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Let me rephrase it properly—none of these girls love Inoda. Hell no. What they fell for was the way he rearranged their insides like a pro-level casting couch director. It's not romance—it’s muscle memory. Their brains say “ew,” but their hips keep showing up for auditions.

Inoda doesn’t need to talk sweet, bring flowers, or even fake basic decency. He skips all that and goes straight to imprinting himself on their bodies like a personalized fuck signature. Asuna’s not thinking about feelings anymore—her body just recognizes who owns the rhythm now. Kirito might try to slide in, and it’s like her pussy hits a pop-up: “Wrong user. Please re-insert Inoda.”

That’s the level we’re at.

So Kirito can pour his heart out all he wants, but the real battle’s already lost—physically. Inoda’s got the keys to her moans, her folds, her womb—and he even dropped off a child like it was a cum-stamped trophy. No flowers. No goodbye. Just "You're welcome."

Enjoy what’s left, Kirito. He already played the final scene. You’re just here for the awkward epilogue.
the girls I mentioned don't move their hips, because before moving their hips, they have to try first, none of them three have tried and for sure Suguha even if she tried it won't change anything, if it didn't work with Hebishima, what makes us believe it works with the pig who is less experienced than the blond one

even though this is a NTR game, still it all depends on the creator
 
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Kirito's RP is reduced if he fucked Asuna badly or made some mistake, and Inoda's points are added simply because he fucks Asuna well. At the same time, Asuna instantly notices Kirito's problems and mistakes, but never notices what Inoda is doing. She doesn't notice manipulation, blackmail, or even the fact that Inoda directly insults Kirito (800 points, she loves Kirito so much, why doesn't she stop Inoda?), she prefers not to notice or supports it.

But Fujino tells us, "look at RP in the statistics," but, firstly, they absolutely do not correspond to the situation, and secondly, they are calculated and reduced absolutely hypocritically and unfairly. Should I just look at the RP and not pay attention to what's going on in the game? This extremely stupid - is one element of statistics more important than the plot, events, and visual of the game?

Yes, that's what I was trying to communicate, but I failed completely in my attempt to be brief.

I've seen the numbers go up and down considerably during events like the ritual and when Asuna sees "Kirito" in the brothel.

I also meant that the next update could easily start with an event that significantly changes the numbers. So even if they were more accurate representations of the events, they would still be a bad example.
 

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Fujino is saying if Kirito and Asuna stays as an couple in an ending, Asuna will still continue to have sex with Inoda. Most likely he is talking about the Kirito does not find out ending we keep taking about.

Hope that was clear. (y)
So in the end, the "good ending" is just Kirito staying with Asuna while she keeps getting railed by Inoda on the side. Whether he finds out or not doesn’t even matter — either he's a clueless fool or a spineless cuck who smiles through the humiliation. Same outcome, different flavor of disgrace. We've seen this exact setup in a dozen other NTR games. Nothing new, just recycled misery with a slightly different coat of paint. I’ll go back to Henteria Chronicles 2 & 3 — at least those had the guts to make the betrayal hurt.
 

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well the rest of the comments I saw were not so much about Suguha's fear of NTR, but about another potential plot hole that will happen, since based on the positions we are in now, Suguha Inoda's NTR cannot be made logical.
this. If the plot leading to Suguha ntr was something done since the start or middle of part2, with organic decision, so be it. Nobody won't say a thing because it'll be logical to see her fall.
But after all this time and how Suguha is who she is now, trying to ntr when nothing has been build for that lead to a black hole of plot that you can only fill with method as memory alteration and some other lazy method (rape, drug...). Not very satisfying.
 
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even though this is a NTR game, still it all depends on the creator
Even though you're right that it all depends on the creator, there doesn’t seem to be much suspense left here. Based on what some members are saying—and what Fujino himself apparently confirmed—the ending will just be more of the same: either Kirito gets cucked behind his back, or he becomes a happy cuck who never leaves Asuna.

Either way, it’s another recycled NTR scenario with no real twist, no originality, just the same tired formula. When are we finally going to get something fresh and interesting in this genre?

I’m going back to Henteria Chronicle and searching for something that actually tries to be bold or different. This one’s just more of the same.

