VN Ren'Py Tales from the Unending Void [S3 v0.23 Extra Edition] [Perverteer]

[Avaron1974]

I also feel that the straight girls suddenly being bisexual just to fit the harem scenes is kinda stupid just like all the lesbian become bisexual at the sight of the hypno-dick. But i understand it would be a bulky process to have selective harem scenes with all girls depending on their sexuality while still having the coding still keeping track which girl the mc chooses to romance plus the additional renders and writing.

However if you choose to implement such decisions later or in a future game it might be good to watch how reunion is doing it, same harem type game.In short you have the choice to decide if the lil sister will watch/masturbate while her lesbian friends are going at it in the pool. Then in the next days there is a scene where the sad big sister will cuddle with lil sis to sleep. Now if you choose not to watch then they cuddle and sleep normally but if you choose to watch you get a little action. At this point in time the mc is still working on repairing his fractured relationships with the girls. This way you don't magically decide to make the girls bisexuals when with the mc but rather drop a small curiosity out there that develops on its own.

Dev did say it's going to be like Sisterly Lust where the girls were bisexual.

That being said, no girls in this game have said they were straight so it's not a magical shift.

 

[Abhai]

yep all girls are bisex, all men are bisex, everything is peachy, love is all around as it should be *bad sarcasm off*
if optional anything is good, yet if player is just a thrall forced to participate in various scenes he/she/it have no preferences for (due to game "setup" he/she/it isnt aware till its already given) - better to move to better games then, and good luck to the dev and all his/hers/its fans.

 

[Mayonesa]

That being said, no girls in this game have said they were straight so it's not a magical shift.

Just to point it out, neither has the girls in this game said they were bisex, so your point is kind of moot. If they are aiming to get a relationship with the MC, which is a male, then after deciding to share him, they are suddently ok with lesbian sex, it is a magical shift, because if they were into girls or were bisex all the time, they would have gone to try interact between each other without the MC needing to do something, it doesn't happens until after he has started a relationship with them, same as SL, so yeah, let's call it porn logic and leave it at that. I won't be able to make you change your point of view since you actually like it, but if a girl/man it's bisex it will show it before needing the MC to be with them and before deciding to share him/her, otherwise it seems more a magical/porn point than normal.

 

[CHAD-MAN]

SL wasn't ruined by going for a full harem, so this won't be either. Perverteer knows what they're doing.

I trust Perv to know what he's doing, tho it worries me since there's quite the collection of LI in the game, and I wish we had some consequences in romance like Perv said at some point. My point, mostly, was me hoping to have some fun rn and a chance or the choice to break it up with some of the characters down the line, like with Celine with not saying "I love you" back and not making the "relationship" public and eventually having a chance to break it up for good, like "we had fun n' all, but this is the end". We'll see what the future holds, we still have a long way to go in this game. I cant remember much from how SL was handled in this specific regard tbh.

Just to point it out, neither has the girls in this game said they were bisex, so your point is kind of moot. If they are aiming to get a relationship with the MC, which is a male, then after deciding to share him, they are suddently ok with lesbian sex, it is a magical shift, because if they were into girls or were bisex all the time, they would have gone to try interact between each other without the MC needing to do something, it doesn't happens until after he has started a relationship with them, same as SL, so yeah, let's call it porn logic and leave it at that. I won't be able to make you change your point of view since you actually like it, but if a girl/man it's bisex it will show it before needing the MC to be with them and before deciding to share him/her, otherwise it seems more a magical/porn point than normal.

Ence my original worry about building an harem, if its not truly believable (and there's a lot of those), whats the point, really? And good god creating an harem of women in this game wont be much of harem, but an army

 

[NoStepOnSnek]

Just to point it out, neither has the girls in this game said they were bisex, so your point is kind of moot. If they are aiming to get a relationship with the MC, which is a male, then after deciding to share him, they are suddently ok with lesbian sex, it is a magical shift, because if they were into girls or were bisex all the time, they would have gone to try interact between each other without the MC needing to do something, it doesn't happens until after he has started a relationship with them, same as SL, so yeah, let's call it porn logic and leave it at that. I won't be able to make you change your point of view since you actually like it, but if a girl/man it's bisex it will show it before needing the MC to be with them and before deciding to share him/her, otherwise it seems more a magical/porn point than normal.

Because mom totally didn't have a sexual relationship with Adriana for years and Bella and Liza definitely didn't experiment before the harem became official...

 

[Mayonesa]

Because mom totally didn't have a sexual relationship with Adriana for years and Bella and Liza definitely didn't experiment before the harem became official...

So a few woman that are bisex/lesbian means that all that can be in the harem are the same, nice logic there.

 

[Avaron1974]

So a few woman that are bisex/lesbian means that all that can be in the harem are the same, nice logic there.

Rachel's 2 friends had been fucking each other for a while. Rachel was bi curious.

Riley had experimented before.

The one and only member of the harem that hadn't been with a woman before was the vicars wife and she was up for anything after rediscovering her love for life.

