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With my previous girlfriend i have praticated swinging a lot of times… instead the actual is very jealous, so nothing!Especially if it's not your wife.
That been said multiple times - tastes differ.
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You had better arm yourself in patience, I don't think an update is coming anytime soon. What with a "revamp" happening, we may not get any new chapters for a while.
with so many characters and scenes this game is gonna be so complicated for a good revamp. You will need tons of variables for scenes/choices/hscenes.
Say for a swinging scene, the game probably need to check the relationship between all 4 ppl, and use different dialogs according to their relationships. Maybe dialogs hinting MC/Anne is covering sth when he/she had been cheating with couple. Then record whether MC started first, joined in later, or simply watched etc. It is possible that MC or Anne would later recall the scene so for proper memory scene to be displayed, every action needs to be recorded. Future dialogs with the couple might also vary according to action picked during the scene.
The logic behind each normal/sex scene need to be very clear and might requires the dev to check all the scenes between the involved characters to write the dialogs properly. Its alot more than just tracking how many times MC or Anne cheated. This sound like a terrible amount of work for part time developers.
Say for a swinging scene, the game probably need to check the relationship between all 4 ppl, and use different dialogs according to their relationships. Maybe dialogs hinting MC/Anne is covering sth when he/she had been cheating with couple. Then record whether MC started first, joined in later, or simply watched etc. It is possible that MC or Anne would later recall the scene so for proper memory scene to be displayed, every action needs to be recorded. Future dialogs with the couple might also vary according to action picked during the scene.
The logic behind each normal/sex scene need to be very clear and might requires the dev to check all the scenes between the involved characters to write the dialogs properly. Its alot more than just tracking how many times MC or Anne cheated. This sound like a terrible amount of work for part time developers.
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Tried this game, as I thought it was an actual swinging game, but came across some inconsistencies, not sure if bugs, or if they are supposed to play out that way...
Anne always cheats on the MC with Martin (the dad), even if you dont pick to send him in the shower scene, she still bangs him at the hotel and at the beach... Is that supposed to be that way, or did the dev forget to check a "trigger flag" ?
Anne cheats with Ryan the MC's best buddy, even though the MC is 100% ok with them banging, she still lies to his face when they do actually have sex, why ?? (this one is more story related and not what I would assume is a bug, unless she only cheats if the MC has banged Nicole or some other chick before ?)
Anne makes mention of having had sex with ugly bastards I never set her up with... After MC bangs Chloe, several days later her husband (Troy?) shows up and shows a hidden camera footage to Anne, and she responds saying "your ok with banging me all the time, but your wife cant bang my husband?"... What the hell is that ? the WT claims that you wont get Black dudes if you dont select them during the "porn scene"... I chose "swinging" not "cheating wife" and not "threesome"... also to the follow up question that asks about white dudes or black dudes, i chose white dudes, so why does Anne still claim she bangs Troy, Drake, Dre, etc ? when she didnt, she got pounded by Eric, and the white couple upstairs ?
Anne always cheats on the MC with Martin (the dad), even if you dont pick to send him in the shower scene, she still bangs him at the hotel and at the beach... Is that supposed to be that way, or did the dev forget to check a "trigger flag" ?
Anne cheats with Ryan the MC's best buddy, even though the MC is 100% ok with them banging, she still lies to his face when they do actually have sex, why ?? (this one is more story related and not what I would assume is a bug, unless she only cheats if the MC has banged Nicole or some other chick before ?)
Anne makes mention of having had sex with ugly bastards I never set her up with... After MC bangs Chloe, several days later her husband (Troy?) shows up and shows a hidden camera footage to Anne, and she responds saying "your ok with banging me all the time, but your wife cant bang my husband?"... What the hell is that ? the WT claims that you wont get Black dudes if you dont select them during the "porn scene"... I chose "swinging" not "cheating wife" and not "threesome"... also to the follow up question that asks about white dudes or black dudes, i chose white dudes, so why does Anne still claim she bangs Troy, Drake, Dre, etc ? when she didnt, she got pounded by Eric, and the white couple upstairs ?
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It's not. Swinging is just one path among several, but the narrative inconsistencies we've been discussing for the last zillion pages make it difficult to play a pure swinging route. Going through the game's various routes with more eye for detail, I think the best way to describe the game as it exists is "be careful what you wish for"...in that what the MC started, Anne's going to finish, her way. Content-wise, the game rewards cheating by both characters and depicts a relationship that's clearly devolving. I think that's intentional.
