Aniky Light

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Quinella is in Kirito's head and that she wants to be reborn in one of the bodies of girls who are familiar with Kirito
What if Quinella needs the girl Kirito cares about the most? What if it's Suguha, since Kirito's feelings are moving in that direction?
 

Aniky Light

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I also think this game would have looked better if Fujino had made a kinetic novel on Unity or RenPy. He might even have done it much faster. Of course, I don't know if Fujino knows how to work with Unity, but RenPy is pretty easy to learn, much easier than RPGM. (y)
But RenPy seems to be click and read based like King of Summer, of course there is also the choice of text
 

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If you finish version 0.851 and see Asuna's final thoughts on Kirito and Inoda, as well as her description of her sexual experiences, you'll know she's far from reaching a completely depraved state.

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It's funny, so now Asuna doesn't remember that they got married in SAO? And she doesn't understand that before, she only met Inoda for the first time for a couple of months ago (and he told her that he was hiding on the first floor of Aincrad and always respected Asuna and Kirito for their strength, but didn't dare approach them, and now he is very grateful for the rescue and glad to meet), and now it turns out that her known Inoda for 4 years and she's been cheating on Kirito all this time. Or were the unnecessary memories "conveniently" gone from her head? How did her brain not burn out from such contradictions.
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Fujino didn't just do a soft retcon, he just threw some of the events of the first and second parts into the trash.
 

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It's funny, so now Asuna doesn't remember that they got married in SAO? And she doesn't understand that before, she only met Inoda for the first time for a couple of months ago (and he told her that he was hiding on the first floor of Aincrad and always respected Asuna and Kirito for their strength, but didn't dare approach them, and now he is very grateful for the rescue and glad to meet), and now it turns out that her known Inoda for 4 years and she's been cheating on Kirito all this time. Or were the unnecessary memories "conveniently" gone from her head? How did her brain not burn out from such contradictions.
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Fujino didn't just do a soft retcon, he just threw some of the events of the first and second parts into the trash.
I think you've put a lot more thought into this game than Fujino has :LOL: He just wants to make hot stuff happen, and you're the only one trying to make sense of everything!
 

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Well, I don't think the Administrator is such a useless character, considering that she is, in fact, the main antagonist of this story (not the plot of Asuna and Inoda, but the global plot). To this can be added her words and actions - she considers Kirito the Chosen One, wants to meet with him, erases his memory of things that he does not need to remember, gives gifts (of course, it is not yet clear what kind of gifts), gives advice. Kirito doesn't understand these tips, but maybe that's the Administrator's goal - to keep Kirito in the dark for now, but to show more "anxiety."

Brainwashing is too rude, I'd say she's guiding Kirito in the right direction. Considering that the theories that Quinella is in Kirito's head and that she wants to be reborn in one of the bodies of girls who are familiar with Kirito may turn out to be true, I don't think the Administrator is just falling apart.

Brother, of course I can't know exactly the role of Quinella in all this, but a character who just trolls Kirito (the player) after every game day is kind of shallow, flat
I never said she was useless just content to watch and not get involved. You were the one who said she brainwashing Kirito. You might think it is boring or flat that Administrator only trolls Kirito but that is the only thing Fujino can let her do without it breaking the game. She is just too powerful without being limited by herself. Also I am not sure she will be an antagonist since she won't be against Kirito. She might be just be a big bad doing her own thing. Even if she does win and goes into the real world, it is not known what she will do with the world.

I mean, the thing is that the "eyes" thing on the screen so far has ONLY appeared when you do-see Kirito-is-cheating scenes and choices, not for anywhere else, so I didn't think it was anything but something specifically related to Kirito taking notice of the other girls (Given there was even a scene of his dick suddenly tripling in size after thinking of the others when fucking Asuna with the same eye-effect, it felt like a natural connection to make XP), hence why I was asking if it was the same if you were on the 'loyal' Kirito route.
I know those "eyes" have only been used when Kirito is cheating but they have been around before Administrator gave her gift. Also the eyes before were open while Administrator gift was closed eyes. So I thought they were not related. Administrator's main powers seems to be see the truth so if she a power to Kirito then it makes sense it is let him see the truth. This would give Fujino a new way to let us see scenes too.

