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you're also forgetting that this game is based on sao. it's obviously gonna have mixed opinions when the dev made both kirito & asuna such retarded characters, and you can't just brush that off. if it had original characters/story, barely anyone would be complaining. but we all know that kirito's future in this game looks pretty bad. anyone hoping for a good ending for him shouldprobably just drop that idea since it's an ntr game after all View attachment 5038732
"NTR" is a process, not a result. The fact that the game has an NTR genre does not determine its ending. If everyone who has ever done something in the NTR genre had always used the rule "If it's NTR, then the ending is always bad," this genre would have degenerated due to monotony. Although everything is still ahead, probably because people somehow view the genre too narrowly. There are thousands of games / novels / doujinshi with hundreds of possible endings - from pitch black to naked, furious revenge.

Don't you think that when you wrote - "but we all know that kirito's future in this game looks pretty bad. anyone hoping for a good ending for him should probably just drop that idea since it's an ntr game after all" you just took the liberty to devalue decades of development of the NTR genre and throw thousands of works in the trash because they don't meet your personal vision of the NTR genre? Pretty categorical.

And before you write something, don't forget to add "in my opinion" or "I think that." Otherwise, it looks as if what you wrote is the only true and correct one.
 

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As I said in my previous comment, for me Asuna's mindbreak point had already been reached several updates ago and this is a bonus. I find the idea of corrupting the good times and memories that built the relationship with Kirito especially delightful and in that respect I think it was a very good update.

Personally, I don't think Asuna is brainwashed, as shown by some of her thoughts in this update making it clear that she knows this is a fantasy. Asuna can't recreate the past with Kirito because Yui only identifies Inoda as the father after the ritual and also Kirito can no longer satisfy her as he did then.

Some comments have taken it as if there has been time travel here and we are in an alternate timeline. It isn't. I'm sure Fujino will be back in the next update with Asuna rejecting Inoda and denying all the dirty talk...though perhaps with slightly more confused memory and feelings. Part of the fun (even if it's now all about closing plots and conquering the other girls) is seeing Asuna in denial so I imagine it's will continue to the very end.

Some SAO fans are upset that Kirito is not a Giga Chad, but in my opinion, Fujino has been very generous to Kirito, giving him other girls to cheat on Asuna with who clearly want him like Suguha. Personally I prefer the humiliation of the woman to be followed by the humiliation of the man in this kind of story, but I think Fujino is offering a dignified way out for Kirito (and hopefully away from the absolute cringe of MC taking his revenge). If it were up to me, Kirito would be brainwashed and feminized by Sugou after losing to him and Inoda would add him to her harem.

When faced with the questions of why we handle Kirito, I think it is essential: as an unreliable narrator, as a way to establish the two points of view of the game (first we perceive the events in the margins and in small flashes to then go to the gallery and learn the full story from which we have been excluded), as a way to mask and humiliate the player. The problem and complaints I think arise from the fact that even though we manage Kirito, the protagonist is by all accounts Inoda. This is not an anonymous or cardboard bull who only fulfills his role as a sex machine or temptress, but someone with more personality and presence than Kirito himself, who has now become a mute observer.

Personally I don't have a special interest in hypnosis or brainwashing, I prefer that they break their resistance little by little through feelings of guilt and lust, but that doesn't detract from the fact that I enjoyed this update. The truth is that given the scenario it was never very plausible for Asuna to be so accepting of Inoda, and in that sense I would have preferred something better written. Part of the pleasure of Curse of Kubel, to cite one of the few games of this style that I've played, is that I think it does an excellent job of slowly undermining the girl's hopes through extortion and gradually increasing the pleasure to make her a bull dependent.

NTR games seem quite complex to write. I imagine if feet is your thing, you'll have plenty of games where it's not hard for the vast majority of players to be satisfied, but with NTRs (if we ignore all the SAO fans who are just annoyed that their alter ego Kirito isn't the bull) it seems like everyone has very specific preferences on how to proceed and the debates are too fierce. I'm certainly happy with this game, though I'd prefer Fujino to dare to write a pre-planned story of his own, with more feasible project dimensions.

