mos555

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I mean, if I remember correctly, Fujino didn't say he wouldn't make a Part 3; he just said he would finish Part 2 with version 1.0. or at least he will try. That doesn't mean the story will be finished at that point.

Personally, I wouldn't mind him wrapping the story up, but that's just me because I'm not too invested in the main plot. Other people would probably be fine with this game going on for a few more years.
No, better not. I don't think my nerves and mind will hold up for a few more years. o_O
 
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I mean, if I remember correctly, Fujino didn't say he wouldn't make a Part 3; he just said he would finish Part 2 with version 1.0. or at least he will try. That doesn't mean the story will be finished at that point.

Personally, I wouldn't mind him wrapping the story up, but that's just me because I'm not too invested in the main plot. Other people would probably be fine with this game going on for a few more years.
Part 3 is out the picture as a self contained continuation, he don't want to continue the story with new future events.
Me neither the story is already too long anyway and i think he also don't mind finishing soon rather then later, he's probably tired afterall has been almost 3 years doing that part 1 and 2 but the money is good so.

Well I do not know... Fujino used to talk about 1.0, but nothing prevents him from continuing to make the game, 1.1, 1.2, and so on. As long as there is interest in the game and as long as Fujino has ideas, why not continue. Maybe he has ideas until the very end, who knows. And do not dump the final version from the scenes, perhaps the final update will be made in the form of a separate game.

And one more thing I want to say: I think anal sex will be earlier than vaginal sex, because anal sex is given a less sacred meaning. Some people believe that anal sex is not cheating at all.
Don't mind the order, anal sex and all that, is just a event in the list.
Yeah but yu have to consider the effect of diminish returns, after a while the repetition sets in and the story became dull and
boring, like "oh a new update this time inoda found a way to fuck Asuna's ear but only the right one".
Nah he already did that, part 1 remember he's not going to hold the ending to a new game where you will need introduction/development and ending.
Part 1.1, 1.2 and so on only if he want to take the risk to be seen as staller, which can hurt any new project he have in mind.
 

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Part 3 is out the picture as a self contained continuation, he don't want to continue the story with new future events.
Me neither the story is already too long anyway and i think he also don't mind finishing soon rather then later, he's probably tired afterall has been almost 3 years doing that part 1 and 2 but the money is good so.



Don't mind the order, anal sex and all that, is just a event in the list.
Yeah but yu have to consider the effect of diminish returns, after a while the repetition sets in and the story became dull and
boring, like "oh a new update this time inoda found a way to fuck Asuna's ear but only the right one".
Nah he already did that, part 1 remember he's not going to hold the ending to a new game where you will need introduction/development and ending.
Part 1.1, 1.2 and so on only if he want to take the risk to be seen as staller, which can hurt any new project he have in mind.
Well, I think we definitely shouldn't worry about it. In fact, we don't have any opportunities to change anything. If Fujino doesn't have time to do everything he wants in 7 updates and ends the game with a lame ending, then there's nothing we can do except scream in the comments. It depends on what Fujino wants in the end. If he wants money and popularity, then there will be version 1.05, and 1.1, and then 1.6. Asuna's ears and nostrils will suffer as long as there are subscribers and Fujino has the desire to do something. We just have to eat what they give us and build theories on the forum.

Someone wrote above that when Fujino did SAO part 1, the number of subscribers increased by 2 times. And now there may be even more of them. So what do you think is more important for Fujino in the end: the promise to finish by version 1.0 or to eat delicious food and sleep sweetly in a nice apartment?
 
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Well, I think we definitely shouldn't worry about it. In fact, we don't have any opportunities to change anything. If Fujino doesn't have time to do everything he wants in 7 updates and ends the game with a lame ending, then there's nothing we can do except scream in the comments. It depends on what Fujino wants in the end. If he wants money and popularity, then there will be version 1.05, and 1.1, and then 1.6. Asuna's ears and nostrils will suffer as long as there are subscribers and Fujino has the desire to do something. We just have to eat what they give us and build theories on the forum.

Someone wrote above that when Fujino did SAO part 1, the number of subscribers increased by 2 times. And now there may be even more of them. So what do you think is more important for Fujino in the end: the promise to finish by version 1.0 or to eat delicious food and sleep sweetly in a nice apartment?
Well i can't argue with that money is always a strong motivator indeed, but that been said, reputation is important as well and if he does that a lame ending or stall the game, people will remember in any new project he start, heck there's people complaining about part1 ending and the soft reset on 2 to this very day and SAO is not a infinity source of ideas either, that's is the dull and boring part i was talking about we going get to a point where will be nothing left to be done then from a developer perspective why not try something new there's plenty of series he can use. Then in the future he can come back to SAO to do a different story.
I didin't say that can't be done in 7 parts but adjusts will had to be made like Liz and Kyoko been cut off short which probably he didn't want to do it since he brought them in this version of the game.
 
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Been trying to find a answer for a few hours now, is there a way to rebind W (skip) to shift instead, holding down Enter and W is a pain if you want to skip fast...
 

