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Every page here is filled with the same whining—"Oh, it's AI, I've been trained to hate it, unlike *real artists* lol.

Guys, I've been in the industry for over 10 years (no, I won’t be providing proof), and I can speak on behalf of artists. Let me say this again on this forum: if we're not talking about straight-up AI garbage prompts, the way Uber is using AI is just another tool, and that's a good thing. It's no different from any other tool. Your tears and knee-jerk lamenting are more than a little amusing. Yes, AI is going to push a lot of mediocrity out of the market right now, and eventually, it will push out everyone else too—but that’s life, and that’s normal. It’s the wind of change, folks.

This is literally the revolt of *shitscreenwriters* from Hollywood and the people they’ve brainwashed into thinking that AI is soulless, terrible, and wrong.

At least the screenwriters have an excuse—they’re useless, they know they’re useless, their time is up, and they don’t want to retrain into a field that’s more useful to society. But as for the rest, the consumers with zero experience in anything, they have absolutely no excuse.

Bitter complainers are still holding each other tight, crying about, "Oh no, it's AI. Is it AI? Guys? Ai is bad, right?"—and that's pretty funny, too.

Did Uber make mistakes? Absolutely. There were plenty. Was their initial use of AI clunky? For sure. But now they’re heading in the right direction, and they’re doing a great job. The art has improved a lot—fact. I’ve explained all of this with detailed examples before.

And to those whining about Uber stopping updates—blame Patreon and its wonderful policies. That wasn't Uber's decision. They’re taking the only viable path now. Yes, it’s risky, but there’s no other way.

Uber, hang in there—and for the love of God, put me on the team already (I am joking). I'm busting my ass for you. Cheers.
 

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so i presume update would be still far away. any confirmed contents and information for the next update? like which specific girl are they going to focus and what about stacy?
 
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locco1234

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so i presume update would be still far away. any confirmed contents and information for the next update? like which specific girl are they going to focus and what about stacy?
I think you are right in term of the release date. My prediction, it would be around December or New Year.. Hopefully i am wrong here.. :)
The current focus as far as I understand it is a remaster first season + altering many many scenes, probably repairing minigames, bugs, etc.
 

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Every page here is filled with the same whining—"Oh, it's AI, I've been trained to hate it, unlike *real artists* lol.

Guys, I've been in the industry for over 10 years (no, I won’t be providing proof), and I can speak on behalf of artists. Let me say this again on this forum: if we're not talking about straight-up AI garbage prompts, the way Uber is using AI is just another tool, and that's a good thing. It's no different from any other tool. Your tears and knee-jerk lamenting are more than a little amusing. Yes, AI is going to push a lot of mediocrity out of the market right now, and eventually, it will push out everyone else too—but that’s life, and that’s normal. It’s the wind of change, folks.

This is literally the revolt of *shitscreenwriters* from Hollywood and the people they’ve brainwashed into thinking that AI is soulless, terrible, and wrong.

At least the screenwriters have an excuse—they’re useless, they know they’re useless, their time is up, and they don’t want to retrain into a field that’s more useful to society. But as for the rest, the consumers with zero experience in anything, they have absolutely no excuse.

Bitter complainers are still holding each other tight, crying about, "Oh no, it's AI. Is it AI? Guys? Ai is bad, right?"—and that's pretty funny, too.

Did Uber make mistakes? Absolutely. There were plenty. Was their initial use of AI clunky? For sure. But now they’re heading in the right direction, and they’re doing a great job. The art has improved a lot—fact. I’ve explained all of this with detailed examples before.

And to those whining about Uber stopping updates—blame Patreon and its wonderful policies. That wasn't Uber's decision. They’re taking the only viable path now. Yes, it’s risky, but there’s no other way.

Uber, hang in there—and for the love of God, put me on the team already (I am joking). I'm busting my ass for you. Cheers.
Your busting your ass im busting my nut were all in this together ❤ cue circle jerk but not for gay Danny shit for the love of God for the next 3 to 5 updates leave Danny alone lol he needs to go ghost they're are other characters of the main cast but more importantly the sub cast to flush out
 

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NEW POST

As promised in my last post, I want to explain why we filled our project with over 40 characters instead of focusing on just a few and fully developing them. The answer is both complex and simple - there are tons of reasons for it!