 

[Perverteer]

Nice Skyrim assets e-e

Uh, I'm pretty sure none of the assets are ripped from Skyrim.

Will that be avoidable? I mean, lesbian scenes doesn't do much to me in games and I'm kind of tired of the porn logic in "harem" games where every girl in the harem is a bisexual or will be in the future. So will it be avoidable or unavoidable? Because I love to play harem games, where the girls are focused in the MC and love him, not him and each other (polyrelationship/polyamory is not the same as harem), not female turning bisex for the sake of it, even if they were straight, etc.

I'm just asking because that was what didn't let me enjoy your other game and all the "harem" games where they force the girls in the harem to fuck each other, turn bisex, and the MC is ok with it without a choice, so before being dissapointed I prefer to ask.

I'm not completely sure on how I will handle it, but as others have pointed out the lesbian interplay wasn't avoidable in the orgy scenes of Sisterly Lust either. I do want to prepare some of the characters for lesbian encounters, like Liza and Bella did before they joined the harem, for example. Turning down any group scenes would perhaps be a way to avoid lesbian scenes, but at that point I fail to see the point of having a harem, to be honest.

ok, with that unavoidable orgies/ffffm(m?) scenes planned, a big question is - can trans/futa be included there as well?
or at least few girls could use strapons, so there will be no other (fleshy) cocks apart mcs, yet much more fun overall...
and wth not, mc could/should also get his fair share of cock.
as the story progresses i would say he should be bisex also, so despite mcs-cocks-only policy, he could/should get some deeper love, while not breaking any "rule", that way

Yes, both Ziv and Raene will eventually become part of the harem if you want them to and take part in the group sex. The MC being on the receiving end of any trans/futa character will be entirely optional, just like the way you could engage Luzane, but I'd like to do those scenes.

I trust Perv to know what he's doing, tho it worries me since there's quite the collection of LI in the game, and I wish we had some consequences in romance like Perv said at some point. My point, mostly, was me hoping to have some fun rn and a chance or the choice to break it up with some of the characters down the line, like with Celine with not saying "I love you" back and not making the "relationship" public and eventually having a chance to break it up for good, like "we had fun n' all, but this is the end". We'll see what the future holds, we still have a long way to go in this game. I cant remember much from how SL was handled in this specific regard tbh.



Ence my original worry about building an harem, if its not truly believable (and there's a lot of those), whats the point, really? And good god creating an harem of women in this game wont be much of harem, but an army

The answers you gave Céline are tracked in the game, so they'll have consequences later on. These choices were present in Sisterly Lust as well. Rachel could break up with you for example if you neglected her, or you could break up with her.

As for the harem, I'm not sure how realistic the whole concept is in theory, but I'm going to try and make it look as natural as possible in the game.

 

[Perverteer]

That's where you and most authors fail, you can have a group sex scene without needing every member to interact with every member. Two girls sharing a guy and being in a threesome, can have a threesome without needing to kiss each other/touch each other/ have sex with each other, they can focus on they guy they "love" that much that were ok to share. Same as two guys can have a threesome with a girl without needing to kiss each other/ have sex with each other and so, because not all the people in the world are bisex, and it isn't needed to have group sex, you can focus on someone. Saying that to have group sex scenes all the party involved need to interact with each other is kind of naive.

What you like/describe isn't an harem but polyamory and it isn't the same as harem, harem bunch of guys/girls that decide to share one guy/girl because they love him/her, if they love each other and the MC, it isn't the harem kink anymore, because you become one more of the relationships those girls have and not the focal point like in harem genre, so it fits more with polyamory. No matter what polyamory is not the same as harem, you may think it is, but it's not and if you like that fine, just pointing out it isn't the same fetish, harem doesn't mean the MC needs to share the girls with each other, while polyamory yes, people that like being "the king of the harem" but that don't like to share and or lesbian sex exist, because to be the focal point it's a part of that kink.

I'm just tired of games adversing "harems" where you can't decide anything that happens in it, where a girl suddently turn bisex or you watch how a LI of your "harem" is fucking other LI of your "harem" without you knowing it and instead of having a choice to not like it, the dev forces the MC to be ok with it, or "harem" games that later becomes a lesbfest because "lesbian sex is good, if you don't like it you are weird",or "would you want the girls there waiting for you instead of fuckign each others? even if the point of the harem is for them to share you as MC not each other...lol that's nonsense", or "I can't do a group sex scene if everyone involved in it isn't bisex because it's imposible for there to be people straight and if they are they become bi by porn logic", etc.

Whatever, sorry for the rant, I will just leave now, this game isn't for me and now I know it, thanks for answering.

I think it's fair to say I'm more interested in polyamory than a harem in the classical definition of the term. As for threesomes, isn't the kink that you have an extra partner in an otherwise two-way relationship? Why wouldn't you touch and kiss that extra partner? I know I would.

