RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[Gu Changge]

someone has the compressed version for part 1 and part 2, i need it please

 

[900bs]

Perhaps Fujino had planned for Kirito to be able to partially see through Inoda's invisibility, but only shadows or blurred images. But it seems he changed his mind, because it's too complicated and there are a lot of different variations of scenes to do.
And Kirito should be suspicious at such times, because it's very strange -

"The three of us are here. Me, Asuna, and Inoda. If I'm standing here, who's Inoda fucking in that shadow.... Hmm, where's Asuna?"

Another plot element that Fujino threw out due to lazy writing. Apparently, a silent, blind, deaf camera on legs (Kirito) is what Fujino needs.

In any case, it's not relevant anymore, all the main action should now be moving to irl.

I don't remember what the observation thing was, but I do remember during one of the battle updates that Kirito gets an upgrade where his observation and skills are better against the opponent/enemies. The trade off though was that he would be less aware of his surroundings, so y'know, Inoda gets even more freedom to bang Asuna.

Yes, I remembered that too, there were two or three quests there for which he received skills.

 

[erokinng]

I’m confused because Asuna agrees to unprotected sex with that pig too quickly.

Wait, what? He's spent months trying to get her to let him hit it raw and she only just now gave in after she had her memory altered so she thought she's been fucking him for years.

Okay... I get it that the writing for this game isn't great. But people here straight up making shit up to try to drag the writing. Like, you have so many real criticism you can use. Just use those.

 

[oozaru2023]

In clearer terms, what INODA did to Asuna was add false memories to her subconscious within FOG, as if you added hidden lines to a programming that do not affect the real story that much, but over time she assimilates it as such and takes it as something that did happen even if it was not. That is why her current behavior is not so much a brainwashing since in that case she would not look for Cukito again, also she remembers very well what she did with INODA before so it is a progression of corruption, what I do think can happen is that she is thinking that everything she did in both parts one and two is because they were a couple before and with Cuckito after. I think Fujino even already spoiled us a year ago what would happen starting next week XD

 

[Reven23]

The update ends when Kirito tries to call Asuna before the apartment stairs, right? Not gonna waste my time backreading.

 

[RavensTear01]

In clearer terms, what INODA did to Asuna was add false memories to her subconscious within FOG, as if you added hidden lines to a programming that do not affect the real story that much, but over time she assimilates it as such and takes it as something that did happen even if it was not. That is why her current behavior is not so much a brainwashing since in that case she would not look for Cukito again, also she remembers very well what she did with INODA before so it is a progression of corruption, what I do think can happen is that she is thinking that everything she did in both parts one and two is because they were a couple before and with Cuckito after. I think Fujino even already spoiled us a year ago what would happen starting next week XD
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Actually, a fun thing is that we don't know who altered Asuna's memories of SAO. Because after the 'first night', just when they are about to go through the portal, Inoda suggests that Asuna tell Kirito to sleep so they can fool around and Asuna firmly says No and that it would be impossible... yet, at the next memory, she does it. And even Inoda is confused when she does, but she just says that they have to 'follow the script'. So who wrote this script? Yui? Admin? Or is it just a translation error? Either way, it wasn't Inoda. He added the earlier false memories (The cream on the bread, the first night) but when stuff was getting real heavy between them, a script was already written according to Asuna and she was just following it.

 

[SORM1158]

Wait, what? He's spent months trying to get her to let him hit it raw and she only just now gave in after she had her memory altered so she thought she's been fucking him for years.

Okay... I get it that the writing for this game isn't great. But people here straight up making shit up to try to drag the writing. Like, you have so many real criticism you can use. Just use those.

Maybe I didn't express myself clearly enough. What I meant is that in the scene where she agrees to raw sex, there should be a detailed or descriptive chapter to build up the long-awaited raw sex plot to its climax. But instead, it just hastily has them looking for birth control pills in the convenience store, and then she agrees to raw sex through some dialogue, which left me utterly shocked. A plot that could get all you players rock hard down there...