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Well i can't argue with that money is always a strong motivator indeed, but that been said, reputation is important as well and if he does that a lame ending or stall the game, people will remember in any new project he start, heck there's people complaining about part1 ending and the soft reset on 2 to this very day and SAO is not a infinity source of ideas either, that's is the dull and boring part i was talking about we going get to a point where will be nothing left to be done then from a developer perspective why not try something new there's plenty of series he can use. Then in the future he can come back to SAO to do a different story.
I didin't say that can't be done in 7 parts but adjusts will had to be made like Liz and Kyoko been cut off short which probably he didn't want to do it since he brought them in this version of the game.
Fujino is not the first and not the last indie developer who has overloaded the game with characters and plot lines. We can only hope that Fujino will stand up and do everything right. We can only fill up the forum with theories, suddenly Fujino is sitting here looking for something interesting.
 

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I would suggest to not worry about this ending at v1.0 or whatever. It's Fujino's intended plan, but things can change and Fujino can also just start changing the naming scheme of each update by whatever number they want.

General signs indicate Fujino is going to run out of space and have to make a Part 3, but I don't think it's worth worrying too much about.
 

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I would suggest to not worry about this ending at v1.0 or whatever. It's Fujino's intended plan, but things can change and Fujino can also just start changing the naming scheme of each update by whatever number they want.

General signs indicate Fujino is going to run out of space and have to make a Part 3, but I don't think it's worth worrying too much about.
Right. There is nothing stopping Fujino going from v0.95 to v0.96 and the later from v0.99 to v0.991. Version number is pretty arbitrary.
 

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Right. There is nothing stopping Fujino going from v0.95 to v0.96 and the later from v0.99 to v0.991. Version number is pretty arbitrary.
You're not wrong, maybe he's already flirting with this idea, he did split the game week in 2 this update 0.60 if the next instead 0.65 we got something like 0.62.5 because is only half week.
For us this would probably be okay but we are not his main audience idk how this would land with his fans at CIEN over there they complain about having to pay for a month without content like last august, true is just a few but man they make some noise over his page there.
Either way as long he don't get frustrated with that and go fuck it and don't cut too much in the plot, he does have my support.
 

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Right. There is nothing stopping Fujino going from v0.95 to v0.96 and the later from v0.99 to v0.991. Version number is pretty arbitrary.
Checking my folder of older updates the earlier updates were like v0.32, v0.36, or v0.42. But yeah basically the version number doesn't really mean anything.
 

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I'm stuck on the night from 6/17 to 6/18 when Kirito gets a call from klein, after the quick scene with Asuna and a black guy I get stuck in the alley with the screen kinda zoomed in, can someone help? or provide a save that is just after please? thanks
 
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In the recollection I notice that Klein can become allice's first, how do you trigger that?
A short part of the story has you play as Klein; I think you get the option of 'go straight to Alice' or 'wait and do some chores'. If you wait, the other guy fucks her first. But I think it all ends up in the same 'Klein enjoys cuck' plot.
 

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Quite a long time ago, Kawahara Reki gave an interview in which he said that he had plans after the first Aincrad arch to push Asuna into the background. She flew out of Japan after the traumatic events inside the game. He wanted to make Suguha his main romantic interest. During the ALFheim arc, Kirito and Suguha learned that they were not related and there were no obstacles to a relationship. And Suguha helped Kirito cope with his breakup with Asuna. But then the SAO fan base (which apparently consisted of radical fans of Asuna) got upset and Kawahara Reki decided not to remove Asuna and slightly changed the plot. After that, there was an Easter egg: Suguha is the only one whom Yui accepts on an equal footing with Asuna.

Perhaps Fujino is a fan of the old ways and is taking revenge for those events.
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I'm sorry, I don't want to believe it. The author once said in an interview that he was a fan of Kirito and Asuna's relationship in WN and LN writing. Please provide a source about this interview
 

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Well that's explain a lot why i always find Asuna a boring/bland by the numbers type of character, if the author wanted to put her in the bench back in the day he maybe thought he could do something better. But otakus and their wayfus.
SAO is just a OK series i never understood why all this hype around it, the characters are weak, the plot would work a lot better as a adventure/action around Kirito, but became this boring teen romance that never gets anywhere, and for some reason it's the most important thing for everyone in the story.
I see you don't read LN, there is a detailed description of the development of the plot, characters, the development of the relationship between Asuna and Kirito. SAO is about blurring the boundaries of reality to a VR game, it tells about the life of the characters. Asuna is not boring, bland, she is just well written, the same as the rest of the characters. Asuna comes from a wealthy Yuuki family, she has strict parents who control her life. Asuna is obedient especially to her mother, for example if she hadn't talked to Yuuki Konno she would have given up and not fought to stay in school and have Kirito's boyfriend, she would have gone to another school and had another boyfriend. Thanks to Kirito, Asuna changed her life, it was in the Mother's Rosario arc that she defended her mother about the SAO school and Kirito, which her mother finally reconciled and accepted her boyfriend. Asuna is Kirito's life, Kirito is also important to Asuna, they love each other, support each other, etc. If Kirito was killed, Asuna would commit suicide, Kirito would do the same. Arc Mother's Rosiaro very well written plot, e.g. thanks to the Medicuid technology (I forgot the name) it supported the life of Yuuki Konno, who was sick with AIDS, the virus. All characters are well written. The romantic plot is in the background, Kirito and Asuna show a mature relationship.
I know because I read the LN, I try to understand what the plot conveys and what the characters say in the anime and the LN.
 
