RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[mos555]

I think Sugou's dialogue in the game explains your question perfectly.
I'm guessing you probably skipped over half of his lines.

Not that I missed it, maybe I didn't understand everything. Fujino has machine translation from Chinese to English, and I also translate into my own language using a streaming screen translator. Sometimes phrases turn into some kind of nonsense.

EN: He was my very first partner in SAO and we used to vent our stresses with each other through our virtual bodies. After returning to the real world, we kept our distance at first, but things still spiraled into an affair. I carry guilt over it. So as long as we don’t hurt Kirito, I try to give him what he asks for.

Hmm, is he the first partner? Or is she not even counting Kirito? Back in the real world, they kept their distance, but then it turned into an affair - how so? I don't understand this at all? Even if Asuna's memory was changed, she should not remember anything except 3 meetings in Aincrad - bread with spices, sleeping under a tree and sex in a hut on the 22nd floor. And then Asuna gets captured by Sugo, her father pulls her out, erases the memory of this event, and from 2024 to 2026 they live with Kirito, and there is no fucking Inoda. No him, no memories of him. And what kind of novel? Asuna thinks she met him for the first time in her life at FOG and later accused him of rape. What the hell kind of novel? How does it fit into her head at all? Fujino just took a whole piece of his own story, wiped his ass with it, and threw it in our faces.

 

[kinglionheart]

Not that I missed it, maybe I didn't understand everything. Fujino has machine translation from Chinese to English, and I also translate into my own language using a streaming screen translator. Sometimes phrases turn into some kind of nonsense.

Don't feel bad. Sugou's was full of jargon most people won't understand unless they spend time away from their flapping to think about it. Basically changing the subject's memories will cause the cause the subject to reorganize their existing memories to make the new memories fit. Unless the new memories are so different and outrageous that the subject can't fit in their existing memories then the subject's mind will break. So Asuna's memories sorted itself out to include Inoda.

 

[mos555]

Don't feel bad. Sugou's was full of jargon most people won't understand unless they spend time away from their flapping to think about it. Basically changing the subject's memories will cause the cause the subject to reorganize their existing memories to make the new memories fit. Unless the new memories are so different and outrageous that the subject can't fit in their existing memories then the subject's mind will break. So Asuna's memories sorted itself out to include Inoda.

In the movie "Inception" It was correctly said that if you want a person not to notice that an idea or thought has been planted in his head, it should lie as if it had always been there. A small part of the memories cannot change the rest of the memory. Human self-awareness will easily notice inconsistencies. This is despite the fact that only 3 small areas of Asuna's memory have changed.

Damn. I probably shouldn't be writing all this. Fujino, I suspect, just doesn't care about these conventions, only the end result that he wants is important....

But my words, that, in fact, Fujino wiped his ass with his own story, still seem right to me.

 

[Aniky Light]

I think, after her memories were altered, Asuna started seeing Inoda in a different light. She realized she couldn’t completely cut him off, so as long as her actions didn’t hurt Kirito, she’d let him get away with things.

And what will happen when Asuna realizes that she hurt Kirito?

 

[mos555]

And what will happen when Asuna realizes that she hurt Kirito?

She will probably have to choose who to stay with, but since she will probably already be pregnant with Inoda's child, she will stay with Inoda. Remember the perks. The development of the situation can be roughly traced there.

 

[darkbatVX]

Not that I missed it, maybe I didn't understand everything. Fujino has machine translation from Chinese to English, and I also translate into my own language using a streaming screen translator. Sometimes phrases turn into some kind of nonsense.



Hmm, is he the first partner? Or is she not even counting Kirito? Back in the real world, they kept their distance, but then it turned into an affair - how so? I don't understand this at all? Even if Asuna's memory was changed, she should not remember anything except 3 meetings in Aincrad - bread with spices, sleeping under a tree and sex in a hut on the 22nd floor. And then Asuna gets captured by Sugo, her father pulls her out, erases the memory of this event, and from 2024 to 2026 they live with Kirito, and there is no fucking Inoda. No him, no memories of him. And what kind of novel? Asuna thinks she met him for the first time in her life at FOG and later accused him of rape. What the hell kind of novel? How does it fit into her head at all? Fujino just took a whole piece of his own story, wiped his ass with it, and threw it in our faces.

