Unity Taffy Tales [S1 Redux] [UberPie]

[RebelliousKnightMordred]

You can always add more content to the game; that's what the Roundscape guy did. I have no idea what truly causes some devs to do this. You make a great point about consumers though. I believe it's the consumers who bear ultimate responsibility for the bad behavior of some devs. Consumers need to pull their cash when a dev firmly establishes a pattern of laziness; same logic applies to a lot of businesses and services.

Even then if you finish a game it's not over. That's just the loser mentality of those devs. If your game is done and you want income, make another game, I'm sure the people who supported you will support that game if you keep doing what you do. You can make alternate scenarios, anything, but they all fall into this trap of thinking "if I delay my game and just make super small updates every year then people will be forced to keep giving me money to see it through to the end". They rather keep their patrons around with sunk cost fallacy than bet on any potential of their own making. A loser epidemic has broken out and it infects the spirits of us all.

 

[Crow1991]

The news has come out - please publish it)

 

[Richh123]

 

[Vanheller]

The news has come out - please publish it)

Okay, because you said please

Hi everyone!
Let’s dive into some updates and discuss our current challenges.

Right now, we’re planning to split all the accumulated content (before SubscriberStar) into three seasons.
The last half-finished update (the one we were working on before we were banned) is still on hold. In theory, we could continue the story right where it left off after the ban, just as we originally intended. For now, though, that’s a distant dream, and our focus is on shaping what we already have into a polished product.

As is common in this type of visual novel, we’ve encountered several familiar challenges and have been tackling them throughout development, with final polishing now underway. These include overly linear plot progression, an empty world, logical parallel character branches, coherent development, days with too few quests, and so on.

Of course, if we’d gone with a more cinematic gameplay style, where the player mostly watches a movie with occasional choices, none of these challenges would have come up. But, as usual, we chose a different path, and we hope you’re enjoying it so far.

Now, I’ve got a question for you: in your opinion, what do you think is the most reasonable price for the first season? Keep in mind that Steam takes a 30% cut.

As always,
Thank you all so much for your support, without you, none of this would be possible!
Love,
-The Taffy Tales Team

My note: What yall think should be the set price for the game?

 

[Richh123]

Okay, because you said please

Hi everyone!
Let’s dive into some updates and discuss our current challenges.

Right now, we’re planning to split all the accumulated content (before SubscriberStar) into three seasons.
The last half-finished update (the one we were working on before we were banned) is still on hold. In theory, we could continue the story right where it left off after the ban, just as we originally intended. For now, though, that’s a distant dream, and our focus is on shaping what we already have into a polished product.

As is common in this type of visual novel, we’ve encountered several familiar challenges and have been tackling them throughout development, with final polishing now underway. These include overly linear plot progression, an empty world, logical parallel character branches, coherent development, days with too few quests, and so on.

Of course, if we’d gone with a more cinematic gameplay style, where the player mostly watches a movie with occasional choices, none of these challenges would have come up. But, as usual, we chose a different path, and we hope you’re enjoying it so far.

Now, I’ve got a question for you: in your opinion, what do you think is the most reasonable price for the first season? Keep in mind that Steam takes a 30% cut.

As always,
Thank you all so much for your support, without you, none of this would be possible!
Love,
-The Taffy Tales Team

My note: What yall think should be the set price for the game?

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Blessings.

 

[Redelin]

Now, I’ve got a question for you: in your opinion, what do you think is the most reasonable price for the first season? Keep in mind that Steam takes a 30% cut.

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.99 cents. With free updates. Jk, they could probably do something like Dreams of Desire, between 15-20 USD, that seems reasonable. Don’t know how that game went about updates tho, whether it was free or paid DLC

 

[DogTrot]

" My note: What yall think should be the set price for the game? "

IMO it should be very little for those who have 3+ 4+ years of developmental support through patreon/subscribe star (free for higher tiers). The game has been in a constant state of redevelopment "redux" ect. with very little updates although I do understand steam will have some variations from the vanilla version those subs have supported all of this work through those platforms. Even if just paying $1 a month for 4 years (x12 months) that's already $48 assuming they did not increase their subscription to get earlier access.

For anyone else I would say $10-15 per chapter (he mentioned 3 parts so far). This would make the complete (or up to date) version $30-$45 and perhaps the final version costing $50-60. The individual chapter sales will only be good as long as that's the most up to date version. Once a new chapter comes out they need to be sold together or the previous chapter at a reduced price (this is called a product life cycle).

In a nut shell it's actually very complicated because you have to consider old and new customers, product life cycles, sales like black Friday or steam summer sale, advantages to new player acquisition at lower price points, updates and all of these will have higher and lower considerations throughout time.

 

[Stil996]

.99 cents. With free updates. Jk, they could probably do something like Dreams of Desire, between 15-20 USD, that seems reasonable. Don’t know how that game went about updates tho, whether it was free or paid DLC

why the "jk"? with a 13-37K per month average earning on patreon, which suggests he got paid around 240 thousand dollars for that last update that he took 10 months to do (based on the mean value)...
God I hate that I'm effectively on the side of the Milk Trolls now, but Uber has been milking this one hard, and now he's spent the last 7 months "getting steam ready", aka another 161 thousand US dollars so he can squeeze even more money out of this project,.. Meh!! He's already been paid more than he's worth.

BTW, I used to be a defender of his... look at me now lol, I detest Milk Trolls whining about the way other people chose to spend their money and I tend to support Devs attempts to get a fair days pay out of their projects, but Uber is just taking the piss.

