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Here we go again with another perk list compendium, great work by the way thanks to the author, but it's kinda funny every time Fujino take a break in his 30 days schedule someone bring it back.

[Surrogacy Deal]【Mindset】 “I just need to help him conceive a child, and then I can... return to a normal life with Kirito...”

Asuna agreed to Inoda's request, promising to help him become a surrogate mother. But is this really to help Inoda, or is it just a convenient excuse to engage in unprotected intimacy with him? It doesn't matter anymore. After becoming pregnant, this twisted relationship will come to an end.

This perk in particular give the impression in this phase Asuna is having constant sex with Inoda, but still want to break things off to go back with Kirito?
Obviously this is Inoda manipulation, but let's take as face value how she getting pregnant by Inoda would help her to go back to Kirito? A Surrogacy Deal implies she will have to give the baby away to Inoda how she hopes to explain that to Kirito?
That makes zero sense.
The way the perk is framed "I can... return to a normal life with Kirito..." and "After becoming pregnant, this twisted relationship will come to an end. " give 2 vibes at same time, that she is going to do that behind Kirito's back knowing this is just Inoda's impregnation fetish and passing the baby as kirito's.
And at same time that she's being forced to do that for "this twisted relationship will come to an end." implying that Kirito maybe know what's going on and for some reason can't do nohting to interfere.

Maybe the twist that Fujino is hinting could be this, Inoda will receive some sort of power from the Admin/council as usual, but this time IRL, Mind Control and all that, what he will use to control everyone beside Asuna and Kirito because he wants to break her and just humiliate kirito showing Asuna choosing him, more or less in a hostage situation, well that would be fucked up
The Admin once said that to Kirito "since you is doing nothing, I should pick the other as my choosen one" maybe she already did that because the ritual since he is her/Yui real father
My interpretation to that perk used to be the ritual. But now its in tandem with the perk [Fence-sitter] where her mother and her best friend who I believe to be Sinon in this case. Im currently getting pilled with the theory suggested by the others where the administrator wants to be born in the real world. My head cannon would be there will be an issue like a data crisis with the antennas and only the Yui/Admin is the answer. It would be for Kyouko's best interest since shes like a big deal in RECT while Sinon is dealing the council sub-plot. Those stories will intersect she will get persuaded by both could also be the link between Inoda, Asuna, and Kyouko. The new character might even be Asuna's dad. Like any other theory there is a big change that I am wrong and there is like huge number of permutations on interpreting the perks. Would love to know your theories.
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The most important question is why? Why would she go back to Kirito? Based on all the statuses, dialogues, behavior, information, it already looks unreliable at the moment. Breaking up a relationship after quarantine, returning after the birth of someone else's child, who believes in this at all? It sounds as absurd as possible. Even Kirito is not stupid enough to not notice the 9th month of pregnancy and the loss of the baby after that. If Fujino is going to blame all the inconsistencies on erasing memory and manipulating the Administrator, then, of course, it sounds extremely convenient, but at the same time it is extremely disgusting for the story game. If Asuna is a living character, in Fujino's understanding, then how can Asuna herself explain that she will give the child to a schoolboy after 9 months of pregnancy? No way, Asuna is a piece of cardboard. Inoda in version 0.80 has already expressed a desire to get a child from Asuna, but what will he do with it, being a fucking schoolboy? It's okay, Inode is also just a piece of cardboard. Actually, if you think about it, I've never seen such a concentration of dumb cliches and illogicalities in any game. At least this is Fujino's game, definitely number 1.

Fujino -
"I made Kirito stupid, but something needs to be done with Inoda's forum, everything is written too bluntly there. Fuck thinking, let there be memory erasure in real life. I won't even explain how this is possible."

"I think I made Suguha too powerful, smart, and independent... Damn... Okay, I'll make sure that she doesn't appear in the update for more than 5 minutes. Jerking off Kirito in the bathroom, runs around the base and that's enough."

"So, if I decided to free Suguha and Sinon from Hebeshima, but what should I do? And I'll turn him into a woman without explaining anything at all. Sinon is a high school librarian and a member of a secret organization. I'am don't even need to explain anything. Mysterious organizations are so mysterious."

"I wrote that Asuna likes Inoda and she falls in love with him. Now they're going to fuck around the clock. Hmm, what the fuck does Kirito need then? Oh yeah, I'm making an NTR game, not a vanilla romance. Then let Asuna think that Kirito is her boyfriend more often. That's enough for the players"
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It's all humor, as always. A sketch, you might say.