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It occurred to me that if Fujino is planning the ending of "Happy Cuckold", then so far there are a number of mutually exclusive paramaters. Kirito sees the example of Klein and the Priest in front of him. Alice and the Priest's wife fuck with several men, Fujino also said that apart from Inoda, Asuna will not fuck with anyone. It's problematic for such an ending. Inoda also hates Kirito and wants Asuna to be his pig wife both in the game and in real life, but if Kirito is a cuckold, according to the rules Asuna must be Kirito's wife and Kirito must voluntarily share with Inoda. This is impossible for Inoda, he wants to get rid of Kirito. So what if Fujino is planning to do the ending of "Happy Cuckold" (is he planning to?)then you need to do several actions.
1. Kirito must fully return Asuna's love.
2. Kirito must expose Inoda in front of Asuna
3. Kirito must get rid of Inoda
4. Kirito must inspire Asuna with the idea of other men.
And then the ending "Happy Cuckold" may turn out, for example, there will be final scenes where Asuna "works" in a church or fucks with someone in the RECT toilet.
In short, the Inoda and the ending of "Happy Cuckold" are incompatible

From my understanding of the story and the way in which the creative process of Fujino works there will be a "Happy Cuckold" but not in the way we might expect.

It's clear that the story suffered some changes from the initial premise which was set out. This change coincides with his work related trip where he took a break from developing the game and focused on fleshing out the story and potential endings. Here a discussion can be had if the change was planned all along, but Fujino lacked the inspiration, or it is a new idea that came to him.

Up to the previous update release, the game story was following the classic trajectory for a NTR game, and we could make educated guesses on what the potential endings and story flow might be. Asuna, Kyoko and Liz being conquered by Inoda, Kirito becoming a loser and running to America, Sinon and Suguha becoming Hebishima playthings and Alice becoming a toy for Fukushi with Klein on the sidelines. And I think Fujino also knew that following this trajectory will not require much creativity and in the end just put his game on the same tier list as other in the genre.

With the changes done to the story and character relations, I am suspecting that Fujino is trying to subvert our expectations. Proof is the sudden friendship relation between Sinon and Asuna and the one-week time skip done after Asuna and Kirito relation got more leeway from Kyoko. Hebishima removal from the story together with Sugu and Sinon relocation to other roles in the story. All this indicate that Fujino is trying to route the story in a new direction, while at the same time trying to conceal the outcome/endings in a complex web of conflicting goals and motivations.

My theories for the possible game endings, if the development of the game keeps the same momentum and Fujino retains his motivations for working on this game, are as follows.

1. NTR ending - Kirito only finds out about Asuna cheating with Inoda at the end of the game. Kirito breaks down and decides to cut all ties with Asuna and follows his dream of studying in America alone. In this ending, Kirito does not find out about Kyoko relation with Inoda or about any other actions that Inoda may have had with other characters.

2. New relationship ending - this ending follows the same premise as the NTR ending. What is changed is that Kirito upon finding about the Asuna Inoda relation, he decides to leave Asuna and get in a new exclusive relationship with someone else from the female cast. Liz or Sugu are the only candidates for now. Remains to be seen what are Sinon feelings towards Kirito.

3. Polygamous relations / "Happy Cuckold" ending - Kirito finds about Asuna cheating and decides to accept it with the condition that he too will get another partner besides Asuna. Kirito will have to choose one between Liz, Sugu and Sinon. For this ending to work, Kyoko relationship with Inoda has to stay hidden from Kirito and also Kyoko does not have to know that Kirito is having another partner. Here I am thinking that depending on the person chosen by Kirito and Kirito stance on being a cuck the girl that gets in the polygamous relations can still have sex with other people behind Kirito back or be open about it. One example is that Kirito gets Liz as his other partner, but Liz is also fucking Inoda behind Kirito back. We know that Fujino is also playing with this idea and also Kirito had a dream where Liz is servicing Inoda. While this might not fall exactly in "Happy Cuckold" ending, I believe this is the closest we can get to it with the limitations that Fujino put in place for Asuna.

4. Kirito cheating ending - Kirito finds about everything, not just Asuna and Inoda relation. Here I am taliking about Kyoko relation with Inoda, Liz relation with Inoda, Sinon and Suguha past relation with Hebishima and their subsequent actions. Upon Kirito learning about all that is happening or took place, he decides to still keep a formal relation with Asuna and make her think that he is in the dark, while Kirito is having sex and exploring all his options will all the girls Liz, Sinon, Sugu, Alice. In this ending, Kirito basically becomes a man whore, and he tries to have as much fun as possible.

These are the endings that I could see happening. Then again, these are just speculation and Fujino might decide he will just end the story with a cliché ending and that will be that. I myself hope to get more endings, and the endings that I am most invested in are 3 and 4. Endings 3 and 4 offer the most creative freedom and most satisfying end to the game in my opinion.
 
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