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I only picked this game up last update so I don't know too much about the release schedule, but looking through Patreon 9.2 was Feb. 1, 8.1 was Nov. 30, and 7.1 was Oct. 11. It looked like an update was really consistent at 2 months. Is this update delayed for some reason or is this just the way it is? I love @lostraven being so involved here and I had told myself I was going to become a patron if 10.1 had released on that apparent consistent schedule, but I have second thoughts if releases lack consistency.
It's because the script I've delivered it's over twice the size of the last Sara update, (the Mega updates are even larger). Essentially, after this update is released it does come down to the financial situation on how fast we can produce content. Both of us still maintain and work full time jobs at the moment, and it's only the two of us developing the game. Ideally, we're hoping to have (at the very least) more free time and/or more resources to delegate work if necessary.

Please don't add this racist weird fetishes unless it's very optional.
It'll be very optional due to it's sensitive nature.
 
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Seriously dude? You aren't bothered by all the white denigration, black owned, black supremacy bullshit but get upset when even the idea of same thing happening with races switched? Wtf? Suddenly it's racist
Seeing how the only black guy in the antagonist and a horrible stereotype to make you hate him even more, I think that's the racist part. From your posts it seems like you have an issue with blacks. You were so upset about the cucking that he hardly does because you don't have a relationship in the game yet you're asking for options to harm him and other things.
What if the MC was Darnell, would you still hate the cuck part if it was reversed?
 

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Seeing how the only black guy in the antagonist and a horrible stereotype to make you hate him even more, I think that's the racist part. From your posts it seems like you have an issue with blacks. You were so upset about the cucking that he hardly does because you don't have a relationship in the game yet you're asking for options to harm him and other things.
What if the MC was Darnell, would you still hate the cuck part if it was reversed?

I have an issue with the way they're always used. If there's a black guy in the game bet your ass it's "BBC" and he'll cuck you, or he has fucked all the other chicks before you and is talking shit about whites. Name a single game where white MC while fucking a black girl called her any racially insensitive term
 

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I have an issue with the way they're always used. If there's a black guy in the game bet your ass it's "BBC" and he'll cuck you, or he has fucked all the other chicks before you and is talking shit about whites. Name a single game where white MC while fucking a black girl called her any racially insensitive term
Sounds like you have some issues you need to work out if you're playing games like this that affect you so much.
It's white people writing these things for the stereotype black chars that you are meant to hate. I didn't see Darnel call any char a racially insensitive term. Saying "white" then an insult isn't racist. How you were saying you want the char to call Darnels sister slave etc pretty much is.
 

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Sounds like you have some issues you need to work out if you're playing games like this that affect you so much.
It's white people writing these things for the stereotype black chars that you are meant to hate. I didn't see Darnel call any char a racially insensitive term. Saying "white" then an insult isn't racist. How you were saying you want the char to call Darnels sister slave etc pretty much is.

Darnel standing in the classroom talking about "white girls" "black owned" shop owner, or was it black only, either way. If blacks fuck someone it's the same. Then his behavior and implied treatment of sister. If one can happen why not both? If I was racist I wouldn't want blacks in any way. I simply have a kink that no one has ever used before in a game and am angry and tired of the same old trope rehashed
 

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I have an issue with the way they're always used. If there's a black guy in the game bet your ass it's "BBC" and he'll cuck you, or he has fucked all the other chicks before you and is talking shit about whites. Name a single game where white MC while fucking a black girl called her any racially insensitive term
Seeing how the only black guy in the antagonist and a horrible stereotype to make you hate him even more, I think that's the racist part. From your posts it seems like you have an issue with blacks. You were so upset about the cucking that he hardly does because you don't have a relationship in the game yet you're asking for options to harm him and other things.
What if the MC was Darnell, would you still hate the cuck part if it was reversed?
Will all due respect both, this conversation isn't one that I want clogging up the thread.

As for Darnell, I have to admit how he was written prior to my arrival needs a lot of work, but I have planned to expand on his motivations and thoughts as one of the antagonists. (Obviously you'll see a very different side to his character in the 'friendship route.')

All I can say is that any heavy 'race-play' will be handled to the best of my abilities, and yes, I have put thought into how to write this though I do wish to clarify, this is a porn game...and one does have to separate fantasy from reality, take from that what you will.
 

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As long as it's there, equality and all that I'll be happy. Bonus if we can rub his face in it.


Why did the main creator give up the story to someone else? Why change it and the idea?
 

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Why did the main creator give up the story to someone else? Why change it and the idea?
I'm unsure as to the first few months of this games development as they didn't involve me. Anything I write is read and approved by the main dev (Uber) first, but I will say the game's first few months were 'controversial' to say the least.
 
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I'm unsure as to the first few months of this games development as they didn't involve me. Anything I write is read and approved by the main dev (Uber) first, but I will say the game's first few months were 'controversial' to say the least.

Controversial in what way? Did he give up writing because of it to someone else? How is he still involved? Sorry if you're bussy
 

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Controversial in what way? Did he give up writing because of it to someone else? How is he still involved? Sorry if you're bussy
The short answer is that the game was very much up in the air on how optional the NTR was, where the game was going etc etc that it split audiences down the middle. How is who involved? Uber is the Main dev, it's his game and characters, artwork, coding etc. I'm just the writer.
 

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You've said that you're going to be releasing the NTR path at least somewhat concurrent to the main path, is that also going to be true of the friendship path or will that be released after the main path is finished or near finished? Obviously I know you probably don't know for certain but I'm just curious.

