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Deadlyreaper

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why can not it be the other way around? the woman says to mc that she would like to see that he has many other women? several at the same time ??? and all that is here too? and she organizes the other women come and helps him find some ??? then do it yourself or look at ????
why not that ???
 

kiteares

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LOL.
I have read some people complaining about the MC losing control... and I think that you don't get what cuckolding is about.
As one that commented about control, as a kink, no I don't get cuckolding. Maybe my limit is at present, observing but non-participant observing.
Maybe it's just the way my mind works, but the control for me is about keeping the person I love safe and being able to support her reaching her limits but not going beyond unless she wants. Again maybe it is my misunderstanding of the kink and possibly why my limit is where it is.

Once you open Pandora's box, there is no going back.
This result could be different if she was into this, but she was cajoled by the husband.
She just understands the being naughty is fine... that there are no consequences.
So the ilussion of control sooner or later was gonna get broken. Because SHE holds the reins, not him.
She can do whatever the fuck she wants... and he's gonna take it.
Why? Because it excites him... that shame, jealousy... that's what gets him hard.
We don't know if the MC has some limits, or when he's gonna say "enough is enough".
But when you play with fire, you can't cry and whine when you get burned.
Based on your next comment, upto Chapter 2 I see it differently, but then, for me, there is a whole ream of assumed conversations about do's and don'ts, slow build up, hard and soft limits, etc. Possibly before even chapter 1, given the intro.

I have yet to play the update... but I'm looking forward to it.
Events move very fast and as Redlight mentioned it's less about the couple and pretty much all about her. All of which supports your comments above.
I've said elsewhere NTR is new to me and cuckolding I understood as the old fashioned meaning and not as a defined kink.
Based on chapter 3 maybe the game should be renamed to "The Cuckoo."
 

Viatovic

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why can not it be the other way around? the woman says to mc that she would like to see that he has many other women? several at the same time ??? and all that is here too? and she organizes the other women come and helps him find some ??? then do it yourself or look at ????
why not that ???
I would say that women are not wired that way...
We, the men, get off A LOT MORE with control and domination. It's pretty much a male feature.

This doesn't mean that women can't be dominant or submissive... just that they are different.

As one that commented about control, as a kink, no I don't get cuckolding. Maybe my limit is at present, observing but non-participant observing.
Maybe it's just the way my mind works, but the control for me is about keeping the person I love safe and being able to support her reaching her limits but not going beyond unless she wants. Again maybe it is my misunderstanding of the kink and possibly why my limit is where it is.

Based on your next comment, upto Chapter 2 I see it differently, but then, for me, there is a whole ream of assumed conversations about do's and don'ts, slow build up, hard and soft limits, etc. Possibly before even chapter 1, given the intro.

Events move very fast and as Redlight mentioned it's less about the couple and pretty much all about her. All of which supports your comments above.
I've said elsewhere NTR is new to me and cuckolding I understood as the old fashioned meaning and not as a defined kink.
Based on chapter 3 maybe the game should be renamed to "The Cuckoo."
I don't like cuckolding and I'm never have been a cuck.
I hate this kind of stories... but the images of a girl getting fucked, that does get me off.
In my mind, I see this games as some voyeur fantasy. I don't have a relationship with the girl and I don't share any empathy with the main character... mainly because, unlike a book or story, we don't get to see what's happening inside him.
This games do a poor job getting us inside the minds of the main characters, so I don't have a problem tuning them out.

I get what you say about the limits and all that...
But the main problem here is that the woman in this game didn't want this.
She didn't want to get groped, peeked, fucked... that was all about the MC's desires.
They weren't working together to get a shared goal... she didn't fully understand the power she now had.
And power corrupts.
That's the main narrative in a cuckold story... if they just shared, swapped and swinged without consequences or problems, there would not be any story there.
"They fucked an entire city and lived happily ever after."
There's no drama there, plenty of smut but zero drama.

So... the dev could have made a more slow progression... but it's not strange that things got ugly really fast.
 

kiteares

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I don't like cuckolding and I'm never have been a cuck.
I hate this kind of stories... but the images of a girl getting fucked, that does get me off.
In my mind, I see this games as some voyeur fantasy. I don't have a relationship with the girl and I don't share any empathy with the main character... mainly because, unlike a book or story, we don't get to see what's happening inside him.
This games do a poor job getting us inside the minds of the main characters, so I don't have a problem tuning them out.

I get what you say about the limits and all that...
But the main problem here is that the woman in this game didn't want this.
She didn't want to get groped, peeked, fucked... that was all about the MC's desires.
They weren't working together to get a shared goal... she didn't fully understand the power she now had.
And power corrupts.
That's the main narrative in a cuckold story... if they just shared, swapped and swinged without consequences or problems, there would not be any story there.
"They fucked an entire city and lived happily ever after."
There's no drama there, plenty of smut but zero drama.

