4-kun

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I don't understand why people here—though not as bad as the trolls on Ci-en—have grown to hate Fujino and his work so much lately. I've been loving his recent updates: the massive amounts of text, multi-angle and multi-stage CGs, and his constant experimentation with new presentation techniques. Even if you think it's not as good as the Treehouse version (though I personally disagree), it absolutely doesn't deserve this much hate.

Lately, all the discussions have been criticizing him for 'losing control of the plot,' but isn't a woman's emotional arc supposed to be a parabola? The closer it gets to the end, the more it spirals out of control.

I think Fujino has grand ambitions for this project—his 'Six Beasts' setup is clearly stage-setting for something much bigger. As for the villains being superficially sophisticated but logically flimsy… isn’t that just part of SAO’s DNA? Name one antagonist in the original who wasn’t childish. Without these typical light-novel idiots, the game could’ve wrapped up by v0.80, maybe v0.85 at most.

I hope Fujino keeps updating the way he wants, without bending to haters and trolls. I want to see how this fascinating story ends.
The thing is, most people here are pretty reasonable with their criticism—nothing wrong with that. If you like the game, great, go ahead and praise the dev. If someone doesn’t, they have every right to criticize it. In the end, it’s Fujino’s decision and responsibility as the developer, and just like all of us, he has to live with the consequences of his choices.
 

Aniky Light

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The thing is, most people here are pretty reasonable with their criticism—nothing wrong with that. If you like the game, great, go ahead and praise the dev. If someone doesn’t, they have every right to criticize it. In the end, it’s Fujino’s decision and responsibility as the developer, and just like all of us, he has to live with the consequences of his choices.
criticism is useful, as long as it is constructive
 

mos555

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The thing is, most people here are pretty reasonable with their criticism—nothing wrong with that. If you like the game, great, go ahead and praise the dev. If someone doesn’t, they have every right to criticize it. In the end, it’s Fujino’s decision and responsibility as the developer, and just like all of us, he has to live with the consequences of his choices.
Hmm, I tried to explain to this man that Fujino, in fact, used the most cliched possible pattern of behavior of the NTR heroine for Asuna, and in response he began to tell me about the conservatism of Muslims and that white men fuck more often. So I think he's just a troll, there's no point in telling him anything.
 
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oozaru2023

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Personally I would like Fujino to receive suggestions on CG scenes and not on the plot or argument since the majority tends to want to instill their own tastes that can not be the same as the rest, the fact that he added 2 more scenes was what was expected since when Inoda and Asuna start fucking they don't stop until the next day. perhaps Fujino already spoiled what was coming without telling us what it was, for example the bathroom scene, it is normal that perhaps we do not see Liz or Suguha much since this is the hotel arc, perhaps they appear more in Fog but not in the real world. I hope he adds sex in the shower XD
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mos555

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Personally I would like Fujino to receive suggestions on CG scenes and not on the plot or argument since the majority tends to want to instill their own tastes that can not be the same as the rest, the fact that he added 2 more scenes was what was expected since when Inoda and Asuna start fucking they don't stop until the next day. perhaps Fujino already spoiled what was coming without telling us what it was, for example the bathroom scene, it is normal that perhaps we do not see Liz or Suguha much since this is the hotel arc, perhaps they appear more in Fog but not in the real world. I hope he adds sex in the shower XD
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Inoda and Asuna? Not Pignoda and Slutsuna? Brother, how are you? Are you okay?
 
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Personally I would like Fujino to receive suggestions on CG scenes and not on the plot or argument since the majority tends to want to instill their own tastes that can not be the same as the rest, the fact that he added 2 more scenes was what was expected since when Inoda and Asuna start fucking they don't stop until the next day. perhaps Fujino already spoiled what was coming without telling us what it was, for example the bathroom scene, it is normal that perhaps we do not see Liz or Suguha much since this is the hotel arc, perhaps they appear more in Fog but not in the real world. I hope he adds sex in the shower XD
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Yeah, i try not to comment too much because of it, to not fall intot he trap and start "suggesting".

As for stuff that has been spoiled, well this was from the perks but i think we will see some Oyakodon scenes later on, and threesomes. There is 1 more possible plot point revealed in them but i won't mention it for spoilers.
 