 

[JohnTen]

Actually, a fun thing is that we don't know who altered Asuna's memories of SAO. Because after the 'first night', just when they are about to go through the portal, Inoda suggests that Asuna tell Kirito to sleep so they can fool around and Asuna firmly says No and that it would be impossible... yet, at the next memory, she does it. And even Inoda is confused when she does, but she just says that they have to 'follow the script'. So who wrote this script? Yui? Admin? Or is it just a translation error? Either way, it wasn't Inoda. He added the earlier false memories (The cream on the bread, the first night) but when stuff was getting real heavy between them, a script was already written according to Asuna and she was just following it.

What if the script is just an excuse for her to feel better about it? Bitch is obviously a hoe thirsting for that BIC (Big Inoda's cock).

 

[gaka200]

Actually, a fun thing is that we don't know who altered Asuna's memories of SAO. Because after the 'first night', just when they are about to go through the portal, Inoda suggests that Asuna tell Kirito to sleep so they can fool around and Asuna firmly says No and that it would be impossible... yet, at the next memory, she does it. And even Inoda is confused when she does, but she just says that they have to 'follow the script'. So who wrote this script? Yui? Admin? Or is it just a translation error? Either way, it wasn't Inoda. He added the earlier false memories (The cream on the bread, the first night) but when stuff was getting real heavy between them, a script was already written according to Asuna and she was just following it.

It's explained that when the memories are altered, there's going to be a lot of blanks or holes that the person themselves will subconsciously fill it up themselves with what sounds like the most likely/rational thing they think happened. So if Inoda is banging Asuna in SAO, her brain fills in the blanks and makes the conclusion that it must be because Inoda was always trying to get close to her in the SAO days.

This is why there's 4 places they "re-enact" the memories. Inoda interrupts the 1st memory, which ends up altering Asuna's interpretation on when she met Inoda. It's some weird mish mash of up-to-date Asuna just going along with Inoda's sexual requests, and because she keeps letting him get away with it at each scene, it alters what she initially remembered happening at the time.

TL;DR
Asuna's brain is trying to justify why the hell Inoda would even be with her in the SAO days. Inoda himself had no clue he was altering Asuna's memories at all.

Wait, what? He's spent months trying to get her to let him hit it raw and she only just now gave in after she had her memory altered so she thought she's been fucking him for years.

Okay... I get it that the writing for this game isn't great. But people here straight up making shit up to try to drag the writing. Like, you have so many real criticism you can use. Just use those.

I think the game being updated monthly has screwed up some people's perception of the game at times. It's been about 2 years since Part 2 started, and it's a little hilarious people are talking about how things are going so fast with Asuna, when a year ago, people couldn't stop complaining about how slow the development is.

 

[Hentai_Desu-ka?]

Wait, what? He's spent months trying to get her to let him hit it raw and she only just now gave in after she had her memory altered so she thought she's been fucking him for years.

Okay... I get it that the writing for this game isn't great. But people here straight up making shit up to try to drag the writing. Like, you have so many real criticism you can use. Just use those.

There's a severe plot hole in that explanation though. When the Memories was being over-written it was supposed to be Yui's Memories that needed to be corrected and rebooted, not Asuna's. I hate Hypnosis/ Mind Control plot twists with a passion but it's not like I didn't already see signs of it coming from miles away, but it is what it is.

 

[RavensTear01]

I feel like your 43 hours of game time alone should explain a lot of what you're complaining about? Why is she just letting Inoda do the things he does? Well as your real life game time has pointed out, a lot of fucking time has passed where she's slowly letting more and more things happen. There's many times where she makes excuses, but also many times where she just gives up because of how persistent Inoda is. One basic explanation is that the stuff that happens in FOG overall will affect the mind, and it shows that she's just getting more and more used to Inoda's actions that she's not capable of realizing what her rules are anymore.

If you're talking about how she's becoming a mindless sex drone; is that not one of the potential end result of NTRs?

In regards to story ideas, I don't know why Asuna would reflect on her actions at all when this is an NTR game. But Kirito learning about the truth? At some point it may or may not happen, but I don't see why this matters to anybody. The only people that seem to care about Kirito learning the truth seem to have some kind massive copium hope that there's going to be an ending where Asuna and Inoda get screwed over. It sounds unlikely, but if it happens, it'll be funny to me at least.

