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Alright I have played through this last chapter around 10 times as I am a big fan.

1. I love the toy party scene.
2. I also love the Dre scene while she jerks him off.
3. The plumber scene was not my fav not sure why someone had to make him look like Fat Albert.
4. The docter scene should have had an option to have sex with the doctor.

I am very dissapointed. The previous chapters built up the possibility of MC cleaning up Ann e.g kissing after swinger, oral after beach with Drake, and the spa scene with Drake at the end of ch9.
I cannot locate anytime where this actually happens? If anyone finds it please let me know.
I think it could have been easily place in this chapter eg. Old neighbor who cums in her or swinger party.

Also please note: I played a game where I saw the beach scene with Drake, the 3way spa scene with Drake and Troy, and then at the end of chapter it showed the spa scene anal with Drake asking MC to clean up. I didnt know that was possible.
 

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Man, finally got around to playing chapter 10! You know that scene with Josie? I compare it to when a buddy brings you some McDonalds: You're a little grossed out at first, but then you just dig right on in and still kind of love it.
Man, the scenes with my girl Fernanda, Emma and the Beach Scene were on point. Good job, Mircom. I only missed the coffee shop scene.
 

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They speak about doing more swing parties. I hope they swing with strangers next time. Maybe even separate and do their own thing and not see each other until the end of the party.
 
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For what it's worth, I went back and played from the very beginning with the preconception that it's a game about Anne taking the proffered ball and running with it...running far, far away from the MC. That the MC's a voyeur who could either be dimissive, oblivious, or a cuckold, but who can also get laid a bunch on his own and will never, ever be honest with his wife about it. That Anne is going to enter into meaningful extramarital relationships well beyond the casual sex they mutually agree upon, but that she's going to keep doing that too. That there are already (potentially) at least four characters that Anne is keeping entirely separate from the MC, and for whom she has feelings that she won't share with the MC; this aside from the people she just shags and doesn't tell him about. That she derives additional pleasure from dictating the terms of the couple's sexuality. That she decides very early on in this exploration that sex on her terms, especially with others, is more desirable than mere sex with her husband or sexual exploration with her husband.

Anne's words and behavior, virtually from the start, overwhelmingly support that preconception. I never realized until now just how clear it is. I suppose I was somewhat blinded by the regularly suboptimal spelling, punctuation, and grammar (sorry Mircom3D) into thinking that the writing was similarly haphazard, but it's really not. (Or if it is, it's consistent in its suggestion of a rather obvious narrative.) Frankly, the writing is — assuming I'm right — much more on-point than I ever actually acknowledged.

If the game could clear up its various paths and make the choices and outcomes logical, realign the variables so that they're meaningful, fix some of the earlier, somewhat tragic animations (or just eliminate them; later animations are so much better), and get a solid editing pass to clean up the words, it could be an epic. It won't be the epic I hoped for, at all, but there still wouldn't really be anything like it.
 

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We know Phil photographed Anne fucking Donny. Would be great if someone else filmed her having sex with others, and MC discovering it online.
 
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Alright I have played through this last chapter around 10 times as I am a big fan.

1. I love the toy party scene.
2. I also love the Dre scene while she jerks him off.
3. The plumber scene was not my fav not sure why someone had to make him look like Fat Albert.
4. The docter scene should have had an option to have sex with the doctor.

I am very dissapointed. The previous chapters built up the possibility of MC cleaning up Ann e.g kissing after swinger, oral after beach with Drake, and the spa scene with Drake at the end of ch9.
I cannot locate anytime where this actually happens? If anyone finds it please let me know.
I think it could have been easily place in this chapter eg. Old neighbor who cums in her or swinger party.

Also please note: I played a game where I saw the beach scene with Drake, the 3way spa scene with Drake and Troy, and then at the end of chapter it showed the spa scene anal with Drake asking MC to clean up. I didnt know that was possible.
Yeah, wtf with the doctor? she is mad when MC fucks chicks behind her back but she fucks other dudes and dont tell him ...
 

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How to knock up Cayley or Britanny ? I made it once but I started from the beginning so I forgot how to get there.
while in ch.6 go to the beach, help brit with the lotion, go to the beach with brit a second time, stay and listen to her, have sex with her. then the scene in ch.10 should play automatically
 

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played from the very beginning with the preconception that it's a game about Anne taking the proffered ball and running with it...running far, far away from the MC
I ve done the same hh...