 

[Trudiax]

Having myself worked in the headspace of “Oh, we gotta impress everybody with a remaster of our game assets, that’ll really show people we mean business!”, I do *get* it, but yeah… people don’t really care is what I’ve learned.

A big takeaway having worked the last 6 years in this industry, starting with Taffy Tales in fact, is that people just want the new and aren’t heavily invested in your personal progress as a developer. It’s not exciting to them in general, updates are exciting. More content to beat off to is exciting. Redux’s and remakes are the mind killer for porn games, very often.

Knowing now that my team’s new game will have placeholder assets ahead of time is good, so this way we’ve designed the game to be streamlined in a way where we can put out monthly patches QUIETLY while still producing and creating new content for actual updates. The people just don’t wanna wait for shit and it only makes sense.

Need anymore devs on hand?

 

[Redelin]

why the "jk"? with a 13-37K per month average earning on patreon, which suggests he got paid around 240 thousand dollars for that last update that he took 10 months to do (based on the mean value)...
God I hate that I'm effectively on the side of the Milk Trolls now, but Uber has been milking this one hard, and now he's spent the last 7 months "getting steam ready", aka another 161 thousand US dollars so he can squeeze even more money out of this project,.. Meh!! He's already been paid more than he's worth.

BTW, I used to be a defender of his... look at me now lol, I detest Milk Trolls whining about the way other people chose to spend their money and I tend to support Devs attempts to get a fair days pay out of their projects, but Uber is just taking the piss.

Ok. Whatever grievances you have with Uber and the time it’s taking for the latest release, in no world could you realistically expect them to release it for .99 cents. It doesn’t really matter how much substar makes, Steam is meant to act as a new revenue stream for their team. They’ll most likely match the rest of the market and one of the most popular h-games on Steam, Dreams of Desire, started out in the price range I mentioned.

 

[Stranger7601]

Those people who have consistently sponsored this project deserve to get a key for free access. As for potential buyers who have never heard of TaffyTales, I think $15, +-$5 should be enough.

 

[775211]

The recent announcements they made are just like what my colleague (who got piped) said during the daily stand up; he tried to elaborate as much as he could to extend the length of his speech, yet not delivering any actual work or cr. Uberpie is not only increasing the gap between the updates but also skipping regular announcements, and I wonder whether he will just disappear later like innoxia did.

 

[91332929]

into three seasons？？？？it is over. None new update will reach forever

 

[Bloodhunter]

into three seasons？？？？it is over. None new update will reach forever

"Kings do not reign forever, my son." - Terenas Menethil

 

[Readerf2b]

So, its been what, a year since last update? A year that they supposedly spent on preparing for steam release, while still having at first patreon, then SS from people who were hoping to get an update? IDK why people are still in subscriptions, since its obviously will be cheaper to just by his game if it ever appears in full on steam.

And all thouse "seasons" are suspiciously scammy also. Like dudes will do shit "upgrades" for season 1 for another year, while people had been waiting (some even paying) to get sister content.

 

[Count Morado]

My note: What yall think should be the set price for the game?

$10 per part. 3 parts, $30.

So, its been what, a year since last update? A year that they supposedly spent on preparing for steam release, while still having at first patreon, then SS from people who were hoping to get an update? IDK why people are still in subscriptions, since its obviously will be cheaper to just by his game if it ever appears in full on steam.

Last update was 31 Jan 2024, less than 10 months (so far).

They have been working on the steam release since April 2024, about 7 months (so far).

There is a supposedly an almost finished small update (so Uber says) that they were working on before they got booted from Patreon in mid-March 2024.

While I don't agree/disagree with your sentiment... It's always best to make sure you have the right info when sharing that sentiment.

 

[Readerf2b]

$10 per part. 3 parts, $30.

Last update was 31 Jan 2024, less than 10 months (so far).

They have been working on the steam release since April 2024, about 7 months (so far).

There is a supposedly an almost finished small update (so Uber says) that they were working on before they got booted from Patreon in mid-March 2024.

While I don't agree/disagree with your sentiment... It's always best to make sure you have the right info when sharing that sentiment.

>Last update was 31 Jan 2024
It was what, v.1.07.3c.? Because as I see in update log last update with any new content was v.1.07.3a.

Anyway last update I remember having new content was introducing ntr route. Not my taste, but i think it was nice, especially for ntr-fans. After that there was nothing new as far as i remember.

>There is a supposedly an almost finished small update (so Uber says) that they were working on before they got booted from Patreon in mid-March 2024.

I dont see them promising to release it soon, they are now concentrated on steam 1,2,3 season version it seems. That kinda makes really new content a question of next american presidency time.

 

[Count Morado]

>Last update was 31 Jan 2024
It was what, v.1.07.3c.? Because as I see in update log last update with any new content was v.1.07.3a.

Anyway last update I remember having new content was introducing ntr route. Not my taste, but i think it was nice, especially for ntr-fans. After that there was nothing new as far as i remember.

from my FAQ: 31,414
v1.07.3a 29 Jan 2024 (7 months)
v0.95.7a 01 Jul 2023 (8 months, 3 weeks)

v1.07.3 was main route "Season 5" continuation - yes, it had content. If you don't remember, you can watch my speed run here: 29,174

v0.95.7 was the first part of "Season 5" that had both netorare and main route content.

 

[jojojo115599]

So they divide what we have now into three seasons. How long they gonna take to catchup? 3 years? Price wont be matter too much I can afford $45 a year KEKG

 

[sidiouspein]

I hope no one buys the steam version.