FUJINO confirmed the epilogue as I understand it, and this upsets me a little since there will be a canonical ending, I don't like this in games with a choice at the end/ ....sad/
Go on, make me dream — what’s the big final choice? Oblivious cuck or happy cuck? Yeah, hard pass.

At this point, I’d rather have a fake-ass choice like at the start of the game, where it asks if you’re okay helping Inoda — and no matter what you pick, you’re stuck dragging that parasite around anyway. At least then, you can’t pretend you had a say. They never gave us the option to cut that leech loose — we were screwed from the start.
 

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I've seen the numbers go up and down considerably during events like the ritual and when Asuna sees "Kirito" in the brothel.
That scene honestly gives off the same energy as Dark Hero Party — you know, when Lothia sees Imos walk into the brothel, and the head hooker lets her think he’s there to fuck someone. And boom—next scene, she’s throwing herself at Trash like it’s her destiny.

Are we really about to get a bootleg DHP moment in NTR Online too? All we need now is Kirito snapping, murdering Inoda, and Asuna going full berserk mode and throwing hands in some dramatic, out-of-nowhere final fight.

If it ends like that, I won’t even be shocked — I’ll just laugh. It’d be the most brain-dead, copy-paste twist possible. But let’s be real: with the way this game’s been going, it tracks. We’re heading straight into either “oblivious cuck Kirito” or “happy cuck Kirito” territory, like those are supposed to be satisfying endings.

At this point, it feels like they wrapped up a rotten sandwich in shiny foil and tried to sell it as gourmet. Same old shit, new packaging.
I’d love to be wrong and actually enjoy the ending… but if it sticks to this route, I’ll gladly flush it and move on.
 
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Even though you're right that it all depends on the creator, there doesn’t seem to be much suspense left here. Based on what some members are saying—and what Fujino himself apparently confirmed—the ending will just be more of the same: either Kirito gets cucked behind his back, or he becomes a happy cuck who never leaves Asuna.

Either way, it’s another recycled NTR scenario with no real twist, no originality, just the same tired formula. When are we finally going to get something fresh and interesting in this genre?

I’m going back to Henteria Chronicle and searching for something that actually tries to be bold or different. This one’s just more of the same.
there will also be a third ending, we don't know what it is yet, but I hope it's not the worst of 1 and 2, I hope that in the third ending Kirito finds out everything and gets pissed off, transforming into Gleam Eyes and smashes everything and everyone
 
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At this point, I’m starting to think Fujino didn’t just write an NTR game—he NTR’d his own fanbase.

We came in thinking we were getting a twisted love triangle or a morally complex NTR plot, and instead, he’s out here memory-fucking the canon and gaslighting us like we're the side characters. “The impact is far less than you assume”? Bro, Asuna’s entire timeline and emotional development got rewritten like a cheap doujin plot—and we’re supposed to just nod and go, “Yeah okay, that’s fine”?

Nah. This isn't just character betrayal anymore, it's narrative cucking. We’re watching the relationship we knew get gutted, replaced with some dollar-store rewrite where Inoda is retroactively inserted into the emotional foundation like he’s been there all along—while Kirito’s role gets quietly shoved into “plan B.” Fujino didn’t just NTR Kirito. He NTR’d us.

Next patch preview: “We assure you, the story remains unchanged—except everything that mattered.”
Well, that's basically it, Fujino has a core of fans who play all of his games, and popular franchises are a way to get as many SAO and Fate fans as possible who will pay money and who will stay with him, even after the game is over. It is unlikely that when choosing SAO for the next game, he planned to respect the creativity of others, and it is unlikely that he thought how to please the fans of SAO.

Personally, I accidentally discovered the game "Sword Art Online".: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic" and since I like SAO and I'm not averse to game the NTR genre. The first part was relatively easy, as is no corruption or plot, just a set of consecutive scenes. But the second part surprised me with its dramatic beginning, the rape, Asuna, who has lost a lot of intelligence and has become more hypocritical and deceitful, and her strange behavior - she agrees to provide sexual services to the rapist once a week. Kirito turned from an observer into a participant in the plot, but at the same time he did not cease to be a dusty bedside table in the corner. Inoda, whose word has become law, and whose psychopathism and arrogance have reached a new level. But then I didn't pay enough attention to it. Too bad. Maybe it would be easier to forget about this game.

In fact, Fujino took SAO, added his original character, and began systematically destroying everything good that could be in this game - a smooth plotline, interesting characters, competent development of relationships, and gradual corruption.

