LazyKeks

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Yeah, to be fair a few comments straight up said incorrect things about how events unfold. To be completely, 110% clear: the game is divided in 2 Routes. You HAVE to play one after the other, as it's a full story divided in those two. During the 1st Route - which is divided in 5 Chapters - during the 3rd Chapter the Main Character will help another man fuck one of the game's six girls, since he didn't have any interest in her yet, because he gets off of causing chaos. It honestly depends on whether you can accept that part, to be honest: it's not NTR, and it's not even Netorase since the main character, at that point, didn't care one bit for that girl. I see some in this thread disliked that someone aside from the MC gets to fuck her, so it really does depend on your personal thoughts on the matter.

That's it. If you never lose during the 2nd Route, no one but you gets to fuck the girls. Meanwhile, in the 1st Route, that's the only instance where you see someone else have sex, and even then, it's not with a girl the protagonist had any interested in yet. There is no forced NTR in this game, and even then what little there is of NTR is completely optional if you lose certain fights, and doesn't exist for anything but as a set of extra scenes you can see if you're interested in them.

Hope this helped!
Then I will clarify a few points. Route 2 is a new passage of the game, or is it a continuation of the game and the events take place there after the girls were "danced" by random dudes, with the help of mс? (I looked at the gallery and most of the content there is either route 1 or ntr, and on route 2 I counted 8-9 events).
 

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Then I will clarify a few points. Route 2 is a new passage of the game, or is it a continuation of the game and the events take place there after the girls were "danced" by random dudes, with the help of mс? (I looked at the gallery and most of the content there is either route 1 or ntr, and on route 2 I counted 8-9 events).
Route 2 is a direct continuation of Route 1, basically directly after. Also, just small correction, but I really want to insist on the fact that, in Route 1, the girls aren't "danced" around by random dudes. The MC assaults them in battle or during the story, and one - and exclusively one - gets fucked during Chapter 3 by another guy with the help of MC, who gave him the power to be able to do that.

But yeah, Route 1 is more focused on the "attack girls as a monster and rape them", while Route 2 is more focused on the characters and story, and each H Scene only comes after two Sidestories for each girl. That's why it may look like it has less content just by counting H Scenes ahahah
 

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Route 2 is a direct continuation of Route 1, basically directly after. Also, just small correction, but I really want to insist on the fact that, in Route 1, the girls aren't "danced" around by random dudes. The MC assaults them in battle or during the story, and one - and exclusively one - gets fucked during Chapter 3 by another guy with the help of MC, who gave him the power to be able to do that.

But yeah, Route 1 is more focused on the "attack girls as a monster and rape them", while Route 2 is more focused on the characters and story, and each H Scene only comes after two Sidestories for each girl. That's why it may look like it has less content just by counting H Scenes ahahah
Well, then I'll probably limit myself to route 1. Because initially I thought that route 2 is something like NG+. And since this is a continuation of the story, it looks like a bad joke to me. Like, first you rape the girls, they (her) are fucked by some person with your help, and then you try to romance with them. Sounds absurd, even for a porn game :ROFLMAO: .
Forgot 1 thing (UPD). On route 2, half of the content is dedicated to NTR (battle defeat), which, in my opinion, adds absurdity to the romantic part. (Although I'm not sure here, I'm judging only by the gallery)
Well, anyway, thanks for the answers, they really helped :).
 

Leo D. Marstone

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Is it normal for me to fight against the name giver of the Game in Chapter 1 already? xD

I mean the Game says kill player and raise your level....I did exactly that. Am wandering aimlessly from area through area without real indicator if I progress or not.
Also I have all Monster at level 100-ish.

Now I reached the Sanctuary of Light which sounds pretty endgame to me and can fight against the glitch dude....in Chapter 1 of Route 1.
I feel like I am missing something here.
 

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Well, then I'll probably limit myself to route 1. Because initially I thought that route 2 is something like NG+. And since this is a continuation of the story, it looks like a bad joke to me. Like, first you rape the girls, they (her) are fucked by some person with your help, and then you try to romance with them. Sounds absurd, even for a porn game :ROFLMAO: .
Forgot 1 thing (UPD). On route 2, half of the content is dedicated to NTR (battle defeat), which, in my opinion, adds absurdity to the romantic part. (Although I'm not sure here, I'm judging only by the gallery)
Well, anyway, thanks for the answers, they really helped :).
Best to not trust the gallery, cause those scenes are totally avoidable, and there's definitely more romantic scenes in route 2 than the "NTR" stuff. To each their own however, but you're really gonna miss out on some nice romantic scenes in Route 2 if you're into that (nothing new, some are quite cliche but still nice). And as someone indifferent to NTR, if i run into something that does rub me off the wrong way (especially if its the kind that goes too deep into ruining someone's pysche and enjoying it like.. yknow, the way the MC in this game kinda acts in the first chapter), I just tend to hit ctrl and appreciate the art of the scenes themselves. (The No-Data scene with Warrior is particularly great).