She doesn't, actually. Anne does nothing (or almost nothing) untoward with Martin if you advance the cheating variable enough before his arrival (choosing cheating porn, then trying to leave Anne with the swinging neighbors so you can go home alone). If you think that's counterintuitive, you're right; again, this is why the game needs some rethinking, which is what's happening right now.
She also does nothing with Martin if you don't tempt them to do otherwise.
The game ends before we're given an answer, but it's pretty easy to invent one based on the story thus far: unless you play the MC as a monk, he can have as much sex as he wants with other women (and "as much" is rather a lot) and he never, ever tells Anne about it. If she asks, he lies. On four separate occasions she makes her displeasure over this known, resulting in one half-assed apology, and yet he doesn't change his behavior. Frankly, he's done nothing to deserve her honesty, and lying about sex with his best friend seems like a particularly savage way to get back at him.
A better question is why Ryan lies to him, knowing that if his girlfriend finds out he's screwed with both the MC and her. Anne does ask him to, yes, so I guess the sex was really good.
She gave Troy her panties when they were at Troy & Chloe's for dinner, just because he demanded them. (Note that she didn't tell the MC about it until he noticed and asked.) Depending on which route you're on, there are three versions of the Drake scene. One is anal on the beach, post-Martin, and she keeps this secret for obvious reasons. The second is anal in the spa, about which she tells the MC later. The third is a no-anal threesome with Drake and Troy in the spa, and she keeps this secret. It would hardly be impossible to imagine that they've gotten together since then, since she's "missing" pretty much all day, every day, and only sometimes do we see what she's up to.
...which, as I and others have pointed out, doesn't make any sense since she's already had a bunch of sex with black men (and one woman, if I recall the vacation correctly; I might not), plus Dre if you stopped pursuing Eric. Also: the walkthrough is fan-made, not canon.
Again this is all part of what needs to be sorted out if the game is going to continue to have discrete paths. My recommendation was that Mircom3D do away with the "interracial" choice entirely for the reason I detailed above — and also because it closes off a lot of content — but if it's going to exist it needs to start a lot earlier.
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I'd never play it again if he did... If anything he should fix the flags, if you select no black dudes, it should just be that... no black dudes... (the trip to Dominican Republic doesnt count, as that was her initiation...
But in my game there was no dinner with Troy where she gave panties, she never met Dre, she never met Drake... I kept her from getting blacked in the Bar during the email activity, as I had the MC bang Mia, and had Anne follow them and watch and participate, so she didnt bang that black dude either... The only black dude she banged was a cheating thing with an ex-boyfriend from college or some shit.
Also as far as content, its fine, it has tons of sex scenes, tons with Anne banging other people, tons with MC banging other people, and tons of them doing it as a couple, even without the black scenes.
Also the WT should be clearer then... I had the MC cheat at every chance he got... multiple times with Nicole (which was a set-up) Anne payed him back with the Ryan thing... but then she bangs the dad for no reason, so I had the MC bang Anne's mom, payback's a bitch (and so was her mom during that romp !! HEY-OOOOO). Also what bothers me is that Anne says she is ok with him drilling other women, at least she did in my game, and that'd she'd be utter garbage if she denied him that while she gets to slut it up whenever she wants with permission... just asks that the MC be honest with her... The dev never gets the option for the MC to tell his wife "hey I want to bang Zarah and the other girl from the Diner, or the masseuses, or Chloe and eventually the other girls from work...
I mean the title is called "Adventurous Couple" not "Watch Anne Cucokold her Husband", so him getting laid without blow-back and without Anne acting like a bitch for it would be nice... Otherwise she is acting like the utter hypocritical bitch she said she didnt want to become.
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You do you.
You had sex on the beach with Martin and you didn't meet Drake right after? Huh. I've never seen that happen.
Actually, that last part isn't as true as you think. There's a fair bit of him watching her have sex, but in terms of activities in which both participate, there's Dre (optional, and Anne complains), Mike (optional), Mike/Holly (doubly optional) and the swingers next door (also optional), plus whatever you choose to do or not do if you go to the swingers' club. None of those scenes compel the MC's participation. Anne and the MC have way more extracurricular/all cheating (from the MC) and eventually mostly cheating (from Anne) sex than that.
The dev isn't responsible for the walkthrough, nor for what it claims.
Charming.