Overall, I wish the game was a little better written and less chaotic. I recently played "The Fall of Camelot: The Betrayal of Guinevere & Lancelot," and while it's technically lacking and the storytelling isn't as polished, there's a sense of love for the setting without Fujino's lore dumps, and it's a smaller project that benefits from focusing on a single heroine. Here's hoping we get a "NTRPG2" moment at the end of this adventure, when you first climb to the top floor and hear your girlfriend's moans as you approach her bedroom. A crushed Kirito is currently my biggest wish for this game.
This last update was bad and good at same time, the scenes as always were well done by Fujino no complains there, the argument for them felt cheap wihich is the bad part, even so that Fujino had to explain/justify twice his decisions which is never a good sign for a author.

The big problem for a while now is the the overuse of conviniences to move Inoda/Asuna plot, because of that any hint of tension was suck out of the story, and the plot is only used to justify/setup sex secnes variations, from this last one we already know Asuna will be okay with raw sex and creampies, her memories were "juggled" enough for that to happen, plot convinence at it's finnest.

Canon fans and their criticism came with the territory, when Fujino had decide working with a pre well established IP he knew that could be a consequence, thuth to be told many Canon fans have a hard time understanding the concept of parody.

MC revenge as concept it's not "cringe" just not explored, because god forbid a woman being hold accountable for her actions and being saw as the vilain in the story, that don't for some reason seat very well with some people so authors trying to avoid problems don't go there. In that regard Fujino is not being "generous" with Kirito he's just using these actions (others girls) to excuse Asuna's BS.
This NTR trope is so overused "always mc's fault" that fans don't even care anymore, but nobody can say with a straight face that Asuna and Inoda don't deserve a brutal and painfull revenge from Kirito.
 

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This last update was bad and good at same time, the scenes as always were well done by Fujino no complains there, the argument for them felt cheap wihich is the bad part, even so that Fujino had to explain/justify twice his decisions which is never a good sign for a author.

The big problem for a while now is the the overuse of conviniences to move Inoda/Asuna plot, because of that any hint of tension was suck out of the story, and the plot is only used to justify/setup sex secnes variations, from this last one we already know Asuna will be okay with raw sex and creampies, her memories were "juggled" enough for that to happen, plot convinence at it's finnest.

Canon fans and their criticism came with the territory, when Fujino had decide working with a pre well established IP he knew that could be a consequence, thuth to be told many Canon fans have a hard time understanding the concept of parody.

MC revenge as concept it's not "cringe" just not explored, because god forbid a woman being hold accountable for her actions and being saw as the vilain in the story, that don't for some reason seat very well with some people so authors trying to avoid problems don't go there. In that regard Fujino is not being "generous" with Kirito he's just using these actions (others girls) to excuse Asuna's BS.
This NTR trope is so overused "always mc's fault" that fans don't even care anymore, but nobody can say with a straight face that Asuna and Inoda don't deserve a brutal and painfull revenge from Kirito.
I agree that Asuna's development is really the worst aspect of Fujino in that while it keeps a tug-of-war to whether Asuna surrenders to pleasure or goes into denial, it never does so with much plausibility. One way to fix this update, for example, is to have made Inoda into a less pathetic and more active character who actually knew he could interfere and insert himself into those memories, but Fujino wants to “exculpate” Inoda and keep him ignorant of the brainwashing he's committing.

The justification that the system would never have accepted Kirito as Yui's father is acceptable, but that Inoda always acts without thinking and is so lucky is what breaks the story quite a bit. I'd prefer an Inoda who would have conned Asuna that only he can insert himself as Yui's father in her memories. Asuna would not accept this in a good way, but appealing that it's what's best for her daughter and the bond they had already established as sefurus, I think it could have been more interesting. Less “Asuna is vulnerable due to an altered state of consciousness” and more “Inoda knows Asuna's weaknesses well enough to convince her that he's a better choice than Kirito”. But I guess just as I say this, many people would want other methods of defeating Asuna.

I don't like revenge MCs because I think the interesting thing about these stories is the psychological violence and not the physical violence. The endings where the MC is shown to be angry and willing to treat his beloved and the lover badly may be cathartic but it also seems to me that they relegate an immaturity of not wanting to accept that they have lost. Kirito in particular has been sleeping with other women and has neglected Asuna in favor of living out his digital hero fantasy. He is not without guilt. I think painting Asuna exclusively as a villain in this scenario is unwilling to accept that the relationship with Kirito isn't working and that's on both of them. Obviously this is a hentai game and of course the relationship was doomed from the start otherwise there would be no plot.
 