And while it may sound absurd on paper story telling wise to go from bad guy to trying to redeem himself (its quite jarring assuredly, cause even though his memory gets "wiped", YOU remember what the MC did.), at least the game is trying to do something different than the usual "get stats, dictates what will happen" affair.

It's definitely a game for the open-minded, since for the story to work you have to LET the story tell itself instead of trying to constantly contradict it (which is something logic usually argues against). Ultimately it fails a bit since it lacks build up in parts, as well as the dialog not being as heavy as it should be with what they were trying, and not explaining some lapses in world logic.

We're all playing a hentai game in the end (aka worlds which are crafted so it'd end up in some form of debauchery anyway) so...


Is it normal for me to fight against the name giver of the Game in Chapter 1 already? xD

I mean the Game says kill player and raise your level....I did exactly that. Am wandering aimlessly from area through area without real indicator if I progress or not.
Also I have all Monster at level 100-ish.

Now I reached the Sanctuary of Light which sounds pretty endgame to me and can fight against the glitch dude....in Chapter 1 of Route 1.
I feel like I am missing something here.
Tap the " v event" board in the hideout to progress the story. That's something the game really needed to have signposted better (kek), maybe even with a bigger notification.
 
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Is it normal for me to fight against the name giver of the Game in Chapter 1 already? xD

I mean the Game says kill player and raise your level....I did exactly that. Am wandering aimlessly from area through area without real indicator if I progress or not.
Also I have all Monster at level 100-ish.

Now I reached the Sanctuary of Light which sounds pretty endgame to me and can fight against the glitch dude....in Chapter 1 of Route 1.
I feel like I am missing something here.
Ahahahahahah oh wow, you really reached the final area without starting the game? I can only praise you for your efforts ahahah, that's pretty amazing

But yeah, as the other comment said, you need to use the board in your Hideout to start the various Chapters. Not like you'll have any issue beating the various battles at this point ahahah
 
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LazyKeks

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Best to not trust the gallery, cause those scenes are totally avoidable, and there's definitely more romantic scenes in route 2 than the "NTR" stuff. To each their own however, but you're really gonna miss out on some nice romantic scenes in Route 2 if you're into that (nothing new, some are quite cliche but still nice). And as someone indifferent to NTR, if i run into something that does rub me off the wrong way (especially if its the kind that goes too deep into ruining someone's pysche and enjoying it like.. yknow, the way the MC in this game kinda acts in the first chapter), I just tend to hit ctrl and appreciate the art of the scenes themselves. (The No-Data scene with Warrior is particularly great).

And while it may sound absurd on paper story telling wise to go from bad guy to trying to redeem himself (its quite jarring assuredly, cause even though his memory gets "wiped", YOU remember what the MC did.), at least the game is trying to do something different than the usual "get stats, dictates what will happen" affair.

It's definitely a game for the open-minded, since for the story to work you have to LET the story tell itself instead of trying to constantly contradict it (which is something logic usually argues against). Ultimately it fails a bit since it lacks build up in parts, as well as the dialog not being as heavy as it should be with what they were trying.

We're all playing a hentai game in the end (aka worlds which are crafted so it'd end up in some form of debauchery anyway) so...




Tap the " v event" board in the hideout to progress the story. That's something the game really needed to have signposted better (kek), maybe even with a bigger notification.
Well, just because I remember what the MC was doing, for me girls, like LI, lose all meaning. If the game had originally had a choice, to go on the path of evil or good, it would be a pretty interesting game in which the player's choice really means something. And the player would face the consequences of the type, along the path of evil, you will be 1 (loneliness), and along the path of good, you will constantly need to protect your girls. And in the end, I will not have any desire to go on route 2 when I finish 1, because, as I wrote above, this is some kind of bad joke.
And what the game is now is rather an interactive linear story, in which the player's choice is limited by spending karma / money. I originally thought that having 2 routes implies a choice, which I described above.
And yes, I'm not a fan of NTR in any form, this most likely also affects my unwillingness to touch route 2, but here to each his own.
And to perceive the game just as a set of "ctrl" pictures, well, then it's easier for me not to start the game, but to look at the art on which realty site. Like, why play a game if you don't play a game? Although here, as it is more convenient to whom.
 

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That's not NTR though. NTR isn't "someone else aside from the MC having sex in the proximity of said MC". I understand not being into that, but it does not classify as NTR.
that's totally wrong tho.
at 3rd chapter it is "someone else aside from MC is having sex with one of heroines in the proximity of said MC."
 

