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That's what multiple playthroughs are for the dev is now actively encouraging going for multiple saves so I don't think we are going to get a choice like this in future.
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It says he is aware of her infidelity. There is no infidelity in an honest open relationship. And I hate the word 'cuckold', because it implies humiliation and I am not a fan of humiliation. I like sharing/swinging but not cheating.
Anne's cheating paths are not really fun to play. i tried out the new content with Martin initially and before she goes to meet him at the hotel, she sits in the park and thinks to herself..why am i cheating on Tony with his dad? then she just brushes it off and gets on with it. makes zero sense to me. so i have just 1 path i follow now and it is the swinging/sharing path. but now even that seems to be descending into Anne cheating. she fucks Drake at the spa and doesn't tell Tony about it when she goes back home. so that makes her a cheater according to the rules of their open relationship. yet she doesn't get tagged as unfaithful. Tony is unfaithful as soon as he gets a bj from the masseusse early on. yet he tells Anne about it, but she just laughs it off thinking it's a joke. yet he has told her and is still unfaithful? yeah the stats mean nothing.
You're not wrong. There are some things that I prefer about the remake but some things are better about the original.I agree with all of you, glad others share this sentiment. Is my memory getting bad or does it feel like it's nearly worse than the 1st game in this regard now? The first definitely had a lot of "Anne fucking around while Tony's out of sight or at home", but at the same time also had several major events they did together as a couple, like the end swinger club (even if anne was still fucking around, tony was actively participating as a voyeur instead of hearing about it over dinner)
Yah unfortunately some may prefer the appearance of Anne to Michael Jackson
Look at Dre for example. In the original you have the option to join them in a threesome, whereas in the remake Tony is forced to watch through the door being completely left out. All because Ann wants her and Dre's first time to be "special" I mean what the hell is that about? Why is she thinking of him in a romantic way? Since when was this the arrangement, I thought it was only supposed to be sexual.
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Agree, she should not be having romantic feelings towards anyone other then Tony. Not on a sharing path.
So, as you guys complain about Anne becoming wild beyond the initial game with Tony- I'm pretty sure that the whole idea is that things are spinning out of Tony's control, and that he's going to be confronted with the realities of the lifestyle he pushed for.
Her behavior is supposed to get a little out of hand. That's the idea. How he handles it, how she handles it, and where it ends up is the tension of the story. Mircom's not trying to just write a porn-delivery game, he's letting actions have consequences. He's telling an actual story, with drama and potential for negative results for one or both characters, or at least for their marriage.
At a guess- and I have no inside information, this is just a guess- we're going to get game endings where Anne's behavior is open and thrills Tony, endings where they stay together but he has no real control anymore, and endings where he loses her or becomes secondary to Martin, Dre, or whomever. And of course endings where they close things back up and relegate the adventures to their history.
That's one of the classic tropes of the genre. The dude pushes for her to sleep around and the consequences grow beyond his ability to control.
Her behavior is supposed to get a little out of hand. That's the idea. How he handles it, how she handles it, and where it ends up is the tension of the story. Mircom's not trying to just write a porn-delivery game, he's letting actions have consequences. He's telling an actual story, with drama and potential for negative results for one or both characters, or at least for their marriage.
At a guess- and I have no inside information, this is just a guess- we're going to get game endings where Anne's behavior is open and thrills Tony, endings where they stay together but he has no real control anymore, and endings where he loses her or becomes secondary to Martin, Dre, or whomever. And of course endings where they close things back up and relegate the adventures to their history.
That's one of the classic tropes of the genre. The dude pushes for her to sleep around and the consequences grow beyond his ability to control.
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They both suffer from the fact that other than the beginning overall premise, a couple trying to save a marriage (a premise both games seem to forget) there's no overall arching plot to the game. While it happens at different paces in both it essentially becomes "The Anne Show" in both and it's hard to see why or how this matters to the overall plot. I guess a cheating wife that could lead to divorce gives a better story than a wife experementing with permission
It seems to be getting handled better in this one, which is one thing Tacos is doing better (but we are still 5 chapters behind so there is chance for this to go off rails like previously)
Also speaking of previous versions, the small chapter 15 we got... Its interesting that Anne gets blackmailed in that version for sleeping with Martin (despite what you chose in chapter 1) so it seems cheating Anne was at least the canon route. Adding more fuel to the it's the Anne Show. Obviously this might be handled differently now.
Essentially there's no clear destination at the moment and the game seems to be making pointless stops along the way... The stops are better in one than the other or rubbish in both.
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See that's what I meant a few posts ago when I said the relationship points don't seem to have consequences..
The choice to cheat with Martin should never have been given to us a player. It should have been for us based on our previous choices actions...
Narritively, it makes little to no sense why Anne would cheat on Tony if the relationship points are high cause you've treat her well, it does makes sense if you've been a dick to her.
