ChuckTooBig

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Apr 23, 2020
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I definitely think this rework is an improvement over the original. However, changing a few scenes here and there and making the models look a little nicer doesn't really feel like something anyone really wants or needs. Something completely new would have been nicer, not to mention the fact that this will most likely end up the same disappointing way the original did.
 
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dian091

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If I was that curious, I'd replay the abandoned game to see if the order changed, did they go on vacation before we got the topless pizza delivery before. Added a few men around the changing rooms instead of one. Remake is like the updated Star Wars films with added special effects to make up for 70's special effects.
 

EvolutionKills

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What a waste.

In some ways, this is actually worse than older version. The new UI is horrendous. Cursive grey font on a largely grey background, and the only other color is neon green? Really? The color of Monster Energy drinks, sports cars, and Kawasaki Ninjas? Putting cursive font all over the UI doesn't give off the feeling of being 'fancy' or 'upscale', rather it screams 'I like pretty fonts' and 'fuck my UI's readability/usability'. Want to use it for the title, and the title only? Sure, fine, fuck it, whatever. But when you put it in the game UI for character names and for the quick menu? That shit needs to fuck right off.

I did notice the updated renders, but the old renders weren't the problem. The story was a mess with far too many threads, and I can understand wanting perhaps start over with a clearer vision and more experience with the idea to perhaps wrangle that all in to a more controllable and cohesive narrative. But by all indications here, with it's slavish adherence to the old game's plot, that doesn't appear to be the case.

You know what else could have used some work, what might have been worth rebooting this for? A writing overhaul. The game's writing and narration has never really been good. Now it hasn't be awful either. It largely was coherent, had a minimum of grammatical errors, and generally made sense; it didn't look like it was written by a non-native speaker then dropkicked into an MTL algorithm. But, it was never really good either.

One of the cardinal rules in storytelling is 'Show, Don't Tell', and this game's narrative has always done the opposite of that. We start off with an exposition dump that introduces the MC, their wife, their job, the supporting cast, and the primary dilemma or motivation. A textbook example of telling rather than showing. A hypothetically better written introduction with a focus on 'Show, Don't Tell' could have started with the MC toiling away at their desk at work, leaving it up to the audience to intuit that they work in software rather than needing to be explicitly told so. Then they could be interrupted by a text message from Ann, causing him to pop out of his tunnel vision and now start to anxiously run in mental circles over their love life problem.

A more creative writer could weave a narrative that gave light to the inner lives and personalities of these characters, without just saying the quite part out loud; but we're not getting that here. As is, the returning cast is just as vacuous as I remember them. Nobody has any personality, they're just mannequins moving from scenario to scenario (and calling each other 'baby' and 'babe' enough to be aggravating rather than endearing). It is frustrating to see such wasted potential here. The premise was good, Ann was hot, the renders were decent and the writing was at least coherent. Redoing the renders for a slight improvement in quality, but leaving the same underwhelming writing leading the same wooden characters to the same clusterfuck of a story, wasn't what this game needed (nor do I imagine, what the audience wanted).
 
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LordofEntropy

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Is this not the second time that the game has been reworked?
2nd or 3rd depending on how you want to count. It is the second reboot in terms of going back to chapter one and doing it over again. However, there was the "reset" between part 1 and part 2; a sort of convoluted attempt was made to ostensibly make it easier going forward with the story by making some, uh, narrative leaps. It was sort of a "story reboot" in situ, "story is going to do some wonky shit, but it's to make everything better going forward." So, to me it feels like the 3rd reboot.
 

Deleted member 2602227

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I didn't really like the latest updates anyway. Game was already kinda dying to me, that the dev restarts it or whatnot, well.. Would've been better if he created new content but, I think he feels it too, there isn't any tension, and he just "tries" to restart it with okay I cheated and me too and let's retry and re do it all again but it doesn't work. When he should've developed deeper on the father and that friend brian or the other guy whatever his name was, incredible in bed, a black bald man, yeah?

