Segnbora

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What you're asking is one of the great unsolved mysteries of the game. I have a vague memory of Mircom3D suggesting that certain events do happen whether or not we see them, but barring a definitive answer I think we're mostly left with speculation. Still, she's almost never home during the day. She's doing something...

My own preference would be that events happen whether or not the player sees them when they, 1) fulfill the numerical criteria (e.g. Anne is very likely to cheat), and 2) make sense on that path (e.g. they have an open relationship, so why not?). If that's the case, my coequal preference would be that the events would have variable-modifying consequences, even if we don't see them.

For example (this is an old enough event that I'm not going to spoil-protect it): if we're on a swinging route, Anne and Mike don't fool around in the beach bathroom and this decreases Anne's propensity to cheat; even though she and Mike already had sex, it's not the same if the MC isn't involved or aware. If we're in an open relationship, they do, Anne tells the MC about it, and it increases whatever variable monitors Anne's willingness to have sex with random NPCs she knows the MC would be okay with. If we're on a cheating route, they do and Anne doesn't tell the MC about it (or lies about it), which increases the variable that monitors her willingness to cheat. And so on...

As a general observation, what gets really tricky in multi-route games like this one is completely excising events or characters from the narrative. For example, a game in which Martin kept his hands to himself on his first visit leaves any future appearance from Martin either hobbled or necessarily bifurcated; there has to be a "didn't have sex with Anne" Martin and a "had sex with Anne behind the MC's back" Martin. The game has, thus far, successfully navigated that and most other significant deviations with only minor slip-ups, but it makes things a lot harder to code.

This is why I think that, in this particular game where sex with others is the core intent, it's easier to assume that nearly everything happens and then build routes around how and why they happen. Obviously, Martin is a deformative enough event that he kinda has to exist in two versions, but most others aren't.

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That said, and please bear in mind these are only my guesses, not Mircom3D's actual answers:

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@joker8 I think it has been said, by the creator himself, that all scenes in the game folders happen in the game, whether the MC sees it or not. I could be remembering this incorrectly, but I hate this idea. If you go through the scenes in the game and try to string them together it just breaks all logic. Besides, if this includes scenes with the MC and other girls which certain players may have avoided choosing, like myself on most of my playthroughs, it means the MC is delusional.

There are NTR/cheating games where the player gets to unlock more of those scenes after the game is over as extras, and I'm fine with some scenes being like that if the character is on a cheating/cuckold path but not all. Martin is a perfect example - that should have a hard player choice cutting it off, while with either Dre or Mike (for example), depending on player choices some stuff could go on behind the scenes and then be revealed later and I wouldn't mind.
 
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Segnbora

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I can easily write a Martin/Anne sequence in which she has sex with him on every route, all the post-shower scenes happen, and it's all "fine" in one sense or another as long as the shower scene itself can be blocked by the MC. (Even though you're right: she should not be having sex with his father.) Nothing but the shower scene can't be written out of a non-cheating/cuckold/dishonesty route. In fact I wrote it and then deleted it from my previous post. I could rewrite it here, but honestly I don't think it's that difficult to imagine.

The NTR issue is a whole different can of worms, but I'll repeat that TAC has shown very little interest in actual NTR. Cheating, yes. But very little NTR. That said, the most recent update ends with a giant blast of NTR...

I admit to being intrigued by an Anne who reveals her adventures slowly and teasingly...that her bathroom dalliance with Mike comes out at the swinging party, or that what Anne actually did with Dre comes out when they have their upcoming weekend...but it's a delicate writing challenge. In terms of a revamp, it would have to come out on an honesty/semi-honesty route, and it would have to be handled with great skill or it would seem like dishonesty.
 

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I was wondering on anne cheating site how does the mc usually react and also the other way around when anne discover mc cheating on her. i was trying to play open route but still failed. is this part even possible that with open relationship both will just fuck everyone and they wont have justify to their better half ?? why is the part where the mc does always cheating and anne is not cheating this is the part that elutes me..
 

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@ Dependable - Yes, this is one of the issues with the writing of the game

@ Segnbora - Wait, is a scene with Mike in the beach bathroom actually in the game? I don't remember that. I thought the MC sat and talked with Mike's SO the whole time...
 

shanarc

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@ Dependable - Yes, this is one of the issues with the writing of the game

@ Segnbora - Wait, is a scene with Mike in the beach bathroom actually in the game? I don't remember that. I thought the MC sat and talked with Mike's SO the whole time...
Doesn't look like it. I checked the chapter 10 rpy file and didn't find either Anne or Mike saying anything about beach bathroom but could be that I missed something.
 

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I'm confused, then. Is your headcanon that something happened? Is it implied in the text that it did? If what you were trying to say it should have happened on certain paths, I agree. Just makes more sense. I mean, why have them go to the bathroom together if nothing happens no matter which path is taken? Just another example of why this thing is so damn frustrating.