1. The Big Vision

The main reason? We wanted to create something massive and high-quality. We weren’t interested in making a short, small project with a basic storyline and a typical harem setup. To pull off something this ambitious, we needed a big world, with many locations, a lot of characters, and complex relationships between them. We put a ton of effort in early - creating animations, poses, kinks, and character backstories that we plan to expand on in the future. Every one of those choices didn’t just make the project bigger; it also made us (and hopefully you) more attached to the world.
2. World-Building Takes Time
We wanted to create a truly massive world, but with an indie team like ours, there’s no way we could do it all at once. That’s why, with each update, we focused on pushing the story forward, expanding the world, and slowly but surely adding new pieces to the puzzle.

3. Learning as We Go
We’ve come a long way in terms of content quality, art, programming, and writing. We started as complete amateurs with zero experience in game development, making (and still making) plenty of mistakes. But that’s how we learn, right? Every update has been an opportunity for our small team to add another piece to this massive project and create something truly worthwhile. Sure, many talented teams have made short, impressive projects, but that wasn’t our strategy. We had no experience and little skill when we began, so our goal was to grow, learn, and improve alongside the project.

4. The Perfectionist’s Curse
Speaking of improvement - yeah, we’ve spent a lot of time reworking older content (art, writing, and logic - funny enough, the logic has been the biggest challenge). Sure, we could have spent that time creating new content, but our artist is a total perfectionist. He can’t stand looking at his old work without cringing, so he went all in on updating it, even while the rest of the team focused on new updates.

5. Why Others Don’t Do It
In our opinion, one of the main reasons other projects don’t follow this approach is a lack of ideas, a fear of reworking what’s already been done, or worrying about messing up something people already love. For us, the challenge has always been a lack of time - because we’ve got tons of ideas and plans. We’ve left plenty of clear (and not-so-obvious) hints about kinks, secrets, and skeletons in the closet, so there’s still a lot more we want to explore

6. Making It Deep
Ultimately, we believe this is the only way to make a world and story truly deep and immersive. Sure, this approach has its downsides, but we think the positives far outweigh them. We really hope that the game has been worth the wait and that you understand where we’re coming from. It’s been 7 years of hard work, and we’re incredibly grateful for your support.

Once again, thank you all so much for your support,
Without you, none of this would be possible,
Love,
-The Taffy Tales Team

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What a load of bullshit, just to fill in the silence.
 

BlaBlaCat

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"Our artist is a total perfectionist"

So thats a fucking lie :ROFLMAO:
No, unlike many others, he’s constantly reworking and refining his old pieces, despite all the criticism about it. He’s a perfectionist and a professional digital artist—unlike most of the projects around here. Meanwhile, you all are just whiners who don’t even try to form your own opinions. Maybe you’re good people, but it’s hard not to feel bad for this guy.
Your busting your ass im busting my nut were all in this together ❤ cue circle jerk but not for gay Danny shit for the love of God for the next 3 to 5 updates leave Danny alone lol he needs to go ghost they're are other characters of the main cast but more importantly the sub cast to flush out
That’s a good joke, I might steal it for later.
What a load of bullshit, just to fill in the silence.
Yeah, we get it, he annoys you—whether he’s silent or explaining his process in detail. Some people appreciate it, while others, as always, aren’t happy.
Our artist likes to pump art through Ai and to make sure the characters have 6 fingers :ROFLMAO:
A completely unexpected and witty joke (not really), so original and sophisticated (again, not really). This feels like some kind of coordinated NPC attack. Half the people are talking about fingers, the other half claims he's just being lazy now that AI can do everything with a prompt—go ahead and try it, friends, a world of delightful discoveries awaits you. And none of them will ever apologize afterward.

Sure, he messed up in the early stages of using AI as part of his work. But it's still miles better than the endless rows of identical inflatable dolls in your signature (and no, I genuinely don’t judge their fans or the artist - everyone has their own style).

Much love to everyone! Uber, give me a cut!
 
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harem.king

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Every page here is filled with the same whining—"Oh, it's AI, I've been trained to hate it, unlike *real artists* lol.
> Trained to hate it
lol. lmao even.
nobody was "trained" to hate AI. we gave it a fair shake. it just looks bad.