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thuth to be told many Canon fans have a hard time understanding the concept of parody.
It seems to me that the point is that this is not a parody (even if Fujino himself calls it that). A parody is a type of comic stylization, the purpose of which is to ridicule the imitated object, which may be a work of art, the work of an author or genre, as well as the manner of performance and characteristic external features of the performer. For a simple example, the anime "Isekai Quartet" is a parody.

Fujino just took the personage and mixed them with shit, completely changing their characters, behavior and motivation.:cautious:

If Inoda had been given Kirito's cloak and sword, it would have been a parody of Kirito. And if Kirito was turned into a blind vegetable and Asuna into a dumb whore, this is not a parody of Kirito and Asuna, this is some kind of grotesque plagiarism with complete indifference to the original work. :FacePalm:
 
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I don't like revenge MCs because I think the interesting thing about these stories is the psychological violence and not the physical violence. The endings where the MC is shown to be angry and willing to treat his beloved and the lover badly may be cathartic but it also seems to me that they relegate an immaturity of not wanting to accept that they have lost. Kirito in particular has been sleeping with other women and has neglected Asuna in favor of living out his digital hero fantasy. He is not without guilt. I think painting Asuna exclusively as a villain in this scenario is unwilling to accept that the relationship with Kirito isn't working and that's on both of them. Obviously this is a hentai game and of course the relationship was doomed from the start otherwise there would be no plot.
Like i said revenge as concept inside NTR is not well explore because it's hard for authors to justify and many readers would be "offended" by that. NTR is about being "stole" and then lost something so comeuppance and or revenge it's plausible even desirealbe, regardlees if involves physical violence or not.
Actually in this particular scenario, Kirito was the one to warn Asuna about boundaries with Inoda, and she didn't listen, of course without that the plot would not happen, but she is the one to blame and deserving punishment by that, in the end she is the main vilain.
All the other actions are consequences in her failing in set boundaries as she was asked to do, and she only start to see some Kirito's behaviors as problematics only after she started the affair, this is more rationalization for her part than actual problems in the relationship.
 
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It seems to me that the point is that this is not a parody (even if Fujino himself calls it that). A parody is a type of comic stylization, the purpose of which is to ridicule the imitated object, which may be a work of art, the work of an author or genre, as well as the manner of performance and characteristic external features of the performer. For a simple example, the anime "Isekai Quartet" is a parody.

Fujino just took the personage and mixed them with shit, completely changing their characters, behavior and motivation.:cautious:

If Inoda had been given Kirito's cloak and sword, it would have been a parody of Kirito. And if Kirito was turned into a blind vegetable and Asuna into a dumb whore, this is not a parody of Kirito and Asuna, this is some kind of grotesque plagiarism with complete indifference to the original work. :FacePalm:
In fact, parody is something that is supposed to make people laugh, such as the Twilight parody or five smudges of black which would be a parody of five shades of black, Fujino's is just bullying towards canon SAO

The only parody in this game is that Kirito is stupid with a small dick, even Asuna is no exception
 
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"NTR" is a process, not a result. The fact that the game has an NTR genre does not determine its ending. If everyone who has ever done something in the NTR genre had always used the rule "If it's NTR, then the ending is always bad," this genre would have degenerated due to monotony. Although everything is still ahead, probably because people somehow view the genre too narrowly. There are thousands of games / novels / doujinshi with hundreds of possible endings - from pitch black to naked, furious revenge.

Don't you think that when you wrote - "but we all know that kirito's future in this game looks pretty bad. anyone hoping for a good ending for him should probably just drop that idea since it's an ntr game after all" you just took the liberty to devalue decades of development of the NTR genre and throw thousands of works in the trash because they don't meet your personal vision of the NTR genre? Pretty categorical.

And before you write something, don't forget to add "in my opinion" or "I think that." Otherwise, it looks as if what you wrote is the only true and correct one.
i agree with you, but the main point of this game is to humiliate kirito and steal every girl he loves and knows. it's clear that the dev of this game hates kirito, that's the main plot of this game after all - i.e. to humiliate kirito in every way. it's also not an original story, and that's why i said it's really not worth it to expect anything +ve since it was already clear from p-1
 

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It seems to me that the point is that this is not a parody (even if Fujino himself calls it that). A parody is a type of comic stylization, the purpose of which is to ridicule the imitated object, which may be a work of art, the work of an author or genre, as well as the manner of performance and characteristic external features of the performer. For a simple example, the anime "Isekai Quartet" is a parody.

