Unity Taffy Tales [S5 v1.07.3c] [UberPie]

[Ragnar]

No matter what platform a developer uses, they are "at the mercy" of the platform. That's the way it is with any business - all businesses do want their clients to succeed, however at the end of the day they have to make sure they are able to stay in business when the next day begins.

• Developers are at the mercy of funding platforms.
• Funding platforms are at the mercy of payment processors.
• Payment processors are at the mercy of public trust, regulation agencies, and elected officials.
• Regulation agencies are at the mercy of elected officials.
• Elected officials are at the mercy of the public trust.
• Adults who have the right/responsibility to vote decide what's in the best interest of the public trust when they go to the ballot box.

In the end, the best thing developers can do if they want to remain on a platform as long as possible with the least amount of trouble is to make sure they follow the guidelines that have been in place for years and if there is doubt or if they think they might be pushing the envelope, to reach out to platform representatives for advice prior to adding certain content -- and to keep documentation of that advice, just in case.

After all these years in the business Uberpie should have known better. Patreon doesn't allow high school/young porn games, just with that rule TT is out. Why TT doesn't have a SS page since years ago? SS allows many things Patreon doesn't.
Start a SS page and release the game in Steam, forget about Patreon.

 

[Count Morado]

After all these years in the business Uberpie should have known better. Patreon doesn't allow high school/young porn games, just with that rule TT is out. Why TT doesn't have a SS page since years ago? SS allows many things Patreon doesn't.
Start a SS page and release the game in Steam, forget about Patreon.

Taffy Tales is set in a "college," and has been so since at least the rework back in early 2018, when Uberpie was first under review by Patreon when the game was called "Family Tales." At that time Uberpie had to remove the relationships of the MC with Mary and Tiffany, and revise any other content Patreon Safety Team required for Uberpie to have a Patreon page.

The age and setting of the characters shouldn't be a problem for Taffy Tales as it exists.

Steam is also reluctant to list any adult games with a high school setting, btw. There have been developers rejected by Steam on that premise, alone, with adult content.

 

[Ragnar]

Taffy Tales is set in a "college," and has been so since at least the rework back in early 2018, when Uberpie was first under review by Patreon when the game was called "Family Tales." At that time Uberpie had to remove the relationships of the MC with Mary and Tiffany, and revise any other content Patreon Safety Team required for Uberpie to have a Patreon page.

The age and setting of the characters shouldn't be a problem for Taffy Tales as it exists.

Steam is also reluctant to list any adult games with a high school setting, btw. There have been developers rejected by Steam on that premise, alone, with adult content.

Even if you call her landlady or College a spade is a spade and you're at the whims of one person from Patreon. SS allows that content and I doubt they would have any problems getting backers there.
I get why TT team are considering to let the game die and sell what they have on Steam. You're getting 10k every month and then puff, no more money. But as I have said SS is the best platform for this type of game.

 

[Bootyjuice548]

Damn so we’ll never get ntr content. Rip the game

 

[Count Morado]

I get why TT team are considering to let the game die and sell what they have on Steam. You're getting 10k every month and then puff, no more money. But as I have said SS is the best platform for this type of game.

To be sure, this is an Uberpie decision. Not the entire team, though he will take their input. But at the end of the day, it's Uberpie, not the entire team.

I agree with you that Uberpie could start a Subscribestar account... or just use the itch.io account he already has by bringing it up to date in order to start rebuilding the funding while deciding whether or not to actually rework what they have for a Steam release. It's going to take months, if not more than a year, for the rework based upon the history of how Uberpie works and the state of the game, as it stands. And then, there's no guarantee that Steam will accept it, anyway. It would make good sense, business and otherwise, to have income while whatever decision and work is being done.

There was talk a couple of years ago to submit the game for consideration on Steam when Uberpie had the game revamped and added the fake sandbox elements, but then decided not to... there had to be a reason at that time.

 

[WigglyWorld84]

We'll always have Paris.

 

[Ottoeight]

• Developers are at the mercy of funding platforms.
• Funding platforms are at the mercy of payment processors.
• Payment processors are at the mercy of public trust, regulation agencies, and elected officials.
• Funding platforms and payment processors are both at the mercy of stockholders, if they are publicly traded companies.
• Regulation agencies are at the mercy of elected officials.
• Elected officials are at the mercy of the public trust.
• Adults who have the right/responsibility to vote decide what's in the best interest of the public trust when they go to the ballot box.

• Funders are at the mercy of developers.

 

[Count Morado]

• Funders are at the mercy of developers.

Agree in part, disagree in part. I would say more funders are at the mercy of their own misunderstanding of the concept of subscriptions / patronage - conflating it with purchasing contracts and binding agreements, rather than being at the mercy of developers.

Either way, that wasn't the topic - the off-topic-for-this-thread topic of the conversation was the discussion of developers dependency on platforms, regardless of which.

 

[hrhr]

Instead of debating Patreon's policies as if they'd go back on their decision (which they probably won't) it would be more effective to attempt to promote a SS page so the project remains viable. If not even devs got a proper reply from Patreon there's no reason to believe talking about it here will be productive, just move on to a better platform and try to spread the word enough so the project doesn't die.

