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Artist271

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For a new project, no, probably not. Especially if the dev has a history of delivering.
For a game that's been around for 5 years now I'd be very surprised if the mere announcement of content that had been promised before would significantly grow the fan base in any way.
"Mere announcement of content" is dishonest to say, it's a new route. If that weren't the case, then the ntrman Patreon wouldn't have 3085 Patreons and would have far lesser Patreons. Trust in the facts that ntr has quite a bit of fans and that it will and is increasing his fanbase in significant ways.
 

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I love the storyline more. I find the narrative I'm looking for in this game. It's not cold like other games. It's more like a friend telling you a memory.
 
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Stil996

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Wrong, an announcement of the ntr update finally gonna be worked on does wonders in broadening his fanbase and have all those ntr fans that went away come back. More like they're in sleep and woke up now.

His Patreon used to be 3000 plus for the longest time, so for him to stay in the 5000 plus range now is impressive.
Dude I don't know why you are jumping on the "wrong" like that, NTR has been an awaited feature from day one, it's always been a key theme, and a proper NTR update has been explicitly promised for a while now, I might be wrong (I don't really keep track such things) but I think 2-3 updates (before he decided to rework the beginning)

As for the numbers he hit 5344 back in 2021 (probably the first time he promised an solid NTR update, since then he has been bouncing around the 4-6k mark)
 
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Artist271

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Dude I don't know why you are jumping on the "wrong" like that, NTR has been an awaited feature from day one, it's always been a key theme, and a proper NTR update has been explicitly promised for a while now, I might be wrong (I don't really keep track such things) but I think 2-3 updates (before he decided to rework the beginning)

As for the numbers he hit 5344 back in 2021 (probably the first time he promised an solid NTR update, since then he has been bouncing around the 4-6k mark)
You right, sorry about that. The confirmation and announcement that the update will be worked on after 2 updates was in may 25 of 2023. And now ntr fans are done being in hybernation. and a key theme would be if there were an ntr route.
 
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"Mere announcement of content" is dishonest to say, it's a new route. If that weren't the case, then the ntrman Patreon wouldn't have 3085 Patreons and would have far lesser Patreons. Trust in the facts that ntr has quite a bit of fans and that it will and is increasing his fanbase in significant ways.
Sure it's a new route, but we're talking about Patreon, where every new project is the best thing since sliced bread and every other post is either a promise or an excuse for failing to deliver on a promise.
Until the update is actually out I doubt it'll have much impact.

As for NTR having many fans, yes and no. The fetish is very divisive and you have to tread carefully how you present and implement it, unless your game is only aimed at the NTR crowd. It's not like stepcest (with an incest patch), which a massive amount of players seem to absolutely love and the rest generally don't give a fuck if it's there or not.
 

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Sure it's a new route, but we're talking about Patreon, where every new project is the best thing since sliced bread and every other post is either a promise or an excuse for failing to deliver on a promise.
Until the update is actually out I doubt it'll have much impact.

As for NTR having many fans, yes and no. The fetish is very divisive and you have to tread carefully how you present and implement it, unless your game is only aimed at the NTR crowd. It's not like stepcest (with an incest patch), which a massive amount of players seem to absolutely love and the rest generally don't give a fuck if it's there or not.
Pretty dishonest of you to say that, I'd make sense if Ubers or ntrman's games were very recent, but it isn't. The fanbase has been solidified. So yes, Patreon is a good metric to know what sells or not, and tbf Patreon is both their only income and seeing as how adamant you are on undermining ntr then there's no reason for ntrman's Patreon number to be that high. So it's not a yes and no, it's a yes.
 

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Pretty dishonest of you to say that, I'd make sense if Ubers or ntrman's games were very recent, but it isn't. The fanbase has been solidified. So yes, Patreon is a good metric to know what sells or not, and tbf Patreon is both their only income and seeing as how adamant you are on undermining ntr then there's no reason for ntrman's Patreon number to be that high. So it's not a yes and no, it's a yes.
Alright bud, NTR is the most popular genre imaginable and nobody in the history of adult games has ever had the slightest issue with it. I'm clearly a filthy liar for suggesting otherwise or even hinting at the possibility that any Patreon dev might have been guilty of overpromising and underdelivering at any point in time.

This is clearly going nowhere so I'm bowing out.
 

Count Morado

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The fetish is very divisive
Look, we get it, you don't like netorare - but it's really only divisive to a very vocal minority of non-netorare fans. You aren't even discussing the game at this point, you are discussing your personal views on netorare, in general. You are making very slight connections to the game simply to springboard your opinions on netorare. That's off-topic and has sucked up a lot of bullshit energy in this thread.
so I'm bowing out.
Final-fucking-ly. Enjoy your day.
 

Artist271

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Alright bud, NTR is the most popular genre imaginable and nobody in the history of adult games has ever had the slightest issue with it. I'm clearly a filthy liar for suggesting otherwise or even hinting at the possibility that any Patreon dev might have been guilty of overpromising and underdelivering at any point in time.

This is clearly going nowhere so I'm bowing out.
as you should bow out.
 

