gaka200

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Regarding Liz's downfall, it was clear from the start that Inoda would eventually be able to control her, thanks to the effect of the bracelet. When she first described the bracelet's effect, it seemed like a good idea. At the time of its release, people even praised the concept because it fit Liz's character and the overall plot.
The problem is how it was executed. Many people were guessing how Inoda would outsmart her, but what we got was Yui leading Inoda to a specific map. For some reason, the developers hadn't deleted it, and conveniently, it contained equipment that turned girls into succubi (whaaaaat?!). On top of that, Yui then altered the potion's effect to the point where its stats became superior to Liz's.
It's all too "convenient," which makes it uninteresting.
Remember how Inoda used to buy sleeping potions from a shop to have his way with Asuna? He knew the game well and would put them in disadvantageous battles just to get his hands on Asuna again.
He knew about the underground street and could have known about forbidden items. There are forbidden items like HSVA-03 (the scene where Sinon gives Kirito a blowjob). Inoda could have obtained some item or potion behind the scenes, perhaps even by contacting the council, not necessarily a high-ranking member. Those two guys who threatened Sinon were just ordinary members, yet they had access to such items.
Also, are there really no other blacksmiths in the game besides Liz? Couldn't someone in the underground have altered the bracelet's effect, added some extra conditions for it to work, or created another item that would help him? For example, a ring or a necklace that would gradually increase the wearer's affection for the person who gave it to them. This is essentially a similar item to what we ended up with, but how Inoda would have acquired it and how it would have gradually taken effect would have been much more interesting. Fujino just took the easy way out.
I'm not really here to argue about whether what ended up happening was interesting or not to some people. Was mainly just pointing out how the Liz scene wasn't "literally out of nowhere". And also it's not "fast" because Liz didn't go from 0 to 100 and becoming Inoda's slut. There's a lot of nonsense to explain the situation, and whether that's acceptable to someone or not, that's on them. I didn't think the succubi outfit and switcheroo were inherently interesting and/or clever, but I did find the situation hot, and liked Liz's inner monologue. But yeah, I wasn't really talking about things being convenient or not convenient.

Anyways, I don't really have to argue/debate back regarding your other points, since I don't think they have much to do with what I was talking about in the post I said. However I will point out that I never really had the impression that Inoda was extremely clever. Your ideas sound interesting, but they also sound like the ideas of someone not Inoda. A lot of Inoda's clever plans/ideas do feel like a lot of convenient situations where Inoda is "failing upwards" more often than not. If someone refers back to Part 1, there are definitely a few times Inoda got things right, but then also had shit bite him back in the ass. He was definitely more clever in Part 1 compared to Part 2, but I wouldn't say clever enough to actually be out smarting people and doing special plans. Most times everyone is too stupid around Inoda, or in Part 2, Kirito isn't allowed to be suspicious anymore. A lot of things are convenient for Inoda and that's just kind of how it's been.
 

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This is how I feel—it’s like when Demon Slayer ends an episode right at the peak. Demon Slayer cuts off in a way that’s exciting and makes you want to keep watching, with the timing of the cliffhanger feeling perfect.


With SAO Ver 0.95, the ending didn’t give me that same feeling at all. It leaned more negative. After thinking it over, maybe this update wasn’t the absolute worst, but what really made it disappointing was the expectation. Many people believed that unprotected sex would definitely happen in this update, and I had that same expectation too. But it didn’t happen. Fujino cut it off abruptly, taking us back to the start screen instead.


