RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[mos555]

You’re literally proving my point. You keep repeating that Asuna is “the perfect supporting character” and “always there,” but that’s exactly why she’s a weakly written character in the first place. Her entire role boils down to being Kirito’s eternal cheerleader, and whenever Kawahara runs out of ideas, he just shelves her until he needs her again. That’s not strength, that’s narrative convenience.
And about Alicization, yeah, she spent 200 years with Kirito in the virtual world, but how much of that did we actually see? Barely anything. Kawahara throws in these “perfect wife” tags because he knows fans eat it up, but he never develops her beyond that.
If Kawahara had really wanted to do ntr, he wouldn’t need Laughing Coffin or drugs or revenge arcs. He’d just need to lean into the cracks he already wrote into Asuna’s character, her jealousy, her dependence on Kirito, and her insecurity about losing him. Fujino didn’t invent those flaws, he just took the mask off

You're digging too deep. There is no hint in the novel at all that Asuna somehow has seditious thoughts about cheating or anything like that. There's nothing like that there at all. Even when fans shouted during "Fairy Dance" that "Oberon fucked Asuna in a golden cage," Reki Kawahara immediately tweeted that "sexual interactions are prohibited in the game and these prohibitions are added at the core level of the game, so Sugo, even as the owner and administrator, cannot remove these restrictions." That is, Reki Kawahara immediately removed all NTR hints from his novel.

If there were any hints of NTR in the novel, it was more likely hints that Kirito had cheated on Asuna with someone from his "harem", which resulted in several non-canon stories from Raki Kawahara himself, and in one of them Asuna allowed Kirito to sleep with all the other girls in the virtual world.

I don't think it's worth looking for hints of something like this in Kawahara's work. Just as it is not necessary to look for some kind of connection between him and Fujino. I think this is Fujino's personal initiative, which may have a double bottom. Maybe it's just money, or maybe Fujino hates OP characters and loyal, unblemished girls. Therefore, Fujino created the exact opposite of Kirito-Inoda and decided to punish all the girls around Kirito. Just out of dislike. It's not for nothing that he talked about his love for Inoda and that he likes Asuna, which he created. Psychopath-rapist and a hypocritical whore? Seriously? Do you think Reki Kawahara is so disrespectful of his work?

 

[mos555]

Yeah, that was just a joke, my 1/10 ragebait attempt

I thought you'd lost your mind, and I started panicking...

 

[Mr Technician]

Assuming her bad character traits pictured in this "story" overwrite everything else she was good is exactly Fujino way of thinking. To exagerate on bad traits. And to twist their original characters. But its also required to do so that way.
Otherwise there would be nothing to base on with her. (Hentai Logic) Remember, this is NTR story, so you cannot assume that in 200 years she haven't done anything wrong, but the same way you cannot assume whatever she was doing at all.
Those characters have got only one purpose, they are ready to corrupt. Judging by the author progression and those 200 years, please don't tell me i will have to wait 2 years of updates before Fujino will introduce me to unprotected sex between Asuna-biatch and Rapist Inoda...
Is is kinda prolonging what is unevitable anyway. Sooner or later we will have the happy ending (here in this game) Golden Boy with her.
So for me what i can think of, is to read and watch at least some good smut sex scenes. Its getting a little boring after isolation in Hotel. I have seen all of it, all the sex scenes.
And in the end i dont see her turning to a Sow, or what would excite me even more: getting corrupted. What i see instead is just her getting dicked and dicked again...
It is not even that much exciting to see it even yet again. If nothing changes in major and this suspense continues exactly same way...
It is just a game between two people who feck like rabbits. And the ending is obvious. They will get togheter "loving" each other.
Plus in a game where you can make choices, but they are irrevelant - i dont name this a game but a Virtual Novel. Which is exactly what it is. And for the obvious reason: in the Novel your choices do not matter.
You can replay any chapter - starts with the same stats every single time... Only choice is to follow the rabbit hole even deeper to see or not - more sex scenes. Also majority of it between just the two characters.
But there are no choices that would matter in next chapters. You will start just again with the same stats in the chapter. Characters do not have different dialogues or reactions, based on choices you made. For that reason i wouldn't name it RPG game at all... Or how, and based on the choices you lead the CucKirito over the whole story. This is just getting boring to see yet again plain sex scenes and pretend she got even more corrupted. But all you can do is just laugh about her Perks... Like an excuse to make more sex scenes with just two of the main characters... To view more of her Perks getting fecked up. It seems it has got no end. And for that it is getting boring for me.
I really wish something will happen. Something more.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

And now we are at 2000 pages and 40,000 posts. We all worked hard for this!!!

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Congrats to everyone! though really, you should have chosen a picture of Suguha and Kirito to celebrate instead, this Kirito and Asuna look way too happy together to accurately represent Fujino's ones XD

 

[Aniky Light]

and in one of them Asuna allowed Kirito to sleep with all the other girls in the virtual world.