Perhaps back at the beginning of the game, when Fujino came up with these perks, he didn't really think about how he would implement them. You can certainly say that Kojima.... Oh, I'm sorry, Fujino is a genius, but I doubt it. What's the point of trying to find logic in the actions of the characters, and in this game in general, if the author himself obviously didn't give a shit about it.

As for the chosen one, I think you're right. The administrator said all this to Kirito, probably hoping that Kirito would become the father of Yui (Quinella), and now that Inoda's father, that's it... Kirito finally fell to the bottom of the social ladder. Now he's just an amoeba who doesn't know anything, doesn't remember, doesn't understand, and doesn't see. :HideThePain:
I feel like people are forgetting that Kirito lost access to the blogs. It is just for convenience that we can see the posts inside once unlocked. So in "canon" (lmao) fujino-verse Kirito only see access denied or something. You can play the whole game without unlocking the computer.
 
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I feel like people are forgetting that Kirito lost access to the blogs. It is just for convenience that we can see the posts inside once unlocked. So in "canon" (lmao) fujino-verse Kirito only see access denied or something. You can play the whole game without unlocking the computer.
There is absolutely no logic in this. Fujino had been giving the player free movement since last year so that Kirito could sit down at the computer and watch the blog, and after that, an inscription appeared that everything he had just seen was erased from memory. At Kirito's home or at the hospital. What's all this for? He could have simply removed access to the computer so that the player could read the blog only in the dream world. That would explain everything, since Kirito's memory is erased when visiting the dream world. But the fact that memory is erased in the real world without any explanation looks like nonsense.
 

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The most important question is why? Why would she go back to Kirito? Based on all the statuses, dialogues, behavior, information, it already looks unreliable at the moment. Breaking up a relationship after quarantine, returning after the birth of someone else's child, who believes in this at all? It sounds as absurd as possible. Even Kirito is not stupid enough to not notice the 9th month of pregnancy and the loss of the baby after that. If Fujino is going to blame all the inconsistencies on erasing memory and manipulating the Administrator, then, of course, it sounds extremely convenient, but at the same time it is extremely disgusting for the story game. If Asuna is a living character, in Fujino's understanding, then how can Asuna herself explain that she will give the child to a schoolboy after 9 months of pregnancy? No way, Asuna is a piece of cardboard. Inoda in version 0.80 has already expressed a desire to get a child from Asuna, but what will he do with it, being a fucking schoolboy? It's okay, Inode is also just a piece of cardboard. Actually, if you think about it, I've never seen such a concentration of dumb cliches and illogicalities in any game. At least this is Fujino's game, definitely number 1.

Fujino -
"I made Kirito stupid, but something needs to be done with Inoda's forum, everything is written too bluntly there. Fuck thinking, let there be memory erasure in real life. I won't even explain how this is possible."

"I think I made Suguha too powerful, smart, and independent... Damn... Okay, I'll make sure that she doesn't appear in the update for more than 5 minutes. Jerking off Kirito in the bathroom, runs around the base and that's enough."

"So, if I decided to free Suguha and Sinon from Hebeshima, but what should I do? And I'll turn him into a woman without explaining anything at all. Sinon is a high school librarian and a member of a secret organization. I'am don't even need to explain anything. Mysterious organizations are so mysterious."

"I wrote that Asuna likes Inoda and she falls in love with him. Now they're going to fuck around the clock. Hmm, what the fuck does Kirito need then? Oh yeah, I'm making an NTR game, not a vanilla romance. Then let Asuna think that Kirito is her boyfriend more often. That's enough for the players"
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It's all humor, as always. A sketch, you might say.

Perhaps back at the beginning of the game, when Fujino came up with these perks, he didn't really think about how he would implement them. You can certainly say that Kojima.... Oh, I'm sorry, Fujino is a genius, but I doubt it. What's the point of trying to find logic in the actions of the characters, and in this game in general, if the author himself obviously didn't give a shit about it.

As for the chosen one, I think you're right. The administrator said all this to Kirito, probably hoping that Kirito would become the father of Yui (Quinella), and now that Inoda's father, that's it... Kirito finally fell to the bottom of the social ladder. Now he's just an amoeba who doesn't know anything, doesn't remember, doesn't understand, and doesn't see. :HideThePain:
I don't understand why Quinella should help Inoda even in real life if she wanted his help to get Quinella to appear IRL and when she'll be born, she won't need Inoda or Kirito,
the fact that Kirito didn't listen to Quinella, because like from the cannon, Kirito hates Quinella
 