Sugou's basically saying: tweak a few key memories, causing serious logic contradictions between past and present memories. To prevent the brain from collapsing, the mind rationalizes the plot. It's like the concept in Nolan's film "Inception."

The semen bread incident made Asuna believe Inoda was her first acquaintance, and she ate his semen to relieve stress, and from then on, they kept relieving stress by having handjob or blowjob with each other.

The memory modification regarding the "inner circle" incident made Asuna believe that: Inoda was actually the one who took her virginity, and that they then established a friends-with-benefits relationship. It also made her think that during her first time with Kirito later on, she actually went to Inoda to relieve her sexual urges. My take on this is: In the real timeline, Asuna's first time with Kirito was probably mostly satisfying. But because she had already been with Inoda, and then because of Kirito's deteriorating physical condition (there's a line about it in the first part), Kirito couldn't really satisfy her anymore. So, to try and recreate that initial satisfaction, her brain filled in the blanks by making her believe she went to Inoda.

Then Asuna started to think that even after falling for Kirito, she was still cheating on him with Inoda. And the sex in the 22nd-floor treehouse made her feel even more fallen). Even though she kept saying she loved Inoda the most during sex, I think that was just sex talk/babbling during arousal, and she hadn't actually gone that far yet in her true feelings.

Asuna's memory modification pretty much stops there. Her memories from when she returned to reality from SAO were not altered again. This creates a huge contradiction: Why would they be at the same school and have been so close, but then not interact for almost two years? Asuna's brain rationalized this memory by making her believe that she and Inoda deliberately kept their distance at first, until they met in the real timeline (Fujino's version). At that point, Asuna's memory self-modified to: "From then on, they finally couldn't resist and got back together."

As for what their relationship will be like on July 16th, we'll have our answer by the end of July, or August at the latest.

 

[darkbatVX]

And what will happen when Asuna realizes that she hurt Kirito?

Fujino wouldn't let that kind of situation happen. If it really did, I think she'd have a mental breakdown.

 

[mos555]

Sugou's basically saying: tweak a few key memories, causing serious logic contradictions between past and present memories. To prevent the brain from collapsing, the mind rationalizes the plot. It's like the concept in Nolan's film "Inception."

The semen bread incident made Asuna believe Inoda was her first acquaintance, and she ate his semen to relieve stress, and from then on, they kept relieving stress by having handjob or blowjob with each other.

The memory modification regarding the "inner circle" incident made Asuna believe that: Inoda was actually the one who took her virginity, and that they then established a friends-with-benefits relationship. It also made her think that during her first time with Kirito later on, she actually went to Inoda to relieve her sexual urges. My take on this is: In the real timeline, Asuna's first time with Kirito was probably mostly satisfying. But because she had already been with Inoda, and then because of Kirito's deteriorating physical condition (there's a line about it in the first part), Kirito couldn't really satisfy her anymore. So, to try and recreate that initial satisfaction, her brain filled in the blanks by making her believe she went to Inoda.

Then Asuna started to think that even after falling for Kirito, she was still cheating on him with Inoda. And the sex in the 22nd-floor treehouse made her feel even more fallen). Even though she kept saying she loved Inoda the most during sex, I think that was just sex talk/babbling during arousal, and she hadn't actually gone that far yet in her true feelings.

Asuna's memory modification pretty much stops there. Her memories from when she returned to reality from SAO were not altered again. This creates a huge contradiction: Why would they be at the same school and have been so close, but then not interact for almost two years? Asuna's brain rationalized this memory by making her believe that she and Inoda deliberately kept their distance at first, until they met in the real timeline (Fujino's version). At that point, Asuna's memory self-modified to: "From then on, they finally couldn't resist and got back together."

As for what their relationship will be like on July 16th, we'll have our answer by the end of July, or August at the latest.

Thanks for the explanation, the principle is clear. The whole situation, of course, has a huge number of exceptions, but apparently it doesn't matter.

Fujino wouldn't let that kind of situation happen. If it really did, I think she'd have a mental breakdown.

