RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [verβ1] [Fujino]

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Novel - your choices do not matter here. There is no literal connection of what choices do matter here between chapters? Care to explain instead of be the another one opposing force?

Game - there is no known influence on what you do with Main Character, you always start with same stats in chapters, you do not influence the world, you do not have access to your inventory, so i say that this is just but the Novel but in Game Engine environment

Therefore, i say very bad decision in process of making this Novel.

Actually, there is, your choices DO influence outcomes because depending on which ones you make the 'bars' change and so Kirito's ending will be different (Granted, they're minimal overall and you can't change Asuna's fate no matter what, but Fujino long-since made it obvious that the choices in how you make Kirito treat the girls influence the final ending you get, that's why we have started getting scenes that go different if you have Kirito be 'faithful' to Asuna or not or you start making him openly cheat on her). Mind you, it's badly implemented because you actually get LESS content by aiming for an ending/making Kirito be 'loyal', but that's probably why Fujino added the option of easy replay and being able to start at specific points of the plot with whichever choices regarding the girls you want, in case someone wants a quick replay to get another ending/see another outcome for a scene XP

 

[mos555]

Very little time has passed, and here the feminine Kirito and the gender-bender Kirito are already in full power. And the trap-Kirito. The latter sometimes makes me feel worried about my heterosexuality...

 

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[ozthesorcerer]

I'm stuck in an "event battle" where I'm fighting against "the evil spirits of..." I can only use an attack called "nightmare" while Asuna and Idona are bugged behind (I say this because they no longer speak dialogue or advance in their actions) any idea how this was solved at the time?

 

[Mr Technician]

Actually, there is, your choices DO influence outcomes because depending on which ones you make the 'bars' change and so Kirito's ending will be different (Granted, they're minimal overall and you can't change Asuna's fate no matter what, but Fujino long-since made it obvious that the choices in how you make Kirito treat the girls influence the final ending you get, that's why we have started getting scenes that go different if you have Kirito be 'faithful' to Asuna or not or you start making him openly cheat on her). Mind you, it's badly implemented because you actually get LESS content by aiming for an ending/making Kirito be 'loyal', but that's probably why Fujino added the option of easy replay and being able to start at specific points of the plot with whichever choices regarding the girls you want, in case someone wants a quick replay to get another ending/see another outcome for a scene XP

Ok, if that's the case i would be super happy that would be at least something influencing the outcomes. I had the feeling something is off. It would seem that the implementation would be to blame. Yep, it never crossed my mind that anything is different. Definitely after i never have seen dialogues to change at all. Even replaying some between chapters i had got just the feeling - you can go for more sex scenes or not to view them, maybe influence the rest of the girls by hitting on them... More likely the Anxiety bars or Prudence - those fluctuate for sure. Wondering now if it would be only the bars + some choices (girls) in the game. But for the favor i will start to name it Game Novel from now on. I would say it would be fair for now(?).
So the factors should be:
1. Anxiety / Prudence
2. Hitting on other Girls or not
3. Going brothel/Church prostitution
4. First choice: someone significant / girlfriend

Do i miss on something else? Because stats with sex and Perks seem not to change between chapters (they change exactly the same in same situations). And the MC have got no influence on this one. As long as only Golden Boy is taking care of both of them.

 

[Mr Technician]

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He's asking her to marry him. Classic NTR ending.

And she says:
OH YES! Ah yes! Ah-ah-ah! OH GOD YES!

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

Ok, if that's the case i would be super happy that would be at least something influencing the outcomes. I had the feeling something is off. It would seem that the implementation would be to blame. Yep, it never crossed my mind that anything is different. Definitely after i never have seen dialogues to change at all. Even replaying some between chapters i had got just the feeling - you can go for more sex scenes or not to view them, maybe influence the rest of the girls by hitting on them... More likely the Anxiety bars or Prudence - those fluctuate for sure. Wondering now if it would be only the bars + some choices (girls) in the game. But for the favor i will start to name it Game Novel from now on. I would say it would be fair for now(?).
So the factors should be:
1. Anxiety / Prudence
2. Hitting on other Girls or not
3. Going brothel/Church prostitution
4. First choice: someone significant / girlfriend

Do i miss on something else? Because stats with sex and Perks seem not to change between chapters (they change exactly the same in same situations). And the MC have got no influence on this one. As long as only Golden Boy is taking care of both of them.

Okay, because you obviously came into this game/thread quite late, I can at least give you the rundown of what we KNOW for a fact about the game's final bits:

-Game was confirmed to have multiple endings since the beginning. There is at the very least 3 endings, originally Fujino only confirmed two ("Kirito doesn't know", aka the typical unaware NTR he's a big fan of, and "Kirito becomes a willing cuck", aka he finds out but gets off Asuna being fucked by Inoda), but this was before the game properly started and the plot massively changed since then, the introduction of stuff changing depending on how you treat the other girls and Kirito actually getting 'lucky' with them basically confirmed there is at least one more ending, maybe more but we don't really know any exact details of it for now.