Whatever, gl hf, will redownload it when I see new content or "completed" status.
 

JesterAI

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I didn't really like the latest updates anyway. Game was already kinda dying to me, that the dev restarts it or whatnot, well.. Would've been better if he created new content but, I think he feels it too, there isn't any tension, and he just "tries" to restart it with okay I cheated and me too and let's retry and re do it all again but it doesn't work. When he should've developed deeper on the father and that friend brian or the other guy whatever his name was, incredible in bed, a black bald man, yeah?

Whatever, gl hf, will redownload it when I see new content or "completed" status.
yup, he kept adding random characters, where there was absolutely zero tension, instead of following up with the dad, the friend, and the girl from work's boyfriend. Like the plot threads were RIGHT THERE, just keep those going, really confused why he decided it was time to throw in a random plumber or doctor. Or whenever there would be an additional random female. Why? The game didn't need new side characters.
 

88stanford88

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I'm not saying they shouldn't listen to what their patreons are suggesting but make sure it doesn't pull you away from your story.
my replay was for not for you but was for WuzzyFuzzy I don't understand which of the many topics I covered in my post do you want to argue with me about
Usually I stay out of these arguments. Both have points to make and neither is completely wrong or completely right. But (and you knew there was one coming) I have to agree that (in my opinion) Mircom didn't have a full story developed when he released it
you should have stayed out of it this time too
why are you trying to think as if you know Mircom's way of thinking and working?
This story was clearly written since the beginning... (but something changes after Martin scene.. here began his mistake of listening to those who told him that he would have won more supporters by changing and adding useless characters
probably in the hope of having more paying supporters Mircom has realized that:
1) the supporters have not increased.
2) the story was taking a direction with too many side characters that have nothing to do with the relationship between Tony and Anne
TACOS will have fewer chapters than before (I personally hope for more than 10)... this means that many secondary characters will not be included.
...in the best TV series even the best screenwriters leave the ending open and this is a sign of skill because if a character becomes unexpectedly important the ending has to be rewritten.
In this case the migli of the game was a mess with nonsense!

The problem was not and will never be about the endings

Writing the ending of a story is always the last thing to do in the professional productions

The story is in the head of the artist... he makes a mistake that in the new TACOS will be fixed!

I work in book and song production…I guarantee you the best writers don't write the ending they leave the ending open.
Writing the ending of a story is always the last thing to do! Writing the ending first is like taking your dick and cutting it off with a sharp knife :cool: :eek:
the artist lets himself be carried away by the characters... and only sometimes he talks to friends and aficionados.. sometimes he talks about the story to his wife to understand a female point of view... or he has a working group...

there are always many possible endings...
but surely as the best Hollywood productions teach, leaving an open ending to a possible sequel is always the best.
most developers put a game out and hope it catches on and they get $$ from patreons. I believe that Mircom had an idea of a game but he did not have a fully laid out story. In other words he didn't have a set beginning, middle and end when he released the game.
Wrong!
Mircom already explain why in the message to his Patreon fans
He will be able to make a masterpiece because now he won't repeat the mistakes made in the useless hope of earning more.. and it looks like a success because his supporters are growing up everyday.

Money is very important for any professional artist and the Patreon site was made to just for help ALL the artists!

I have read in his messages that he is quitting his job!
As soon writing games WILL BE the main job for Mircom....

I can just write my end now;)
Good Luck Mircom3D and thanks for your great Job!
 

TomUK

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What I don't get at the beginning is why even mention that Kenny and his wife have 3 boys if they're not going to be part of the storyline and also say that Anne is a sort of nanny/assistant, pretty sure before she was just an assistant.

Think there was also somewhere where MC or narrator called Anne, Kelly.
 

CharleyT

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Mmm, that's alot of links, lol....so where do we start the game at the beginning, the 1-10 download, or this new Tacos, or the 14 full? I'm confused! :LOL:
 
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