Narritively it makes no sense for Tony to loose control of the arrangement if he's totally devoted to Anne. It does if he's took his eye of the ball cause he's dicking other woman
I've absolute no problem with Anne being a bike. But I'm all for actions having consequences. I want the reasons Anne is a slut to make sense.
i had Tony nix Dre when Anne wanted to introduce them. mostly i did this because in the original it seemed like Anne was falling in love with Dre, judging by the scene in ep 15 where she is basically clinging to him like a bitch in heat the moment he showed up. still it does kinda seem like Mircom is going down the same road again with her jumping on every guy she meets and not including Tony in anything. they just aren't on the same page anymore. he is still into his dumbass fetish and she could give 2 shits since her nymphomania is now in full swing. as much as i love Anne's looks, her pesonality is shit. definately not the kind of woman any man should marry since they can fuck her constantly after meeting her for the first time. Tony's options for women seem pretty non-existant too. my pt is swinging and it's the only path i am playing in this remake since there are other games to play. i see in the gallery mod that there are a few women Tony can fuck, but my playthrough seems to have blocked him from it.
i continue to play though, but only on this 1 path. then i check the gallery and i am done till the next update. i used to play this game for hours and hours trying out different paths. but no i am pretty bored with it. shame really. it should have just continued the original version but work on making the choices really matter instead of what we have now.
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I must reject your hypothesis, this is the entire game viewed through what I'd describe as an ntr-fandom lens.
Now, perhaps that is indeed what mircom's goal is, but he's never struck me as that style or intention - it feels like it's supposed to be a hotwife-focused game.
Notice how in your analysis all those outcomes are decidedly on the ntr end of the scale - at the very best Tony is a willing voyeur, at the very worst they're practically split up. "Actions have consequences", except when they don't - many of the later game events happen on autopilot.
Overall, it's not that "drama and potential for negative results for one or both characters" is a bad thing at all, it's that "drama and potential for positive results for one or both characters" seems to be found much less often.
yeah i looked at the gallery where Anne cheats with Ryan and Tony catches them. i had him wait till later in the day and Anne tells him lies and he calls her on the bs then leaves to go stay at Dave's. i do like that the gallery allows you to watch the game from that point on too so you can see what happens next. that is how i will see other paths instead of playing over from the beginning since most choices don't really matter anymore. for me, i will continue to play the gallery from those scenes further and i am sure it will lead to divorce since Tony has left her and she just goes on with her cheating while he isn't around.
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To be fair the rules were set at the start
1. no martin
2. Tony doesn't need to be there, but he wants to know all
To be fair they were only rules Anne could break, but I think she's broke at least one in all paths. So it's definitely Anne taking it more than the other (though the cuck queen path hasn't really been implimented so. It remains to be seen)
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The hypothesis is not really that far off... now i agree there is a somewhat NTR lens people look through, myself included sometimes... but this is an NTR game so its kinda allowed.. but lets look at the endings he suggested
An ending where Anne is open and thrills Tony - this was the games premise from the start, it wouldnt be out of possibilities this happens
An ending where Tony has no real control anymore
An ending where he is second fiddle to someone else - Ive put these together cause they are essentially the same thing. Anne starts calling the shots... depending on the path taken this is already happening. Anne has become very much a Nymph and is doing stuff and men without Tony's knowledge. Tony has definitely lost control
An ending where they close things back up - cant see this one happening to be honest. they started this journey for a reason, I dont think there any going back. They have both realized something about themselves in this journey
An ending where he loses her - this would be the ultimate game over, however again depending on your route this is already happening.
there are 5 endings there on various parts of the scale - ranging from spiting up, to going back vanilla all the way to full cuck. but based on what we know from the game so far 4 are at least plausible. Of course as the game goes on, more possible endings will more than likely reveal themselves. The cuckqueen path hasn't been explored yet. the pair might decide to have an open marriage.
I dont think its supposed to be a hotwife-focused game, It has however seemed to become the wifes game though. I do think it would be better told from Anne PoV rather than tony's, she has definitely become the star of the show once she became a nymph
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It has NTR but is not an NTR only game. There is more then one path.
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But again, all those things you described are through an ntr framework. And as sagerock reminded above; it's both an ntr and sharing/swinging game (and maybe even harem depending on how one plays).
Why are all the options you listed various states of "someone gets screwed over"? It doesn't have to be like that. Even "close things back up" is silly to me, implied is a false dichtomy where either Anne is screwing around in a way that's insensitive to Tony, or they're a vanilla white picket-fence house couple.
If I had my way, both Tony and Anne would be having their fun nonstop but not letting it affect their relationship; they still put both of each other first, and partake in these adventures together.....ya know.....kinda like the title would indicate
Maybe I'm just overestimating the portion of players who think like me, and underestimating the amount of ntr fanatics here. If so, then certainly it'd be arrogant of me to try and steer the game away from what they like.