Ultron64
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You guys are insane. This last update was the climax. "Ruined the NTR for me"
What the fuck are you guys talking about? THIS WAS THE NTR MOMENT. What follows is basically epilogue.
Fujino wrote a climax in which Inoda through his corruption of Asuna throughout the game so far was able to pervert her true love through lust. That's what NTR is all about. The convoluted plot allowed that symbolic perversion of true love to be shown to us as a literal perversion of her true love story. Sure, the logic for how it happens is convoluted, but just suspend your disbelief somewhat.
I thought this update was a triumph. By far the best work Fujino has done in the entire game. Instead of merely showing the corruption through dialogue, this time the corruption of Asuna drove the plot forward. It informed the sex scenes, thus making them far hotter than they had been the last couple of updates. What did you guys want? Some more hotel sex scenes with Asuna suddenly wearing her Aincrad outfit for some reason? Asuna expositing about how she can't go without Inoda's giant cock anymore? Because that's where the game was headed for the longest time. Instead Fujino comes up with an ingenious way to make the climax of her corruption shown to us rather than be exposited. He really stepped up the level of his writing IMO and for that he gets hated on? Does. Not. Compute.
That being said, if it didn't work for you, it didn't work for you. Reasonable men can disagree. I'm just amazed at the tone of the conversation here.
What the fuck are you guys talking about? THIS WAS THE NTR MOMENT. What follows is basically epilogue.
Fujino wrote a climax in which Inoda through his corruption of Asuna throughout the game so far was able to pervert her true love through lust. That's what NTR is all about. The convoluted plot allowed that symbolic perversion of true love to be shown to us as a literal perversion of her true love story. Sure, the logic for how it happens is convoluted, but just suspend your disbelief somewhat.
I thought this update was a triumph. By far the best work Fujino has done in the entire game. Instead of merely showing the corruption through dialogue, this time the corruption of Asuna drove the plot forward. It informed the sex scenes, thus making them far hotter than they had been the last couple of updates. What did you guys want? Some more hotel sex scenes with Asuna suddenly wearing her Aincrad outfit for some reason? Asuna expositing about how she can't go without Inoda's giant cock anymore? Because that's where the game was headed for the longest time. Instead Fujino comes up with an ingenious way to make the climax of her corruption shown to us rather than be exposited. He really stepped up the level of his writing IMO and for that he gets hated on? Does. Not. Compute.
That being said, if it didn't work for you, it didn't work for you. Reasonable men can disagree. I'm just amazed at the tone of the conversation here.
Aniky Light
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If most people don't agree, there must be a reason, I see that most people are disappointed by the change of plot and not because Fujino didn't finish their quarantine or the ass licking
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Ultron64
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The plot didn't change though. It had been clearly building towards this from the moment Inoda and Asuna conceived Yui in FOG. The fact that he made an Aincrad apartment map a couple of months ago shows he'd been thinking of doing this for a while IMO.
Honestly, I don't even understand the critique. "Changed the plot?" From what exactly? Some wacky idea you guys cooked up? I've yet to see any criticism that outlines any solid ideas for how her fall could have been executed better.
What I do agree on is that I hope for his next game he gets better at foreshadowing world building elements. If he had established the conception ritual needing a "memory reconstruction" stage for instance, it would have felt like less of an asspull. Even a simple line of dialogue would have sufficed to do that really. If he really only came up with this idea this month, which is possible, that does show he needs to make a more general long term outline before he starts a new game. I'm just not entirely sure that's the case.
Honestly, I don't even understand the critique. "Changed the plot?" From what exactly? Some wacky idea you guys cooked up? I've yet to see any criticism that outlines any solid ideas for how her fall could have been executed better.
What I do agree on is that I hope for his next game he gets better at foreshadowing world building elements. If he had established the conception ritual needing a "memory reconstruction" stage for instance, it would have felt like less of an asspull. Even a simple line of dialogue would have sufficed to do that really. If he really only came up with this idea this month, which is possible, that does show he needs to make a more general long term outline before he starts a new game. I'm just not entirely sure that's the case.