It's funny, so now Asuna doesn't remember that they got married in SAO? And she doesn't understand that before, she only met Inoda for the first time for a couple of months ago (and he told her that he was hiding on the first floor of Aincrad and always respected Asuna and Kirito for their strength, but didn't dare approach them, and now he is very grateful for the rescue and glad to meet), and now it turns out that her known Inoda for 4 years and she's been cheating on Kirito all this time. Or were the unnecessary memories "conveniently" gone from her head? How did her brain not burn out from such contradictions.
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Fujino didn't just do a soft retcon, he just threw some of the events of the first and second parts into the trash.
It is stated after Aincaid Asuna decided to separate from Inoda and be with Kirito. So her mind made the mental gymnastics that she pretended not to know Inoda when she met him at the beginning of Part 1 to keep the truth (lies from the revised memory) from Kirito.
 

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I think you've put a lot more thought into this game than Fujino has He just wants to make hot stuff happen, and you're the only one trying to make sense of everything!:LOL:
My hidden meaning search syndrome is to blame for everything. It's an old habit that makes me look for meaning in even the most meaningless things. Even if Fujino didn't think too much about the plot of this game, I'm happy to think for him. :ROFLMAO:
 

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I know those "eyes" have only been used when Kirito is cheating but they have been around before Administrator gave her gift. Also the eyes before were open while Administrator gift was closed eyes. So I thought they were not related. Administrator's main powers seems to be see the truth so if she a power to Kirito then it makes sense it is let him see the truth. This would give Fujino a new way to let us see scenes too.
Actually, no, double-check, the eyes HAVE opened, not every time but they have a few times that Kirito has thought about that stuff, like right before he just jumped Sugu :p
 

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Also I am not sure she will be an antagonist since she won't be against Kirito.
Well, we don't know exactly what she's planning to do with Kirito yet. She's the goddess of the Council, and the council needs a SEED in Kirito's head. Maybe Kirito will really become a vegetable after that. And we will see a scene where the Administrator in a new body comes to the hospital to Kirito, who is sitting by the window and staring at one point.

Administrator in new body - "Here we finally meet, Kirito..."
Kirito - "..."

And the funny thing is if she really takes Suguha's body and takes care of Kirito the vegetable in gratitude.

It is stated after Aincaid Asuna decided to separate from Inoda and be with Kirito. So her mind made the mental gymnastics that she pretended not to know Inoda when she met him at the beginning of Part 1 to keep the truth (lies from the revised memory) from Kirito.
"mental gymnastics" - It's too weak and lazy an explanation for all this.

Asuna should remember that she had her "first meeting" with Inoda 2 months ago and should remember that she met him in Aincrad 4 years ago, and there should be a break in time between them, in which there is no Inoda at all. Not just not, but not at all. She didn't break up temporarily, but there simply isn't such a person. If Kirito was bad at sex, then Asuna should have remembered Inoda anyway, but she couldn't do that because Inoda didn't exist for her.

Asuna should remember that a month and a half ago she accused Inoda of rape, but at the same time she remembers that Inoda has been her secret husband for 4 years.

Asuna should remember that 2 months ago, Inoda said that he doesn't have a girlfriend and no one loves him and asked her to pretend to be his girlfriend and take a photo, but she should remember that she has been his secret wife, lover, etc. for 4 years.

Such contradictions cannot be explained by "mental hymnatics". It's literally two sets of conflicting memories.
 
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Imagine Asuna's reaction. She wakes up at the 7/16 hotel, goes to the shower and indulges in thoughts in the shower:

"The memories of the last day are so good, we helped Yui and I remembered those hot times in Aincrad again, Kirito my husband was so strong, but his problem... It was good that Inoda, my secret husband, helped me to calm my lust. And then when Aincrad was over... what? Emptiness... I remember waking up in the hospital and then Kirito and I lived together for 2 years, went to school, but Inoda didn't exist at all... We went to the same school as him, but I can't... I can't remember him at all... There has been nothing about Inoda for two years and only 2 months ago we met him, but it's like we don't know each other. I didn't pretend, I really didn't know him... But how? And we started hanging out at school and playing FOG, but it was like we'd never known each other. And I wasn't pretending, I really didn't know him. How can this be? And all these events, sex... I resisted, as if I didn't know Inoda at all, I thought it was a rape... How come we've been playing SAO with Inoda for 2 years and he's been helping me with my lust for 2 years... What's happening? I only remember a few moments... Inoda's cum on bread... Next to the tree while Kirito was sleeping... And our first night in the Cabin, but where was he the rest of the time? Why is it that after that, Inoda doesn't seem to exist... God, what's wrong with me?"