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The most important question is why? Why would she go back to Kirito? Based on all the statuses, dialogues, behavior, information, it already looks unreliable at the moment. Breaking up a relationship after quarantine, returning after the birth of someone else's child, who believes in this at all? It sounds as absurd as possible. Even Kirito is not stupid enough to not notice the 9th month of pregnancy and the loss of the baby after that. If Fujino is going to blame all the inconsistencies on erasing memory and manipulating the Administrator, then, of course, it sounds extremely convenient, but at the same time it is extremely disgusting for the story game. If Asuna is a living character, in Fujino's understanding, then how can Asuna herself explain that she will give the child to a schoolboy after 9 months of pregnancy? No way, Asuna is a piece of cardboard. Inoda in version 0.80 has already expressed a desire to get a child from Asuna, but what will he do with it, being a fucking schoolboy? It's okay, Inode is also just a piece of cardboard. Actually, if you think about it, I've never seen such a concentration of dumb cliches and illogicalities in any game. At least this is Fujino's game, definitely number 1.

Fujino -
"I made Kirito stupid, but something needs to be done with Inoda's forum, everything is written too bluntly there. Fuck thinking, let there be memory erasure in real life. I won't even explain how this is possible."

"I think I made Suguha too powerful, smart, and independent... Damn... Okay, I'll make sure that she doesn't appear in the update for more than 5 minutes. Jerking off Kirito in the bathroom, runs around the base and that's enough."

"So, if I decided to free Suguha and Sinon from Hebeshima, but what should I do? And I'll turn him into a woman without explaining anything at all. Sinon is a high school librarian and a member of a secret organization. I'am don't even need to explain anything. Mysterious organizations are so mysterious."

"I wrote that Asuna likes Inoda and she falls in love with him. Now they're going to fuck around the clock. Hmm, what the fuck does Kirito need then? Oh yeah, I'm making an NTR game, not a vanilla romance. Then let Asuna think that Kirito is her boyfriend more often. That's enough for the players"

It's all humor, as always. A sketch, you might say.

Perhaps back at the beginning of the game, when Fujino came up with these perks, he didn't really think about how he would implement them. You can certainly say that Kojima.... Oh, I'm sorry, Fujino is a genius, but I doubt it. What's the point of trying to find logic in the actions of the characters, and in this game in general, if the author himself obviously didn't give a shit about it.

As for the chosen one, I think you're right. The administrator said all this to Kirito, probably hoping that Kirito would become the father of Yui (Quinella), and now that Inoda's father, that's it... Kirito finally fell to the bottom of the social ladder. Now he's just an amoeba who doesn't know anything, doesn't remember, doesn't understand, and doesn't see. :HideThePain:
Like i said we can't take the perk list at it's face value, Fujino is notourious for using too many plot conviniences.
That been said it's more because some simple details, like Kirito's recent develop humiliation fetish, and Fujino's confirmation about players choices having impact in the plot moving foward, maybe the reason is because Kirito will learn the truth not by the end but before that, and we will have choices in how this is going to humiliate Kirito and if he going to like or not.
There's one trope Fujino still didin't use, the forced cuck who need to ask or support the FMC being NTR because some debt or external factor beyond cuck fetish (NTS), like you will need to sleep with my boss because i made a mistake in the company and i'm lost money.
 
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I don't understand why Quinella should help Inoda even in real life if she wanted his help to get Quinella to appear IRL and when she'll be born, she won't need Inoda or Kirito,
the fact that Kirito didn't listen to Quinella, because like from the cannon, Kirito hates Quinella
If i had to guess will be for compatibility sake, if she took over Yui in FOG as is implied the excuse for help Inoda it's because in order for her cross over IRL she need her virtual mother be impregnated by the same father IRL otherwise thr transfer will not work
 

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I don't understand why Quinella should help Inoda even in real life if she wanted his help to get Quinella to appear IRL and when she'll be born, she won't need Inoda or Kirito,
the fact that Kirito didn't listen to Quinella, because like from the cannon, Kirito hates Quinella
Why would Kirito hate her if he doesn't know who she is? Some woman in a dream world who speaks in metaphors. I think Kirito doesn't understand what Quinella is talking about at all, and add to that that for Kirito, she and what she said don't exist at all, since Kirito's memory is erased after he wakes up. In this game, for Kirito, Administrator is Schrodinger's cat. It seems to be there, but it is not.
 

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There is absolutely no logic in this. Fujino had been giving the player free movement since last year so that Kirito could sit down at the computer and watch the blog, and after that, an inscription appeared that everything he had just seen was erased from memory. At Kirito's home or at the hospital. What's all this for? He could have simply removed access to the computer so that the player could read the blog only in the dream world. That would explain everything, since Kirito's memory is erased when visiting the dream world. But the fact that memory is erased in the real world without any explanation looks like nonsense.
No need for logic. As I said its for convenience for the game and the plot. Not everything has to be on face value. Just like the shrines, we are given choices to update the status while outside people like seeing the updates quickly albeit in the last update there is a status that got quickly swapped and thats a valid critique complained by one of us here. You can say why even introduce the shrine if we can interact with the orb. You looking for valid reason for that is like those people who is looking for a reason how characters can eat 300 cheese when opening the inventory in skyrim. Its just convenient for Kirito to forget the content so that the story flows the way Fujino intended that "Kirito has no Access". No need to write 2 stories where Kirito have access and no access.
 