You have the order wrong. Ryan and Anne have sex for the first time with the MC's full knowledge well before she meets Martin. If you had the MC cheat at every opportunity, though, then you created a relationship in which the MC cheated without consequence and Anne mostly didn't. So, actually, Martin is well-deserved payback for the MC being a cheating asshole. And probably so are Troy, Ryan redux, Marcus (the ex boyfriend on the beach), and Dre v.3 (not yet produced, but it very much looks like the MC is going to be told to watch rather than participate, which was very clearly foretold by Dre v.1 and the Dre mall scenes...though I guess you didn't get those either).
You left out the key caveat: if he's honest about it. Is he? Never. Not once.
Exactly. You, the player, are never given that option. Which should suggest that the dev means for you to be able to choose whether to be an asshole or not. Which also means that if you are, you really don't deserve to hold Anne to any promises. The game could handle the consequences better, yes, and that's likely part of the revamp, or at least one hopes. But at this point, based on your playthrough, Anne should do whatever she wants and lie through her teeth about it.
Here's a thing you should try: go look at the directory where your Ren'py saves live. Look for the folder that holds your saves for this game. After you've looked for a while, hunt for the key word in your second title. Hey, look! Your saves for "The Adventurous Couple." Huh. Isn't that interesting...
Why shouldn't he get blowback?
That's three times in one message that you've called one of the female characters in the game a bitch, you know.
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I saw the name of the game in the other folder and it is indeed called "the cuckold" hence why I used that particular word... doesnt mean thats what he went with, so unless the dev wanted to lie about the content to sucker in people, it shouldnt matter what he originally wanted it to be called.
Seems like your just content with the MC watching, which is fine for you, but we dont all like that part, or at least not without the MC getting something in return.
As you said the game gets different experiences depending on how people play it... your shocked that in my game after sex on the beach with Martin, that Anne didnt meant a Drake person... Doesnt mean thats not how it went down in my game, she also never met any of the black dude including Troy at that weird party you mentioned where she gave him panties.
In my game I never saw Ryan again till the lying/cheating part... before that Anne only had the naked massage when Ryan got permission from the MC to leave the bar early. It was the 2nd or 3rd massage in a row, the one he gives right before he has to leave town, they never met in secret or otherwise in my game.
Also I love how you defend Anne in every circumstance when the whole story starts with the MC wanting to make her a slut for other people, and that should be ok, but not the MC getting some action himself...Basically your coming across as someone who only wants this game to get cuckold content.
Last thing as I am done arguing as its clear we like completely different aspects of the game... but the WT flat out tells you if you keep the MC honest/faithful, it becomes worse for him, as Anne still cheats and it triggers the full on "Cuck" route, as Anne cheats while being mean about it rather than as a revenge lay she has to keep secret... One clear example that I tried was with Martin... when you chose to either tell him to stop watching (he still goes in and fucks her), tell him to keep watching her (he goes in and fucks her) or telling him to "join her" (which then gives two options) Sit back and watch (which is nearly the same thing they had been doing since Dominican Republic, or Interfere/Stop them (which is disgusting as Anne tells MC that his actions have consequences and procceeds to humiliate him while fucking his dad, and telling him how much better he is). Its that last option that made me sick, so if thats what happens during the "faithful" route as the WT clearly states WILL, no thanks to that !!
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But it does matter in trying to figure out how the dev envisioned the game. Just because the MC wants his wife to be a hotwife and swing and fuck around indiscriminately doesn't mean that's what she wants, especially if he's disrespecting her at every turn. How did she feel about Kenny's spycams? That's a really, really early clue to how this is likely to go. Games and stories in which the narrator wants his wife to fuck around, she does, and it goes badly for him are as common — perhaps even more common — as those where it all turns out spiffy.
Okay. Look, I have a zillion-word posting history in the last few dozen pages of this thread. I think you will see that you couldn't be more wrong, if you'll kindly take the time to read them.
"Your" MC is indiscriminately banging his way through the known universe, lying about it, and expecting his wife to do what he says. What, exactly, does he deserve? She should leave his cheating, lying ass...but why not have some fun at his expense first?
You did see the first part. You just said you did. It wasn't just a massage.
"Slut." What word do you prefer for the MC?