And then Asuna's head explodes. Players at this time:
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Inoda who came into the bathroom at that time:
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What does Asuna mean by this?
I think, after her memories were altered, Asuna started seeing Inoda in a different light. She realized she couldn’t completely cut him off, so as long as her actions didn’t hurt Kirito, she’d let him get away with things.
 

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It's funny, so now Asuna doesn't remember that they got married in SAO? And she doesn't understand that before, she only met Inoda for the first time for a couple of months ago (and he told her that he was hiding on the first floor of Aincrad and always respected Asuna and Kirito for their strength, but didn't dare approach them, and now he is very grateful for the rescue and glad to meet), and now it turns out that her known Inoda for 4 years and she's been cheating on Kirito all this time. Or were the unnecessary memories "conveniently" gone from her head? How did her brain not burn out from such contradictions.

Fujino didn't just do a soft retcon, he just threw some of the events of the first and second parts into the trash.
I think Sugou's dialogue in the game explains your question perfectly.
I'm guessing you probably skipped over half of his lines.
 
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I think, after her memories were altered, Asuna started seeing Inoda in a different light. She realized she couldn’t completely cut him off, so as long as her actions didn’t hurt Kirito, she’d let him get away with things.
At this rate, Asuna would really like Kirito to become a willing cuckold. She will love Kirito, and will fuck Inoda and they will live happily ever after, like a Swedish family. :ROFLMAO:
But this is a temporary stage, because there is a perk that says - "feelings for Kirito... this feelings seems like a distant dream"
 

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No and the plugin's been update twice so the old limit is gone for the CG.
So that means the game can have as much CGs as Fujino wants now?

Actually, no, double-check, the eyes HAVE opened, not every time but they have a few times that Kirito has thought about that stuff, like right before he just jumped Sugu :p
Then I do hope Fujino is not going with Administrator helping Kirito by making him want to cheat. But I suppose after Fujino making Asuna needing to have a memory rewrite to love Inoda I should not be surprised if he makes Kirito wanting to cheat after Administrator's interference. A lot of hoops to jump through to make Kirito and Asuna want to be with other characters. Just saying.
 
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mos555

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Suddenly, for a second, Asuna was able to think clearly. Asuna has this behavior the whole game - she resists, but after a second she agrees. She draws clear conclusions, but after a second her brain shuts down. I don't think it's worth paying attention to. The ambivalence in Asuna's behavior is something that goes without saying. :unsure:
 

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I think the English translation might not fully capture Fujino's original intent, so I pulled the relevant content from the Chinese version of the data and re-translated it based on my understanding:

Sex Exp
CN: 7/15 和猪田重温在SAO的性爱。他的肉棒像有魔力,让我如痴如醉,真心实意地说出理智时绝不认可的淫语。羞愧自责,但又期待下次……
EN: July 15 – Relived that SAO-style lovemaking with Inoda. His cock felt almost magical, driving me wild—so much so that I moaned things I’d never say in my right mind. I’m ashamed… guilty… but I can’t help craving more.

Kirito
CN: SAO的战友。最初可能是因为报恩和责任心而和他恋爱,经过多年相处,早已真正爱上他,并视他为家人般的存在。深知他对自己的迷恋。只要他还需要,便会陪伴他到永远。
EN: A comrade from SAO. Initially, I may have fallen for him out of gratitude and a sense of duty, but after spending years together, I have genuinely come to love him and see him as family. I know how deeply he adores me. And as long as he needs me, I’ll stay by his side forever."

Inoda
CN: SAO最初的伙伴,也是相互用虚拟身体宣泄压力的对象。回归现实后,虽一度刻意保持距离,但仍发展为不伦关系。对他抱有愧疚。只要不伤害到桐人,会尽量满足他的要求。
EN: He was my very first partner in SAO and we used to vent our stresses with each other through our virtual bodies. After returning to the real world, we kept our distance at first, but things still spiraled into an affair. I carry guilt over it. So as long as we don’t hurt Kirito, I try to give him what he asks for.
 
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