This CG in versions 0.832 still doesn't appear... any idea how to fix it?
hello am stuck in 7/6 monday, when it says to go home, i was wondering if anybody has a save right after you go home, so I can pick up where I left off at. I dont want to replay the hospital y sao part again. thank you
Queen_Nothing
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Yeah, anyone paying attention knows this is a cornerstone of what makes her current personality. It was caused by her time with Suguo as Titania and Oberon, which we have seen is where he probably raped her in game until that version of SAO was ended by her father. Sugou actually went to jail for some of the things he did (though it's never specified what or why), and only just got released (it was a few updates back, we spy on him in the club with Sinon, I think).
drag0nf6y
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he didn't do shit to her in sao, fujino sensei already cleared it in the previous updates. and in canon he was killed brutally by kirigoat in game and was arrested irl, but he's still present in fujinoverse. i hope fujino sensei let kirigoat kill him again
For me, this honestly felt very karmic and a funny way to end him, honestly: Suguha WAS the most relevant girl plot-wise, but Sinon WAS the one he had screwed over way more by then canonically when it came to ruining their lives (Nevermind the other unnamed 98 girls he had fucked around before them) and one of the key points near the end of his relevance was how Suguha literally gave no shits about him, even as a sexual outlet she had just plain out stopped really getting off with him unless she was pretending he was her brother and she didn't care anymore what happened to him anymore now that he no longer had control over her nor did she need him for anything anymore. Hell, it unironically painted Suguha as more mature than Sinon, the former no longer gave a shit, the latter wasted who knows how many resources and how much money from the council's just to turn him into a girl out of revenge, Suguha only joined in screwing him over AFTER Sinon had already transformed him but mainly did so because it was part of the agreement for Shino to give her help XP
To be 100% fair, this was just an out of nowhere shitty excuse written for Fujino that even further diverges for Canon so there was another 'excuse' for Asuna's OOC behavior from the beginning rather than her just being affected by NTR logic, and even if it made sense, on top of her memories being basically repressed, Sugou/Oberon never really managed to fuck her before being stopped as far as Fujino himself confirmed (He really should just stop trying to retroactively justify stuff because it only creates more plot-holes than just handwaving them away, tbh, like how he suddenly felt the need of excusing why Silica wasn't appearing in the game and it just made an even bigger plot hole of why Kirito wouldn't have bothered contacting her or being worried about one of his few true friends from SAO lol).
I am probably dumb. The way I interpreted Fujino was that he was being sarcastic when he said Oberon never did anything with Asuna.
In part 1 Kirito dream of Asuna and Oberon.
Kirito sees a memory of Asuna and Oberon when he goes to find information on the council.
It is ambiguous if it is dream or reality but based the evidence of:
1. Memories found by Kirito
2. Asuna PTSD and repressed memories show in the medical paper
This show that Asuna and Oberon did more things together than initially revealed by Asuna. Which is a setup for the "She was a slut all along" trope.
drag0nf6y
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could be true, but fujino sensei said no. judging by how things are going on rn, it could be true. maybe he indeed was joking
4-kun
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Never thought it was meant to be sarcastic, tbh; but now that you mention it, I can see how someone might think that. Still, since the pigeon isn’t actually part of the game and just serves as a tool for the dev to communicate updates, its dialogue changes with every update and won’t remain in the game. Also, Fujino has confirmed on several other occasions that Asuna is exclusively for Inoda (and Kirito obviously) — dreams don’t count.
for me this trope has some problems
1) Asuna was raped, she was not a Slut
2) everything that happens in the game is just interaction with a character with the Mind break tag
as for me, let the main message be that Asuna is a hidden slut,
than just a shell with a Mind break after Oberon
mos555
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Indeed, it's easier to think that Asuna was originally a hypocritical slut, just hiding it. There are too many questions about this situation, all we know is literally 3-4 short cgs. How long had Asuna been in Sugo's captivity, maybe 2 weeks, maybe a year? Was Sugo using something for hypnosis, or was Asuna drowning in lust herself? Did the memory erasure do something to Asuna's personality, or did it just delete unnecessary memories? I doubt that Fujino will answer these questions, so it all looks like plot holes that are better left alone to avoid getting worse.
1. Suppose Asuna was sexually trained by Oberon. This would means she liked having sex even before meeting Inoda. Inoda just reignite a lust Asuna already had.