-Your choices regarding the other girls matter, albeit to a very small degree until late game. Essentially, Fujino started adding the option to specifically 'personalize' how you've been treating each girl in the game from Kirito's PoV after a certain point, originally there wasn't such a thing, and while very small changes so far we started getting stuff that was different depending on if you had made Kirito more willing to 'cheat' with a girl or another specifically and in general, beyond just the 'prurience' (Perversion) bar. For example, only if you have made Kirito give in to ALL the other girls' advances do you get the short dream/CG scene of him fantasizing of all other 4 girls in bed with him, while for Liz individually if you had been giving in to her advances or not her reaction after the scene where Inoda turns her into a succubus, fucks her and then brings her to 'see' Kirito (Who thinks she's just a familiar NPC who looks like Liz) changes, as it changes a bit what Kirito said about her. Another example would be how if you reject Sinon when she wanted Kirito to help her in that publicity stunt they recorded at his workplace, she will be fucking the dude she blackmailed to get that gig going, while if you don't, she will just be femdom-ing him without letting him actually touch her.

-Fujino announced a bit ago, and with the latest report confirmed, there will be 'Epilogue' content after he finishes the main game. We're still unsure of what this means, if it means he will add more ending or if it means he will add more scenes after a certain ending, all we can do is speculate on that now.

 

[Mr Technician]

AlterInfernalAllius thank you! I see. Thats why there are not so many influencing turn overs... that is confusing and definitely giving the impression that not a lot of things change at all.
Hmn, can't see them on any character screen. Or anywhere in the "game menu". That means also you cannot view the direction you are heading with the Main Character. You as a Player - may just deduct it. However, cannot confirm it.
Definitely i will gonna use cheat menu to see different endings, when they arrive. Not gonna waste 20 hours to replay same scenes or situations just to view different endings.

 

[mos555]

-Fujino announced a bit ago, and with the latest report confirmed, there will be 'Epilogue' content after he finishes the main game. We're still unsure of what this means, if it means he will add more ending or if it means he will add more scenes after a certain ending, all we can do is speculate on that now.

Some endings should have a timeskip - for example, endings that mention Asuna's pregnancy or an already born child. In short, I think most endings will have a big or small timeskip. So I think this means that each "Epilogue" will be released as a separate update or as one big update that Fujino will be doing for 2-3 months. But, it feels like he doesn't always have time to finish the game by the end of the year or the beginning of the next one.

 

[Aniky Light]

AlterInfernalAllius thank you! I see. Thats why there are not so many influencing turn overs... that is confusing and definitely giving the impression that not a lot of things change at all.
Hmn, can't see them on any character screen. Or anywhere in the "game menu". That means also you cannot view the direction you are heading with the Main Character. You as a Player - may just deduct it. However, cannot confirm it.
Definitely i will gonna use cheat menu to see different endings, when they arrive. Not gonna waste 20 hours to replay same scenes or situations just to view different endings.

I don't think you need to replay, you'll definitely see other endings in the memory room

 

[mos555]

I don't think you need to replay, you'll definitely see other endings in the memory room

Or the endings will come out one after the other and the players will watch them all anyway. Or Fujino will take a break for 3 months, as "evils" Demon Hunter did, and then release a room with endings and each player can watch them in turn and choose what they like.

 

[AlterInfernalAllius]

AlterInfernalAllius thank you! I see. Thats why there are not so many influencing turn overs... that is confusing and definitely giving the impression that not a lot of things change at all.
Hmn, can't see them on any character screen. Or anywhere in the "game menu". That means also you cannot view the direction you are heading with the Main Character. You as a Player - may just deduct it. However, cannot confirm it.
Definitely i will gonna use cheat menu to see different endings, when they arrive. Not gonna waste 20 hours to replay same scenes or situations just to view different endings.

I don't think you need to replay, you'll definitely see other endings in the memory room

Yeah, the menu was created at the beginning on the game when Asuna's plot was the only thing that really mattered, before Fujino made all the other plots more complex and then finally ended up connecting them all, so Asuna is the only thing you can see :O

Also, you DON'T need any cheat menu for this, that's the good thing: As mentioned, Fujino added an option to start the game on a specific day and ALSO to let you decide how you've been treating the girls as Kirito so far up until that point whenever you choose 'new game', which circumvents the issue of having to play the whole game again. You will literally be able to load the final day of the game and choose whichever configuration you want to on how Kirito treats the girls to see a different ending, or you can just go back to a certain day and choose to treat a girl/s differently to see a different outcome (Like the Liz one that changes depending on how you have treated her so far).

As for the rec. room thing, Aniky, I would like to point out it doesn't record different reactions to the ones you've chosen it seems, unless specifically unlocked, because I for example haven't yet seen the reaction where Liz is just depressed to Kirito after Inoda fucks her as a succubus, I have only seen the one where she cheers up/gets hope hearing he cares about her even when seen in the rec. room, so I assume it's either locked there to whichever you first choose or you need to unlock the other version manualy before seeing it there.