And so that Inoda doesn't feel like a flat character, just NTR bully, Fujino, with a snap of his fingers, adds Inoda's backstory right from from the time of Aincrad(In Asuna's head, but since Asuna is the main acting character and the main goal of NTR, this is enough to bring Inoda to a new level without unnecessary effort). And now Inoda is a character who has always been in the SAO world and has always been involved in Asuna and Kirito's relationship.

Asuna has known Inoda for 2 months - BOOOM!!! - Asuna has known Inoda for 4 years.

All this really looks like a mockery of the players. And then Fujino says that the impact is not so great, everything, in fact, will remain as it was. Only Inoda suddenly transformed from the person Asuna had met 2 months ago into a man who has been directly involved in Asuna's life for 4 years. And Asuna herself, from a whore who, after a couple of months of dating Inoda, jumps on a dick, turns into a girl who has finally waited for her true love of her life - Inoda. And only Kirito remained a bedside table, but there was more dust.

800 points is love, and 650 points is what? Almost love? Is this an NTR or a drama about a woman who can't decide who she loves, her first partner Inoda or the man who replaced Inoda for 2 years - Kirito? Or does it not matter how many points, the main thing is who has more? So when Inoda has 701 and Kirito has 700, will Asuna immediately stop loving Kirito and fall in love with Inoda? Is that how it works?

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I haven't played the new update yet.
But I've been reading the comments.

I wish the memory manipulation had brought some doubt to Asuna's mind.
So far, Asuna has had sex with Inoda without any real consequences.
Her only risk has been losing her love for Kirito, but having a daughter with Inoda and having her memories manipulated are consequences of that.
Losing love for someone or something is different from losing/altering your memories, and consequently, yourself.

That could have caused Asuna to connect the incorrect memories with the events that actually happened and realize what's happen. That would give Asuna one last real chance to change once she realized the consequences.

As a climax before the ending, there will be an event between Asuna and Inoda that would mark the final acceptance or rejection.
The side girls will have their own small events.

And finally, the ending would contain the consequences of what happened during those events, leaving a grand finale: Asuna/Inoda, Inoda/Liz, Inoda/Asuna/Liz, or any possible combination of characters available.
The epilogue could serve to reveal the canon ending and the consequences later.

I feel like such an ending would maintain the feeling of not having control over the situation since it would be the girls primarily choosing their destiny, but it would also make it feel like the decisions made during the game weren't completely false.

But all of this means wrapping up all of the side girls' stories at the same time as the main one, and ensuring they have reasons to be present at that final event. all the animations needed for the grand finale and variations.
And the story's direction seems to make it impossible.

It's hard to believe that this will happen, but it's worth thinking that the game could have a great ending.
 

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Fujino now wants to create several endings, not just two like previously expected.
That means Kirito might actually get a more neutral ending with one of the girls.
As for Asuna, it’s been known for a while now that there are only two routes for her, and both are bad endings.
It’s also interesting to consider what Fujino defines as “sexual relationships.”
Can Liz’s rape even be called that? Or will he manage to take control of Sugu once, only for her to break free later, and he ends up with nothing? :unsure:
 
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Even though you're right that it all depends on the creator, there doesn’t seem to be much suspense left here. Based on what some members are saying—and what Fujino himself apparently confirmed—the ending will just be more of the same: either Kirito gets cucked behind his back, or he becomes a happy cuck who never leaves Asuna.

Either way, it’s another recycled NTR scenario with no real twist, no originality, just the same tired formula. When are we finally going to get something fresh and interesting in this genre?

I’m going back to Henteria Chronicle and searching for something that actually tries to be bold or different. This one’s just more of the same.



Go on, make me dream — what’s the big final choice? Oblivious cuck or happy cuck? Yeah, hard pass.

At this point, I’d rather have a fake-ass choice like at the start of the game, where it asks if you’re okay helping Inoda — and no matter what you pick, you’re stuck dragging that parasite around anyway. At least then, you can’t pretend you had a say. They never gave us the option to cut that leech loose — we were screwed from the start.
That scene honestly gives off the same energy as Dark Hero Party — you know, when Lothia sees Imos walk into the brothel, and the head hooker lets her think he’s there to fuck someone. And boom—next scene, she’s throwing herself at Trash like it’s her destiny.

