Unity Taffy Tales [S5 v1.07.3c] [UberPie]

[anon_1001]

I played this game in early 2022, is it worth picking up again? And how close is it to being finished, if at all?

lol

 

[NotSoTasty]

I played this game in early 2022, is it worth picking up again? And how close is it to being finished, if at all?

No. But do whatever you want.

 

[TwoHeavens]

I played this game in early 2022, is it worth picking up again? And how close is it to being finished, if at all?

Try it if youre curious, its pretty bad now though. This game went from a top 10 to one of the worst because of one bad decision from the dev, in my opinion.

 

[jenseltersquats]

There's a bit of a spiral of Tiffany's development in season 5, but so far, so to speak, we haven't gotten to 18+ content, if memory serves me correctly

you've got to be kidding me bro. i stg why is it so hard to add content for her? she's won polls and he still doesn't add shit. what is the point? I swear we been waiting years just to have a crumb but fuckin clara gets a scene every damn update like Liara shadow broker dlc, when she should be out of the damn game by now.

 

[succhiale]

you've got to be kidding me bro. i stg why is it so hard to add content for her. she's won polls and he still doesn't add shit. what is the point. swear we been waiting years just to have a crumb but fuckin clara gets a scene every damn update.

Clara is my favorite character, so I have nothing against it. But I agree - it's not nice to have a character win in the polls and get very little development. Well judging by the latest announcement - we're expecting content for both Tiffany and Mary. But I have some doubts, because to rewrite what is already written - can not always succeed. Anyway, let's see what Uber is cooking up for us

 

[jenseltersquats]

Clara is my favorite character, so I have nothing against it. But I agree - it's not nice to have a character win in the polls and get very little development. Well judging by the latest announcement - we're expecting content for both Tiffany and Mary. But I have some doubts, because to rewrite what is already written - can not always succeed. Anyway, let's see what Uber is cooking up for us

I love the Clara content. This game has some of the hottest material. The wealth just needs to be spread evenly. I just don't understand why we needed extra clara stuff to the point it seems like a dlc after the main route is done. I just want him to do one route and move on to the next. Like I could freestyle a Tiffany route right now faster than I could come up with stuff for Clara because that well hasn't really been tapped.

 

[TheLonliestFapper]

Uber doing this really makes me wonder what the hell is stopping someone else from just jacking his art and making their own taffy tales? Would Uber even Care? Is his original art style in the public domain now since he’s seemingly abandoned it?

 

[Tyktamsyl]

I am so confused, what is going on with this game? I must’ve played this maybe 5 years ago and enjoyed it quite a bit. Are people being overly critical? Is some NTR forced now? I just opened it and saw it was reworked, and now I’m reading that it’s going to be reworked again? Are people just AI art haters?

Also people saying it’s abandoned even when I see people talking about the content they’re releasing by going back one page? I am so confused.

 

[succhiale]

I am so confused, what is going on with this game? I must’ve played this maybe 5 years ago and enjoyed it quite a bit. Are people being overly critical? Is some NTR forced now? I just opened it and saw it was reworked, and now I’m reading that it’s going to be reworked again? Are people just AI art haters?

Also people saying it’s abandoned even when I see people talking about the content they’re releasing by going back one page? I am so confused.

1) NTR is not forced. It's just not inserted where it was originally wanted, which is why some (including myself) aren't entirely happy with the plot and explanation for introducing it in season 5.
2) AI haters abound. Some of them write problems after the fact (faces, fingers, triple anuses, well the art with Clara (penultimate one) is pretty mediocre). Many just come and write - AI is shit, that's it.
3) The game is not abandoned. It's just that Uber is doing a second remake of seasons 1-4. There was already one, which took a very long time (relative to the usual update release time), and now it's remaking what was already remade (partially). Plus Uber mentioned a quick update that was expected 3-4 months after the current one, but Patreon's ban apparently messed up the plans and the update is now in the long box.
In general, the remake is being made for launch on Steam, from what I have managed to note - the action from high school will move to university or college (judging by the background on the art of Clara), will add content with Tiffany and Mary, icons on the map as in season 5, character biographies, a new interface (possibly).

 

[harem.king]

2) AI haters abound. Some of them write problems after the fact (faces, fingers, triple anuses, well the art with Clara (penultimate one) is pretty mediocre). Many just come and write - AI is shit, that's it.

> If you point out a girl has 6 fingers or 3 anuses you are an AI hater.

excuse me, but that label is BS.
I am not an AI hater, I am a shitty art hater.
if dev could somehow produce quality art with AI then I wouldn't complain. But dev is producing bad art with AI.