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Why would Kirito hate her if he doesn't know who she is? Some woman in a dream world who speaks in metaphors. I think Kirito doesn't understand what Quinella is talking about at all, and add to that that for Kirito, she and what she said don't exist at all, since Kirito's memory is erased after he wakes up. In this game, for Kirito, Administrator is Schrodinger's cat. It seems to be there, but it is not.
kirito hates her because he doesn't understand what she says
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My interpretation to that perk used to be the ritual. But now its in tandem with the perk [Fence-sitter] where her mother and her best friend who I believe to be Sinon in this case. Im currently getting pilled with the theory suggested by the others where the administrator wants to be born in the real world. My head cannon would be there will be an issue like a data crisis with the antennas and only the Yui/Admin is the answer. It would be for Kyouko's best interest since shes like a big deal in RECT while Sinon is dealing the council sub-plot. Those stories will intersect she will get persuaded by both could also be the link between Inoda, Asuna, and Kyouko. The new character might even be Asuna's dad. Like any other theory there is a big change that I am wrong and there is like huge number of permutations on interpreting the perks. Would love to know your theories.
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The "best friend" it's Liz and when this happens Liz and Kyoko both alredy will be impregnated by Inoda.
I think will be more to force Asuna to be in the same situation, now why they accept getting pregant by inoda is anyone guess.
 
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The "best friend" it's Liz and when this happens Liz and Kyoko both alredy will be impregnated by Inoda.
I think will be more to force Asuna to be in the same situation, now why they accept getting pregant by inoda is anyone guess.
Inoda: See how good those two were? Now it's your turn Asuna
 
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No need for logic. As I said its for convenience for the game and the plot. Not everything has to be on face value. Just like the shrines, we are given choices to update the status while outside people like seeing the updates quickly albeit in the last update there is a status that got quickly swapped and thats a valid critique complained by one of us here. You can say why even introduce the shrine if we can interact with the orb. You looking for valid reason for that is like those people who is looking for a reason how characters can eat 300 cheese when opening the inventory in skyrim. Its just convenient for Kirito to forget the content so that the story flows the way Fujino intended that "Kirito has no Access". No need to write 2 stories where Kirito have access and no access.
let's call it for what it is "lazy writing", in the first game Fujino had a better idea anonimous censored videos sent to Kirito's phone.
 
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The "best friend" it's Liz and when this happens Liz and Kyoko both alredy will be impregnated by Inoda.
I think will be more to force Asuna to be in the same situation, now why they accept getting pregant by inoda is anyone guess.
I also thought of this but to spice things up ala fanfic conspiracy. I also wrote Sinon cause if I remember correctly it is stated "in fujino-verse" that Sinon is one of her best friend. (pls correct me cause I might be coughing up new details).
 

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I also thought of this but to spice things up ala fanfic conspiracy. I also wrote Sinon cause if I remember correctly it is stated "in fujino-verse" that Sinon is one of her best friend. (pls correct me cause I might be coughing up new details).
That's right, Sinon was named as Asuna's best friend for some reason, even though there's not a single scene in the game where they even chatted. Perhaps, since there was only one mention of a "best friend," Fujino confused Sinon and Liz.
 

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I also thought of this but to spice things up ala fanfic conspiracy. I also wrote Sinon cause if I remember correctly it is stated "in fujino-verse" that Sinon is one of her best friend. (pls correct me cause I might be coughing up new details).
Yes Sinon was mentioned as one the Asuna's best friend, but the best friend is Liz, Sinon is just probing Asuna about her relationship with Kirito and keeping tabs on her over the affair, but so far Asuna didn't told anyone about it so Sinon know because she's part of the council and they know everything that happen inside FOG and also because Suguha told her.
 

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That's right, Sinon was named as Asuna's best friend for some reason, even though there's not a single scene in the game where they even chatted. Perhaps, since there was only one mention of a "best friend," Fujino confused Sinon and Liz.
They are talking by phone, but there's one weird thing related to Kirito humiliation scene, Asuna during the scene think from who Kirito learn to like or is doing that, Liz, Sinon or the blond elf and she was kinda ok with the idea.
So was implied she suspect that one or both of them are fucking with Kirito.
 
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