And honestly—does unprotected sex even make sense in that kind of setting? It didn’t feel all that interesting in the first place.
I don’t think unprotected sex should happen at Kirito’s apartment.”
I screamed inside my head, “No way… it’s over already? :ROFLMAO:
 
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I going to make an theory without any real evidence. I believe Fujino gave up on interesting plot points because no one appreciates them. I am making a broad assumption that most of his fans want more sex scenes and don't stick around to find/figure out the details. We all know Fujino is capable of setting up plot points that builds up to something interesting. I still remember how Fujino hinted how Inoda got Asuna to forgive him by spreading the clues between the various NPC dialogues and Asuna's locations as Kirito moved through the maps. It was one of the coolest details I ever found in an hentai game. But I bet most people didn't understand it so Fujino had to add an scene to spell out how it happened. Since people don't play the game to get the details Fujino just decided to make quick and easy situations to move the plot along so more time can be used to make sex scenes. It is disappointing for people like us who play to find every little detail but if the majority of the people only want more sex scenes then Fujino had to prioritize his time to gave the majority of people what they want. :cry:
I don't really know if I'd personally believe that theory and more that this is just showcasing that Fujino isn't really a great writer like some people feel like he's always been. I do agree there's a lot of great moments though so it's not like he's not good at what he does. But the way his plot points connect to each other were probably things set up a long time ago, is why I mention that they're just showcasing that Fujino isn't high up the pedestal that people seemed to have him at. I still very much enjoy a lot of the stuff that Fujino has outputted though, so you won't see me complain much, other than the recent mind alteration thing with Asuna. Like Fujino decided to go out of their way to explain it's not full on brain washing and not as deep as people might take it as, and I think that's cause Fujino is decently invested in their own plot ideas. The issue is that, they're not necessarily really good ones.

The way the story is panning out, a lot of this was setup in advance, so whether people like it or not, it was probably going to happen the way it did. For example the hints about Yui being mentioned dramatically earlier does mean that Fujino was planning to go down this route of corrupting Yui and making her think Inoda is her dad, which then ultimately does mean Inoda has a deus ex machina in his hands, because face it, we all were debating back then about how most of us hated the idea of bringing Yui into the story. Yui's too OP to really make anything make sense. It's either she gets corrupted, distracted, or Inoda loses because Yui would be able to see the BS he's doing. If Yui isn't able to see through Inoda's concealment magic, then that would just be more bad/inconsistent writing just for Inoda to get away with whatever they want. But anyways, since Yui was apparently planned a long time ago to be corrupted in Inoda's favor, a lot of stupid convenient deus ex machina shenanigans were probably already planned with Yui in mind.

Some other stuff I'd like to point out is that Fujino has mentioned a few times that they're going to stick with their plan on how the story is going to get written, so this is kind of how it is I think.

On a positive note, while some people probably didn't like how abruptly fast/weird the Liz scene was like, I did like Liz having some sense of agency and/or control throughout the scene. She doesn't physically have control to resist, but she did seem like she had a plan and/or method to break out while Inoda was banging her. Instead of doing that though, Liz stays true to how she's been acting most of the game, and that's her trying to sneakily win Kirito over. So I did like that she decided to stop resisting and take advantage of Inoda's temporary control over her just to see how Kirito viewed her, and she does get rewarded with her shrewd thinking (if you gave into her as Kirito).
 

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This is how I feel—it’s like when Demon Slayer ends an episode right at the peak. Demon Slayer cuts off in a way that’s exciting and makes you want to keep watching, with the timing of the cliffhanger feeling perfect.


With SAO Ver 0.95, the ending didn’t give me that same feeling at all. It leaned more negative. After thinking it over, maybe this update wasn’t the absolute worst, but what really made it disappointing was the expectation. Many people believed that unprotected sex would definitely happen in this update, and I had that same expectation too. But it didn’t happen. Fujino cut it off abruptly, taking us back to the start screen instead.


And honestly—does unprotected sex even make sense in that kind of setting? It didn’t feel all that interesting in the first place.
I don’t think unprotected sex should happen at Kirito’s apartment.”
I screamed inside my head, “No way… it’s over already? :ROFLMAO:
I think the abrupt ending for sure screwed it up for a lot of people. There's some things I liked about this update, but even that threw me off and left me confused going "that's it?!?!?!"
 