Best use I have seen for AI is to have a human hand draw the outline of a person and then let the AI fill it in.
This saves 95% of the time while producing quality results. but if you try to have 100% AI made art you get crap like having a character with 3 anuses. which is frankly unacceptable.

 

[Redelin]

Clara is my favorite character, so I have nothing against it. But I agree - it's not nice to have a character win in the polls and get very little development. Well judging by the latest announcement - we're expecting content for both Tiffany and Mary. But I have some doubts, because to rewrite what is already written - can not always succeed. Anyway, let's see what Uber is cooking up for us

I think new scenes to season 1 for Tiffany and Mary’s routes sound good on paper, my problem is the art is taking a nose dive with the AI usage lately. New scenes by Uber seem to be exclusively AI generated now. The lazy AI usage is one thing, but the fact that it’ll be a steam release is also worrying. So far we haven’t been given an inkling of what that means, but I would assume that steam wouldn’t be in favor of the nature of those characters actual relationships. Hopefully they make a patch but even that I doubt.

 

[succhiale]

> If you point out a girl has 6 fingers or 3 anuses you are an AI hater.

excuse me, but that label is BS.
I am not an AI hater, I am a shitty art hater.
if dev could somehow produce quality art with AI then I wouldn't complain. But dev is producing bad art with AI.

Best use I have seen for AI is to have a human hand draw the outline of a person and then let the AI fill it in.
This saves 95% of the time while producing quality results. but if you try to have 100% AI made art you get crap like having a character with 3 anuses. which is frankly unacceptable.

I guess I didn't put it right.
First of all, I don't think the three anuses are the fault of AI. You may as well blame brush or Photoshop. All the graphical errors are the fault of Uber, who didn't want to correct the AI art.
Secondly, it seems to me that Uber draws exactly as you describe - sketching and letting AI finish it (well, how to finish it is questionable. Because a “finished” AI art requires edits one way or another).
One last thing - I've always written that criticism of AI art is fine. Apparently I didn't put those who criticize on the case into the group of haters correctly, sorry. Hater in my understanding is someone who writes that AI art is shit and then walks off into the sunset.

 

[succhiale]

I think new scenes to season 1 for Tiffany and Mary’s routes sound good on paper, my problem is the art is taking a nose dive with the AI usage lately. New scenes by Uber seem to be exclusively AI generated now. The lazy AI usage is one thing, but the fact that it’ll be a steam release is also worrying. So far we haven’t been given an inkling of what that means, but I would assume that steam wouldn’t be in favor of the nature of those characters actual relationships. Hopefully they make a patch but even that I doubt.

Yes, I agree - it's not clear how it will be implemented, as Steam has enough limitations as well. As for the art - in general, except for the art with Clara, I'm willing to put up with all the others.

 

[Count Morado]

Secondly, it seems to me that Uber draws exactly as you describe - sketching and letting AI finish it (well, how to finish it is questionable. Because a “finished” AI art requires edits one way or another).

This is highly debatable. Based upon the body types being created - it is apparent to many, including myself, that what has happened is that Uberpie has fed an AI resident on his computer all of his previous artwork in order to train the AI to generate images that appear to be similar to Uberpie's previous work. The three anuses, the multiple fingers, the extra knee caps, the odd arms, the bulging odd multiple fat pockets along the body parts are exactly evidence that he is not sketching and then have the AI generate the art within the lines. Also, the great divergence from the character models, themselves, from when they were handrawn/traced by Uberpie (even when compared to his inability to remain on model in his own drawing endeavors) is also evidence which contradicts the idea that Uberpie is sketching first.

 

[succhiale]

This is highly debatable. Based upon the body types being created - it is apparent to many, including myself, that what has happened is that Uberpie has fed an AI resident on his computer all of his previous artwork in order to train the AI to generate images that appear to be similar to Uberpie's previous work. The three anuses, the multiple fingers, the extra knee caps, the odd arms, the bulging odd multiple fat pockets along the body parts are exactly evidence that he is not sketching and then have the AI generate the art within the lines. Also, the great divergence from the character models, themselves, from when they were handrawn/traced by Uberpie (even when compared to his inability to remain on model in his own drawing endeavors) is also evidence which contradicts the idea that Uberpie is sketching first.