Anyway, this isn't going to be the game where the MC is the only one touching members of the harem during orgies. What I do want to try is develop any lesbian feelings or bi-curiosity before something happens. With games like these you have to suspend your disbelief anyway, but I'd like to try and ease the girls into it at some point in the story.

Just a parting thought, if your game was a reversed harem game, a bunch of guys sharing a girl, would you make the group sex with the guys fucking each other unavoidable? Or would you make that part avoidable? Because using the same logic as in this game/most games that have "harems", the guys would need to be bisex or become bisex over time, so by that logic if it was a reversed harem would the gay parts of the group sex be unavoidable or would the scene be about the two guys fucking that girl and nothing more?

Yes, that would be optional, but only because I know the player base and the majority absolutely loathes sharing their women. This thread would devolve into an NTR-bonanza and that wouldn't be any fun at all. Personally, I have less problems with sharing in games and when I watch real pornography for scientific purposes, I love to watch double penetration scenes from time to time and creampie gangbangs really get me off. But I know it isn't what most of my players want to see, so I either make it optional or don't include it. I don't know many people who object to lesbian scenes, however.

 

[Adalace]

I'm in the middle of my first playthrough, and I was so struck by the excellent music that I wanted to come here and compliment it. The tracks that I'm thinking of in particular are very low-key solo piano or otherwise minimalistic. They are setting a fantastic mood.

I wish there was an easy way to determine which track is currently playing, but I know that's not a trivial feature and in lieu of that the music credits screen must suffice. Thank gods for Kevin Macleod, right? It seems like his work comprises half of every good VN soundtrack.

 

[CHAD-MAN]

The answers you gave Céline are tracked in the game, so they'll have consequences later on. These choices were present in Sisterly Lust as well. Rachel could break up with you for example if you neglected her, or you could break up with her.

As for the harem, I'm not sure how realistic the whole concept is in theory, but I'm going to try and make it look as natural as possible in the game.

Well that's good to know, I do enjoy a good series of role-play romance drama and I am hoping for some cats fights in the future rather than just collecting women like Pokemon for an harem I do like a bit of jealousy going around and for the MC fighting a bit for it too, if he wants it, not just giving a yes or no choice and bam, another one in the harem... if that makes sense. Anyway, its likely I wont go full harem or maybe even only end up with 1 (maybe 2) LIs if possible. But I gotta say, its reasuring knowing you can't go around fkg the galaxy without consequences, but I do hope the story can be written in a way that sometimes the relationship status might be out of Camran's hands (considering your previous choices ofc). I guess we'll see, I am always hyped to continue the story regardless.

 

[cxx]

The one and only member of the harem that hadn't been with a woman before was the vicars wife and she was up for anything after rediscovering her love for life.

and liza.

 

[Avaron1974]

and liza.

She had a thing with Bella before the harem was started.

 

[jackkane]

I think it's fair to say I'm more interested in polyamory than a harem in the classical definition of the term. As for threesomes, isn't the kink that you have an extra partner in an otherwise two-way relationship? Why wouldn't you touch and kiss that extra partner? I know I would.

Anyway, this isn't going to be the game where the MC is the only one touching members of the harem during orgies. What I do want to try is develop any lesbian feelings or bi-curiosity before something happens. With games like these you have to suspend your disbelief anyway, but I'd like to try and ease the girls into it at some point in the story.

Yes, that would be optional, but only because I know the player base and the majority absolutely loathes sharing their women. This thread would devolve into an NTR-bonanza and that wouldn't be any fun at all. Personally, I have less problems with sharing in games and when I watch real pornography for scientific purposes, I love to watch double penetration scenes from time to time and creampie gangbangs really get me off. But I know it isn't what most of my players want to see, so I either make it optional or don't include it. I don't know many people who object to lesbian scenes, however.

can we bang any of the sisters yet?

 

[cxx]

can we bang any of the sisters yet?

no.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

can we bang any of the sisters yet?

Not yet, but things really developed with Lily in the last update.

 

[Avaron1974]

Apparently i have a retarded mod stalking me deleting my posts for reasons logical only to his dumb mind.

It seems the discussion we had about a topic about the game was offtopic.

Had the same thing in another thread, I talked about something that happened in the game when a meal was cooked but it seems there is a rule that talking about stuff that happens in the game is now offtopic.

I can't keep up to be honest. Crack a joke, it's deleted for being offtopic, talk about the game and it's deleted for being offtopic.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

It seems that talking about harem and polyamour routes in a game that feature both is now off topic...

 

[Snugglepuff]

It seems that talking about harem and polyamour routes in a game that feature both is now off topic...

It's more about how said discussion had gone off into "Tangent Land", with more being discussed about harems, definition(s) etc, than discussing those actual aspects within context to/with the game itself.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

It's more about how said discussion had gone off into "Tangent Land", with more being discussed about harems, definition(s) etc, than discussing those actual aspects within context to/with the game itself.

But when a discussion happens because of content within the game, that shouldn't be considered "off-topic". Discussing the nature of a harem is relevant to this game.