Fujino just took the personage and mixed them with shit, completely changing their characters, behavior and motivation.:cautious:

If Inoda had been given Kirito's cloak and sword, it would have been a parody of Kirito. And if Kirito was turned into a blind vegetable and Asuna into a dumb whore, this is not a parody of Kirito and Asuna, this is some kind of grotesque plagiarism with complete indifference to the original work. :FacePalm:
Well brother you never saw me saying that Fujino did a great job with his parody, the concept in simple terms is just to make fun and also just subvert the original IP, a good example is Space Balls and Star Wars that was a perfect parody.

Fujino used the SAO universe, change the facts and chronology came up with some parody ideas, like the council as the criminal faction inside SAO canon, but parody like i said can also be used just to subvert the original concept here instead of a uplifiting characters, light mood Story like we have from SAO, we have a bunch of whores, retarded Male characters and Inoda, but yet this is a parody although not a good one.
 
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i agree with you, but the main point of this game is to humiliate kirito and steal every girl he loves and knows. it's clear that the dev of this game hates kirito, that's the main plot of this game after all - i.e. to humiliate kirito in every way. it's also not an original story, and that's why i said it's really not worth it to expect anything +ve since it was already clear from p-1
I don't know if it's really hatred or just a fetish of destroying all couples or Fujino had some experience with the main character otherwise it doesn't explain why it continues to throw shit at them, as if Kirito is an annoying character for him who would bring all the evil in the world upon him
 
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I don't know if it's really hatred or just a fetish of destroying all couples or Fujino had some experience with the main character otherwise it doesn't explain why it continues to throw shit at them, as if Kirito is an annoying character for him who would bring all the evil in the world upon him
it's not just this game, there are even more fucked up shit because of rule 34. this game isn't even that extreme as compared to those things out there. the dev of this game makes good animation by using koikatsu models, that's the only reason i play his games. i've also supported him in the past before he moved to nippon
 

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How do you expect the game to end, with Kirito slumped on the floor with a stick up his ass and Inoda pressing his foot on his head surrounded by sluts?
 

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i agree with you, but the main point of this game is to humiliate kirito and steal every girl he loves and knows. it's clear that the dev of this game hates kirito, that's the main plot of this game after all - i.e. to humiliate kirito in every way. it's also not an original story, and that's why i said it's really not worth it to expect anything +ve since it was already clear from p-1
Really? Is the main goal of the game to humiliate Kirito? Back then, Fujino should have made a game in which Mistress Asuna rapes Kirito with a strap-on. It would have humiliated him much more.

I think the main goal of the game is the complete fall of Asuna and several other characters into the depths of lust. Kirito's humiliation is a byproduct of the player's perception. And at the same time, Fujino has written down the relationship between Asuna and Kirito so poorly (he relies more on numbers in statistics) that all the humiliation Kirito could have received in this situation simply crumbles to dust.

Simply put, if Fujino really wanted to humiliate Kirito, then he should have handled Kirito and Asuna's relationship a little differently. Unfortunately, Fujino obviously hasn't improved since the days of the insta-corruption games. The only way Kirito is humiliated in this game is that he is forced to play the role of a silent observer.
 
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Well brother you never saw me saying that Fujino did a great job with his parody, the concept in simple terms is just to make fun and also just subvert the original IP, a good example is Space Balls and Star Wars that was a perfect parody.

Fujino used the SAO universe, change the facts and chronology came up with some parody ideas, like the council as the criminal faction inside SAO canon, but parody like i said can also be used just to subvert the original concept here instead of a uplifiting characters, light mood Story like we have from SAO, we have a bunch of whores, retarded Male characters and Inoda, but yet this is a parody although not a good one.
"Parody" is too noble a word for that. I don't think that hundreds of years of parody comedy development are worthy of Fujino's contribution. :LOL:

I'll just say how I perceive it - Fujino took Kirito, injected him with sedatives, then he took Asuna and cleared her brain with electrotherapy from the middle of the 20th century, then put them in a box, piled a whole plate of shit in the form of Inoda on top and started shaking this box frantically. I don't even know what to call it. A pieceofshitfiction?:unsure:

The most interesting thing is, you know what? Only one character remained practically the same as he was in the original. This is Sugo, the same evil degenerate as in the canon. Apparently he got into this game so late that he didn't have time to roll around in the shit much. :FacePalm:

(for those who don't fully understand, I'm not saying that the game is crap, I'm talking about Fujino's attitude towards original creativity.)
 