In the Virtual World, everything is permitted, as Kirito said, if you want to kill, kill, if you want to steal, steal, even if he didn't really agree.

 

[Aniky Light]

And now we are at 2000 pages and 40,000 posts. We all worked hard for this!!!

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My version

 

[mos555]

In the Virtual World, everything is permitted, as Kirito said, if you want to kill, kill, if you want to steal, steal, even if he didn't really agree.

Nothing is true, everthing is permitted

 

[Aniky Light]

How much time does 200 years in the game equate to in IRL?

 

[Aniky Light]

People who think that in all these years of absence, Asuna has done something with other men, but these are your erotic fantasies and what you would like it to be, but in reality it is not so

 

[Aniky Light]

Congrats to everyone! though really, you should have chosen a picture of Suguha and Kirito to celebrate instead, this Kirito and Asuna look way too happy together to accurately represent Fujino's ones XD

I'll take care of it

 

[mos555]

How much time does 200 years in the game equate to in IRL?

People who think that in all these years of absence, Asuna has done something with other men, but these are your erotic fantasies and what you would like it to be, but in reality it is not so

From July 7 to August 1. With 1000x acceleration, they spent 25 days in a coma, in the real world.

I agree, considering that when Asuna and Kirito woke up, they met before their memories were erased, and it's obvious that their relationship hasn't changed in any way. Moreover, Reki Kawahara denies any infidelity on the part of Asuna throughout the story, and he knows better. So it's all just a hentai fantasy.

It seems to me, Fujino, that he could use this 200-year period of time to create an NTR game. It could have been a good sandbox rpg with quests and scene searches.

 

[Aniky Light]

From July 7 to August 1. With 1000x acceleration, they spent 25 days in a coma, in the real world.

I agree, considering that when Asuna and Kirito woke up, they met before their memories were erased, and it's obvious that their relationship hasn't changed in any way. Moreover, Reki Kawahara denies any infidelity on the part of Asuna throughout the story, and he knows better. So it's all just a hentai fantasy.

It seems to me, Fujino, that he could use this 200-year period of time to create an NTR game. It could have been a good sandbox rpg with quests and scene searches.

But isn't Fujino one of those who got pissed off at Kawahara?
Fujino: How dare you not include NTR elements? I'll show you, you bastard *Fujino creates the game by destroying Reki Kawahara's work* xD

 

[mos555]

But isn't Fujino one of those who got pissed off at Kawahara?
Fujino: How dare you not include NTR elements? I'll show you, you bastard *Fujino creates the game by destroying Reki Kawahara's work* xD

I don't think that's the whole point. It's more simple - a popular novel = more subscribers = more money. If there is any hatred for author, for SAO universe, or for characters, then it is clearly not at the top of Fujino's priorities. But of course I can't know for sure. I'm just guessing.

 

[kinglionheart]

My version
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I'll take care of it
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Where the canon can't provide, AI will deliver.

 

[Deleted member 9536489]

Yeah, that was just a joke, my 1/10 ragebait attempt

well, i knew you were jk. even liz didn't fell for such obvious bait...

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[AlterInfernalAllius]

From July 7 to August 1. With 1000x acceleration, they spent 25 days in a coma, in the real world.

I agree, considering that when Asuna and Kirito woke up, they met before their memories were erased, and it's obvious that their relationship hasn't changed in any way. Moreover, Reki Kawahara denies any infidelity on the part of Asuna throughout the story, and he knows better. So it's all just a hentai fantasy.

It seems to me, Fujino, that he could use this 200-year period of time to create an NTR game. It could have been a good sandbox rpg with quests and scene searches.

Actually, you got quite a few things wrong, bbut that last one especially so XD The Acceleration was put ultra-mega-dangeroulsy high, at like one million, because of the bad guys' fuck-up, and Asuna and Kirito couldn't log in in time to avoid it (It was mega-dangerously for their souls' stability), they were actually just logged in for less than an hour that equated to 200 years becasue of it. They ended up in a coma for almost a month as a result of that (Their souls almost collapsed), but they were already out of the machines and the accelerated time by then XP

 

[crazy1st]

But isn't Fujino one of those who got pissed off at Kawahara?
Fujino: How dare you not include NTR elements? I'll show you, you bastard *Fujino creates the game by destroying Reki Kawahara's work* xD

its not like the SAO creator does not interested in including NTR and forced sexual conduct in their work tho... they just dont do it blatantly because its not suited for their targeted reader's age... i meant how many near rape there is in the original work?

- asuna nearly got raped by sugou in game, and nearly got sexually assaulted by couple of tentacles too
- sinon nearly got raped in her own apartment irl
- alice iirc got assaulted during her brainwashing into synthesis 30
- suguha got assaulted in underworld in her teria account (is that her account name?)
- the worst is kirito's and eugeo's student (forgot their name) who really got raped in underworld

the only one who never got assaulted in the series is silica and lisbeth i think... so the idea is already there even in original work...