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man, 8 months and still counting. does anybody knows if there's a release date already? also, i know this update will be focused on ntr, but will it only be ntr, or will there be content on the "normal" route as well?
 

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vocal minority
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Finding a game where X does well does not mean it is the majority preference.
it just means it has a market, and that it can be profitable.

As for little mermaid... just look it up

it started well, then suddenly dropped off massively. Ending as the 4th worst performing disney live action video.
Its 56.7% decline is only better than Alice Through The Looking Glass (57.9%), The Lion King (60%), and Dumbo (60.4%).
It has been documented that those megacorp movies cheat on the first week grossing figures, inflating the figures to try to convince people to go see it via peer pressure "if everyone is seeing it, it must be good".
The sudden massive drop is when they stop.

> bunch of people working at cinema saying empty theaters. all tickets sold, nobody showsup
> deal is that on first week 100% of ticket sale goes to company, theaters get concessions. On subsequent weeks they split the ticket income.



This is why all disney movies lately have such horrendous drop off rates on 2nd week. with a full 6 movies having over 50% drop off.
Because second week it costs them actual money. so they cut down on buying empty seats.
 
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Finding a game where X does well does not mean it is the majority preference.
it just means it has a market, and that it can be profitable.

As for little mermaid... just look it up

it started well, then suddenly dropped off massively. Ending as the 4th worst performing disney live action video.


It has been documented that those megacorp movies cheat on the first week grossing figures, inflating the figures to try to convince people to go see it via peer pressure "if everyone is seeing it, it must be good".
The sudden massive drop is when they stop.

> bunch of people working at cinema saying empty theaters. all tickets sold, nobody showsup
> deal is that on first week 100% of ticket sale goes to company, theaters get concessions. On subsequent weeks they split the ticket income.



This is why all disney movies lately have such horrendous drop off rates on 2nd week. with a full 6 movies having over 50% drop off.
Because second week it costs them actual money. so they cut down on buying empty seats.
>links to kotakuinaction
>its a post from 4 years ago when you losers were whining about captain marvel
>believes in conspiracies with sources that include: "dude trust me"

Did Disney kill your parents or something? Why do you guys still whine about this shit?
 

Artist271

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Finding a game where X does well does not mean it is the majority preference.
it just means it has a market, and that it can be profitable.

As for little mermaid... just look it up

it started well, then suddenly dropped off massively. Ending as the 4th worst performing disney live action video.


It has been documented that those megacorp movies cheat on the first week grossing figures, inflating the figures to try to convince people to go see it via peer pressure "if everyone is seeing it, it must be good".
The sudden massive drop is when they stop.

> bunch of people working at cinema saying empty theaters. all tickets sold, nobody showsup
> deal is that on first week 100% of ticket sale goes to company, theaters get concessions. On subsequent weeks they split the ticket income.



This is why all disney movies lately have such horrendous drop off rates on 2nd week. with a full 6 movies having over 50% drop off.
Because second week it costs them actual money. so they cut down on buying empty seats.
you did not debunk my argument of the little mermaid, but on the first part you convinced me.
ntr is divisive, but either part being the majority or minority is anybody's guess and cannot be quantified accurately. at the end of the day it's profitable, and that's what matters to me.
 

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man, 8 months and still counting. does anybody knows if there's a release date already? also, i know this update will be focused on ntr, but will it only be ntr, or will there be content on the "normal" route as well?
the main route is gonna have an update as well, and a pretty lengthy one too.
 

mrttao

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you did not debunk my argument of the little mermaid
was less trying to "debunk" and more reassuring you that you are not alone. Your feeling about it are normal.
You are not some vanishing small minority that disliked it.

As per MSN news, it did catastrophically bad. starting from the 2nd week. it is not a popular movie. It just benefited from disney little 1st week trick which they nowadays do for all their movies.
 
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Pretty dishonest of you to say that, I'd make sense if Ubers or ntrman's games were very recent, but it isn't. The fanbase has been solidified. So yes, Patreon is a good metric to know what sells or not, and tbf Patreon is both their only income and seeing as how adamant you are on undermining ntr then there's no reason for ntrman's Patreon number to be that high. So it's not a yes and no, it's a yes.
As fellow NTRman and Uber fan, I can somehow agree that NTR genre is pretty divisive, because the genre itself is complex and can be aplied wrongly even by the hands of a renovened creators, such as those two. - I think that the most important aspect of it is a consistency between falling characters pre-corruption character, triggers of corruption, the way that ntred character finds out and his reaction on it... and it is such a subtle topic, that can't be described wholly. So even as NTR lover I find some stories of those authors as bland, repetitive or outright badly written, and some other fans find them majestic... And I just hope that Uber will find the means to deliver that aspect the best way possible. Cheers XD
 
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Count Morado

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man, 8 months and still counting. does anybody knows if there's a release date already? also, i know this update will be focused on ntr, but will it only be ntr, or will there be content on the "normal" route as well?
No - nobody knows a release date, not even Uberpie. When he knows about a week or so out from that date, he'll let folks know.
I already answered this question in reply to one of your previous posts asking a similar question 6 months ago: #26,420
the Little Mermaid (Where the hell did this come from?)
Hans Christian Andersen, that's who. :ROFLMAO:

 
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