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"Parody" is too noble a word for that. I don't think that hundreds of years of parody comedy development are worthy of Fujino's contribution. :LOL:

I'll just say how I perceive it - Fujino took Kirito, injected him with sedatives, then he took Asuna and cleared her brain with electrotherapy from the middle of the 20th century, then put them in a box, piled a whole plate of shit in the form of Inoda on top and started shaking this box frantically. I don't even know what to call it. A pieceofshitfiction?:unsure:

The most interesting thing is, you know what? Only one character remained practically the same as he was in the original. This is Sugo, the same evil degenerate as in the canon. Apparently he got into this game so late that he didn't have time to roll around in the shit much. :FacePalm:

(for those who don't fully understand, I'm not saying that the game is crap, I'm talking about Fujino's attitude towards original creativity.)
That's is the point, everyone thinks only about comedy when they talk about parodys, but parody also can be use with Drama and just goes by another name "subversion", but in the end is also a type of parody.

The problem for canon fans is the fact Fujino used many canon elements the way they are without changes to fill the gaps in his plot, but in the spirty of dramatic parody he is allow to do that, the objective here is not make you laugh but make you angry and offended.

Fujino idea/argument was very simple, "what if Asuna was a covert whore" and went from there.
 
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The game should be called Sword Art Online The Harlot's Awakening since Asuna has come out of her shell and shown who she really is.
 

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Hey there, i am stuck at 6/19 Friday. I am looking at the reminder section in the phone and it says go home but when i go there, there is nothing to interact. And i already searched every location avaible, there is nothing to do. Can anyone help me? if so, i would appreciate it.
 
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Really? Is the main goal of the game to humiliate Kirito? Back then, Fujino should have made a game in which Mistress Asuna rapes Kirito with a strap-on. It would have humiliated him much more.

I think the main goal of the game is the complete fall of Asuna and several other characters into the depths of lust. Kirito's humiliation is a byproduct of the player's perception. And at the same time, Fujino has written down the relationship between Asuna and Kirito so poorly (he relies more on numbers in statistics) that all the humiliation Kirito could have received in this situation simply crumbles to dust.

Simply put, if Fujino really wanted to humiliate Kirito, then he should have handled Kirito and Asuna's relationship a little differently. Unfortunately, Fujino obviously hasn't improved since the days of the insta-corruption games. The only way Kirito is humiliated in this game is that he is forced to play the role of a silent observer.
well yeah, the dev is a bad writer. and most players don't really care since he's a good animator. literally 90% of the players who play this game either want good animation of the scenes or inoda getting all the girls since he's the chad with all the plot armor in this game :LOL:
 
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Hey there, i am stuck at 6/19 Friday. I am looking at the reminder section in the phone and it says go home but when i go there, there is nothing to interact. And i already searched every location avaible, there is nothing to do. Can anyone help me? if so, i would appreciate it.
You are not the first to mention 6/19. Each time the author releases an update, he corrects errors, but new ones appear. If no trigger is triggered after you return home, then this is probably a bug. Try going to bed or taking a shower. If nothing works, then all that remains is either to find a 6/20 save or to start a new game from the next day.
 
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Fujino idea/argument was very simple, "what if Asuna was a covert whore" and went from there.
In that case, Fujino should have made a game in which Asuna would really be a whore. I mean, her fucked several men.

Fujino's idea was most likely - "what if, I add an OP character there, when interacting with whom the critical thinking of everyone around will drop to zero":ROFLMAO:
 

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You are not the first to mention 6/19. Each time the author releases an update, he corrects errors, but new ones appear. If no trigger is triggered after you return home, then this is probably a bug. Try going to bed or taking a shower. If nothing works, then all that remains is either to find a 6/20 save or to start a new game from the next day.
Such a shame, thank you anyway i think i will start from 6/20 like you proposed
 
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