I never realized until now just how clear it is. I suppose I was somewhat blinded by the regularly suboptimal spelling, punctuation, and grammar (sorry Mircom3D) into thinking that the writing was similarly haphazard, but it's really not. (Or if it is, it's consistent in its suggestion of a rather obvious narrative.) Frankly, the writing is — assuming I'm right — much more on-point than I ever actually acknowledged.
Exactly, but there is a problem with it. My problem a bit, but all in all we might share a boot here with two different aim to reach. My two cents according to this, that at a time, Microm (might have personal experience, opinion on this regard) personally could not see any other way, how a relationship like this would end. Problematic, he/she is a "deus ex" here therefore... might not able to make a clearer picture. Than he was clearly overcame this prejudice. A would be more happy to doing so.

The problem is that MC and Anne are on the same page with themselves, they are everything but not not insecure. It can be a subtle death sentence to the marriage, and to any marriage in general, but it can be a simple fixation also, that makes them stronger, and this my personal experience.
If we do start the story however, on the fundamentals that: MC is a scumbag, Anne is a Slut and they do deserve each other, thats ok... BUT
A,) i dont think that sexual fantasy of sharing would make him a malignant, nefarious creature so there is no "le verdict initiale" in my book, but thats just me of course.
B.) than i ve to say that this is exactly that "préjugé de diamant" ... a prejudice that is a bit bitter novel, than a narrative. Simply.
In this case, i will read Justin/Juliette from De Sade, and got frustrated and mad by it rather. = )
(That's why i do suggested earlier that we should encounter with something they have to fight for, together, or face something serious, to relativize this whole process of "just getting off, in a technocrat society", in my book it would be an interesting experience.)

That Anne is going to enter into meaningful extramarital relationships well beyond the casual sex they mutually agree upon, but that she's going to keep doing that too
Thru ways like this, extramarital sex, and all of its "éclat émotionnel" can deplete quite easily on the other hand, when we have to face with the personalities exactly and traits those are forming them for example. See... Dre is not the most intelligent guy i ve ever seen, Martin simply just fucks the world, Ryan is a scumbag and thats it, etc... and Anne Married to MC for some reason. That reason is not implemented yet. (No mistaken, there s or there is not an author suggested route, routes those are inevitables, but these are not written in stone in real life either. That's why i keep telling that Microm's initial intentions those are traceable around the game, in coding and in laziness sometimes, well these are no existent nowadays, not as they were.)

Also, it is one route to me, disturbing and hot, of course, but i would rather not live by it. Simply.

If the game could clear up its various paths and make the choices and outcomes logical, realign the variables so that they're meaningful, fix some of the earlier, somewhat tragic animations (or just eliminate them; later animations are so much better), and get a solid editing pass to clean up the words, it could be an epic. It won't be the epic I hoped for, at all, but there still wouldn't really be anything like it.
That's why i do suggest variables. If you make a choice based game, in a crisis, let us manage MC towards chaos and die in his scumbagness if we see that fit, or having him realize what is on stake, if we see that one fit. Both MC and Anne. With all the previously written problems, and your suggestively right perception.

I'm not saying, that there were not basic concept, that is not, somewhat moraly a "La bonne façon", i do simply saying that as a player intend to witness MY way in THEIR shoes in Microm's narrative (Not his/her story in my narrative, thats somewhat not the reason of choice, basically, but again, i think Microm exactly realized this when announced the revamp (that the routes are routes, more likely crossroads, not sideways leading all into one direction. Life not like that either. If we are not speaking about death, but that is another genre)). And well, i know also, that easy to say that.

Not to mention that your observation is unilateral. It is a cheat route. From the two i mentioned.

Dont misunderstand me. I KNOW exactly that if you make a choice free, tasteless routes of morals we wont see any epicness ever in a concept like that, more likely we just heading towards somewhat emotionally taciturn, grey closure. And i do assume, that this troubles Microm hard enough as well. That's why he/she needs this/a framed structure. A possibly untold plot at the beginning, what can be, must be unfolded thru the end. That is what we call catharsis. Epicness. And according the subtle implementation of this, Microm done a fantastic job, yet its too shaky to express at its fullest. But this experience must have different outcomes according to the story we manage. So, i know, i know right. Its a helluva job to a revamp, hard to articulate, but honestly not that much. If he/she starts to, can love his/her own creatures (vs my fav. yet narcissistic author Alberto Moravia)...
Reasonably i do repeat myself here: Take your time Microm.
 