Yes, absolutely you're right. A lot of time has passed. And Asuna has given a lot of ground because of how persistent Inoda has been... but she has also refused a lot of things. Mind you, A LOT of the ground she conceded was because of the misunderstanding of her thinking Kirito was seeing whores at the brothel. That fucked her up and Immediately made her more receptive to Inoda. It was one of the bigger moments in the entire game, both parts in mind. It drew a line and made her justify a lot of things in her mind. Her not realizing what her rules are anymore was just... weird. Plain and simple. One moment she made it clear that sex was only an in-game thing, next she's agreeing to IRL anal literally out of the blue (I cannot stress that enough, it came out of nowhere.) and then off of the anal comes the vaginal sex and agreeing to be his Sefure. Now... I want to make it very clear... Up until this point, she did have rules, and she actually strictly stuck by them. No kissing, no IRL stuff... but in one instance, she not only allows kisses (Irl mind you) but allows IRL sex stuff, and it's not a result of his persistence, he just... does it, and she just goes 'Oh well'. Not even that, actually. She doesn't go 'oh well'... just nothing is said or done about it. That is the exact instance, and the exact update where you could tell Fujino was over it. Because there wasn't dialogue about Asuna accepting it, or going 'yes, I want this.', or getting over her conflict... she was very much against these things, vehemently rejecting them, and then all of a sudden they just happen and she goes along with it.

As for her becoming a mindless sex drone, you're right. That absolutely is a very common plot point in NTR, however in Asuna's case, it happened very abruptly, and it has negatively impacted the game's story. It's not like she had a moment of deciding she wanted Inoda instead of Kirito. It wasn't corruption, it wasn't her changing her mind, it wasn't a result of what happened throughout Part One and Part Two till this point... it had nothing to do with the game up to this point, nothing to do with Inoda, and nothing to do with Kirito... her memories just got altered into thinking 'Oh, I've been fucking Inoda all along, and he's been my secret husband all along.' This could've happened early in Part One and it would've had the same result. It went from a character battling (even if she was losing that battle) with her values and trying to enforce rules, to someone who just goes along with everything and likes it, because she now believes that something that has been happening reluctantly and one-sidedly for days, has actually been happening excitedly and mutually for years and years. It was out of the blue and it could've been a phenomenal plot point... but it feels cheap and quick to just speed up Inoda and Asuna's relationship.

As for the story... at the end of the day, it's a porn game, it's an NTR porn game at that, and it's not that deep. That being said, the dev has put an ungodly amount of time, effort and presumably money into this game, and it legitimately had a great and engaging story up until the hotel quarantine. Asuna reflecting on her actions would be weird for an NTR game, but not THIS NTR game... not if you take her character in this game and this story into consideration. Honestly, a ending where Inoda and Asuna get screwed over would be funny as hell, and I do think it's copium. You're right, cause I don't see that happening. However, it would make for a pretty peak ending though... because it wouldn't be Asuna AND Inoda being screwed over, just Inoda. If Asuna got her memories back and learned the truth about Inoda and all he has done and orchestrated, she would be the first to condemn him, and that's me not even considering her personality from the anime, that's just her personality from the game before her memories got fucked. She would fucking hate Inoda with a passion if she knew that him saving her from the thugs was manipulation, his arm being injured for so long was manipulation, his visits to her confessional was manipulation, Kirito never used whores at the brothel, his thoughts towards her was much more volatile than his words... if she found out just half of Inoda's true thoughts and actions she would absolutely loathe him based on her character in this game.

 

[Adultress]

That was intended. The end of the game was Kirito going home and calling Asuna. Then when it cuts to the menu, its of Asuna getting fucked around the corner without a condom and Kirito is in the background calling her.

Although I hope just randomly fucking outside isn't gonna be the first time we see her getting fucked raw but we will see

The abrupt ending just contributes to the feeling that this was half an update.

 

[erokinng]

There's a severe plot hole in that explanation though. When the Memories was being over-written it was supposed to be Yui's Memories that needed to be corrected and rebooted, not Asuna's. I hate Hypnosis/ Mind Control plot twists with a passion but it's not like I didn't already see signs of it coming from miles away, but it is what it is.