Anne starts out telling (or showing) the MC every single thing she's doing. He responds (in certain playthroughs, like yours) by fucking around on her and hiding/lying about it. The MC's getting plenty of "action himself," the way you're playing the game. I don't in fact prefer a cheating and/or cuckold game, as my posting history in this thread would soundly demonstrate, but nonetheless if you repeatedly cheat on Anne, that's unquestionably the game you're going to get (even more so in a "fixed" version of the game in which choices lead to the correct routes), and frankly you deserve it. Martin stole your girlfriends, including Emma? Great! He's gonna do it again. Maybe don't cheat on her next time and he won't. Maybe don't throw him at her and then dare her to say no when you won't, and she won't. Anne's fucking Ryan and lying to you about it? Great! Maybe don't fuck your ex-girlfriend Emma, and as many of your coworkers as you can, and the ladies at the diner, and Anne's best friend, and...
I'm going to try this one more time. The walkthrough wasn't written by the dev. The walkthrough makes regularly incoherent assumptions about what actually happens in the game. Neither the dev nor the game are responsible for what the walkthrough suggests is happening. The walkthrough is an earnest attempt but a very poor guide to what's actually happening in the game.
The game has issues. Unquestionably so. But one of them isn't the walkthrough. You want a reliable walkthrough? Look at the game scripts. They'll tell you what variables are doing what. This is how, for example, we know that choosing a cheating route and acting like a cheater illogically prevents Anne from cheating with Martin. It's fixable problem, but it's right there in the script.
Why are you letting Martin into the bathroom in the first place? A smart MC, knowing that his dad's horse cock stole other girlfriends from him, wouldn't make such a stupid choice. If you don't let him in, nothing happens between Martin and Anne. You seem to have a blinkered view of the available options.
Also, in terms of humiliation, by that point a cheating MC has humiliated Anne more than a few times. You don't think her best friend told Anne about her and the MC? You remember what she thought about Kenny's surveillance? You don't think she suspects he's cheating on her?
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I'll try it your way then I guess, sorry but these games I don't play without a WT as humiliation and non-consent cuckolding disgusts me.
As someone who has played it extensively it seems you could have just told me " I can guarantee that she won't cheat on you in the non-cheating MC route". Instead of telling me to try it myself, as I said I rather not risk seeing that content...
Also I don't know how to look at game scripts or make sense of them and the variables, if I understood some of that I'd try making my own game, as the daz3d asserts don't seem expensive for someone like myself.
Lastly as I don't want to see black guys banging her aside from the mandatory ones in DR, and possibly the nice plumber guy, she won't bang the ex-boyfriend at the beach in a faithful path right ? Cause that too was cheating...and won't a faithful path and non-black path be very bare bones with not many scenes ?
As someone who has played it extensively it seems you could have just told me " I can guarantee that she won't cheat on you in the non-cheating MC route". Instead of telling me to try it myself, as I said I rather not risk seeing that content...
Also I don't know how to look at game scripts or make sense of them and the variables, if I understood some of that I'd try making my own game, as the daz3d asserts don't seem expensive for someone like myself.
Lastly as I don't want to see black guys banging her aside from the mandatory ones in DR, and possibly the nice plumber guy, she won't bang the ex-boyfriend at the beach in a faithful path right ? Cause that too was cheating...and won't a faithful path and non-black path be very bare bones with not many scenes ?
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I can't tell you that, because she will. That's part of the issue regarding how the game is coded. Even if you do everything "right" — choose to swing or have a hotwife/open relationship, don't cheat on Anne — she will still, by the end of the most recent update, have sex with people and not tell you about it. The dev was quite clear that he left pretty much all the scenes in the most recent update "open" because he's rethinking everything that led to it and couldn't sensibly code it based on what had come before. The game needs a top-to-bottom rework, and that's what's supposed to be happening now.
That said, if someone plays the game the way you described that you did, Anne should most definitely cheat on the MC. That would be the only logical and fair response to the MC cheating on her and lying about it.
You don't need to be a programmer, really. It's all pretty black and white. Well, in deference to your preferences, it's all pretty white. You can see the variables as they're modified and tested by certain choices. You can see how scenes jump to different scenes under certain conditions. As programming goes, it's very easy to read.
I'm not sure I see your distinction, but as I said: you do you.
At the moment she will indeed have sex with Marcus (and have the orgy if you choose). She'll also do anal with the doctor, and let the boys ejaculate on her, and have the toy afternoon, and repeatedly lie about sex with Ryan. These are well-known problems with the routing, but that's why the game needs a revamp. That said, if the MC is cheating on Anne and lying to her about it, especially in an alleged open relationship game in which she's supposed to be reporting everything back, she should do all those things just to spite him. In a logical game with consequences, those would be the most natural and obvious consequences. Until she kicks his lying and manipulative ass to the curb, that is.