Except this isn't the climax of her corruption. Her memories got rewritten making her essentially an entirely different character. The epitome of corruption and NTR for most people is the fall so to speak. When the woman finally gives in to her own desires. All of the build up, seduction, and corruption of Asuna is completely moot with the rewrite. She is now mind controlled into believing she was always madly in love with Inoda making all the prior corruption pointless. I get that some people like the idea of mind control NTR but to call it ingenious is a bit of a stretch, especially since everything that came before it may as well have never happened.
We gotta praise Inoda for something, in a true showing of why NTR plots of existing series shouldn't be dragged out beyond a 20 pages doujin, he did the impossible: He NTR-ed Kirito so hard he somehow retroactively made all his NTR so far NOT be NTR because now Asuna genuinely thinks she has always been his slut and her relationship with Kirito was never worth shit in the first place XD
Ultron64
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I think you completely missed the point. Everything that came before made this possible, that's why it's the climax.
Asuna is now indeed a new character, but that's the result of the gradual corruption that's been happening throughout the game up to this point. We didn't literally travel back in time. How is her memories changing any different? She was already being mind controlled by NTR cock, that's kind of what NTR is.
Aniky Light
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There are 2 days left until the end of the quarantine at Asuna and Inoda's hotel.
There are still 10 CG slots left. I liked the CG in July 12, 13, 14 and 15 CG sex scenes. I like the mind-breaking, when a female character gives in to her mind and starts to fall in love with a man other than her boyfriend. As for the appearance of Fujino's version of Yui, I don't like her big breasts. The author could have made her a bit bigger.
I'm glad that the author is getting close to finishing the creation of the SAO II game. The plot is so average in SAO II, but SAO I was good in plot development, so I rate SAO I 8 and SAO II 7.0. Asuna became a whore and sexual submissive to Inoda, who is fat and has great stamina. In any case, the author Fujino's psyche burned out and because of the fans who criticized him negatively, some exaggerated too much.
There are still 10 CG slots left. I liked the CG in July 12, 13, 14 and 15 CG sex scenes. I like the mind-breaking, when a female character gives in to her mind and starts to fall in love with a man other than her boyfriend. As for the appearance of Fujino's version of Yui, I don't like her big breasts. The author could have made her a bit bigger.
I'm glad that the author is getting close to finishing the creation of the SAO II game. The plot is so average in SAO II, but SAO I was good in plot development, so I rate SAO I 8 and SAO II 7.0. Asuna became a whore and sexual submissive to Inoda, who is fat and has great stamina. In any case, the author Fujino's psyche burned out and because of the fans who criticized him negatively, some exaggerated too much.
mos555
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Inoda changed the cause-and-effect relationship and stepped on his own foot. He turned the NTR game into a Netori. Because now it turns out that Asuna has been cheating on Inoda with Kirito since Aincrad. Ahahah. Hey Kirito, well done!
I mean, this situation can be compared to a minefield. Fujino walked through the minefield slowly and carefully, avoiding all the mines. When he reached 85 percent, Fujino saw a path between the landmine, but the problem is that this path is covered with knee-deep cow shit. That's my association.
Fujino chose the easy way, but made all previous progress unnecessary. Asuna said a couple of updates ago that she had fallen in love with Inoda, now that Yui was born and Inoda was the father, Asuna could accept this and finally fall in love with him. It would be much more logical - Yui is born, Asuna finally falls in front of Inoda (sex without a condom, etc.) and agrees to be his secret wife, since they are Yui's parents. I would accept that. There was no need to change Asuna's memory. But Fujino chose the cow shit path.
Just think about it.
Previously - Asuna has been in love with Kirito since Aincrad's time and is ready to get married, but Inoda intervenes and corrupts and fucks her - this is NTR.
Now - Asuna has always loved Inoda and considered herself his wife, since the days of Aincrad, but she dated Kirito out of gratitude - this is not NTR.
It looks like a Netori from Kirito's side, lol.