It's at the moment. But in the future, judging by the perks, Asuna will either stop worrying about hurting Kirito, or hurting him, she will decide that it's better to drop this relationship and break up.

 

[Aniky Light]

She will probably have to choose who to stay with, but since she will probably already be pregnant with Inoda's child, she will stay with Inoda. Remember the perks. The development of the situation can be roughly traced there.

I thought it was Kirito who had to choose, anyway, what should Asuna say to Kirito once she hurt him? although I don't understand why she should say something if nothing will change anyway, will still remain with fat guy

 

[Aniky Light]

Fujino wouldn't let that kind of situation happen. If it really did, I think she'd have a mental breakdown.

Fujino only shows us what he wants to see, but I want to see Asuna's mind break.

 

[mos555]

I thought it was Kirito who had to choose, anyway, what should Asuna say to Kirito once she hurt him? although I don't understand why she should say something if nothing will change anyway, will still remain with fat guy

Anyway, the breakup is inevitable, and Asuna has to justify it somehow. She is unlikely to tell the whole truth, I don't think that even with her level of hypocrisy, she will have the courage to tell Kirito the whole truth (only if it is in the end). Also, because of her hypocrisy, maybe she just won't understand that she's hurting Kirito. So the most likely scenario is that Asuna will simply ignore, what her is hurting Kirito, in the future, because Inoda will occupy her entire mind. Plus, there's also the 3rd level of the "cheating" perk, where she begins to enjoy cheating, so I think, you understand, that she won't care about Kirito's pain anymore.

 

[The Jailer]

No and the plugin's been update twice so the old limit is gone for the CG.

OH so he can go all the way with no limit now ? except for the all overall size of the game but in a ideal world if he wanted he can add another 100 cg now ?

That is a good mindset when playing parody games, especially porn games about existing franchises. You don't want to associate the parody with the canon or you won't have a good time.

And i plan on not watching SAO because of that game for me it's the best game on this website and i don't want to "tarnish" my vision of it with the real SAO it's a reverse effect for me lol (and i know SAO is good too)

 

[Aniky Light]

Anyway, the breakup is inevitable, and Asuna has to justify it somehow. She is unlikely to tell the whole truth, I don't think that even with her level of hypocrisy, she will have the courage to tell Kirito the whole truth (only if it is in the end). Also, because of her hypocrisy, maybe she just won't understand that she's hurting Kirito. So the most likely scenario is that Asuna will simply ignore, what her is hurting Kirito, in the future, because Inoda will occupy her entire mind. Plus, there's also the 3rd level of the "cheating" perk, where she begins to enjoy cheating, so I think, you understand, that she won't care about Kirito's pain anymore.
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If she doesn't care to see Kirito suffer, then what good is it to her? Kirito would become a dead weight that is useless, it would be funny to see Asuna trying to hurt Kirito but he he pretends nothing is happening and doesn't care about anything
Asuna: It turns me on to see Kirito suffer
Kirito: *whistles*
Asuna: How can he be so calm after all the bad things I've done to him? If Kirito doesn't suffer, there's no fun
Kirito: *he knows everything he's done but now all these things roll off him like oil*

 

[Aniky Light]

If the plugin has been updated, then Fujino has no more excuses.

 

[mos555]

If she doesn't care to see Kirito suffer, then what good is it to her? Kirito would become a dead weight that is useless, it would be funny to see Asuna trying to hurt Kirito but he he pretends nothing is happening and doesn't care about anything
Asuna: It turns me on to see Kirito suffer
Kirito: *whistles*
Asuna: How can he be so calm after all the bad things I've done to him? If Kirito doesn't suffer, there's no fun
Kirito: *he knows everything he's done but now all these things roll off him like oil*
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Well, again, judging by the perks (again they...) and the endings that Fujino came up with 2 years ago, Asuna does not want and will not make Kirito suffer consciously. Perhaps Inoda has such a goal, but I doubt it, because in his blog, and in many of his phrases, there is a desire to get rid of Kirito so that he does not interfere with them with Asuna.

So, I think at the end of the "willing cuckold," Asuna will most likely understand Kirito's desire, and because of past relationships, gratitude, and respect for Kirito, she will fulfill his fetish and force Inoda to comply. No matter how Inoda screams that "Asuna, you are my whore-slave," it is obvious that Asuna is morally much stronger than Inoda and can force him to do what she wants.