I wrote an epic-length post a while back detailing one way to fix the game and build true hotwife/open relationship/swinging/cheating/cuckold routes without adding more renders, which is the only way it's ever going to happen. It's far from the only way, and very far from the simplest way, but it's a way. Mircom3D will come up with his preferred way.
You can't really hold the dev responsible if you wish to play a game he didn't write.
Aside from the coding/routing issues, this is a point I keep trying to make: the game as written (and, I believe, as conceived) rewards — via sexual content — playing it in such a way that the MC cheats and lies, Anne gets fed up with his bullshit and cheats and lies herself, Anne doesn't have any racial hangups, and everything escalates to a very clearly oncoming disaster in the end. Even if that's not the actual end...even if there's a moment where the MC confesses and Anne confesses and they agree that this was all a terrible idea...it's the path that the gameplay and the content reward. I don't think that's an accident. Pointing to the non-canonical walkthrough and the title don't make any of that untrue.
I, too, would like an open relationship/swinging game, since there are almost none. It was my hope that TAC would be that game, and my recognition that it wasn't but that all the elements of such a game existed that got me engaged in this thread. But I've never lost sight of the fact that the dev will write the game he wants to write, and if that's a Pandora's Box analogy, then that's what it is.
I have a felling that @Mircom3D opened pandora box when he tells he is welcome to feedback and ideas. Since that, this became discussion thread full of opinions how the game should work and what content should be optional etc.
To be honest, I just want dev to do what he enjoys, just make it easier a more clean to get all the content in game, that is what 99% percent players want. Last thing i want is another GGGB when you need to have 4895294 gameplay saves to get all scenes and it takes eternity to dev to progress in story because of so many variables and routes, just because someone cant stand black dudes, someone dont like cheating, someone dont like old mans, someone want futanari in their route and more.
Mircom is doing great job with his own ideas, that is reason why there is such fanbase, so leave content to him and dont push him to do something he will not enjoy and will hold game back in terms of development progress.
Also, would to great to hear from him.
To be honest, I just want dev to do what he enjoys, just make it easier a more clean to get all the content in game, that is what 99% percent players want. Last thing i want is another GGGB when you need to have 4895294 gameplay saves to get all scenes and it takes eternity to dev to progress in story because of so many variables and routes, just because someone cant stand black dudes, someone dont like cheating, someone dont like old mans, someone want futanari in their route and more.
Mircom is doing great job with his own ideas, that is reason why there is such fanbase, so leave content to him and dont push him to do something he will not enjoy and will hold game back in terms of development progress.
Also, would to great to hear from him.
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He's been heard from. Few (certainly not me) are insisting our ideas should turn into his game. My interest isn't in a different game, it's in fixing the game he's written. I strongly believe that's his desire as well.
The game is fine as is. The game would be much better if choices led to logical outcomes. I think everyone agrees on those two points. Everything else is just detail.
The game is fine as is. The game would be much better if choices led to logical outcomes. I think everyone agrees on those two points. Everything else is just detail.
It's like a continuous grondhog day in this thread, people saying the same stuff over and over.
It clearly states in the tags that this game includes cheating, ntr, swinging and voyeurism, amongst others.
Plus, the title is a fair old clue as to the general, overall premise of the game.
Then you get members coming up on here whining about feeling 'degraded', 'humiliated' and 'disgusted' at the content.
WTF?!
Go figure, if you can, because I can't.
If you feel any of the above then maybe go play something else and stop trying to turn this into something you do like.
Cheers.
It clearly states in the tags that this game includes cheating, ntr, swinging and voyeurism, amongst others.
Plus, the title is a fair old clue as to the general, overall premise of the game.
Then you get members coming up on here whining about feeling 'degraded', 'humiliated' and 'disgusted' at the content.
WTF?!
Go figure, if you can, because I can't.
If you feel any of the above then maybe go play something else and stop trying to turn this into something you do like.
Cheers.
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This is the part i hated the most. is when playing the fully faithfull path and anne cheats it is like the game still acts like the mc is the one who cheated first. their should be consquence when mc cheats first but also the other way around when mc finds out anne cheats first.. and she should shut up when when mc finds out about her cheating habbit and accept the mc gets pussy now other then hers..
I really hope the new revamp will address these issues, because it really kills all faithfull path and just remove that path and keep the cheating path intact.
Why?
It's not uncommon for someone to expect others to live up to standards that they aren't doing or wouldn't do themselves, and for that someone to get upset when the others don't do so.
eg. Leaders that state their followers should live a particular way, when the leader doesn't do so.