Yes and no. Yui's memories were corrupted because of the impregnation ritual. Asuna and Inoda were the ones who fucked and "conceived" her, but her own memories remembers Kirito and Asuna being her parents. The memory reconstruction event was designed to re-affirm Asuna and Kirito's relationship to her. However, since Inoda secretly followed them he was able to quite literally insert himself into the memories. The text that pops up after each memory scene registers Inoda in a relationship with Asuna in some fashion.

Then later on, and this is important, we get the exposition from Oberon who is currently doing the same thing to Alice to rewire her memories. He explains to us that you can change small details like if she had a dog or a cat growing up as long as it affirms the baseline personality. He further explains that you can insert small but significant changes like this, and then the mind will create filler memories to fill the gaps.

That's what happens to Asuna. She has these core memories get slightly altered, aka Inoda being in a relationship with her. The only reason they don't cause a massive desynchronization is because a)she's already got feelings for him b)she has been in a real relationship with him the last couple months AND c)he was also an actual SAO survivor(thus could have physically been present for such a relationship). Her mind then fills in the gaps between them, which is where the whole "we relieved our stress together frequently in SAO" thing comes from even though they only had sex a couple of times in the memory reconstruction. Also Inoda himself helps plant those memories, like when he tells her to meet up with him once a week behind Kirito's back and stuff, which they obviously never actually did since the memory reconstruction ends after that.

So the memory reconstruction event serves to do two separate but impactful things: It re-affirms Asuna and Kirito Inoda's relationship in SAO for Yui and thus resolving her parent identifier issue, and it also creates new false memories for Asuna that writes Inoda into her life in SAO.

Obviously, it's a bit heavy-handed/hand-wavey but I attribute some of that to the fact that memory reconstruction and rewriting is literally a fictitious technology and Fujino is not a scientist who can be expected to figure this shit out on his own. With that said, the explanation he came up with is certainly passable and IMO does not require a large amount of suspension of disbelief to go along with. In the end, we get a style of brainwashing that is at least more nuanced than "look at my phone screen... when I count to 3 you'll be 100x more sensitive and love the smell of my dick lol". Also, at least this one didn't just end in her waking up and being full on, "OMG I love Inoda only, fuck Kirito!" and he still has to corrupt her more. She's just way more open to it now because now she thinks they've been in lust/love for years, not months.

Look, bottom line, the game's writing is okay at best and the sex scenes are hot. But the game's writing is not a steaming pile of shit like some people seem to be trying to imply. The important thing though is that the sex scenes are hot. Also that Kirito gets cucked. That's really important, IMO.

 

[SORM1158]

All in all, I personally think creators are best suited for making short games. Like, a story that wraps up in one to two weeks tops. As for NTR themes, the author's super talented at that—always hits that sweet spot and leaves you wanting more.

 

[erokinng]

Maybe I didn't express myself clearly enough. What I meant is that in the scene where she agrees to raw sex, there should be a detailed or descriptive chapter to build up the long-awaited raw sex plot to its climax. But instead, it just hastily has them looking for birth control pills in the convenience store, and then she agrees to raw sex through some dialogue, which left me utterly shocked. A plot that could get all you players rock hard down there...

I'm hoping that a lot of that will in the next update, since it appears he very consciously decided to make the first raw sex scene the "climax" and subsequent cliffhanger of this update. I have no idea what his actual plans are for this game though, so you can chalk it up to wishful thinking on my part.

I also wish we got to see her perspective to build up to that final scene. But since that whole morning is strictly Kirito-POV only, it makes sense for it to be "abrupt" because he never sees her that day (so far).

 

[RavensTear01]

I think the game being updated monthly has screwed up some people's perception of the game at times. It's been about 2 years since Part 2 started, and it's a little hilarious people are talking about how things are going so fast with Asuna, when a year ago, people couldn't stop complaining about how slow the development is.