Are we really about to get a bootleg DHP moment in NTR Online too? All we need now is Kirito snapping, murdering Inoda, and Asuna going full berserk mode and throwing hands in some dramatic, out-of-nowhere final fight.

If it ends like that, I won’t even be shocked — I’ll just laugh. It’d be the most brain-dead, copy-paste twist possible. But let’s be real: with the way this game’s been going, it tracks. We’re heading straight into either “oblivious cuck Kirito” or “happy cuck Kirito” territory, like those are supposed to be satisfying endings.

At this point, it feels like they wrapped up a rotten sandwich in shiny foil and tried to sell it as gourmet. Same old shit, new packaging.
I’d love to be wrong and actually enjoy the ending… but if it sticks to this route, I’ll gladly flush it and move on.
my message was more related to the game in general and not specifically to this game.
by the way, I also wrote that Fujino could have made an extra ending where Kirito rejects Inoda at the beginning and 1-2cgs where Kirito happily fucks Asuna, I think part of the audience would have been happy about that (I don't care)
Well, if I'm not mistaken, Fujino wrote about 3 endings, so this 3rd ending could potentially be interesting in the context of the NTR game. (but I highly doubt it)
Well, this game initially didn't offer anything unique, so I don't think you can expect anything amazing from it.
 
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Well, that's basically it, Fujino has a core of fans who play all of his games, and popular franchises are a way to get as many SAO and Fate fans as possible who will pay money and who will stay with him, even after the game is over. It is unlikely that when choosing SAO for the next game, he planned to respect the creativity of others, and it is unlikely that he thought how to please the fans of SAO.

Personally, I accidentally discovered the game "Sword Art Online".: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic" and since I like SAO and I'm not averse to game the NTR genre. The first part was relatively easy, as is no corruption or plot, just a set of consecutive scenes. But the second part surprised me with its dramatic beginning, the rape, Asuna, who has lost a lot of intelligence and has become more hypocritical and deceitful, and her strange behavior - she agrees to provide sexual services to the rapist once a week. Kirito turned from an observer into a participant in the plot, but at the same time he did not cease to be a dusty bedside table in the corner. Inoda, whose word has become law, and whose psychopathism and arrogance have reached a new level. But then I didn't pay enough attention to it. Too bad. Maybe it would be easier to forget about this game.

In fact, Fujino took SAO, added his original character, and began systematically destroying everything good that could be in this game - a smooth plotline, interesting characters, competent development of relationships, and gradual corruption.

And so that Inoda doesn't feel like a flat character, just NTR bully, Fujino, with a snap of his fingers, adds Inoda's backstory right from from the time of Aincrad(In Asuna's head, but since Asuna is the main acting character and the main goal of NTR, this is enough to bring Inoda to a new level without unnecessary effort). And now Inoda is a character who has always been in the SAO world and has always been involved in Asuna and Kirito's relationship.

Asuna has known Inoda for 2 months - BOOOM!!! - Asuna has known Inoda for 4 years.

All this really looks like a mockery of the players. And then Fujino says that the impact is not so great, everything, in fact, will remain as it was. Only Inoda suddenly transformed from the person Asuna had met 2 months ago into a man who has been directly involved in Asuna's life for 4 years. And Asuna herself, from a whore who, after a couple of months of dating Inoda, jumps on a dick, turns into a girl who has finally waited for her true love of her life - Inoda. And only Kirito remained a bedside table, but there was more dust.

800 points is love, and 650 points is what? Almost love? Is this an NTR or a drama about a woman who can't decide who she loves, her first partner Inoda or the man who replaced Inoda for 2 years - Kirito? Or does it not matter how many points, the main thing is who has more? So when Inoda has 701 and Kirito has 700, will Asuna immediately stop loving Kirito and fall in love with Inoda? Is that how it works?

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in general I agree.
But I just don't understand rape, does it apply to Asuna?
as for me, real rape was only with Liz, Asuna even says herself that she wasn't against it, she just pretended and wanted Inoda to take her.
 
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Yes, that's what I was trying to communicate, but I failed completely in my attempt to be brief.

I've seen the numbers go up and down considerably during events like the ritual and when Asuna sees "Kirito" in the brothel.