If I'm not mistaken, the lack of a sketch is not at all a criterion in the problem of, for example, three anuses. Whether there is a sketch or not, if AI wants, it will draw three anuses. The only question is whether artist should correct art after generation or just forget about it. It's very difficult to create art entirely by AI means. Even if he trained the model based on his images (it's not really clear on which ones, because training on season 1-4 images won't help, because the difference in style is obvious, and season 5 is completely created by AI), it won't fix all the AI generation errors. Even if it's a perfect model, perfect prompt, perfect sketch, and perfect LORA of the character - there will be bugs one way or another. In general, my position is this - the quality of the final art depends only on the author and his willingness to refine the art.

 

[Tyktamsyl]

1) NTR is not forced. It's just not inserted where it was originally wanted, which is why some (including myself) aren't entirely happy with the plot and explanation for introducing it in season 5.
2) AI haters abound. Some of them write problems after the fact (faces, fingers, triple anuses, well the art with Clara (penultimate one) is pretty mediocre). Many just come and write - AI is shit, that's it.
3) The game is not abandoned. It's just that Uber is doing a second remake of seasons 1-4. There was already one, which took a very long time (relative to the usual update release time), and now it's remaking what was already remade (partially). Plus Uber mentioned a quick update that was expected 3-4 months after the current one, but Patreon's ban apparently messed up the plans and the update is now in the long box.
In general, the remake is being made for launch on Steam, from what I have managed to note - the action from high school will move to university or college (judging by the background on the art of Clara), will add content with Tiffany and Mary, icons on the map as in season 5, character biographies, a new interface (possibly).

Ah okay, thanks for replying, the comment section just seemed crazed, glad you could explain it. By the way, is there a reason they moved to AI art? Is there something wrong with their artist (whether that is cost issues or release times), or is it just placeholders so they can get more of the story out faster? Even if not, maybe someone should teach Uber about inpainting, which is extremely easy in what I use which is Automatic 1111, it’s great for fixing crazy stuff like extra limbs, toes, weird fingers, etc. I’d also say they should learn controlnet so they could just pose 3D models, but me personally I have had a really hard time trying to set that up (as well as I think it caused ram issues when using a1111).

 

[succhiale]

Ah okay, thanks for replying, the comment section just seemed crazed, glad you could explain it. By the way, is there a reason they moved to AI art? Is there something wrong with their artist (whether that is cost issues or release times), or is it just placeholders so they can get more of the story out faster?

The idea was that AI was supposed to speed up the release of updates. But, unfortunately, the deadlines remained the same or even increased.

 

[succhiale]

Even if not, maybe someone should teach Uber about inpainting, which is extremely easy in what I use which is Automatic 1111, it’s great for fixing crazy stuff like extra limbs, toes, weird fingers, etc.

Didn't notice the second part - yes, I too have dealt with Automatic1111 and I must say you are absolutely right. There's also a Photopea plugin built in there, integrated right into the SD environment, to and from which you can upload images to inpainting. There would be a desire to do so

 

[Count Morado]

In general, my position is this - the quality of the final art depends only on the author and his willingness to refine the art.

I would agree.

However, where it appears we disagree is the quality of the final art which Uberpie includes with this title now that he chiefly relies upon AI to generate the artwork.

It is obvious Uberpie does little-to-nothing to refine the art after it is generated by the AI (hence the three anuses, the extra digits, multiple kneecaps, odd fat deposits and other body dysmorphisms, as well as the complete loss of model consistency when compared to previous work). This lines up with his lack of attention to detail in earlier releases with codework, text proofreading, etc which is only amplified now.

For some, they do not care at the level presented. For others, it is distasteful. I am in the latter group.

 

[succhiale]

I would agree.

However, where it appears we disagree is the quality of the final art which Uberpie includes with this title now that he chiefly relies upon AI to generate the artwork.

It is obvious Uberpie does little-to-nothing to refine the art after it is generated by the AI (hence the three anuses, the extra digits, multiple kneecaps, odd fat deposits and other body dysmorphisms, as well as the complete loss of model consistency when compared to previous work). This lines up with his lack of attention to detail in earlier releases with codework, text proofreading, etc which is only amplified now.

For some, they do not care at the level presented. For others, it is distasteful. I am in the latter group.

I generally agree. Bugs that have existed since quite early versions (with cameras for example), uncorrected art, about the text can not say anything at all, because I do not know English perfectly or at least at a decent level. But yes, in general, I agree. Really, I rather belong to group 1. I realize that this is bad from the point of view that if everyone is like me, Uber will generally release every art with 12 fingers, 5 anuses, different faces and so on. That is, the more people like me, the more Uber will get lazy. But alas - the latest artwork looks pretty good to me. Especially with Brinda - for some reason I have a feeling that this art was finalized by hand.