The thing is, I for instance, didn't play the game back then. I played both Part One and Part Two recently in quick succession. 0.95 was actually the first update I waited for after having completed the game up until this point, and that being said... things do progress unbelievably fast out of nowhere. Pre-hotel quarantine, there was no IRL stuff happening at all, in-game sex was limited to once a week, no kissing was a rule, and Asuna was determined above all to be better for Kirito. She still had conflict and a conscience (note her 'who will I be at the end of this quarantine' speech.) Then all of a sudden she and Inoda start having daily sex, with more deprived acts by the day in game, and then in one night they have anal sex IRL(her first time btw), vaginal sex IRL, and kiss IRL, and Asuna not only agrees to all of it in the moment, she also agrees to all of it happening daily for the remainder of the quarantine. One moment she still has a spine, a conscience, values and tries to regulate things, and the next, without it being prompted, she just gives in completely and forgets all her rules. And then she gets her memories replaced and at that point it's legitimately not even Asuna anymore. On and after 7/15 she becomes a completely different character, completely divorced from everything that happened from the start of Part One up until this point. The story between Asuna and Inoda does take a very very quick turn and progression for the worse. In a very short amount of playtime she goes from fucking Inoda once a week in-game, feeling bad for it and mentally being focused on how to be better for Kirito... to fucking Inoda daily IRL, agreeing to whatever he wants, being in-love with him and barely even thinking about Kirito at all anymore, outside of negative thoughts. Things did progress jarringly fast.

 

[saitamaTM]

Here, this way you can see it better
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but why asuna leave her phone like that and what is that thing near the phone

 

[Hentai_Desu-ka?]

Yes and no. Yui's memories were corrupted because of the impregnation ritual. Asuna and Inoda were the ones who fucked and "conceived" her, but her own memories remembers Kirito and Asuna being her parents. The memory reconstruction event was designed to re-affirm Asuna and Kirito's relationship to her. However, since Inoda secretly followed them he was able to quite literally insert himself into the memories. The text that pops up after each memory scene registers Inoda in a relationship with Asuna in some fashion.

Then later on, and this is important, we get the exposition from Oberon who is currently doing the same thing to Alice to rewire her memories. He explains to us that you can change small details like if she had a dog or a cat growing up as long as it affirms the baseline personality. He further explains that you can insert small but significant changes like this, and then the mind will create filler memories to fill the gaps.

That's what happens to Asuna. She has these core memories get slightly altered, aka Inoda being in a relationship with her. The only reason they don't cause a massive desynchronization is because a)she's already got feelings for him b)she has been in a real relationship with him the last couple months AND c)he was also an actual SAO survivor(thus could have physically been present for such a relationship). Her mind then fills in the gaps between them, which is where the whole "we relieved our stress together frequently in SAO" thing comes from even though they only had sex a couple of times in the memory reconstruction. Also Inoda himself helps plant those memories, like when he tells her to meet up with him once a week behind Kirito's back and stuff, which they obviously never actually did since the memory reconstruction ends after that.

So the memory reconstruction event serves to do two separate but impactful things: It re-affirms Asuna and Kirito Inoda's relationship in SAO for Yui and thus resolving her parent identifier issue, and it also creates new false memories for Asuna that writes Inoda into her life in SAO.

Obviously, it's a bit heavy-handed/hand-wavey but I attribute some of that to the fact that memory reconstruction and rewriting is literally a fictitious technology and Fujino is not a scientist who can be expected to figure this shit out on his own. With that said, the explanation he came up with is certainly passable and IMO does not require a large amount of suspension of disbelief to go along with. In the end, we get a style of brainwashing that is at least more nuanced than "look at my phone screen... when I count to 3 you'll be 100x more sensitive and love the smell of my dick lol". Also, at least this one didn't just end in her waking up and being full on, "OMG I love Inoda only, fuck Kirito!" and he still has to corrupt her more. She's just way more open to it now because now she thinks they've been in lust/love for years, not months.

Look, bottom line, the game's writing is okay at best and the sex scenes are hot. But the game's writing is not a steaming pile of shit like some people seem to be trying to imply. The important thing though is that the sex scenes are hot. Also that Kirito gets cucked. That's really important, IMO.

