Unity Taffy Tales [S5 v1.07.3c] [UberPie]

[Count Morado]

I still can't believe that despite all the time this game is taking to be made and for each update, the developer decided to make a entire new ntr route that is known for being the most despised tag on every hgame.
Simply unreal.

The content was always meant to be in the game from day one of development. Within the percentage of people who don't like that content, a very small, but vocal, percentage whined and bitched enough about such content that the developer delayed working on the content they wanted in the game since day one.

Simply unreal that people don't seem to understand that not everyone likes the same stuff and that there are 17,000 games to choose from if one game has content they don't like.

Ahh so they didnt pull the patreon down, patreon is reviewing its content

The page stated the last couple of days that it was in review. The page is shown as removed today.

So now that the patreon is officially removed is there a plan to open up a subscribe star?

Neither Uberpie (who hasn't communicated on F95 in 6 years... but who has, for the first time in nearly 2 years, logged on to F95 less than an hour ago) nor lostraven have mentioned anything in this thread. No one who is on the discord has stated anything in this thread, sharing any info that might have been said there.

 

[gola16]

damn just disapperad just like that crazy

 

[fapmostlyrandom420]

page down fuck, all my heroes are slowly going down

 

[jayphi45]

damn just disapperad just like that crazy

Patreon has been pretty volatile towards H creators since like 2018 when Visa pressured them. They've semi-frequently change rules or go hard on them without warning, its why many left already. Along with Uberpie I've noticed some other creators get taken down for review the past few weeks, seems like they're clamping down again.

 

[palmtrees89]

I still can't believe that despite all the time this game is taking to be made and for each update, the developer decided to make a entire new ntr route that is known for being the most despised tag on every hgame.
Simply unreal.

You're looking at it from the perspective of a pirate in a piracy forum, which even here there's thousands of users who do play NTR games. Thing is, developers don't make their porn games to please users of a piracy forum, even though alot of income may be generated through the free PR of this website.

TLDR; It doesn't matter how many people like or dislike NTR on F95 as this isn't Patreon. Would be a different story if the devs were to lose all their support on Patreon due to adding NTR in their games, which clearly isn't the case.

So... Simply unreal that you believe a "despised tag" on F95 should dictate the content a developer adds to their game published on a different platform.

 

[Thatlostone]

I still can't believe that despite all the time this game is taking to be made and for each update, the developer decided to make a entire new ntr route that is known for being the most despised tag on every hgame.
Simply unreal.

Dude, NTR is a money maker lol covering the largest possible spectrum of fetishes is the best strategy for making money in porn games. As long as the more "controversial" fetishes are optional, the vanilla supporters are not going anywhere and because the fetishes have a more niche audience, they are more likely to pay for the content.

 

[Count Morado]

Patreon has been pretty volatile towards H creators since like 2018 when Visa pressured them. They've semi-frequently change rules or go hard on them without warning, its why many left already. Along with Uberpie I've noticed some other creators get taken down for review the past few weeks, seems like they're clamping down again.

Uberpie's been nudgin' Patreon's panties with his snout for awhile, even after the initial review back in the first year of development. I mean, once you've been reviewed - you should make sure to not create any content that could even be close to violating Patreon's guidelines... or you should move to a different platform because you're gonna get caught sooner or later. Better to leave early on your own terms than to become a top 20 adult game on a platform only to have a follow up review on your content, risking over $10,000 of monthly income and having to start all over somewhere else.

Max's little snout in Tiffany and Mary's gardens pushed Patreon's boundaries on bestiality.
MC's mind control over Mary pushed against Patreon's boundaries on non-con.
Gerda's storyline with the cult pushed Patreon's boundaries on non-con.
I'm actually surprised the game wasn't pulled from Patreon when the MC raped Clara in the bathroom, initially.
Scat and drinking urine from v0.95.7 pushed Patreon's boundaries.
The MC having Clara send her son Danny a topless photo with "Fuck me Danny" written on her breasts pushed Patreon's boundaries on incest.

While any one of these might have raised a red flag - I would wager that with so many little nudges, it warranted their Safety team a look at the content.

 

[palmtrees89]

Uberpie's been nudgin' Patreon's panties with his snout for awhile, even after the initial review back in the first year of development. I mean, once you've been reviewed - you should make sure to not create any content that could even be close to violating Patreon's guidelines... or you should move to a different platform because you're gonna get caught sooner or later. Better to leave early on your own terms than to become a top 20 adult game on a platform only to have a follow up review on your content, risking over $10,000 of monthly income and having to start all over somewhere else.

Word on the street is that some creators bypass Patreon's ToS by publishing a Patreon-friendly version of their games, acting as a facade while the real game is to be found on a different website, which patrons will get access to via link.

 

[Count Morado]

Word on the street is that some creators bypass Patreon's ToS by publishing a Patreon-friendly version of their games, acting as a facade while the real game is to be found on a different website, which patrons will get access to via link.