The writer may have been looking for a way to get Mike and Anne out of the way so the MC and Mike's girl can talk, but it would be better if they went to go play in the surf or something, so the player sees Anne "onscreen" and isn't distracted by what she might be doing and focus on the other girl and what she has to say. Just, again... so much potential, this game
 

Segnbora

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I'm confused, then. Is your headcanon that something happened? Is it implied in the text that it did? If what you were trying to say it should have happened on certain paths, I agree. Just makes more sense. I mean, why have them go to the bathroom together if nothing happens no matter which path is taken? Just another example of why this thing is so damn frustrating.
The text is very clear that it didn't happen, but on the other hand we now know that Anne isn't necessarily truthful in all cases. Still, I think the in-game canon is probably that she and Mike didn't do anything.

My personal belief is that it should have happened, yes, and that a not-all-that-coincidental mutual trip to the bathroom between two people in (at least) swinging/open relationships that doesn't involve fooling around breaks every single Rule of Porn. By that point the MC has repeatedly given Anne blanket permission to have sex with others, she's already had sex with Mike, and they both know that it causes no problems in Mike's relationship because he and Holly are swingers (who apparently also cheat on each other, or at least Holly cheats on Mike). So why wouldn't they? I was utterly confused by Anne's later but quite firm insistence that nothing happened...because of course it did, right?

So in a revamp, my notion is that it either happens on all routes or happens on all routes except a swinging/not open relationship path, if that even exists. The difference is how it's presented and how it affects the variables. On open/honest-style routes, Anne confesses to the MC and variables that positively affect the type of relationship they're pursuing increase. On a cheating/dishonest route, Anne lies to the MC and variables that negatively affect their relationship increase. It's a hidden bonus or a hidden penalty, with no need to actually render the scene. It also gives more "color" to the type of relationship they're having; on some routes, it shows how relaxed Anne and the MC are about their activities. On the other, it shows that Anne's resentment and attempts to wrest control of her sex life away from the MC's fetishes started even earlier than the game currently suggests. (Dre could also be a part of that.)
 

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The text is very clear that it didn't happen, but on the other hand we now know that Anne isn't necessarily truthful in all cases. Still, I think the in-game canon is probably that she and Mike didn't do anything.

My personal belief is that it should have happened, yes, and that a not-all-that-coincidental mutual trip to the bathroom between two people in (at least) swinging/open relationships that doesn't involve fooling around breaks every single Rule of Porn. By that point the MC has repeatedly given Anne blanket permission to have sex with others, she's already had sex with Mike, and they both know that it causes no problems in Mike's relationship because he and Holly are swingers (who apparently also cheat on each other, or at least Holly cheats on Mike). So why wouldn't they? I was utterly confused by Anne's later but quite firm insistence that nothing happened...because of course it did, right?
I disagree with you on the fact that it should have happened. It makes the character of Anne more realist and makes me have more empathy with her that she is not just a hungry vagina.

She is on the beach with her husband, having a relaxing afternoon and a peaceful time, Mike and his wife run into them by chance, Anne has to empty her bladder. Period. Mike may have wanted to fool around but hey, the girl wasn't in the mood.

I may be wrong but it seems that each sexual encounter Anne has needs an escalation. If she goes to meet someone for a fuck it can happen quickly, but if she runs into somebody or isn't on the spot with a sex intention, it takes time, talking, teasing or arousing to get to the action... or less time if she is pushed by MC to do it.
 

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I disagree with you on the fact that it should have happened. It make the character of Anne more realist and make me have more empathy with her that she is not just a hungry vagina.

She is on the beach with her husband, having a relaxing afternoon and a peaceful time, Mike and his wife run into them by chance, Anne has to empty her bladder. Period. Mike may have wanted to fool around but hey, the girl wasn't in the mood.

I may be wrong but it seems that each sexual encounter Anne has needs an escalation. If she goes to meet someone for a fuck it can happen quickly, but if she runs into somebody or isn't on the spot with a sex intention, it takes time, talking, teasing or arousing to get to the action... or less time if she is pushed by MC to do it.
Totally agree!!!!. If she fucks everyone, everytime whithout any "preparation" it's not a NTR (netorare in my opinion need some suffering, despair, humiliation and acceptance, and there is no such a thing in this game) or Swing. She is becoming something like a street hooker, which does not charge anything (or a cock hungry vagina).
Because of this I repeat, the small details in his/ her life counts to turn people on! Like a good scene when she shaves her pussy, aplply make up or buy a butt plug and insert in, to (present herself) to give in to the lover. Small things thats trully turn things more spicy....
 
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I've read there's a scene where Troy shows Anne a video of the MC fucking Chloe but I can't get more than the kiss in the MC's office when she tries the uniform with chloe, little help?
 

Claudio83

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So it's passed 1 month from last update… any news from the supposed revamp? i have seen a revamp releases poll… what says?
 

kakaok2o

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Why would i share my wife when i can just fuck her. I don't get it or that swinging i mean just get the two of them is that what men don't do or maybe only i am here the alpha
 
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