I also meant that the next update could easily start with an event that significantly changes the numbers. So even if they were more accurate representations of the events, they would still be a bad example.
As far as I remember, 110 points were deducted for Asuna seeing Kirito in a brothel, and later, in the FOG,Kirito base scene, 70 points were deducted for bad sex. 110 - cheating... 70 - bad sex... hmm.... What's going on in Asuna's head anyway, and how does it work?
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Fujino now wants to create several endings, not just two like previously expected.
That means Kirito might actually get a more neutral ending with one of the girls.
As for Asuna, it’s been known for a while now that there are only two routes for her, and both are bad endings.
It’s also interesting to consider what Fujino defines as “sexual relationships.”
Can Liz’s rape even be called that? Or will he manage to take control of Sugu once, only for her to break free later, and he ends up with nothing? :unsure:
I'm 99% sure that Asuna will stay with Inoda,
BUT WHY does Fujino use the word LIKELY, well maybe he's just trolling.
earlier in QA he also wrote similar formulations and now Suguha will be under some kind of threat.
so maybe he will surprise everyone and Asuna will not stay with Inoda (but I highly doubt it myself)
 
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As far as I remember, 110 points were deducted for Asuna seeing Kirito in a brothel, and later, in the FOG,Kirito base scene, 70 points were deducted for bad sex. 110 - cheating... 70 - bad sex... hmm.... What's going on in Asuna's head anyway, and how does it work?
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Well, it's more likely that it's in Fujino's head, since he believes in these numbers and considers them a good explanation for what's happening.
 
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in general I agree.
But I just don't understand rape, does it apply to Asuna?
as for me, real rape was only with Liz, Asuna even says herself that she wasn't against it, she just pretended and wanted Inoda to take her.
At the beginning of the second part, after a soft reboot, the rainy night scene changed and Asuna said that Inoda had raped her, she wanted to go to the police, but when Inoda pretended to be pitiful, she forgave him. It wasn't until later that I realized what kind of bullshit that was...

Fujino's talent for plot writing and character writing is immediately noticeable.
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The fact that Asuna said later that she just imagined it, it was probably some kind of step that was needed to fix how stupid it looked.
 

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In this week "Q&A with Fujino" we didn't get that many news but a few insights are worth to note.

After all the drama a couple months ago, about development time and overwork Fujino go back to his usual 30 days crunch, let's see how he holds from now on, in this case i wonder if was really overwork or just the crictics he got and funnily enough this also happen when the limitations on the RPGM are over.

Clearly Fujino got "scared" over the backlash about the memory manipulation fiasco, although i always think over these "manipulations" more as a plot convinience, because Fujino run out of excuses to make Asuna open to new sex variations which were, Group sex (harem), pregnancy, and be full time Sefure (secret wife), his idea was decent but the execution well....

Sugu and Inoda is open for debate. but he is at least considering something, here is 50/50, like i've said in other post, Fujino indeed left a plot device for this scenario, within the hospital arc and Liz rape knowing Fujino is possible he will compromisse to please both sides, the ones for it and the ones against Inoda/Sugu, he will fuck her but she will not be NTRed by Inoda, more or less like Hebishima fuck her without breaking her.

Yui will be OP like in the canon and will be by Inoda side, we had a small glimpsy of that in the last update, Inoda's cheat powers didn't work on her which will hold true for probably all characters with cheat powers Sugu, Sinon and so on., and she will be very important in his confrontation against the council as well if this really happen.

And lastly, Fujino once again talk about a epilogue, which is the aftermatch for the endings, here this sounds like bad news for Kirito fans he will be probably reckt by any ending you choose and to soften the blow Fujino will put a time lapse epilogue where he will be more or less ok or Asuna/Inoda and the others will be fucked, because there's no reason to do a epilogue if they end up togheter and Kirito as a happy cuck, what's Fujino will show Kirito's in the cuck chair jerking off while Inoda is fucking Sugu's Ass and at the same time receiving a rimjob from a pregnant Asuna.
 
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Well, it's more likely that it's in Fujino's head, since he believes in these numbers and considers them a good explanation for what's happening.
Rather, he's trying to convince us that we should believe in numbers, since he can't visually show Asuna's love for Kirito. What the hell kind of love is there if all she does is fuck Inoda and humiliate Kirito during it.

Fujino - "Numbers, believe in numbers! I'm not crazy! The Numbers are to blame for everything!"
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