Continuing this supposition. How much Oberon sexually trained Asuna? If Asuna was sexually trained to the point of being completely infatuated with Oberon. Inoda would be cucking Kirito and Oberon haha.
If Asuna would regain her memories of the time spend with Oberon would she want to return to him?
2. Another supposition is that Asuna was prim and proper personality yet was sexually trained but just received light sexual torture from Oberon. This would Make Asuna sexually frustated for another person to be position take advantage of Asuna sexual frustation, Inoda takes advantage of Asuna in this case. This would make Asuna liking having sex but not to the point of wanting to return to Oberon.
This happen when a guy flirts with a woman. The woman feels aroused but it is another that ends up having sex with the woman
Supposition 2 is more likely because of the perks lists and there is only 1 chapter left. Althrough a lot of plots are waiting to be resolved in the final chapter.
4-kun
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I wonder if we’ll really get all the answers in the end; like why Sugou even hates Kirito in the first place, since it wasn’t Kirito who saved Asuna. And whether Sugou will find out about Inoda. Maybe the big twist is actually Inoda turning Sugou into the cuck instead of Kirito
I don't think we'll get anything, and it seems to me that even if we get some explanations why Asuna gave in to everything so easily, AT THE END OF THE GAME, it won't make the situation better, it's better to let everything be as it is.I wonder if we’ll really get all the answers in the end; like why Sugou even hates Kirito in the first place, since it wasn’t Kirito who saved Asuna. And whether Sugou will find out about Inoda. Maybe the big twist is actually Inoda turning Sugou into the cuck instead of Kirito
Well, why does Oberon hate Kirito. - HE FUCKS HIS GIRL, he said that in the game, I think nothing will change with that
mos555
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As far as I understand, the Council knows about everything that's going on around Kirito, so they probably know about Inoda. And if Sugo cooperates with someone from the Council, then he probably finds out about the Inoda or already knows. In an even more unexpected twist, Inoda is actually acting on orders from Sugo. Or Inoda is actually Sugo's secret son, they both wear glasses and they're both assholes with an inflated ego.I wonder if we’ll really get all the answers in the end; like why Sugou even hates Kirito in the first place, since it wasn’t Kirito who saved Asuna. And whether Sugou will find out about Inoda. Maybe the big twist is actually Inoda turning Sugou into the cuck instead of Kirito
mos555
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Sugo hates Kirito, just because Asuna is Kirito's girlfriend. All these relationships between Asuna's father, Sugo, Kirito, Asuna, Inoda are extremely badly written in the plot. In fact, Inoda and Sugo hate Kirito for only one reason - they want what they think belongs to him. At least it's a logical reason, a stupid one, but at least it doesn't create any holes in this story. Usually, the bully characters in NTR have no feelings for their opponent other than a sense of superiority, but this is some kind of Brazilian drama. Envy, hatred...I wonder if we’ll really get all the answers in the end; like why Sugou even hates Kirito in the first place, since it wasn’t Kirito who saved Asuna. And whether Sugou will find out about Inoda. Maybe the big twist is actually Inoda turning Sugou into the cuck instead of Kirito
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It’s actually interesting to think about how much Oberon and the Shadow Fox know about Inoda and Asuna. For example, there was that event where they used Alice under hypnosis to lure Kirito in and wait for Asuna to show up, in order to frame him. Oberon voiced that idea himself. I think he and the Shadow Fox are working together, but for their own goals, not on behalf of the Council as a whole.As far as I understand, the Council knows about everything that's going on around Kirito, so they probably know about Inoda. And if Sugo cooperates with someone from the Council, then he probably finds out about the Inoda or already knows. In an even more unexpected twist, Inoda is actually acting on orders from Sugo. Or Inoda is actually Sugo's secret son, they both wear glasses and they're both assholes with an inflated ego.
That might explain why they don’t have complete information. If they did, Oberon would likely try to frame or eliminate Inoda to get closer to Asuna, not just focus on Kirito. And how much the Council itself knows about these relationships is also unclear. We know that Sinon is aware of it from what Suguha told her, and Liz knows too. But among them, only Sinon has a direct connection to the Council, and it’s not certain if she’s shared this information. Personally, I don’t think she has.
Agil knew those two were planning something against Kirito, but that doesn’t necessarily mean he knows about Asuna’s involvement. So we end up with this funny situation: they’re trying to take Kirito down because of the myth of his perfect love with Asuna while totally unaware that she’s actually cheating on him with Inoda.