I mean, what he wanted is 'obvious', he wanted a legit way to deal with Yui (Who singlehandedly should have ended Inoda's NTR plot by emerging) that didn't feel as casually retarded as just "Inoda fucked Asuna during the ritual so suddenly she forgets all her memories with Kirito and thinks of Inoda as her papa instead"...the issue is that he chose "Let's add Yui to Inoda's harem" as the 'solution', and then to make that 'believable' he cooked up the idiocy of this memory-rewriting stuff, while Asuna was clearly the main 'victim' this whole thing was clearly made mainly plot-wise to make YUI get fully corrupted and rewritten to prevent her from ending Fujino's NTR plot instantly XPInoda changed the cause-and-effect relationship and stepped on his own foot. He turned the NTR game into a Netori. Because now it turns out that Asuna has been cheating on Inoda with Kirito since Aincrad. Ahahah. Hey Kirito, well done!
I mean, this situation can be compared to a minefield. Fujino walked through the minefield slowly and carefully, avoiding all the mines. When he reached 85 percent, Fujino saw a path between the landmine, but the problem is that this path is covered with knee-deep cow shit. That's my association.
Fujino chose the easy way, but made all previous progress unnecessary. Asuna said a couple of updates ago that she had fallen in love with Inoda, now that Yui was born and Inoda was the father, Asuna could accept this and finally fall in love with him. It would be much more logical - Yui is born, Asuna finally falls in front of Inoda (sex without a condom, etc.) and agrees to be his secret wife, since they are Yui's parents. I would accept that. There was no need to change Asuna's memory. But Fujino chose the cow shit path.
Just think about it.
Previously - Asuna has been in love with Kirito since Aincrad's time and is ready to get married, but Inoda intervenes and corrupts and fucks her - this is NTR.
Now - Asuna has always loved Inoda and considered herself his wife, since the days of Aincrad, but she dated Kirito out of gratitude - this is not NTR.
It looks like a Netori from Kirito's side, lol.
mos555
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But Fujino could easily have made Inoda's actions change only Yui's memory. Why did he do the same to Asuna? Later, it would be possible to make a scene in which Asuna realizes that Yui calls Inoda the father and asks her to pretend and not give herself away in front of Kirito. I think Fujino just got tired of it and decided to put an end to Asuna's corruption. But he chose the wrong option, frankly.
The story got so overcomplicated that I am not sure what even is the desired goal. I am not that found of the main story to begin with, I believe the main story reached its peak with the treehouse arc.
At the same time, this update felt tiresome and short. I mean, we got some more Asuna scenes with a story arc that should have ended already. To be honest, I do not care about Yui as a character or her purpose in the story. It is too late to invest in her.
Asuna scenes were rather boring and bland. We saw them so many times that I am more inclined to skip them. And the whole backstory of Asuna and Kirito, just to squiz some more use of Asuna and Inoda scenes while dishing out walls of text explaining something that should not be even of importance for the game setting.
The tease for Sinon, Sugu and Alice is just lazy. I mean, why are we getting cliffhangers without proper setup. We are just getting informed that something is happening and it might be important. I was expecting some more follow up than just some dialogues and vague plan.
As for the other characters, Kyoko and Liz, were simply forgotten and with no impact on anything. Why were even added to begin with.
At the same time, this update felt tiresome and short. I mean, we got some more Asuna scenes with a story arc that should have ended already. To be honest, I do not care about Yui as a character or her purpose in the story. It is too late to invest in her.
Asuna scenes were rather boring and bland. We saw them so many times that I am more inclined to skip them. And the whole backstory of Asuna and Kirito, just to squiz some more use of Asuna and Inoda scenes while dishing out walls of text explaining something that should not be even of importance for the game setting.
The tease for Sinon, Sugu and Alice is just lazy. I mean, why are we getting cliffhangers without proper setup. We are just getting informed that something is happening and it might be important. I was expecting some more follow up than just some dialogues and vague plan.
As for the other characters, Kyoko and Liz, were simply forgotten and with no impact on anything. Why were even added to begin with.
mos555
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Now it turns out that Asuna has been cheating on Inoda with Kirito all this time.
I am more worried that it will happen with the other girls which would be a real cop out. Should've just continued from where the first part ended rather than the relationship reset if this is where we end up.But Fujino could easily have made Inoda's actions change only Yui's memory. Why did he do the same to Asuna? Later, it would be possible to make a scene in which Asuna realizes that Yui calls Inoda the father and asks her to pretend and not give herself away in front of Kirito. I think Fujino just got tired of it and decided to put an end to Asuna's corruption. But he chose the wrong option, frankly.