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Parce que je parle un peu de français it's fun to read your posts and try to "hear" them in the original language, which helps with my comprehension.

One other thing the beginning-to-end replay did was highlight all the times the game could have been stat-building, but wasn't. Few variables ever get above 2; I can't even remember any (important) ones that get above 4. Glancing at the scripts one can see that many variables are arbitrarily reset at the beginning of chapters, and that in the later chapters — the ones with more path-exclusive scenes, where the numbers actually matter — there are variables that appear and disappear, which of course indicate a dev who doesn't quite have a firm handle on what they want the game mechanics to do. There's great confidence in the scenes themselves, and it shows, but not in the paths.

For example, where did the anne variable go, and what did it mean? Love for the MC? Confidence in the MC? Confidence in herself? Sexual independence? I couldn't figure it out, and anyway it didn't matter because the variable disappeared in the next chapter. Why is there a cuck variable in one chapter but a cuckquean variable in another, and why don't they have any effect outside those chapters? I was eyeing the scripts trying to answer a user's question about how to get on the cuckolding route, and I realized I have no idea; to me, the cuckolding route based on game mechanics should be the one that raises both of those latter stats, but a cuckold playthrough for someone who actually has that fetish seems like it has to be sorta assembled out of a hodgepodge of choices, and those choices don't really track with the variables. Since I don't share the fetish, I'd have to do another top-to-bottom replay to see if my theory holds up, but (sorry) I'm not going to as I don't really like cuckolding; as with most of the major choices, though, it's clear that so much relies on the cheatanne variable, which itself is entirely reliant on the porn choice, the encounter with the swinger neighbors, and the choices you make w/r/t Martin.

I want to stress that all the analysis and criticism I'm issuing only exists because I really, really like the game. I haven't typed a word in the Perv & the Potato Head...sorry, I meant ...thread because while it's a "perfect" and polished game from a mechanical standpoint, I don't have any devotion to it at all (save that since I've already invested so much frustrating damned gameplay that I'm going to stick it out just to see Potato Head repeatedly sodomized, because frankly she needs it). I feel like this game is a product of passion and (now that I've rethought it from the beginning) one with a clear goal, but that ideas for "scenes I'd like to see" have outpaced the foundational narrative and game mechanics. If it ends in (mechanical) chaos it will still be an enjoyable game, and maybe the dev's best choice would be to wrap this one up after a few more chapters of orgiastic chaos and move on to a better-planned game. But there's just so much potential here, and it doesn't even require more than token re-rendering (save for the early animations; at the least, Anne's occasional head-epilepsy could be addressed); most of the problems could be fixed at the back-end and by dialogue insertions over already extant images.
 

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Je parle un peu de francais aussi :).

I appreciate all feedback, here or on Patreon or discord! So I thank everyone who has taken the time to do so!

The revamp will set up the paths accordingly and will be a lot more clear to get there.

The variables will be reworked and will have purpose.

As most of you know, this is my first project and yes, I had a vision but that vision has grown along with the game and as was mentioned it has gotten away from me and the original vision.
This revamp will put me back in the drivers seat.

Please keep the feedback coming! I love hearing from everyone!
 

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I love this game just like everybody else otherwise we wouldn't post here.. but the bottom line all that is needed to make this game great are make our choices matter and don't give us an option that in the end leads us to a path we were trying to avoid and end there anyway, otherwise take all the other stuff out as it is pointless.. if I tell her no I don't want to talk about how she did it anyway the next morning (ie: Dre, Ryan).. It's really the only thing broken in this game cause it all just leads to cheating anyways just change the name to The Adventurous Cheating Couple then people will at least know what to expect.
 

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if I tell her no I don't want to talk about how she did it anyway the next morning (ie: Dre, Ryan)
I'd amend that to say that "telling her no" (a phraseology I don't love, but that's a longer discussion) should matter if I've given her a reason to respect my opinion, but if I haven't — because, for example, I've been having my own fun behind her back — she should probably go ahead and do what she wants.
 