Again, sooner or later, that's gonna bite them in the ass. Maybe not in the first year... maybe not in the first several years... but maybe 5 years in, after building a following on Patreon and, being one of the lucky developers to make it a living (fewer than 250 adult game developers out of the 7,000-ish make more than $4,000 per month - average is about $100 and the mean is closer to $65)... they'll get caught and then they'll need to rebuild their following.

Either a disgruntled fan will send a report to Patreon or some other way will eventually get a game reviewed/pulled. If you can't abide by the content guidelines of a platform, don't use it -- if you do, have a backup in place or just be ready to accept the consequences of your choices.

As for Uberpie, the game Patreon subscribers get is the game, there is no "friendly" version.

 

[gola16]

Word on the street is that some creators bypass Patreon's ToS by publishing a Patreon-friendly version of their games, acting as a facade while the real game is to be found on a different website, which patrons will get access to via link.

They already have a counter for that i saw on twitter that a artist got banned for content that even though it wasnt posted on patreon was available on a different website so for instance:
1. I f i post something that is banned on there website somewhere else (twitter/pixiv/cloud storage websites) they will still ban you based on association( Essentially guilty by association type of situation) or they will police you to remove from those website or tell you to remove your twitter handle or any instance where you have linked your twitter on patreon

 

[gola16]

Word on the street is that some creators bypass Patreon's ToS by publishing a Patreon-friendly version of their games, acting as a facade while the real game is to be found on a different website, which patrons will get access to via link.

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you can read the picture from this post to understand what i am talking about its stupid tbh

 

[Vakul]

Uberpie's been nudgin' Patreon's panties with his snout for awhile, even after the initial review back in the first year of development. I mean, once you've been reviewed - you should make sure to not create any content that could even be close to violating Patreon's guidelines... or you should move to a different platform because you're gonna get caught sooner or later. Better to leave early on your own terms than to become a top 20 adult game on a platform only to have a follow up review on your content, risking over $10,000 of monthly income and having to start all over somewhere else.

Max's little snout in Tiffany and Mary's gardens pushed Patreon's boundaries on bestiality.
MC's mind control over Mary pushed against Patreon's boundaries on non-con.
Gerda's storyline with the cult pushed Patreon's boundaries on non-con.
I'm actually surprised the game wasn't pulled from Patreon when the MC raped Clara in the bathroom, initially.
Scat and drinking urine from v0.95.7 pushed Patreon's boundaries.
The MC having Clara send her son Danny a topless photo with "Fuck me Danny" written on her breasts pushed Patreon's boundaries on incest.

While any one of these might have raised a red flag - I would wager that with so many little nudges, it warranted their Safety team a look at the content.

Still doesn't change the fact, that patreon is sh*teating clowns. Coz posting visual materials for real people is one thing and trying to defend the rights of fictional cartoon characters while whose creators is about 20% to 30% of their income - is still signs of imbecility.
Today they say "your cute 4 handed triplewinged imps should consent before a kiss", tomorrow they decide that every character need unique ID with 50 paged contract of "what they can an can't do" signed by 3 different lawyers and sent to their HQ.
I mean, if they are dumb enough to shoot their legs - that's ok with me, thumblr says hi from its "great success". But from what I see - they dont even try to set a clear system with warnings and such. Some of their rules are ambiguous at best.

And I see only one reason for all this crap - absence of alternetives. As soon as several competitors appear with similar conditions, patreon will eat their sh*t sooner than we can say "Nice". My only wish is for those altrnatives to appear sooner.

 

[preglovr12]

 

[Thatlostone]

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Damn. Time to change platforms I guess? Although I think they might need to do some changes in the content in the new one too.

 

[Count Morado]

Damn. Time to change platforms I guess? Although I think they might need to do some changes in the content in the new one too.

Uberpie does say they "are considering SubscribeStar, but it's a monumental drop in subscribers and income." That said, it's better than Zero, right? I mean if they don't move to another platform, they get no money at all. And they could get a start at rebuilding their subscribers easily there because SubscribeStar has a bit more lenient guidelines. Hell, Uberpie could even go back to the explicit incest storyline. And yet, he's vascillating? It's odd, but that so like Uberpie that he can't make a decision...

At the same time, they also stated they are going to rework the content for Steam. I mean, yeah, Steam has slightly different guidelines than Patreon... but there's still a lot of overlap of changes to be made for Steam to accept the game on their platform.

Also, there's no way in hell I believe that Uberpie was about ready to drop a small update in the coming month or two. Even though he was able to do so with v0.89.8 - it's been more an exception than an expectation. That said, there's nothing stopping him from still releasing it - either quickly put up a Subscribestar page, or use his itch.io page (yes, he has one - just hasn't used it in years

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) or his newgrounds (yes, there too...

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), or just dropping it in his discord for his most loyal fans there.