 

[Aniky Light]

Or the endings will come out one after the other and the players will watch them all anyway. Or Fujino will take a break for 3 months, as "evils" Demon Hunter did, and then release a room with endings and each player can watch them in turn and choose what they like.

Doc, why do you always tell me what I'm about to say? Even though mine was supposed to be a question, will Fujino do like Evils? If so, then we can confirm who's copying who xD

 

[Aniky Light]

Yeah, the menu was created at the beginning on the game when Asuna's plot was the only thing that really mattered, before Fujino made all the other plots more complex and then finally ended up connecting them all, so Asuna is the only thing you can see :O

Also, you DON'T need any cheat menu for this, that's the good thing: As mentioned, Fujino added an option to start the game on a specific day and ALSO to let you decide how you've been treating the girls as Kirito so far up until that point whenever you choose 'new game', which circumvents the issue of having to play the whole game again. You will literally be able to load the final day of the game and choose whichever configuration you want to on how Kirito treats the girls to see a different ending, or you can just go back to a certain day and choose to treat a girl/s differently to see a different outcome (Like the Liz one that changes depending on how you have treated her so far).

As for the rec. room thing, Aniky, I would like to point out it doesn't record different reactions to the ones you've chosen it seems, unless specifically unlocked, because I for example haven't yet seen the reaction where Liz is just depressed to Kirito after Inoda fucks her as a succubus, I have only seen the one where she cheers up/gets hope hearing he cares about her even when seen in the rec. room, so I assume it's either locked there to whichever you first choose or you need to unlock the other version manualy before seeing it there.

but the chicken at the end of the update doesn't say if you want to unlock all the scenes?

 

[Adoki24]

anyone have any suggestions for games like this?

 

[Mr Technician]

anyone have any suggestions for games like this?

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[mos555]

Doc, why do you always tell me what I'm about to say? Even though mine was supposed to be a question, will Fujino do like Evils? If so, then we can confirm who's copying who xD

They both like to "borrow" other people's ideas. I think fans have written Fujino a lot of personal messages saying that some "evils" are stealing his ideas, but I doubt that Fujino personally appreciated "Demon Hunter" (because there is no Inoda). Fujino's crazy fan-assholes(there was really hard bullying, I do not know if Fujino knows about it) put a lot of pressure on the poor guy, as "evils" was even very hesitant about continuing the game. But the sex during battle wasn't Fujino's idea, and the attacks on "evils" are just a manifestation of the brainlessness of a certain group of Fujino fans.

So I can't judge which option Fujino will choose and whether it will be considered a copied idea. There is a separate room with endings in many other RPGM games. There were also several games that released "epilogues" as separate parts of the game.

 

[Mr Technician]

... There were also several games that released "epilogues" as separate parts of the game.

That would be nice to see here. I wish there would be some Dungeon Crawling only version, with items, corruptions... Ofc Kirito, Asuna, Inoda. And progressive corruption but only in dungeon dwelling. Sex scenes, maybe some monsters corruption if MC "dies" or lose consciousness... Mhm.

Edit: something like opposite to SAO, where they travel higher Tower levels. Instead, they go lower into Dungeons. In a setup like

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[AlterInfernalAllius]

but the chicken at the end of the update doesn't say if you want to unlock all the scenes?

Yeah, but this only unlocks the scenes themselves, not alternatives it seems (Unless they change this next update?). I think is because the game is coded in a way that the version of a scene affected by your choices you see first is what gets 'recorded' in the rec room, maybe? For example, the Sinon/Leafa 'competing' to see who can make time-frozen Kirito cum you can see either outcome in the rec. room, no issues, but the Liz scene probably because the aftermath isn't sex/CG/animation-related it defaults to what you have seen. The scene itself of Liz getting fucked by Inoda doesn't change no matter in which version you see it, after all, it only changes Liz's little reaction to Kirito's words afterwards depending on if you've been accepting her advances or not :O

 

[kinglionheart]

but the chicken at the end of the update doesn't say if you want to unlock all the scenes?

The chicken only unlocks the scenes from before the current update. You still have to pay Anxiety to unlock the current update's scenes.

Yeah, but this only unlocks the scenes themselves, not alternatives it seems (Unless they change this next update?). I think is because the game is coded in a way that the version of a scene affected by your choices you see first is what gets 'recorded' in the rec room, maybe? For example, the Sinon/Leafa 'competing' to see who can make time-frozen Kirito cum you can see either outcome in the rec. room, no issues, but the Liz scene probably because the aftermath isn't sex/CG/animation-related it defaults to what you have seen. The scene itself of Liz getting fucked by Inoda doesn't change no matter in which version you see it, after all, it only changes Liz's little reaction to Kirito's words afterwards depending on if you've been accepting her advances or not :O

That Liz scenes seems to be depends on prurience. If you low prurience then you see Liz sad and high she will be happy. If you use the Recall in Now Game you have 0 prurience so you only see the sad version. Fujino will need a prurience changer in the Recollection room later.