some taste of a new outfit for Asuna in the report for monday?
Relax the progress reports never spoil any story related events. It would tell if Suguha has a event but won't tell what and who it is with. Personally I think the closest Inoda will get with Suguha is this:

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I do hope we get a preview of what the new Asuna outfit will be but I don't expect it. It might be much of a spoiler.

Cute chibi Asuna pic btw.
 
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