Also, no one should believe Uberpie's excuse that he has no clue why he's being removed and based upon what decision. I've named several possibles simply off the top of my head... also, as has been seen by other posts - Patreon usually does make developers aware of the problem(s) that need addressed. He's been reviewed before about content and made changes based upon their concerns. When developers say "they don't know..." they are not being forthright. Either with their fans or themselves or both.

However, it could simply be that there are so many small infringements on guidelines that Patreon decided that since Uberpie had been warned once already (back in the beginning) that he doesn't get a third chance.

 

[Vakul]

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Well, it seems, patreon do want to choke on its crap. I can only wish those clowns luck with that. Oh those sweet income

reduction followed by layoffs. Sounds like a wonderful plan.

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There is game named Winter Memories. AFAIK, they sell it on steam with smth about 20% of the the actual gameplay without any adult hints. But there is a certain patch on their site, that converts a demo into full version. It is more work for creators, unnecessary work. But it seems, sh*tshow has just begun

 

[palmtrees89]

Again, sooner or later, that's gonna bite them in the ass. Maybe not in the first year... maybe not in the first several years... but maybe 5 years in, after building a following on Patreon and, being one of the lucky developers to make it a living (fewer than 250 adult game developers out of the 7,000-ish make more than $4,000 per month - average is about $100 and the mean is closer to $65)... they'll get caught and then they'll need to rebuild their following.

Either a disgruntled fan will send a report to Patreon or some other way will eventually get a game reviewed/pulled. If you can't abide by the content guidelines of a platform, don't use it -- if you do, have a backup in place or just be ready to accept the consequences of your choices.

As for Uberpie, the game Patreon subscribers get is the game, there is no "friendly" version.

They already have a counter for that i saw on twitter that a artist got banned for content that even though it wasnt posted on patreon was available on a different website so for instance:
1. I f i post something that is banned on there website somewhere else (twitter/pixiv/cloud storage websites) they will still ban you based on association( Essentially guilty by association type of situation) or they will police you to remove from those website or tell you to remove your twitter handle or any instance where you have linked your twitter on patreon

Sure, I was just saying that there are developers out there who are doing it this way. Atleast one who's been doing it for almost 7 years. They basically publish the game without questionable content on Patreon while handing out links to patrons leading to another website with login requirement to download the latest update. I'm honestly surprised myself that the dev in question hasn't gotten in trouble for it after so many years, so I thought maybe this could be a way out for Uberpie.

Now, the best way to proceed would likely be a Subscribestar account. Sure, they'll lose some support, but Discord+F95 is a pretty effective way to spread the word.

 

[Ih8figs]

Where's lostraven with his witty remark ?

 

[Count Morado]

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Does that statement qualify as notification that this title is "on hold"?

There is game named Winter Memories. AFAIK, they sell it on steam with smth about 20% of the the actual gameplay without any adult hints. But there is a certain patch on their site, that converts a demo into full version. It is more work for creators, unnecessary work. But it seems, sh*tshow has just begun

Whether true or not. Whether well known or not -
You realize you may have just put that developer on Patreon's radar, right? F95 posts are public and discoverable using any web search engine, such as Google. Even if you aren't the first to talk about it... your mention only bolsters the ability for Patreon to do a review. This is what I was talking with others about "sooner or later" people get found out.

Where's lostraven with his witty remark ?

The schadenfreude is strong in this one.

 

[Vakul]

Uberpie does say they "are considering SubscribeStar, but it's a monumental drop in subscribers and income." That said, it's better than Zero, right? I mean if they don't move to another platform, they get no money at all. And they could get a start at rebuilding their subscribers easily there because SubscribeStar has a bit more lenient guidelines. Hell, Uberpie could even go back to the explicit incest storyline. And yet, he's vascillating? It's odd, but that so like Uberpie that he can't make a decision...

At the same time, they also stated they are going to rework the content for Steam. I mean, yeah, Steam has slightly different guidelines than Patreon... but there's still a lot of overlap of changes to be made for Steam to accept the game on their platform.

The correct answer is - payment system. There are differences between patreon's and subscriber's partners. Steam is more convenient in terms of payment.

Also, no one should believe Uberpie's excuse that he has no clue why he's being removed and based upon what decision. I've named several possibles simply off the top of my head... also, as has been seen by other posts - Patreon usually does make developers aware of the problem(s) that need addressed. He's been reviewed before about content and made changes based upon their concerns. When developers say "they don't know..." they are not being forthright. Either with their fans or themselves or both.

Yup, you named it FROM YOUR HEAD. Thats not rules, thats YOU UNDERSTANDING of them. Or my. Ore someone elses. See any difference? We can disbilieve some creators claims, BUT their rules IS in fact ambiguous where they should be crystal clear with dozens of examples(coz its their income).
And whats more - several days ago those clowns changed their rules again. This time its about consent. Now all those imaginary characters must consent before going further. So - yes, that patreclowns is indeed decided to shoot their dick off.