mos555

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I don't understand why some people think the author hates Kirito more than he should for the NTR genre.
And all the teasing about a small penis or poor stamina is a standard NTR tool to show that the protagonist is morally down and willing to admit that her boyfriend is very bad in bed.
For games where the girl is taken away by some jealous, bitter arsehole, the comparison is normal. The asshole wants to show the protagonist that even though she loves and dates the protagonist, her body really recognises only the asshole as a sexual partner, and the ideal protagonist can't give the whore what she wants.
If Inoda had cum in Kirito's coffee or ordered Asuna to make out with Kirito after she rimmed, then yes, you could say that the main character's humiliation in the game is above the norm or something. But Inoda just enjoys corrupting Asuna and morally destroying her.
And you have to realise that the story is seen through the point of view of Inoda, who is ugly and insignificant compared to the perfect Kirito. Inoda wants to prolong this victory over Kirito.
So I can't relate Fujino's dislike of Kirito to this at all and what it even is.
Of course, we won't be able to determine exactly how Fujino feels about Kirito.

But it is very noticeable that there are too many scenes of Kirito's humiliation in the game. You can exclude the scenes with Asuna because they are necessary, but here are the scenes with the rest of the girls... Most of them don't play any role at all, they have no contribution to the plot, no value for the development of Asuna's passion and lust, and no objective value in the actual staging of the scenes, because the players realized in the first part that Kirito was bad at sex. It was not necessary to put such an emphasis on this in the second part. In fact, at this point in the game, Kirito is just a camera on feet, and to focus so much attention and spend so much time trying to show us how bad he is at sex - is a little too much.

From this, we can conclude that either Fujino is trying to rebealize Kirito - even with a small penis, he has a harem (but to be honest, I doubt it), or he is preparing the ground for Kirito's even greater humiliation in the end, which, I repeat, does not matter at all, because what Asuna abandoning\getting pregnant\forcing Kirito to be a willing cuckold is enough to humiliating Kirito. That is, as a conclusion, for some reason Fujino is fixated on Kirito's constant humiliation. Fujino expressed his opinion about 2 of the 3 main characters, but for some reason completely ignored Kirito. Even if Fujino has an opinion about Kirito, it's unlikely that he can express sympathy or hatred directly.
 

mos555

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I wonder what Inoda would do if Asuna met someone with that size? :LOL:
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Sigh, now that the game is approaching its end, will Kirito have sex with another girl irl? I want to believe he will, since he has now openly received a footjob, so it seems like the moral barrier shouldn’t be an obstacle anymore.
I have a theory that Kirito, voluntarily and consciously, will never have sex with anyone in the real world. As another level of humiliation. Either he will be interrupted at the most important moment, or he will be afraid that Asuna will discover him, or Inoda, as always, will find out about everything and will blackmail him.

This is just a theory. I base this judgment on the fact that Fujino seems to be slowing down Kirito's progress towards sex. For example, nothing prevented him from eliminating Sinon in the last update and leaving Suguha and Kirito alone so that they could move on, but in the end there was a regression. Well... Let's see what happens next.
 
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I think it's the memory rewriting. It's one thing to take Kirito's future with Asuna away, but to take his past away as well, it seems especially cruel to me. It feels like an attack on the canon itself, more than anything else in this game. I don't know if this sort of thing is the norm for NTR games since I don't really play them (playing this was how I learned I don't like NTR). But why even include a storyline like this unless you really hated the guy?
I think you're misunderstanding that memory rewrite episode. You see Kirito's humiliation, but I primarily see it as a way to make Asuna more conspiratorial and make her like Inoda a little bit, and a bridge to Asuna helping Inoda corrupt Liz.
Also, you're exaggerating the significance of the memory rewrite too much. The past hasn't changed, Kirito's past hasn't changed. It's just that the current Asuna was made to think she met Inoda back in SAO.
And in general in NTR the protagonist can't be in any way not humiliated, it's impossible. Because his love smiles sweetly at him and says she loves him, while she is fucking someone else and sucking someone else's cock.
 
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I think you're misunderstanding that memory rewrite episode. You see Kirito's humiliation, but I primarily see it as a way to make Asuna more conspiratorial and make her like Inoda a little bit, and a bridge to Asuna helping Inoda corrupt Liz.
Also, you're exaggerating the significance of the memory rewrite too much. The past hasn't changed, Kirito's past hasn't changed. It's just that the current Asuna was made to think she met Inoda back in SAO.
And in general in NTR the protagonist can't be in any way not humiliated, it's impossible. Because his love smiles sweetly at him and says she loves him, while she is fucking someone else and sucking someone else's cock.
To add it seemed to me at least the whole memory rewrite thing isn't impacting Asuna irl but I guess we have to wait and see what the next updates do
 

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To add it seemed to me at least the whole memory rewrite thing isn't impacting Asuna irl but I guess we have to wait and see what the next updates do
It does. Inoda mentioned helping Liz, saying that Asuna had promised to help him back in SAO. :KEK:
 