And in the ending of the "forgetful cuckold", Asuna will simply hide everything until the very end, as much as possible. Maybe it's even because she doesn't have the courage to destroy Kirito morally.

In short, I am sure that Asuna will never, consciously and of her own volition, hurt Kirito. Only by random actions or, conversely, by inaction.

 

[Infeno2.0]

About all this hodgepodge of mindbreak/control, brainwash and memory alteration, there's a possibility albeit small that Asuna was indeed cheating during the SAO event with someone maybe even Inoda, sounds far-fetched but what do we know so far.
We're assuming the new events as memory manipulation or inception right, but in the movie the "memory/Idea" is associate with others real memories/ideas to create context, the mind fill the gaps with real memories right.

So the problem is as far we know those real memories of Asuna cheating they never happened is just a fantasy of her mind and because of that the "Inception" wouldnt work, fake+fake and she would never believe.

All of the main characters in the story are survivors from SAO, most of them if not all according to the plot developed traumas and mental issues, ones more others less.

The idea is what if the affair indeed happened in the past, with Inoda or someone else and now her mind is associating these old events with the new ones because the inception her suppressed memories are coming back and we konw for a fact that she does have suppressed memories.

Remember the Hospital arc when we found Asuna's medical history, there over the SAO incident she was diagnosed with PTSD by sexual abuse and because of that she became a nymphomaniac very susceptible to sexual pleasure, and her dad blocked those memories to help her and if he did this to her who can garantee that he hadn't done the same with the other person as well, this way they would not come into contact ever again if they don't remember preventing further mental/reputation damaged for her.
If you think there's a bunch of weird things that happen with no plausible explanation, out of the blue Inoda's fixation over Asuna, his hate/envy of Kirito, how easy Asuna fell into his manipulations.

We assume Sugou was behind that, but few things don't match as we know the "affair/abuse" if happened was before Sugou showing up, Sugou didnt expend that much time with Asuna to do all those things and Fujino himself said that Sugou never fucked Asuna, even Kirito didn't had that much "action" with her either, but the only real thing we know is that the abuse/nympho thing it's real and she does have more sexual exeprience than she remember and she indeed was someone else cum dump during that time, the question is who is the bull.

 

[mos555]

I'm going to tell a story that happened to my best friend. It happened not so long ago. If you're not interested, you don't have to read it. A story about how stupid the reason for cheating can be.

Spoiler: Story

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In order not to be deleted as an offtop - #Asuna, #Inoda, #Fujino, #Brainwashing, #FujinoGiveKiritoHisBrainsBack

 

[SouthTurtle]

There are many people who dislike memory manipulation, so it's a shame that they chose this method.

In order to correct Yui's misleading information, Asuna has to have a relationship with Inoda in Yui's memories, but she acts passively due to ashamed and guilt, and she keeps failing to reconstruct her memories and keeps repeating the same scene.
In the end, it would have been better if, like when she got pregnant with Yui, Asuna freed herself, got into the role, and did something active and stimulating, and ended up falling more for Inoda and her guilt toward Kirito weakened.

I think it would be fun to include a scene where Kirito finds out, taking advantage of the fact that if he fails, no one will remember him.

If Asuna's corruption had been strengthened by repeating this structure dozens of times,

such as kissing in the first place,
caressing each other's genitals in the second place,
oral sex in the third place, and sex in the last place,
it would have been possible to use the same scenes and places without having to do things like memory manipulation, but that's too bad.

 

[Aniky Light]

I'm going to tell a story that happened to my best friend. It happened not so long ago. If you're not interested, you don't have to read it. A story about how stupid the reason for cheating can be.

Spoiler: Story

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In order not to be deleted as an offtop - #Asuna, #Inoda, #Fujino, #Brainwashing, #FujinoGiveKiritoHisBrainsBack

Asuna: I betrayed on Kirito because I was bored

 

[mos555]

Asuna: I betrayed on Kirito because I was bored

Partially, but the reason is really this - she is bored with sex with Kirito, and she found her outburst of emotions with Inoda.