Aniky Light

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Personally I would like Fujino to receive suggestions on CG scenes and not on the plot or argument since the majority tends to want to instill their own tastes that can not be the same as the rest, the fact that he added 2 more scenes was what was expected since when Inoda and Asuna start fucking they don't stop until the next day. perhaps Fujino already spoiled what was coming without telling us what it was, for example the bathroom scene, it is normal that perhaps we do not see Liz or Suguha much since this is the hotel arc, perhaps they appear more in Fog but not in the real world. I hope he adds sex in the shower XD
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fog will go offline, then the rest will happen in irl
 

dakamuto

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It's worth remembering that Asuna and Inoda drank wine before sex, and this could become another excuse for Asuna. She won't admit that it was her slutty nature that allowed the fat guy to fuck her. Rather, she'll assume that Inoda slipped an aphrodisiac into her wine. For me, this scene feels unsaid because of the gap with the yoga scene with the butt plug.
 

Aniky Light

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a good ntr game must also have a good plot, if someone downloads the game just to jerk off and doesn't care about the story, then it's fine to go and watch the scenes on the internet, there are so many videos about Asuna ntr, what are you playing for if you're not interested, W button masher
Example: Asuna giving Inoda a blowjob.
to someone who isn't interested in the story: wow, she's sucking it, I don't know what happened and I don't care I just want to see this scene, oh what a drag with these conversations, we'd better press the W button *holds down the W button and after a while the game crashes*
AAAAAA shitty game as long as it crashes *then goes to the F95zone site* and asks: can someone give me the complete save? can someone give me all the complete CGs?
For those who care about the plot over the content: wow she's sucking it, ok, but I want to know why she's doing it, how did Inoda convince her, maybe I missed something *tries to search for the skipped conversation but finds nothing* here, another plot hole
 

Purp91

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a good ntr game must also have a good plot, if someone downloads the game just to jerk off and doesn't care about the story, then it's fine to go and watch the scenes on the internet, there are so many videos about Asuna ntr, what are you playing for if you're not interested, W button masher
Example: Asuna giving Inoda a blowjob.
to someone who isn't interested in the story: wow, she's sucking it, I don't know what happened and I don't care I just want to see this scene, oh what a drag with these conversations, we'd better press the W button *holds down the W button and after a while the game crashes*
AAAAAA shitty game as long as it crashes *then goes to the F95zone site* and asks: can someone give me the complete save? can someone give me all the complete CGs?
For those who care about the plot over the content: wow she's sucking it, ok, but I want to know why she's doing it, how did Inoda convince her, maybe I missed something *tries to search for the skipped conversation but finds nothing* here, another plot hole
Or the third option where you like both options and you realize that youre getting this content for free and you know that the creator is just one dude who gets grabbed from all directions on what to do. The story isn't the best but I'm not expecting 5 star levels of writing. You can sort of tell by now that fujino is wanting to be done with this game and is rushing to complete it the best that he can so he can either start something fresh or take a break from creating. I was a big fan of part one and loved the ideas of part 2 which was the main reason I stuck around. Criticisms are fine but I feel like fujino gets way to much flak sometimes
 
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After careful consideration, and since many people want me to add 1 or 2 scenes before AF in event of 7/12, I will spend some time to make that.
What does AF stands for? Anal Fuck?

If yes, that is by far my biggest complaint about last update. Yes, Inoda is mostly emotionally manipulating her, but Fujino is rushing it way too much, and making his whole buildup in these 2 games in vain.

The way inoda used those incense at the start of PART 2 is, at least for me, a correct way of making her submit. He is not good enough to corrupt her emotionally, and she is not weak enough to completely fall for it. So when I saw him giving her coffee in those snippets before the event, I was sure he was doing some underhanded stuff again, which would be expected of him. He even gave her the wine beforehand.

Also making her do the biggest NO NO so far, by just being pathetic and pleading her to have sex with him and she just saying "Sure lol" is again, diminishing the whole buildup he was working on for so long.

The scenes themselves were also rushed. Start of PART 2 scenes, and most of the in-game, pre January 2025 ones are so well done, that the only way he can drop ball a bit like this is if he is rushing end way too fast. December 2024 update was so good, but every single one after that was a bit of a letdown, to say it nicely.

I really hope he takes his time with next one, revisit last update a bit, give a bit more depth to the whole strategy Inoda was preparing, a bit more variety in scenes, as well as numbers of scenes. Make him trick her not only emotionally, but with aphrodisiacs as well, and use conflict of her 2 sides, "Asuna during sex" and "Everyday Asuna", to wear her down into submission.

Everything he did till now is really good, now he just needs to be patient and stick the landing.