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Here I am defending Fujino again!
What makes Fujino’s writing stand out is how the story develops. A good story isn’t about being “realistic” all the time—it’s about moving people’s emotions. Think about Lord of the Rings, Dragon Ball, even Hamlet—all of them have plenty of parts that don’t really make sense logically, but that doesn’t stop them from being great works.
If Fujino were truly such a terrible writer, if his stories were really that worthless, then there wouldn’t be so many discussions about them. People don’t waste their time writing long essays about how bad shit tastes—because it’s pointless. The fact that people praise, criticize, argue, and debate about Fujino’s work is proof in itself that he’s doing something right.
 

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I think the abrupt ending for sure screwed it up for a lot of people. There's some things I liked about this update, but even that threw me off and left me confused going "that's it?!?!?!"
The 'back to title screen' at the end is clearly Fujino's idea of humour. Given Kirito's position and the hidden parts of the apartment exterior, it's clear that while he's on the phone, Asuna and Inoda are doing what happened with the title.
 
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The 'back to title screen' at the end is clearly Fujino's idea of humour. Given Kirito's position and the hidden parts of the apartment exterior, it's clear that while he's on the phone, Asuna and Inoda are doing what happened with the title.
Yeah, I was able to figure it out eventually, but just describing my initial knee jerk reaction was probably the same as others to it rofl.
 
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yea, kind of agree.
Fujino was rightfully crowned as one of the best NTR writers.

But the hypnosis (this includes magic potion, mind overwriting, etc) trope in NTRs is a sign of amateur or lazy writing as it kills any sense of achievement for corruption.

unrelated topic, that GIF that you were using what part of the game it was? i can't remember this scene
 

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yea, kind of agree.
Fujino was rightfully crowned as one of the best NTR writers.

But the hypnosis (this includes magic potion, mind overwriting, etc) trope in NTRs is a sign of amateur or lazy writing as it kills any sense of achievement for corruption.
Pretty much. Any time when Hypnosis/ Mind Control is introduced or defaulted on, it's usually a sign that the writer/ author is lost or doesn't know what to do to either speed something up or just to get it out there because nothing else would work. It can be incredibly lazy as well.

I kinda saw it coming when they were all in Yui's "Memories" as she slept trying to reboot which possibly turns out it was Asuna's memories because it makes no sense how the mind control/ history rewrite of the memory inadvertently affected Asuna, but the precursor to that was during the trials obviously which I really hoped I could ignore.

I was hoping that Yui would be the catalyst to Kirito awakening to a power that lets him see past events as part of a skill, this would probably satisfy some people who wanted Kirito to awaken to a realization that he enjoys being cucked as opposed to being perpetually oblivious -- though that's not what I want for myself, I prefer the cuck to be perpetually oblivious because after that it just becomes boring, sad & pathetic cuckolding which strays way too far from Kirito's cannon character, Kirito's cannon character would fight for Asuna to save her not be some pathetic loser and accept being cucked as if he's satisfied with owning Asuna's heart while Inoda "took care" of Asuna's bodily urges of carnal desire.

So the plot twist I was personally more interested in seeing was the Goddess of FOG being on Kirito's side where players eventually have a choice to decide on revenge or going back to a point in time where the corruption didn't happen or perhaps choosing to be stuck inside of an area of FOG where he can't tell the difference between the game and reality where the Goddess is keeping him to save his sanity. Basically the choice is either the decision for Kirito to compete against Inoda to take Asuna back by defeating him, or to accept that he's lost Asuna and choose going with the Goddess in complete despair in favor of choosing living the rest of his life in a game where he's happy as opposed to going back to real life.

Such an idea/ theme would allow for a sequel possibly where Asuna fights to bring him back.

But, I'm just a fan consumer, so it's not like I can directly inject my ideas into a game that I have no say in much less a talent for creating my own.
 