Also, you said the mega updates will be the first real introduction to the overall plot, do you plan on having three different points of view for each of the three paths on the plot at large or will the plot stay mostly the same?
 

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You've said that you're going to be releasing the NTR path at least somewhat concurrent to the main path, is that also going to be true of the friendship path or will that be released after the main path is finished or near finished? Obviously I know you probably don't know for certain but I'm just curious.


Also, you said the mega updates will be the first real introduction to the overall plot, do you plan on having three different points of view for each of the three paths on the plot at large or will the plot stay mostly the same?
I haven't quite figured that out yet with Uber.

Some plot points will very much stay the same, but 'new' information may come to light on certain characters that the other routes won't reveal. (No, before anyone jumps down my throat, it's not gonna be 'Darnell was fucking them all along', I mean more twists into the lore of Taffy Town and character history/motivation).
 

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It's because the script I've delivered it's over twice the size of the last Sara update, (the Mega updates are even larger). Essentially, after this update is released it does come down to the financial situation on how fast we can produce content. Both of us still maintain and work full time jobs at the moment, and it's only the two of us developing the game. Ideally, we're hoping to have (at the very least) more free time and/or more resources to delegate work if necessary.
The ol' catch-22. You need money to become stable but you need to be stable before people like me want to give money. I guess I'll just keep an eye on development a little longer for now. You guys are doing pretty great so far.

I'm unsure as to the first few months of this games development as they didn't involve me. Anything I write is read and approved by the main dev (Uber) first, but I will say the game's first few months were 'controversial' to say the least.
I believe you once said that some of the early parts of the game are being re-written as well. Once the next version is out would you say that enough will have changed to be worth starting the game over to see it? The first scene with Becca getting molested by Darnell and friends made me very uncomfortable (somehow it's different when we do it to Claire because she comes around to wanting it), and the rape of the store clerk is just confusing.

As an aside, will we be able to change the aspect ratio of the window in the future? I usually like playing these Unity porn games in a 1600x900 window.
 
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The ol' catch-22. You need money to become stable but you need to be stable before people like me want to give money. I guess I'll just keep an eye on development a little longer for now. You guys are doing pretty great so far.



I believe you once said that some of the early parts of the game are being re-written as well. Once the next version is out would you say that enough will have changed to be worth starting the game over to see it? The first scene with Becca getting molested by Darnell and friends made me very uncomfortable (somehow it's different when we do it to Claire because she comes around to wanting it), and the rape of the store clerk is just confusing.

As an aside, will we be able to change the aspect ratio of the window in the future? I usually like playing these Unity porn games in a 1600x900 window.
It's definitely a catch twenty-two, but we hope that people appreciate the work we produce and that it'll pay off in the long run :)

The store clerk isn't raped, she's one of the few girls who isn't part of the main rota of girls, she just likes to fuck, much like the girl whose left post anal-fuck in that one scene. I may add something in later where she finds the MC is just 'too good' but I dunno, we'll see.

The molestation will still be in the game, but there are (should be this update) more options to react different to Darnell during the early stages of the game...and I still need to give it one more 'final' redraft to fix the last couple narrative problems.
 
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Ahhhhh i love it here............10% of us asking legitimate questions the other 90% BITCHING and CRYING over ntr what a wonderful thread......... but seriously if your too fucking dense to read the BIG ASS LETTERS that read OPTIONAL or you know ......... read the other 78 comments that also ask the same thing and get the same answer ....... you know what i got it ill come back everyday at 5pm and post "NTR IS OPTIONAL"
 
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I held off on this game for a long time, despite the art being good. Game just wasn't for me, not really big on ntr/cuck stuff and that seemed like the bulk of what was on offer. Darnell was that stereotypical black dude, where all da white wimmenz at shiiiit, type of guy, the one that you might find in some cheap bbc comics or something. The MC was a mess of two extremes with one bordering on American Psycho sociopath and the other being ultracuck. Whatever @lostraven has been doing he's somehow managed to make what was once a meme sort of game, into something pretty damn decent.

Darnell isn't some caricature of a bbc trope, he actually has some depth to him, as evidenced by his interactions with his sister and him getting upset in class after the 'medicine' gets snatched from his house. The two sides to the MC are smoothed out some too, (although at some point the good boy aspect has gotta grow a pair). Personally, I'd like to see a bit more agency in the long run, where you can play super straight edge or ultra asshole.

I for one can appreciate the changed made and it really shows, as for squabbles over whether or not things are racist or whatever, you can not like a poorly written or one dimensional character and not be a racist. Like I wasn't too keen on a black spiderman, but Miles Morales is actually pretty damn good, my original thoughts were it's some dumb sjw shit and I was pleasantly surprised (watch Spiderman: Into the Spider-verse if you haven't already). I think the changes to Darnell's character have definitely made him a much more interesting character and I look forward to seeing how things develop later on.

My one gripe is the dog, He has been there since the beginning and has seen 0 action. He's a good boy. He deserves some action. Throw the dog a bone already. Maybe he can wander into the neighbors backyard, maybe he will find her in a compromising situation and knock on the backdoor, (yes I know dogs don't have hands). Okay two gripes, the mom/sister have little content too, would be nice if they had something to offer.
 

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I wish I had some news to give you guys, we're on the last stretch of development so it is imminent.
I'm just desperately waiting for Uber to send me over a Beta so I can proof-read and bug-test that fucker so we can release it as soon as possible.

Anyway, here's some more of how the art design is done, for those interested. Uber actually re-designed the MC's head over 3 times till he was finally satisfied.
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