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To add it seemed to me at least the whole memory rewrite thing isn't impacting Asuna irl but I guess we have to wait and see what the next updates do
It does. Inoda mentioned helping Liz, saying that Asuna had promised to help him back in SAO. :KEK:
The thing is that when the update with the memory rewrite thing dropped, it actually SEEMED like it was gonna be a much bigger deal than it ended up being, to the point a ton of people complained, and in fact quite a few are convinced that Fujino acctually backpedaled and decided to make it affect Asuna way less than it originally seemed because of all the backslash, though of course there is no way to prove that and that it wasn't Fujino's idea from the beginning, same with how what happened with Suguha was 100% his idea despite what others think XP
 

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The thing is that when the update with the memory rewrite thing dropped, it actually SEEMED like it was gonna be a much bigger deal than it ended up being, to the point a ton of people complained, and in fact quite a few are convinced that Fujino acctually backpedaled and decided to make it affect Asuna way less than it originally seemed because of all the backslash, though of course there is no way to prove that and that it wasn't Fujino's idea from the beginning, same with how what happened with Suguha was 100% his idea despite what others think XP
Didn't fujino got rid of hebishima because of backlash as well?

Makes me kinda wish that suguha has been kept in the NTR loops as well xD:p
 

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Help please, I need to save the first part after the fireworks, I can't get it on PC, Android, neither here nor there. :(((((
 

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I think you're misunderstanding that memory rewrite episode. You see Kirito's humiliation, but I primarily see it as a way to make Asuna more conspiratorial and make her like Inoda a little bit, and a bridge to Asuna helping Inoda corrupt Liz.
Also, you're exaggerating the significance of the memory rewrite too much. The past hasn't changed, Kirito's past hasn't changed. It's just that the current Asuna was made to think she met Inoda back in SAO.
And in general in NTR the protagonist can't be in any way not humiliated, it's impossible. Because his love smiles sweetly at him and says she loves him, while she is fucking someone else and sucking someone else's cock.
For me it had a huge change. Asuna actually commenting on how she is only with Kirito now out of owing him, instead of being in love with him. Again I think it depends if you care about the emotional weight of her decisions. It honestly didn't even feel like cheating anymore, more just her stuck with some guy and wanting to be with Inoda.
 
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mos555

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For me it had a huge change. Asuna actually commenting on how she is only with Kirito now out of owing him, instead of being in love with him. Again I think it depends if you care about the emotional weight of her decisions. It honestly didn't even feel like cheating anymore, more just her stuck with some guy and wanting to be with Inoda.
The fact that the players do not see a strong influence of the "memory change" on the events of the game suggests that the "memory change" itself was not necessary. But it's worth considering that even if there aren't any significant changes in the latest update, the overall impact on the meta-events of the entire game simply defies comprehension. Even if this is all a consequence of the "self-rationalization" of Asuna's memory, it is already obvious that the events of the first and second parts before version 0.85 do not matter at all. For 2 years we've been watching NTR between Kirito and Asuna, but in the end it turns out that Asuna has been cheating on Inoda all this time, and this is a Netori game in which NTR bully (Kirito) is defeated, and the real lovers Asuna and Inoda finally find happiness.

That's the big difference between "changing memory" and on own Asuna's corruption. Just a knife in the back for those who have been following this since the first part(for those who were interested in slow corruption and the plot, and not for those who came just to jerk off). Although okay, I've felt disappointed since version 0.55 and it's been slowly accumulating...
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Hebishima was removed after polling people, some wave of hate wasn't there. Too bad, it was funny to see him banging Sinon or Suguha.
What, seriously ? Screen time should have been increased for him in this case !
 

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If he wanted Hebishima to work the best option wouldve been to just focus on Sinon. I think the actual hate came from him banging Suguha. I've seen on numerous pages in this thread the absolute love people have for her and how she should be stealing Kirito from Asuna instead of being stolen herself. It's understandable but in my opinion the yandere factor for her would have to be increased a bit more. She's way too passive right now for it to really work.
 

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Quick question after this game is finished, isnt fujino gonna finish the FATE series? becouse after the sakura chapter game ending it was not over until the next game and as far i know fujino said after finishing this game he is gonna continue with the FATE game. But i am seeing people saying he is gonna make a new game based in popular animes like rent a girlfirend, naruto, etc. So is he really gonna make a new anime game after this one or he gonna continue with the sakura chapter continuation?.

And also this is my first time playing this game and i know this game is fully ntr but does kirito have sex with other girls too?.
 

mos555

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Kirito does have sex with other women and the other women likes it!
And also this is my first time playing this game and i know this game is fully ntr but does kirito have sex with other girls too?.
Sex with other girls was practically only in FOG, and if I'm not mistaken, then the game had some kind of help system for sex. Well, to be honest, I didn't see the delight on Sinon's faces (her sly smile at the moment of sex doesn't show whether she likes it or not at all) or Liz (a look of mild regret seems to prove that it wasn't very good), especially Liz's words after sex in the massage parlor that it was fast again. In real life, other than Asuna, sex was only with Suguha, but the hidden camera video didn't show whether she liked it or not. And Suguha can't be used as a marker, because she's a yandere. Kirito might even spit in her face and she'd be thrilled. This is exaggerated, of course.

So, I'm not really sure what the girls liked. We need to wait for sex in real life and then it will be clear. Fujino, for all his flaws, works very well on facial expressions in Koikatsu, so it will be seen whether the girl liked it or not (again, Suguha does not count ).:LOL:
 
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