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I'd amend that to say that "telling her no" (a phraseology I don't love, but that's a longer discussion) should matter if I've given her a reason to respect my opinion, but if I haven't — because, for example, I've been having my own fun behind her back — she should probably go ahead and do what she wants.
ok phrasing was wrong there, I was referring to the choice in the game if you choose no but the game say's yes anyway.. some choices are just unavoidable no matter the path.
 

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Man Oh man. So much passion in everyone's post defending or projecting their own vision of the game. Shows how much we all love TAC and Anne's character. I think Mircom could convert the 'week' into 'month'. Maybe it will reduce the slut-whore perception of Anne. Fucking 7 days a month as opposed to 7 days a week might be more plausible for a hotwife who likes them BIG. It will also give time to build up the sex for her, my main gripe with Ch10, my other being that too many new characters are being added all the time which leaves little depth to those we already know. Apart from the cheating and swinging we need corruption and seduction. Someone who takes advantage of FMC and MC will ride in eventually like a knight in shining armour and someone who genuinely wants a romantic relationship with FMC where she has to eventually choose to follow her heart. But it's been a blast reading the comments in the last 5 pages. Carry on.
 

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There are already four characters that Anne could easily leave the MC for (or at least decide to make them a permanent side-piece whether or not the MC approves or even knows about them): Martin, Dre, Ryan, and Malcom. Those are the four with whom she 1) has a sexual relationship that she's 2) in some sense kept hidden from the MC, and 3) with whom she's clearly been romantic rather than just sexual.
 

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I want to stress that all the analysis and criticism I'm issuing only exists because I really, really like the game. I haven't typed a word in the Perv & the Potato Head...sorry, I meant ...thread because while it's a "perfect" and polished game from a mechanical standpoint, I don't have any devotion to it at all (save that since I've already invested so much frustrating damned gameplay that I'm going to stick it out just to see Potato Head repeatedly sodomized, because frankly she needs it).
Can't say better.
Even i don't wish to manage a Dev. Cult. here, i have to say that life based experiences has a Jungian reference set to people to think similarly about issues like this. I mean, DMD is professive in one hand, written and most importantly narrated as an autistic pokemon seeks perv memories before dying. Most of the time i am not fond of categoric expressions, like this i just baubled here, but these kind of setups seems to me so so so so unreal. And therefore - in MY eyes - it can destabilize the whole story in ppl's head, thinking under the assumption that we share, at least a general "compréhension primale". So you deserve a cookie my friend here = ).

I'd amend that to say that "telling her no" (a phraseology I don't love, but that's a longer discussion) should matter if I've given her a reason to respect my opinion, but if I haven't — because, for example, I've been having my own fun behind her back — she should probably go ahead and do what she wants.
Agreed. And as i see Microm calming already, secretly in his/her chair.

For example, where did the anne variable go, and what did it mean? Love for the MC? Confidence in the MC? Confidence in herself? Sexual independence? I couldn't figure it out, and anyway it didn't matter because the variable disappeared in the next chapter. Why is there a cuck variable in one chapter but a cuckquean variable in another, and why don't they have any effect outside those chapters? I was eyeing the scripts trying to answer a user's question about how to get on the cuckolding route, and I realized I have no idea; to me, the cuckolding route based on game mechanics should be the one that raises both of those latter stats, but a cuckold playthrough for someone who actually has that fetish seems like it has to be sorta assembled out of a hodgepodge of choices, and those choices don't really track with the variables.
Cracked my head for a while too. My humble tought tho:
A.) that they were irrelevant or not present in the given chapter, and because the coding sollution made it possible, so Microm just left them out, bypassed them, based on uncessity.
B.) And maybe because his story as was mentioned by him, gotten away by ppl's vote, not just essentially grown along by its nature simply.
C.) Both (?)

As most of you know, this is my first project and yes, I had a vision but that vision has grown along with the game and as was mentioned it has gotten away from me and the original vision.
This revamp will put me back in the drivers seat.
That's that.
I do try to avoid any kind of paternal-like uptone, but it will sound like one, anyway... When the vision is growing along with the game or basically with any story, is just plainly positive, and natural, and that's the outcome of creating basically any story, a kinda well known artistic "source de vie" to any narrative line of work. Saying you start to communicate with yourself, with the story its subject, its matters... When gotten away... IKR = ).
 
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