Fujino-sensei please, just don't rush it.
 

EmaEiishi

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This string of arguments is hilarious. I came for a ntr game, played an ntr game and enjoyed a ntr game. Bonus points since i also hate Kirito and the years of garbo isekai anime he brought with him.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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Work kept me away but I just caught up with the latest report! Is funny that Fujino felt the need to clarify the differences between his game and the canon and he just made the vaguest of specifications about it, leaving out tons of other things way more relevant that are different between both universes, wonder if there were lots of people spamming him with questions about that in Ci-En XD? Also, wouldn't be a new week's progress report without some random stating how they're here because they hate Kirito, LMAO...but blaming him for the Isekai garbage era? That's beyond retarded, like, SAO is NOT an Isekai at all even if we stretch the definition and say that maybe the Alicization arc was something like it, lol, and despite how much the haters may be revolved by it SAO was one of the greatest anime successes of the past decade, with the novels even winning the LN of the Decade Award, comparing it to the forgettable seasonal garbage that nobody remembers past a couple of months is as hilarious as it's stupid XP

Hell, the mere fact SAO stays on the mind of its haters SO much nowadays that they keep actively hating it after over a decade is a testament of its popularity in itself, if it was as shitty and bad/forgetable as they want others to believe, they would have stopped hating it and moved on ages ago :D
 

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Work kept me away but I just caught up with the latest report! Is funny that Fujino felt the need to clarify the differences between his game and the canon and he just made the vaguest of specifications about it, leaving out tons of other things way more relevant that are different between both universes, wonder if there were lots of people spamming him with questions about that in Ci-En XD? Also, wouldn't be a new week's progress report without some random stating how they're here because they hate Kirito, LMAO...but blaming him for the Isekai garbage era? That's beyond retarded, like, SAO is NOT an Isekai at all even if we stretch the definition and say that maybe the Alicization arc was something like it, lol, and despite how much the haters may be revolved by it SAO was one of the greatest anime successes of the past decade, with the novels even winning the LN of the Decade Award, comparing it to the forgettable seasonal garbage that nobody remembers past a couple of months is as hilarious as it's stupid XP

Hell, the mere fact SAO stays on the mind of its haters SO much nowadays that they keep actively hating it after over a decade is a testament of its popularity in itself, if it was as shitty and bad/forgetable as they want others to believe, they would have stopped hating it and moved on ages ago :D
Unfortunately they are unable to remove this vice of hatred
 
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darkbatVX

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Okay, I get it. Ignore, the person is either drunk or some kind of inept attempt to engage in trolling. You can wait until the nonsense is over and the person goes to bed.
Oh, how amusing. So in your world, any perspective you can't comprehend must be coming from a drunkard?

If subtlety is lost on you, then my mistake—I'll spell it out plainly: Fuck nuance.



Hmm, I tried to explain to this man that Fujino, in fact, used the most cliched possible pattern of behavior of the NTR heroine for Asuna, and in response he began to tell me about the conservatism of Muslims and that white men fuck more often. So I think he's just a troll, there's no point in telling him anything.
What you dismiss as 'classic', others call timeless. I never claimed Fujino's writing is flawless—my exact word was “Most Japanese doujin works portray her as intellectually deficient, morally bankrupt and sexually obsessed. Compared to that, Fujino's Asuna actually feels like a real person with principles and boundaries.”. And I've witnessed similar scenarios firsthand. Your core criticism rings hollow because the 'flaws' you obsess over plague most NTR works. Sure, perfectly logical NTR games might exist—how many, though? Three? Five? When an issue is systemic, fairness demands either:

1. General critique of the genre, or

2. Measured tolerance.

Singling out Fujino while ignoring the broader context is as irrational as hating men for having penises. Criticism?



The thing is, most people here are pretty reasonable with their criticism—nothing wrong with that. If you like the game, great, go ahead and praise the dev. If someone doesn’t, they have every right to criticize it. In the end, it’s Fujino’s decision and responsibility as the developer, and just like all of us, he has to live with the consequences of his choices.
criticism is useful, as long as it is constructive
Anyone can criticize Fujino—whether it's constructive feedback or just trollish ranting. But critiques themselves can be counter-critiqued, which is what I'm doing now.

I admire Fujino. The trolls have clearly gotten to him. If you think his recent updates feel rushed (though I disagree), they're the reason. He’s probably exhausted, yet persists—not for himself, but for the fans awaiting closure.
 
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