Or is what you mean that "we grew up consuming high quality hand drawn art and top quality 3d art. which trained us enjoy quality and hate trash"?
because... yea, sure. I was "trained" to hate trash quality art by all that good art I consumed over the decades.
I won't apologize for liking quality and hating trash.

I will happily consume AI made art if it was actually good. In fact, I very much like AI backgrounds, because AI is good at making backgrounds. Not so much when drawing humans
 
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Ttales went from having a unique and appealing art style, to the same generic overly plump and shiny AI generated bimbo slop with vaguely similar faces. It sucks and can barely be considered art anymore.
People need to be less lazy with AI and learn a few different styles to prompt with. AI can do anything but if you're too stupid to do more than one thing then it can't save you.
 

BlaBlaCat

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Ttales went from having a unique and appealing art style, to the same generic overly plump and shiny AI generated bimbo slop with vaguely similar faces. It sucks and can barely be considered art anymore.
I get what you’re saying. But it’s learning and improving its mistakes.
In the latest update, there was hardly any of that, if any at all.
> Trained to hate it
lol. lmao even.
nobody was "trained" to hate AI. we gave it a fair shake. it just looks bad.

Or is what you mean that "we grew up consuming high quality hand drawn art and top quality 3d art. which trained us enjoy quality and hate trash"?
because... yea, sure. I was "trained" to hate trash quality art by all that good art I consumed over the decades.
I won't apologize for liking quality and hating trash.
Yes, in our adult industry, there are some genuinely talented and powerful artists (who could easily make a good living in mainstream industries). Of course, they exist, but there are very, very few of them. Most of the truly skilled artists, unfortunately, leave for the mainstream industry - ArtStation is proof of that. And yeah, Uber falls into this category, maybe not at the start of his career, but definitely now.

Let’s move on - 99% of the games here are DAZ 3D garbage (and it’s not DAZ's fault—everything is poorly rendered, lacks proper composition, lighting, color balance, with basic, downloaded models, clothes, backgrounds, and so on). Are you kidding me? What kind of “high-quality” 3D did you get used to here? None of these creators would ever get hired in a regular studio. It’s not even funny, buddy. (Yeah, I still think that if these DAZ projects exist, it's because they have satisfied players - so it’s justified. But it doesn’t change my point above.)
I won't apologize for liking quality and hating trash.
Yeah, we get it, you're posing with your refined taste. Lol, you guys are hilarious.

I will happily consume AI made art if it was actually good.
With each new piece, he's actually moving closer to using AI as a tool to refine his work properly - calling something AI-made just shows your ignorance and lack of understanding about how it works. AI can't create things independently in complex projects from a single prompt, etc. In the industry (including Uber’s), it’s just another tool, another function to improve the work.
In fact, I very much like AI backgrounds, because AI is good at making backgrounds. Not so much when drawing humans
And this is the funniest part, proving even more that you have no clue about what you’re talking about. Try creating a street in Uber’s style using AI, with high resolution, complete with houses, windows, doors, roads, details, etc. You’re in for a big surprise, but of course, you won’t admit it.

I’ll just adjust the crown on your avatar again. Right now, neither Flux, nor Pony, nor anything that came before can do it right without you spending dozens of hours cleaning up mistakes. And this problem applies to almost any task, but you picked one of the worst examples, lol. Go ahead, hero.
People need to be less lazy with AI and learn a few different styles to prompt with. AI can do anything but if you're too stupid to do more than one thing then it can't save you.
No, it can’t. It might be able to in the future, but not right now. A prompt won’t handle complex compositions, sequential stories, poses, and so on. It’s just one part of an artist’s job. For now, you still need hands-on work and constant retouching.

You’re right that Flux has significantly boosted prompt strength. But there are other issues leftover from the XL series, and the model is still pretty rough.
 
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No, it can’t. It might be able to in the future, but not right now. A prompt won’t handle complex compositions, sequential stories, poses, and so on. It’s just one part of an artist’s job. For now, you still need hands-on work and constant retouching.

You’re right that Flux has significantly boosted prompt strength. But there are other issues leftover from the XL series, and the model is still pretty rough.
A prompt won't but all of this is trivial since the developer is already an artist, a rough sketch with controlnet can easily still result in 98% of time savings. I was commenting on issues with the characters looking too samey.
 