So... the dev could have made a more slow progression... but it's not strange that things got ugly really fast.
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Thanks for your response.
For all fiction, regular or irregular, vanilla or kinked, I like to take the protagonist, even the main interest male or female and step into their shoes with a 'what would I think/do' approach when the answer is one that isn't available, that's generally the point I put walking away into the options. I also like to see how authors' minds work where they go with ideas and how they evolve characters and situations.
This feeds into my next comment - I get your point about he pushed, so he has to put up with what happens. For you and I and some others I think we see the MC as painting himself into a losing situation. We shall see :)
There's a few games here that are sitting on the samr cusp awaiting the next update to see how things go.
 
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Fleads

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As good were 2 previous chapters as bad is 3rd part.

Drawbacks:

1) no real choices - you just hit key to change slides of porno. Same poses, same angle, same bed.
2) no drama - wife just goes for sex, no brakes, helm, no sideways
3) mc lost control and acts like hormonal teenager (boring).

All of these problems were more or less covered in first parts.

I would believe that all happened due to rush, imposed by constant nagging.

I think, that to save the story this chapter has to be rewritten a bit, maybe to add chance of getting busted by cops or threat to be exposed by someone who knows you (he or she in a way may be blackmailed or corrupted). Or ex-boyfriend. Or other stuff.

I write this only because I liked previous episodes and consider this last one to be one step that could ruin whole series.

Still, the idea to draw a line between swinging/vouyer/sexwife is good.

Thanks, and hope you could take a cold heart decision.
 
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Led

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This chapter 3 version is pretty bugridden. Many missing pictures. Pretty boring, too. The wife bangs the whole goddamn Island and the male doesn't get to bang anyone. Even worse, when a hot chick invites him to meet her after 8 pm in her hotel room, there's apparently no story line written that enables it to go visit the girl. Weird.
 

Moisan4

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This chapter 3 version is pretty bugridden. Many missing pictures. Pretty boring, too. The wife bangs the whole goddamn Island and the male doesn't get to bang anyone. Even worse, when a hot chick invites him to meet her after 8 pm in her hotel room, there's apparently no story line written that enables it to go visit the girl. Weird.
I don't get this either. Why set up the 8pm thing with no pay off? Plus, she gets 5 dicks, and you get BJ's all week.
 
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Joi_fan

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You play as male mc but this is exactly like a female mc game.

@Deadlyreaper Agree with you, since you're a male mc, I wish the wife that was hooking you up with woman.
 

BannedAccount6543

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For all its shortcomings Chapter 3 was quite good. Dev is still finding his way and the story has still a long way to go. Good thing is 80% of comments are constructive and encouraging. The harem builders and the teenage fappers will never be happy with this type of game and they should not play it, there are hundreds of other games for their liking. But for those who are secure enough IRL and with their relationship this fantasy is very playable. And AFAIK all of his 59 patrons are still pledging. Good luck with Chapter 4.
Edit: Up to 64 today.
 

rick87

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Thanks everyone for your feedback, positive or negative.

I am in the process of fixing all bugs and the missing event and will release again once fixed.
if you want your game to really improve you need to make it something more than a click fest like the last version was. there are no variables in the script and any choice the player takes in the game has no repercussion on future events.
you should consider adding multiple branches, i'll give you some examples:
1. the wife doesn't open up to sex with other people but agrees to a spicier sex life -> exhibitionism route
2. the wife initially doesn't open up to sex with other people but finds out the husband is cheating on her so she starts cheating too -> cheating route
3. the wife agrees to sex with other men but doesn't like the idea of her husband with other women -> cuckhold route
4. the wife doesn't want to have sex with other men but is turned on by watching the husband with other women -> cuckqueen route
5. the wife slowly agrees to sex with other couples -> swinging route
6. the couple joins a site/club of couple exchange -> wife swap route.

if you implement something like this you'd come up with the first game that fully explore all of these fetishes and where player's choices truly matter.
 

Joi_fan

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For all its shortcomings Chapter 3 was quite good. Dev is still finding his way and the story has still a long way to go. Good thing is 80% of comments are constructive and encouraging. The harem builders and the teenage fappers will never be happy with this type of game and they should not play it, there are hundreds of other games for their liking. But for those who are secure enough IRL and with their relationship this fantasy is very playable. And AFAIK all of his 59 patrons are still pledging. Good luck with Chapter 4.
Edit: Up to 64 today.
I totally get what you're saying, but you can't deny that the male protagonist tag is misleading since it doesn't play like one and that was clearly evident on this update. Sure you're playing with his point of view, but that doesn't mean anything if you're not getting any action.

All I'm saying is that we wouldn't been having this discussion if this was a fmc game, because a) I wouldn't be playing:p and b)That is what you would expect on that kind of game.
 