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Have you even check what NTR, or in this case, Netorare means? They don't have any relationship with each other. If the game's played by doing the second route first before the evil route, then I understand why some may call it Netorare. But come on, man. Learn the difference between letting your acquaintance got fucked by others for revenge, for getting yourself cucked, and for swinging (kinda similar to the second one tbh).
Have you even check what NTR means?
It is when somebody else has sex with your possible love interest.
Everything else is just details which define type of NTR or good/bad NTR by the personal taste of some people.
Everything you have listed are quite typical sorts of NTR.
Once again for slowpokes - NTR includes netorare but NTR is way more broad term.
 

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that's totally wrong tho.
at 3rd chapter it is "someone else aside from MC is having sex with one of heroines in the proximity of said MC."
To complete your sentence: "...After the MC pushed them to do so with a girl they had no emotional nor sexual interest in at that moment". It's still not NTR.

In general though, I'd prefer for the thread to not get filled with the usual "NTR-related debate". I already explained more than clearly, in multiple answers, what happens in that single scenario. If, even then, you hate that and you don't want to play the game for it, I can understand. Please let's not have a billion back and forths about this though, as it just fills the thread with useless discussion anyone on this forum has read about a billion times already.
 

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To complete your sentence: "...After the MC pushed them to do so with a girl they had no emotional nor sexual interest in at that moment". It's still not NTR.
To complete your sentence: "which doesnt make it any less ntr"
 

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Ahahahahahah oh wow, you really reached the final area without starting the game? I can only praise you for your efforts ahahah, that's pretty amazing

But yeah, as the other comment said, you need to use the board in your Hideout to start the various Chapters. Not like you'll have any issue beating the various battles at this point ahahah
Wait....
Oh my fucking god....and here I thought I was already in Chapter 1.

I checked the Board and all and I could roam around so I thought I just need to find something to progress.
Never "clicked" on Chapter 1.......man man man

Edit:Just out of curiosity....what happens If I kill him? xD
 

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To complete your sentence: "which doesnt make it any less ntr"
As I mentioned, I'd prefer if this sort of discussion stopped, as it's been repeated way, way too many times at this point, and it has no use aside from polluting threads with unneeded arguments. I explained more than enough times, and in enough detail exactly what happens in that scene, and if that's enough to turn some folks away from the game, then it's okay, everyone has their limits at some point or another.

But just because you made up your own definition of NTR based on your personal tastes, you still can't force it on others. The strict definition is "Cheating or being unfaithful to a significant other", or at the very least being related to infidelity. That's not the case here. Your "NTR includes netorare but NTR is way more broad term" is ridiculous, NTR is the shortened way to refer to Netorare, to the point where it would be incorrect to use the word to refer to variances of Netorare (like Netori or Netorase).

Now, once again: I don't care for a reply or an explanation on why you think I'm wrong, because I'm sure you still think I am. I just don't want to pollute the discussion thread for this game with these sorts of messages, which the thread already has had too many of. I can't believe they even started appearing on discussion for a game where NTR was an optional bonus if you lose certain fights, in the first place.
 
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Leo D. Marstone

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I can't believe they even started appearing on discussion for a game where NTR was an optional bonus if you lose certain fights, in the first place.
You underestimated the NTR boys in any shape or form DarkSky.
If a Game has a slight hint of any sort of NTR it will be discussed....discussed and discussed. I am indifferent about the discussions nowadays.
Also I learned that people are very passionate about this particular fetish...that and pregnancy actually.
Just stop and try to reason and/or ask a mod if this is getting out of hand...like so often.

Thanks for the advice with the board though.....not to mention to feel very dumb right now ,)
 

TheDarkSky

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Wait....
Oh my fucking god....and here I thought I was already in Chapter 1.

I checked the Board and all and I could roam around so I thought I just need to find something to progress.
Never "clicked" on Chapter 1.......man man man

Edit:Just out of curiosity....what happens If I kill him? xD
I honestly have zero idea about what would happen, I don't even think the dev would have planned for someone to get there without starting Chapter 1 lol. But hey, at least you can now speedrun through the five chapters since you're already max level ahah
 

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While I have honestly no idea why a small minority of people could be experiencing that error, as a "fix" - if you're still having issues - download the "System.sav" I have attached to this reply, and put it into the "Save" folder. (if you don't have a Save folder, start playing the game and it should get created. Or just create it yourself ahahah)

It's basically an empty "System save" with only that one scene seen, which means the game will ask you whether to skip it when you get to it in the introduction. Since - as far as I'm aware - only that one scene is problematic, this should at least allow anyone to play the rest of the game. I hope this helps somewhat.
You know, it's strange. I tried again a bit later, pacing myself very slowly through the dialogue up until that point, and then I got past it. Haven't had any issues since. Finished the whole game at this point!
 
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I honestly have zero idea about what would happen, I don't even think the dev would have planned for someone to get there without starting Chapter 1 lol. But hey, at least you can now speedrun through the five chapters since you're already max level ahah
Unrelated and have already asked this earlier, but asking one more time. Is it possible for you to post 1.5.2 untranslated's download or no?
 
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