I already knew and understood all of that the problem is just me specifically. I just really hate Hypnosis/ Mind Control plots in general no matter how well constructed the story is told. And since this isn't exactly Hypnosis/ Mind Control (as in the way you've described it), as it's more like memory re-writing more than anything, I would view this as sort of a sub-section of Hypnosis/ Mind Control, an interesting mechanic variant that hadn't necessarily been explored before. It still falls into a category of my own profiling that I just hate, along with a few other genre's such as gore amputee (where they're being dismembered and mutilated, if they have something like an amputated limb as part of their character design it's fine, just not a fan of gory dismemberment), so I'll just leave that much there.

Fujino is doing an okay job so there isn't really any big complaints from me.

 

[Ahihihihahaha]

Cho tôi hỏi tại sao đến phần gặp asuna lại bị uot ra menu vậy

 

[gaka200]

Yes, absolutely you're right. A lot of time has passed. And Asuna has given a lot of ground because of how persistent Inoda has been... but she has also refused a lot of things. Mind you, A LOT of the ground she conceded was because of the misunderstanding of her thinking Kirito was seeing whores at the brothel. That fucked her up and Immediately made her more receptive to Inoda. It was one of the bigger moments in the entire game, both parts in mind. It drew a line and made her justify a lot of things in her mind. Her not realizing what her rules are anymore was just... weird. Plain and simple. One moment she made it clear that sex was only an in-game thing, next she's agreeing to IRL anal literally out of the blue (I cannot stress that enough, it came out of nowhere.) and then off of the anal comes the vaginal sex and agreeing to be his Sefure. Now... I want to make it very clear... Up until this point, she did have rules, and she actually strictly stuck by them. No kissing, no IRL stuff... but in one instance, she not only allows kisses (Irl mind you) but allows IRL sex stuff, and it's not a result of his persistence, he just... does it, and she just goes 'Oh well'. Not even that, actually. She doesn't go 'oh well'... just nothing is said or done about it. That is the exact instance, and the exact update where you could tell Fujino was over it. Because there wasn't dialogue about Asuna accepting it, or going 'yes, I want this.', or getting over her conflict... she was very much against these things, vehemently rejecting them, and then all of a sudden they just happen and she goes along with it.

As for her becoming a mindless sex drone, you're right. That absolutely is a very common plot point in NTR, however in Asuna's case, it happened very abruptly, and it has negatively impacted the game's story. It's not like she had a moment of deciding she wanted Inoda instead of Kirito. It wasn't corruption, it wasn't her changing her mind, it wasn't a result of what happened throughout Part One and Part Two till this point... it had nothing to do with the game up to this point, nothing to do with Inoda, and nothing to do with Kirito... her memories just got altered into thinking 'Oh, I've been fucking Inoda all along, and he's been my secret husband all along.' This could've happened early in Part One and it would've had the same result. It went from a character battling (even if she was losing that battle) with her values and trying to enforce rules, to someone who just goes along with everything and likes it, because she now believes that something that has been happening reluctantly and one-sidedly for days, has actually been happening excitedly and mutually for years and years. It was out of the blue and it could've been a phenomenal plot point... but it feels cheap and quick to just speed up Inoda and Asuna's relationship.

As for the story... at the end of the day, it's a porn game, it's an NTR porn game at that, and it's not that deep. That being said, the dev has put an ungodly amount of time, effort and presumably money into this game, and it legitimately had a great and engaging story up until the hotel quarantine. Asuna reflecting on her actions would be weird for an NTR game, but not THIS NTR game... not if you take her character in this game and this story into consideration. Honestly, a ending where Inoda and Asuna get screwed over would be funny as hell, and I do think it's copium. You're right, cause I don't see that happening. However, it would make for a pretty peak ending though... because it wouldn't be Asuna AND Inoda being screwed over, just Inoda. If Asuna got her memories back and learned the truth about Inoda and all he has done and orchestrated, she would be the first to condemn him, and that's me not even considering her personality from the anime, that's just her personality from the game before her memories got fucked. She would fucking hate Inoda with a passion if she knew that him saving her from the thugs was manipulation, his arm being injured for so long was manipulation, his visits to her confessional was manipulation, Kirito never used whores at the brothel, his thoughts towards her was much more volatile than his words... if she found out just half of Inoda's true thoughts and actions she would absolutely loathe him based on her character in this game.

Because it's long I'll put it in spoilers. Anyways, happy fapping.

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