BlaBlaCat

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A prompt won't but all of this is trivial since the developer is already an artist, a rough sketch with controlnet can easily still result in 98% of time savings. I was commenting on issues with the characters looking too samey.
You seem like a reasonable guy, and I don’t want to end up in another argument here. But you’re totally wrong on this. All those examples with ControlNet look impressive in flashy YouTube videos. When it comes to real, specific tasks, ControlNet ends up being more of a hassle than a help. OpenPose is far from perfect and only really works well with simple poses, and even then, there are caveats. Plus, it often strips away the artistic quality of poses and overall composition.

API adapters are much more useful, but they’re still far from ideal, and sometimes it’s faster and easier to just do everything manually with basic image-to-image tools. Depth and Canny are also pretty niche, and when you right Denoising strength, they don’t add much value.

In other words, none of these tools can do even half of the work. And there’s a bigger problem artists face: the neural network pushes the overall quality level of the project higher, which makes it harder to maintain that quality during redrawing, editing, and so on. In other words, the neural network creates new challenges and problems. You have to fundamentally change your approach and adjust your mindset to work with it.

And again, that’s if we’re talking about large, sequential projects - not a quick wow-factor clip of a kitten with an RPG on YouTube.
 
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mizuchi321

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Every page here is filled with the same whining—"Oh, it's AI, I've been trained to hate it, unlike *real artists* lol.

Guys, I've been in the industry for over 10 years (no, I won’t be providing proof), and I can speak on behalf of artists. Let me say this again on this forum: if we're not talking about straight-up AI garbage prompts, the way Uber is using AI is just another tool, and that's a good thing. It's no different from any other tool. Your tears and knee-jerk lamenting are more than a little amusing. Yes, AI is going to push a lot of mediocrity out of the market right now, and eventually, it will push out everyone else too—but that’s life, and that’s normal. It’s the wind of change, folks.

This is literally the revolt of *shitscreenwriters* from Hollywood and the people they’ve brainwashed into thinking that AI is soulless, terrible, and wrong.

At least the screenwriters have an excuse—they’re useless, they know they’re useless, their time is up, and they don’t want to retrain into a field that’s more useful to society. But as for the rest, the consumers with zero experience in anything, they have absolutely no excuse.

Bitter complainers are still holding each other tight, crying about, "Oh no, it's AI. Is it AI? Guys? Ai is bad, right?"—and that's pretty funny, too.

Did Uber make mistakes? Absolutely. There were plenty. Was their initial use of AI clunky? For sure. But now they’re heading in the right direction, and they’re doing a great job. The art has improved a lot—fact. I’ve explained all of this with detailed examples before.

And to those whining about Uber stopping updates—blame Patreon and its wonderful policies. That wasn't Uber's decision. They’re taking the only viable path now. Yes, it’s risky, but there’s no other way.

Uber, hang in there—and for the love of God, put me on the team already (I am joking). I'm busting my ass for you. Cheers.
"lol no I wont be providing proof"
well there you go
 

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i love how people complain about artists create content using ai but they never have really seen complete ai work, for example there are h-games out there that only use ai and the difference is enormous, so when a artist decides to use ai just a little bit for fine tuning to save a little extra time give him some slack you want content more often dont you
 

WARC4NNON

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That's all you've got? Just repeating someone else's joke? Pff, next.
dont wrry about harem.king btw, ive seen him in like 3 other forums and all he does is complain about everything that doesn't go the way he wants it to go, for example he is in another forum for DLOMC Daily lives of my countryside and he complains about the content getting added cause its not exactly what he wants even tho the content that gets added to that game is based of majority rules through a selection on a poll, and he complains that its taking 6 months to make the update even tho theres like 20 something scenes that gets added per update and this new update is coming out in like a week or 2 but he still complaining it takes to long
 

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"I don’t judge their fans or the artist"
This is a funny joke. This is a forum for adult games, the devs have released a message about their "progress". We are making our own opinions on the matter. You have a opinion like everyone else but replying to every comment like a full on Karen in the wild is a but much?
And my signatures are bitchin thank you very much
 
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