 

[SilentLuix]

asuna spent too much time captured by sugou, it would me impossible to me to believe he didn't rape her. That's the issue with stories like SAO, even if the author says that nothing really happened, common sense tells you otherwise.
It's like writing something like "Rain started pouring quickly and there was no shelter available. In the end, I didn't get wet at all."

 

[mos555]

На самом деле, вы ошиблись во многих вещах, особенно в последнем, так что XD The Acceleration была оценена как ультра-мега-опасность, около одного миллиона, из-за неудачи плохих парней, и Асуна и Кирито не смогли вовремя войти в систему, чтобы избежать этого (это было мега-опасно для стабильности их душ), они на самом деле просто вошли в систему менее чем на час, что приравнивалось к 200 годам из-за этого. В результате они оказались в коме почти на месяц (их души почти рухнули), но они уже были вне машин и ускоренного времени к тому времени XP

I know that they spent only about 20 minutes there, accelerated 5000000 times, and then they just lay in a coma so that their consciousness would not collapse and they erased their memory when they left. I just simplified it because the person asked how much time these 200-year adventures took in real world and in game. Taking into account the consequences, they lost 25 days in the real world in exchange for 200 years of life in the "Underworld".

Although yes, I shouldn't have talked about acceleration, maybe just confused the person.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

its not like the SAO creator does not interested in including NTR and forced sexual conduct in their work tho... they just dont do it blatantly because its not suited for their targeted reader's age... i meant how many near rape there is in the original work?

- asuna nearly got raped by sugou in game, and nearly got sexually assaulted by couple of tentacles too
- sinon nearly got raped in her own apartment irl
- alice iirc got assaulted during her brainwashing into synthesis 30
- suguha got assaulted in underworld in her teria account (is that her account name?)
- the worst is kirito's and eugeo's student (forgot their name) who really got raped in underworld

the only one who never got assaulted in the series is silica and lisbeth i think... so the idea is already there even in original work...

Actually, most of those are exaggerations of the anime, funnily enough XD Shino wasn't gonna get raped, Kyouji had lost it so much he wanted to commit a double-suicide, he was jsut so unhinged that he was all over her, and the anime obviously exaggerated it to make it more rapey. Alice when getting synthesized was basically 'tortured', but that was for a lot if the I. Knights that didn't do it willingly, so it wasn't really sexual at all, even the anime doesn't try and make it look like this tbh.

Suguha/Leafa actually got done mega-extra dirty by the anime, while there was SOME level of suggestive stuff in that scene in the novels it was actually emphasized extra-hard that it was more like her being tortured than sexually assaulted, but the anime for some reason made it look like genuine tentacle rape x 1000. And even worse, later on they actually doubled-down in doing her dirty by making the scene of how she ended after soloing the army look lamer, in the novels she actually got pierced by so many weapons that at the end she literally COULDN'T fall down to the ground because there were so many weapons impaling her body after she won that they kept her upright. The anime for some fucking reason chose to censor THAT while making the not-tentacle-rape scene into actual tentacle rape XP

Kirito and Eugeo's valets DID have it the worse, though, but small correction: Ronye and Tiese, while assaulted, didn't actually get raped in Canon, Eugeo and Kirito's intervention saved them from that. However, in the original and no longer canon web novel (Which was basically the original draft and has many minor and a couple major differences from the currently most known SAO), they actually WERE, it was one of the most specific retcons when making the Light Novel version because Reki regretted it and the editor agreed that it was unnecessary too :O

asuna spent too much time captured by sugou, it would me impossible to me to believe he didn't rape her. That's the issue with stories like SAO, even if the author says that nothing really happened, common sense tells you otherwise.
It's like writing something like "Rain started pouring quickly and there was no shelter available. In the end, I didn't get wet at all."

Asuna was caught for 2 months in canon, but you see, this is an issue not caused by the story but by fan-perception, Sugou did NOT have any real interest in Asuna sexually, he saw her more as a trophy and a means to an end than anything else, most of the 'creepy' stuff he did with her was to boast like an idiot and make her feel how he was in charge. NTR doujins and Hentai have overly painted him as an evil rapist who is ever-thirsty for Asuna, but the truth is that she barely even counted for him as anything other than the trophy wife he was gonna get when his dumb evil brainwashing technology plans came to fruition. Hell, the only reason he even assaulted her at the end of Fairy Dance was because Kirito had pissed him off and he wanted to see him despair...the retard adult man really just wanted to gloat in front of a powerless teenager, and that was ironically his doom, if he had just banned and logged him out before Kayaba intervened and have Kirito his admin account, he would have won and there would have been nothing Kirito could do to prove anything XD So is not 'unrealistic' that he didn't rape Asuna, he genuinely had no interest in doing that, his goals were above that...Sugou just also happened to be extremely retarded wanting to gloat over powerless teeangers :3 (If he had just kept Asuna asleep as a virtual brain-jar like he did the other SAO survivors he had caught rather than having her in a gilded cage to constantly tell her his plans and how he would become his obedient pet, he would have won period, as nobody would have ever found her XP)