Deadlyreaper

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the game does not look bad but the rest? well I can not see it all the same again especially here in the game anne stayed at kenny and mastrubiert and fantasizes the same of kenny and comes as ridiculous that shows me what's going to happen she cheats the mc fucks with others without it to him and then behaves more and more like a cheap city whore anyone can fuck her the mc loses total control has no real choices to somehow steer it can not prevent him cheating on him

that is so miserable always the same the mc is cheated in almost every game, is the total loser, can not influence anything, others around him have all the fun, the mc must constantly do the other work, must stupid punk grind for years and comes still not forward, or he gets beaten up ......

why can not something else come up? it would be much better if the mc here would keep the control and also what can end if he goes too far or determine the direction but no anne behaves like a whore and lets the whole city fuck her and cheating on him and the mc? is once again the loser
 

Thickgravy49

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In spite of the various issues aforementioned( bugs etc) I enjoyed the update tremendously.
The scenario of Anne fucking everybody she could on the holiday wasn't unrealistic at all in my opinion.
Yes, it was a rather large change from the previous chapters, but was alluded to in the dialogue.
She was reluctant & afraid to play around at home because of the possible repercussions,(People they both know finding out, neighbours, work colleagues, family etc) being exposed, maybe blackmailed etc.
Once they were on holiday,(vacation for our American friends) & she realised no-one knew them, all these reservations were removed & she took full advantage.
Seems like a believable scenario to me.
Room for improvement, of course, but a fine game so far imo ;)
 

SuperDuper7

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if you want your game to really improve you need to make it something more than a click fest like the last version was. there are no variables in the script and any choice the player takes in the game has no repercussion on future events.
you should consider adding multiple branches, i'll give you some examples:
1. the wife doesn't open up to sex with other people but agrees to a spicier sex life -> exhibitionism route
2. the wife initially doesn't open up to sex with other people but finds out the husband is cheating on her so she starts cheating too -> cheating route
3. the wife agrees to sex with other men but doesn't like the idea of her husband with other women -> cuckhold route
4. the wife doesn't want to have sex with other men but is turned on by watching the husband with other women -> cuckqueen route
5. the wife slowly agrees to sex with other couples -> swinging route
6. the couple joins a site/club of couple exchange -> wife swap route.

if you implement something like this you'd come up with the first game that fully explore all of these fetishes and where player's choices truly matter.
Very good post!!!

One of the points, which i didn't like in week3 was the sudden turbo-tempo of the events:
First week: The Wife try very shy to show her body to other men.
Second week: The wife had very shy the first body-contact to a stranger, but no sex.
Third week: Suddenly the wife had 5x times sex with strangers (3x with a man, 1x with two men and 1x with a woman).
With most of the persons there was no shy flirting. She went in the Ocean, showing two guys her tits and make an appointment that they should fuck her at 20:00 in the evening?!?
And the first sex with a stranger wasn't celebrated like a great highlight. There were 10 sex-pictures. That's it.

In my opinion the turbo-tempo is very dangerous for the whole story. If the Developer want to give the users every week a little bit harder action, you have reached already MMF in week3. So in week6 the story has reach his end?

Maybe it would have been better, when the steps in week3 would be much slower.
First she touch the first cock of a stranger, the next day there were the first shy blowjob, the third day there were touching in public and at the end of week3 there were the first sex with a stranger.

Now she is already the total slut: No more flirting/excitement before/during the sex, just a few sentences and then: Come at 20:00 in my bed to fuck me in 10 standard-pictures...
 

fsck

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Love the game, but some images are missing :(

anne_yasmin_08
anne_yasmin_09
anne_yasmin_10
anne_tony_resort_pool_25
anne_randall_10

These are the ones I ran into.
 
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My thoughts at the moment:
I like the idea behind this game: a couple who want to spice things up and go beyond their comfort zones and explore various sexual options. This could result in various story paths, as @rick87 suggested, or maybe also just to explore and expand the characters horizons. Both are exciting and especially suited for a VN, because, in contrast with e.g. a porn movie, in a VN you can really take your time to explore and also to explain through internal dialogue the feelings of the MC / MC's.

However, the execution of the concept in this game is all over the place. In the previous update the MC is cheating on his wife. But why, because the COUPLE is opening themselves up to new experiences. The MC shouldn't cheat, he should include or at least inform his wife about any possible or actual extramarital adventures. In the present update, the previously reluctant wife goes from zero to slut in 2.9 seconds. This is way too fast, and also without any choice or involvement of the MC. And I also don't care at all about the "superior" BBC "lovers" who can make the wife cum in contrast with the "inferior" white boys.

So, yeah, the concept is good, the art is good, but the actual storytelling is a bit lacking...
 
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baka

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my review:
- I don't enjoy a game if its too fast the corruption, Anne don't need much persuasion.
- The scenes are very short, there no emotional perspective, only a peeping tom enjoying watching his wife fucking. Wheres the seduction? the emotional state? And afterwards, when they talk? no details, short story, mostly, she suck him off and goes to sleep. Next, just eager for more, without enjoying what happened, like its not enough and nothing special.
- I also think there should be options where the husband can participate, dont need to be fully 3somes, but somehow be present, watching, giving orders, being cucked and submissive or dominant, that would make the game more diverse and take all aspect of NTR, not just a peeping tom.

edit: i also agree with , theres should not be any cheating, the main purpose is the 2 exploring together something new.
 
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