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Hello everyone again!
After reading the comments, I couldn't resist and decided to download and play the update. By the way, nothing froze or crashed even once. Well, after playing I have one question... What didn't you all like? ))) Well, yes, it's short. But, as I wrote yesterday, Fujino is probably really pressed for time for this game. Even if he's not making preliminary graphics for the next game yet, he still needs to write a script. Imagine that you need to write a script for a game that you'll be making for 2 years. Plus a new script with new characters, much more interesting than this one that's been dragging on for 3 years already. Returning to the update. I still don't like that the author raised Inode's stats in this way. Most likely, this won't play any role anymore, but the very fact that this is possible in this world kills the whole point. Well, Liz's figure could have been made slimmer without those ridiculous huge boobs, although in the scene itself it's not particularly striking. And now to the point. I understand that everything in this world is an acquired taste, but the scene with Liz is simply top notch. Specifically for me, it easily outshines the scenes with Asuna from the last 2-3 updates. Well, maybe except for the last night in SAO, although the first half of the scene there is pretty dull too. Asuna in a bunny costume is crap, Asuna in a maid costume is crap. Asuna in the bathroom is dull. All the scenes in the memories, except for the last one, are nonsense. Well, in the kitchen, it's still okay. All the scenes with her are of the C category - Let's fuck. Oh, I don't want to. No, come on!, Oh, okay, but this is the last time. Yes, yes, the last time. Oh okay, Let's do it again. I told you I don't want to, NO, come on. Okay, come on. Oh, how good! But this is the last time... And so on in a circle, scene after scene. Update after update. And here is a real bomb! The fact that Inoda simply told her what to do and she did it. The fact that Liz feels how Inoda wants to fuck her and this is transmitted to her and she herself falls into this sexual madness - the whole idea is fire! The only thing is, I would like more different CG for this scene. Well, about the gameplay of the update itself - this is also better than the previous ones. What were you doing there? Kirito got out of bed, went to the computer. Went to work. At lunch, watched a video from the hotel. Went to work, watched the video again before leaving work. Listened to Asuna's moans on the phone. Came home. Chatted online. Went to FOG. Went to bed. The last 7-8 game days, like a carbon copy. And here you could at least run as other characters in a new location. Get interaction between them and reveal them in the process of dialogues. Yes, the characters themselves do not evoke any positive emotions, but they are better and more interesting than Kirito's "Groundhog Day". It's a pity that it is short. Or I would even say, it's a pity that at this rate this game will not be finished for another year... But in general, it is interesting for me, varied and the scene is excellent. By the way, I didn't even watch the scene with Asuna. Probably some kind of tediousness again))) I'll probably watch it next week. Good luck to everyone and have a good time until the next update!
 

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I'm crazy. Or before going to the apartment it appears that Asuna is having sex with 2 at the same time?
No, the 'head' portion of the main menu is bugged, it happened for me too, if you keep checking since before having gone to the recollection room the previous night, it's been stuck on Asuna deepthroating Inoda since it happened the previous day.
 

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bro whats with this chicken keep asking me about this things when ill play with my save games its error or what? any help?
You specifcailly can't use previous save games whenever an update drops, this has been that way from a long time, if you try to do it, it breaks the game XD Fujino either drops a save alongside the update or tells us to start the game with New Game and then into a specific chapter since a while back because of this.
 

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No es de extrañar, dado que incorpora numerosas canciones con derechos de autor de grandes bandas como Arctic Monkeys y de animes populares, cualquiera de las cuales podría, con una sola queja, arruinar por completo su juego y causarle numerosos problemas legales. Simplemente eliminarlas no sería suficiente. Considerando este patrón, tampoco sorprende que no reconozca a los animadores.
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What game is that image from?
 
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anyone save full save from v9.0
You specifcailly can't use previous save games whenever an update drops, this has been that way from a long time, if you try to do it, it breaks the game XD Fujino either drops a save alongside the update or tells us to start the game with New Game and then into a specific chapter since a while back because of this.

i get it ill play which chapter from start new game lmao didnt notice that
 
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