 

[harem.king]

Instead of debating Patreon's policies as if they'd go back on their decision (which they probably won't) it would be more effective to attempt to promote a SS page so the project remains viable. If not even devs got a proper reply from Patreon there's no reason to believe talking about it here will be productive, just move on to a better platform and try to spread the word enough so the project doesn't die.

well... where is the subscribestar page? itch.io still links to nonexistent patreon page

 

[lostraven]

The only ones at fault here are devs because at the end of the day you're at Patreon's mercy if you use their platform.
Does your game have content that goes against Patreon stupid rules? You're fucked.
Use SS, Steam and other platforms if your game is not a vanilla soap opera.

I increasingly believe even games that fall under Patreon's TOS, should at the very least have a backup of subscribestar ready.

My main issue is not the question of rules violation, clearly we violated something, but rather,
the grossly unfair treatment of how those rules are applied for some devs and not others.

Well, that's what Uberpie is telling everyone. It's the only version that's been told.

I was there from watching the page go from suspended to removed, and it all happened within about 48 hours tops.
I can safely say whatever Patreon took issue with, there was little to no chance of actually fixing any problems in such a short window regardless.

I am 99% sure Uberpie would have done whatever it took to keep the Patreon afloat - that includes conforming to whatever changes they asked.

...

I'm currently in talks with Uberpie about what comes next direction wise, I suppose they'll be an annoucement soon-ish when a decision on the direction to take has been reached.

 

[Count Morado]

I was there from watching the page go from suspended to removed, and it all happened within about 48 hours tops.
I can safely say whatever Patreon took issue with, there was little to no chance of actually fixing any problems in such a short window regardless.

I am 99% sure Uberpie would have done whatever it took to keep the Patreon afloat - that includes conforming to whatever changes they asked.

Understood. However, you have no actual knowledge of what the letter from Patreon said or if it was the first attempt recently or the last attempt to have Uberpie get the content into compliance.

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I hope you the best in all your endeavors.

 

[Readerf2b]

So patreon thought that the game is too rapey.
That suck.

 

[lostraven]

And fixed.

Understood. However, you have no actual knowledge of what the letter from Patreon said or if it was the first attempt recently or the last attempt to have Uberpie get the content into compliance.

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[Count Morado]

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I most definitely don't know everything.
However, I am in contact with other developers, and well... We talk.

I am fully aware of that, as well. But developers are humans and present information to others which normally put them in the best light while putting those who are in opposition to them, or a shared obstacle with the people in the conversation, gets different representation within those conversations. Unless you've seen the receipts, yourself, you're still going on hearsay.

I think you are doing yourself a disservice by continuing down this track in the thread and on this site by discussing this in public. As you can see in several posts, while I have been quite stern in regards to Uberpie's situation - I have also pushed back when people have not presented the information about Uberpie fairly as well.

 

[lostraven]

I am fully aware of that, as well. But developers are humans and present information to others which normally put them in the best light while putting those who are in opposition to them, or a shared obstacle with the people in the conversation, gets different representation within those conversations. Unless you've seen the receipts, yourself, you're still going on hearsay.

I think you are doing yourself a disservice by continuing down this track in the thread and on this site by discussing this in public. As you can see in several posts, while I have been quite stern in regards to Uberpie's situation - I have also pushed back when people have not presented the information about Uberpie fairly as well.

I feel I've said enough at this point that I don't feel the need to continue down this rabbit hole.
I've explained the events as I saw them unfold from my POV.

Any further details would need to come from Uberpie himself so that's the last I'll say on the matter.

 

[neverthy]

If uberpie focused on the main route instead of spending so much time on rewriting the game to contain cuck content, this game might have already been finished. Oh, well there are other games to play.

 

[Count Morado]

If uberpie focused on the main route instead of spending so much time on rewriting the game to contain cuck content, this game might have already been finished. Oh, well there are other games to play.

Yeah, that's the problem.

 

[tinypenis420]

Well this is shit. Been checking up periodically waiting for the new Priscilla content. Legit enjoyed going through this game seeing it develop. Hated the artstyle at first now it's one of my favourites after it grew on me. Just tried making a discord to check the channel and got my account banned for whatever reason oh well.

Really hope this isn't then end of it seems like a lot of work to lose out on.

 

[Ntrsugar]

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Uberpie's been nudgin' Patreon's panties with his snout for awhile, even after the initial review back in the first year of development. I mean, once you've been reviewed - you should make sure to not create any content that could even be close to violating Patreon's guidelines... or you should move to a different platform because you're gonna get caught sooner or later. Better to leave early on your own terms than to become a top 20 adult game on a platform only to have a follow up review on your content, risking over $10,000 of monthly income and having to start all over somewhere else.

Max's little snout in Tiffany and Mary's gardens pushed Patreon's boundaries on bestiality.
MC's mind control over Mary pushed against Patreon's boundaries on non-con.
Gerda's storyline with the cult pushed Patreon's boundaries on non-con.
I'm actually surprised the game wasn't pulled from Patreon when the MC raped Clara in the bathroom, initially.
Scat and drinking urine from v0.95.7 pushed Patreon's boundaries.
The MC having Clara send her son Danny a topless photo with "Fuck me Danny" written on her breasts pushed Patreon's boundaries on incest.

While any one of these might have raised a red flag - I would wager that with so many little nudges, it warranted their Safety team a look at the content.

So the Fucks at Patreons did play the game, masturbated countless times and then decided to fuk the game and the creator.